Firefox 57 was supposed to be a revolutionary release, yet it's still slower than Chrome and the other major browsers
As Mozilla has been saying for a while now, the real speed increase will come once WebRender is enabled, most likely in FF58. You can already enable it now in about:config, and it does make a noticeable difference.
Within days, as promised by the sole developer. This is not Mozilla's fault, they've been warning us for two whole years that XUL compatibility was ending.
Until Noscript 10 is released, use uMatrix instead.
Please point us to the keyloggers and spyware in Firefox. I know Chrome is basically Google's creepy tentacle into our personal information, but why do you think Mozilla does the same thing, in stark opposition to their stated ideals and track record?
Because the extensions people are talking about are very popular, actively-maintained ones
No, not really. NoScript is probably the only one that really fits that description, and that's coming for FF57 by the end of this week.
All of the others are niche, at best. You may think they're hugely popular, but that's because you're in the tiny sphere of super hardcore nerds who insist on very specific niche extensions, because they think it would be "painful" to do without them. The outcry has been incredibly minor on the grand scale of things, while the praise has been almost completely unanimous.
What negative press? The only whining I've seen has come from hopeless shut-in neckbeards who cling on to outdated and obsolete extensions that were last updated 5+ years ago, yet expect them to still work perfectly in a completely re-written browser.
Noscript is coming in a couple of days because the developer is slow on the conversion to WebExtensions. The new API has been available for a long time, everyone knew the release date of FF57 and that new extensions would have to be in WebExtensions format from that date. The fact that some extension developers weren't ready is their own problem, maybe you should donate some time or money to them, if you care so much?
Besides, uMatrix is available and is a much more powerful alternative to NoScript.
These guys aren't just "right wingers". I know right wingers. I have friends who are right wingers.
Exactly! I have friends who have right wingers. A couple of them are even running as candidates for right wing parties in the upcoming elections in my country. We're still friends, we go out and drink together, we sometimes have spirited discussions, but we're still good friends despite disagreeing on politics.
And even though I don't like that their parties are way too deep in the pockets of corporate interests and will probably contribute to an erosion of worker rights and other causes I care about, they're not outright evil. Perhaps just misguided.
Literal goose-stepping, swastika-wearing, nazi flag-waving white supremacist shitheels, though? Yeah, those guys are definitely pure evil.
I have had to clean spyware/malware from a bunch of friends and family PCs, and the majority of them had malicious Firefox/Chrome plugins installed, hijacking searches and probably logging keystrokes.
If the move to webextensions can help mitigate this, I am all for it. None of the extensions I use are incompatible.
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Firefox 57 was supposed to be a revolutionary release, yet it's still slower than Chrome and the other major browsers
As Mozilla has been saying for a while now, the real speed increase will come once WebRender is enabled, most likely in FF58. You can already enable it now in about:config, and it does make a noticeable difference.
Within days, as promised by the sole developer. This is not Mozilla's fault, they've been warning us for two whole years that XUL compatibility was ending.
Until Noscript 10 is released, use uMatrix instead.
How are Rust and Servo failures? From my perspective, they've been hugely successful.
Please point us to the keyloggers and spyware in Firefox. I know Chrome is basically Google's creepy tentacle into our personal information, but why do you think Mozilla does the same thing, in stark opposition to their stated ideals and track record?
A piece of software no longer caters to your 10 years out of date usage pattern. Oh cry me a river.
No one is being dismissive of people with genuine complaints, only the sadface whiners.
Because the extensions people are talking about are very popular, actively-maintained ones
No, not really. NoScript is probably the only one that really fits that description, and that's coming for FF57 by the end of this week.
All of the others are niche, at best. You may think they're hugely popular, but that's because you're in the tiny sphere of super hardcore nerds who insist on very specific niche extensions, because they think it would be "painful" to do without them. The outcry has been incredibly minor on the grand scale of things, while the praise has been almost completely unanimous.
Set "extensions.pocket.enabled" to false in about:config. Voila.
What negative press? The only whining I've seen has come from hopeless shut-in neckbeards who cling on to outdated and obsolete extensions that were last updated 5+ years ago, yet expect them to still work perfectly in a completely re-written browser.
Nice copy-paste Chrome shilling.
Noscript is coming in a couple of days because the developer is slow on the conversion to WebExtensions. The new API has been available for a long time, everyone knew the release date of FF57 and that new extensions would have to be in WebExtensions format from that date. The fact that some extension developers weren't ready is their own problem, maybe you should donate some time or money to them, if you care so much?
Besides, uMatrix is available and is a much more powerful alternative to NoScript.
These guys aren't just "right wingers". I know right wingers. I have friends who are right wingers.
Exactly! I have friends who have right wingers. A couple of them are even running as candidates for right wing parties in the upcoming elections in my country. We're still friends, we go out and drink together, we sometimes have spirited discussions, but we're still good friends despite disagreeing on politics.
And even though I don't like that their parties are way too deep in the pockets of corporate interests and will probably contribute to an erosion of worker rights and other causes I care about, they're not outright evil. Perhaps just misguided.
Literal goose-stepping, swastika-wearing, nazi flag-waving white supremacist shitheels, though? Yeah, those guys are definitely pure evil.
We shouldn't conflate the two.
If you've got weird custom tweaks from 30+ browser versions ago still lurking around, then yes the problem is definitely on your end.
Yes, exactly. You have probably tweaked a ton weird settings in about:config. Clean it up!
Now it's all political and how anyone not fully left of center is evil.
I'm sorry, I must have missed it for all the right-wing FYGM shit that I have to wade through to read any actually intelligent comments.
Arnie is probably one of the most liberal republicans in the public eye.
All of them, by any reasonable political compass.
There's a limit to how much damage a webext plugin can do. An XUL plugin can literally take over the entire browser.
NoScript is coming in a day or two.
only 3 of my 14 installed extensions work after upgrading to Firefox 57
Which ones would that be?
I have had to clean spyware/malware from a bunch of friends and family PCs, and the majority of them had malicious Firefox/Chrome plugins installed, hijacking searches and probably logging keystrokes.
If the move to webextensions can help mitigate this, I am all for it. None of the extensions I use are incompatible.
Have you even tried looking at the built-in customization options?
it works crap all via touch.
Everything sucks via touch, in any app ever.
It breaks many extensions
Which was absolutely necessary to break out of the single-threaded security nightmare that is XUL.
It's still slower than its competitors
Nope. Faster than even Chrome here, on both Windows and Linux.
It still uses more memory than its competitors
It uses significantly less memory than Chrome.
Its UI looks worse
So customize it. Have you even bothered to look at the options available to you before you started whining?
For me, I use different fingers for those two shortcuts, so it makes it rather difficult to mix them up by mistake.
It's ctrl+shift+Q in FF57, not just ctrl+Q. If you have session saving turned off, it will also warn you before closing the browser.