Nukes are not going away. Too many reasons to continue it. HOWEVER, between Japan and now this, I think that France requires some massive upgrades. However, job #1 MUST BE SECRUITY.
And these ppl should NOT be ripped for this. THey should be scolded publicly and then privately thanked.
I have a strange one. Over on neighbors.denverpost.com, if I attempt to respond to to a posting, quoting the original post and then upon the first keystroke, it kills all the tabs with denverpost.com. But none of the others.
Yeah, that last part was a killer. If they really have this intact, then China is going to have a heyday. Personally, I think that we are our own worst enemies. We allow our tech and electronic infrastructure to go to CHina and do not worry about it. Insane considering that they are in a cold war with us.
At this time, we need to change a number of things. For starters, the idea of using a smart phone for troop comm, should require that it be produced in some friendly nation, including our own.
Have you not paid attention? We have had issues with our military network. I would not be the least bit surprised if we actually were cracked and Iran got control of it. If so, then you can bet on it that the DOD/CIA are making some MAJOR changes right now.
First off,l agree that you folks are bearing the brunt of our insane drug war, but also your own politics. I am opposed to both. Considering that we are neighbors, I believe that we should be working closer (for example, I would rather have seen all of our low-end work go to Mexico than to China. Far better to have your economy improve and work together then to send work to a nation that is in a cold war with America). But it is our drug war combined with illegals that is the real issues. We need to legalize drugs here, but allow ZERO IMPORTS/EXPORTS of drugs. If we then go after both gangs/drug lords while they are deprived of money, they will self destruct. And yes, America needs to get control of our illegal issue. Both are destroying America. And our drug war is destroying Latin America.
As to the assassination plot, I have seen stranger things. Things that I thought were jokes and turned out later not to be. So, do I trust it 100%? Nope. HOWEVER, do I discount it fully? Nope. Only a fool would do that. As it is, Iran has done a number of assassinations around the world.
Actually, I do not know that much about Northern Alliance. I KNOW that there is loads of political infighting. However, when groups see the pot growing big, they will typically make arrangements to share.
And yeah, I am fully aware of the taliban's poppy. They prevent locals from using it, but sell it to the west as well as Russia, China, etc via Iran.
It it another terrorism attack on us.
The BEST thing that the west can do, is LEGALIZE all drugs, but require absolutely ZERO IMPORTS/EXPORTS. That would destroy gangs, drug lords, terrorists groups. Of course, to really make that effective we would have to crack down hard on any selling to underage as well as to fencing operations.
I am not saying that we need or want trade barriers. However, when somebody is cheating badly, there is just no sense in going this way. They were suppose to have honored the treaties nearly 7 years ago. They have actually made things worse with America and are trying hard to get EU to be just as stupid. Thank God that EU has NOT given into that. They still have the bulk of their manufacturing in place.
What is amounts to is that America is about to keep them out of here due to their spying, but they are hoping that if we they open up what should NEVER have been blocked in the first place, that we will not close them down. At this time, it is in the west's best interest for us to kill that idea as well as start raising trade barriers unless they will start honoring their treaty obligations.
Hopefully, O will not be as stupid or greedy as W/neo-cons were.
No. Overall, we do not. We put troops in prison for doing this. We are NOTHING like Iran. Now, I grant you that W/neo-cons were DISASTERS. But to declare that this is indicative of American overall is just plain wrong. What we did in invading Iraq was wrong. What we did in Abu Grave was wrong. And sadly, lower heads rolled, but not the ones who really caused it. We have some issues.
HOWEVER, it does not compare to what Iran is up to. Iran is meddling in every single nation in the middle east and more.
Hell, Iran put a death sentence on a UK citizen for WRITING something. And you have NO ISSUE WITH IT? They just got caught attempting to assassinate a saudi political figure in America. And yet you and others point to America rather than them.
And yes, while we have our faults, we are nothing like Iran or their leaders.
Nation building is NOT just politics. In fact, far from it. What we should have done is work with them to get businesses going and restore their economy. We did not. What you are speaking of, is political in-fighting which as you say, it a mess. However, if we had got their economy rolling and without taliban being their to gut these businesses (and for the first 5 years, taliban/AQ had next to zero influence), then W could have finished it. Sadly, between W, Cheney and rumsfeld, there really has been only a few more inept admins in America.
Yes, but the issue is, who is responding and who is provoking?
Iran is in a war with the sunnis and wants us out of there, and to retake/control the middle east. In addition, they want to push Shia over that of other forms of Islam.
I seriously doubt it. IF THIS IS TRUE, I suspect that this was actually in Afhgnistan and Iran or taliban were able to hijack control of it and push it into Iranian territory. As it is, Iran has claimed before that they had one and it was shown to be false. Personally, I tend to trust what comes out of AQ, as well as Al Jazerra, when it comes to reporting what we did, but Iran is whole other issue. They are constant liars.
We are not going to drop one. I am guessing that the original poster sees the issues with Iran. They continue to make progress toward their nuke and will have it sooner or later. Once they test it, Israel will likely fire on them.
Disregarding their building of a nuke, they are feeding money, bombs, guns, intel, instructions to Taliban, AQ, Syrian dictators, Libyan Dictators, Bahrain terrorists, Yemen terrorists, Lebanon and Gaza terrorists, etc. Hell, they have been caught helping multiple groups within Iraq that are fighting EACH OTHER, to tie up America as well as Iraq. They are using WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO DO THEIR WORK. They happily continue to send more weapons and ammo to Syria to butcher their citizens. They did the same in Libya.
No, it is Iran that escalates it to Women and Children. They have supported terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Israel that are bombing shopping centers LOADED with families. They are not even trying to come after the troops because we are to heavily guarded. So they butcher women and children. Hell, they SEND women and children to do their work for them. They are cowards like you.
Wrong on all accounts. I know multiple 'Persians', who have relatives in Iran and they go on regular visits. I have little to do with wal mart, and am against the bulk of our military actions. I DO believe that we belonged in Afghanistan and had W/neo-cons done some nation building, we would have been out of there long ago. Never should have invaded Iraq. If you look at my previous postings, you will find that I did not think that Iraq has nukes or were trying to acquire them (I DID say that I suspected that they still had chembio weapons, but that is because just about every nation has a program going on one or both of them). Likewise, I have said that we never should have had any actions in Libya.
However, Iran is EXTREMELY active in the terrorist world. They are behind many operations. Hell, they provide weapons and funding to AQ, even though once we are gone, they will go after AQ themselves. They do today. They held many of OBL's relatives in hostage. Basically, they would not allow them to leave (I am not certain what the status of that is now).
Iran is working on nukes and is getting closer. The evidence is overwhelming. Even from my neighbors a number of them say that it is an open secret in Iran that they are working on nukes. A few say that it is simply about building civilain power. Yet, it should be obvious to all that nothing could be further from the truth. Hell, they are LOADED with oil and could continue to burn oil for all of their energy needs for several hundred years and not make an impact. Likewise, the amount of oil that they burn does not make a big impact on the amount that they can export. They have ZERO reasons to build nuclear power plants. If they poured just 1/10 of the money that they have put into nuke tech, they could have 2-3x the amount of oil coming out.
Yet, fools run around screaming that anybody that thinks that must have the politics of a neo-con. Sad that there is so little reasoning on/..
I love the way that cowards put words in other's mouths.
I am against many of our military actions. You can look through my old postings and find that I was opposed to invading Iraq and against NATO/O's actions in Libya.I have no desire to invade or control Iranian politics. America should have learned from all the garbage that was done by Europe, Russia, and our own actions. It is not in our best interest to interfere in another nation's politics.
HOWEVER, stopping iran, AQ, etc are exceptions. Iran has been behind a number of terrorists groups, etc. As it is, they provide massive support to sunni groups esp. AQ, while at the same time doing their best to kill them. Iran has NO INTEREST IN HELP SUNNI. It is that they want us more embroiled into the middle east so help create a nightmare.
BTW, I argue against things like Kyoto because it is actually STALLING America and the world FROM GETTING OFF OIL AND COAL. The world must quit burning both of these for fuel. Yet, items like Kyoto and neo-cons in the USA , stalls the US and the world. These kinds of actions by Iran and others pull us in to it (though I am ignoring what W/neo-cons did to America).
No. Just their military base where they are building nukes at. As to killing ppl, all you have to do is look in Iraq and Afghanistan. Much of the 'terrorists' were backed by Iran. Iran has OPENLY said that they want to keep us there as long as possible. You see issues happening in a number of nations throughout middle east that has Iran backing all the killing going on over there. They provide help and shelter to OBL, Gadahaffi, al-assad, as well as numerous terrorists groups.
Now, they are busy building nuke weapons for use on whom? Various groups and nations.
And yet, you think that if THEY foul up and lose some of their own ppl, that I would think that this is a bad thing? Nope.
Neo-cons run around screaming that we can shutdown illegals and stop drugs. They state that we MUST build a fence. Yet, drugloads, coyotoes, etc continue their work via boats, submarines, tunnels, hell, via Canada. The point is, that a fence is about the stupidiest thing going. And after 50 years of a republican and neo-con drug war that has only served to create drug lords, terrorists, etc (and very likely enriched a NUMBER of anti-drug politicians) and they still claim that it is winnable.
Now, they are running HR-2885, which will require e-verify on businesses. However, the penalties have been gutted. In addition, it has ZERO chance of getting by libs. The SIMPLE answer is to crack down further on penalties for businesses that hire illegals,and add to that, the dream act. By doing that, it will force the dems to address this.
But to take this further, we need to legalize drugs. Heavy regulations, and most importantly, ZERO IMPORTS OR EXPORTS. By allowing zero imports/exports you destroy drug lords/terrorists, thought to be fair, unless other nations follow, some of these groups will simply refocus (several are dedicated to America's or the west's destruction: Zeta's, AQ, etc).
It really would be nice to see samples come back. My guess is that the next real choice will be around 2018 by America with red dragon. I would not be the least bit surprised if we send a small probe to phobos and diemos to grab samples. IDEALLY, we would grab from mars surface as well.
No. I was showing that the per capita metric is WORTHLESS. Your retarded reasoning that it has value is the real issue. The fact that you look at India and say that they have low rates, but ignore the fact that they are SECOND on growth (behind China) shows your lack of understanding. The growth is NOT occuring in either place due to population boom. It is occuring due to economic growth. The REAL issue is that the growth is being done by following CHina who did some of the WORST approaches. Even now, they have all of their pollution controls on electric generators turned off. I doubt that India is as bad as china, but their growth remains embedded on coal.
So, if the west cuts, it does ZERO GOOD if nations like China, India, Brazil, South Africa, Russia, etc. continue to grow their emissions by taking short cuts.
Hopefully you will start reasoning through this and realize what a nightmare Kyoto is. The best thing that the west can do is drop kyoto, and put in places DECENT TAXES on ALL GOODS that are tied to CO2 emissions from the country of origin. When the nation lowers their emissions, then the taxes ALL AROUND THE WORLD ON THOSE EXPORTS DROP. To the nation that lowers theirs quickest, they get the best rewards (lower costs of goods RELATIVE to their competitors).
You kyoto types need to start reasoning things out. Hell, Kyoto has been in place for a DECADE, and CO2 is growing rapidly. MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than America's output. Much much faster than the west is capable of cutting. And as I have said elsewhere, China's emissions are NOT what you think. When OCO2 goes up, you will see that they are 3x what we think. IOW, their emissions are closer to America's already, but with a QUICK upward growth. The west will likely come in close or lower. And other nations will likely show an increase over what accepted values, but not like China's. China's emissions are going to stun the world. And yet, you apologist will not care one whit about it. NOR will China's leadership.
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Well, that is accurate. The fact is, that France sends a lot of power all over Europe because the other nations want to switch off Coal due to Kyoto.
Nukes are not going away. Too many reasons to continue it. HOWEVER, between Japan and now this, I think that France requires some massive upgrades. However, job #1 MUST BE SECRUITY.
And these ppl should NOT be ripped for this. THey should be scolded publicly and then privately thanked.
I have a strange one. Over on neighbors.denverpost.com, if I attempt to respond to to a posting, quoting the original post and then upon the first keystroke, it kills all the tabs with denverpost.com. But none of the others.
Yeah, that last part was a killer. If they really have this intact, then China is going to have a heyday. Personally, I think that we are our own worst enemies. We allow our tech and electronic infrastructure to go to CHina and do not worry about it. Insane considering that they are in a cold war with us.
At this time, we need to change a number of things. For starters, the idea of using a smart phone for troop comm, should require that it be produced in some friendly nation, including our own.
I am seeing bugs in Chrome that has never been there. Some are pretty severe. So, I have switched back to firefox. Good solid browser.
Have you not paid attention? We have had issues with our military network. I would not be the least bit surprised if we actually were cracked and Iran got control of it. If so, then you can bet on it that the DOD/CIA are making some MAJOR changes right now.
First off,l agree that you folks are bearing the brunt of our insane drug war, but also your own politics. I am opposed to both. Considering that we are neighbors, I believe that we should be working closer (for example, I would rather have seen all of our low-end work go to Mexico than to China. Far better to have your economy improve and work together then to send work to a nation that is in a cold war with America). But it is our drug war combined with illegals that is the real issues. We need to legalize drugs here, but allow ZERO IMPORTS/EXPORTS of drugs. If we then go after both gangs/drug lords while they are deprived of money, they will self destruct. And yes, America needs to get control of our illegal issue. Both are destroying America. And our drug war is destroying Latin America.
As to the assassination plot, I have seen stranger things. Things that I thought were jokes and turned out later not to be. So, do I trust it 100%? Nope. HOWEVER, do I discount it fully? Nope. Only a fool would do that. As it is, Iran has done a number of assassinations around the world.
Actually, I do not know that much about Northern Alliance. I KNOW that there is loads of political infighting. However, when groups see the pot growing big, they will typically make arrangements to share.
And yeah, I am fully aware of the taliban's poppy. They prevent locals from using it, but sell it to the west as well as Russia, China, etc via Iran.
It it another terrorism attack on us.
The BEST thing that the west can do, is LEGALIZE all drugs, but require absolutely ZERO IMPORTS/EXPORTS. That would destroy gangs, drug lords, terrorists groups. Of course, to really make that effective we would have to crack down hard on any selling to underage as well as to fencing operations.
I am not saying that we need or want trade barriers. However, when somebody is cheating badly, there is just no sense in going this way. They were suppose to have honored the treaties nearly 7 years ago. They have actually made things worse with America and are trying hard to get EU to be just as stupid. Thank God that EU has NOT given into that. They still have the bulk of their manufacturing in place.
What is amounts to is that America is about to keep them out of here due to their spying, but they are hoping that if we they open up what should NEVER have been blocked in the first place, that we will not close them down.
At this time, it is in the west's best interest for us to kill that idea as well as start raising trade barriers unless they will start honoring their treaty obligations.
Hopefully, O will not be as stupid or greedy as W/neo-cons were.
No. Overall, we do not. We put troops in prison for doing this. We are NOTHING like Iran. Now, I grant you that W/neo-cons were DISASTERS. But to declare that this is indicative of American overall is just plain wrong. What we did in invading Iraq was wrong. What we did in Abu Grave was wrong. And sadly, lower heads rolled, but not the ones who really caused it. We have some issues.
HOWEVER, it does not compare to what Iran is up to. Iran is meddling in every single nation in the middle east and more. Hell, Iran put a death sentence on a UK citizen for WRITING something. And you have NO ISSUE WITH IT? They just got caught attempting to assassinate a saudi political figure in America. And yet you and others point to America rather than them.
And yes, while we have our faults, we are nothing like Iran or their leaders.
Nation building is NOT just politics. In fact, far from it. What we should have done is work with them to get businesses going and restore their economy. We did not. What you are speaking of, is political in-fighting which as you say, it a mess. However, if we had got their economy rolling and without taliban being their to gut these businesses (and for the first 5 years, taliban/AQ had next to zero influence), then W could have finished it. Sadly, between W, Cheney and rumsfeld, there really has been only a few more inept admins in America.
Yes, but the issue is, who is responding and who is provoking?
Iran is in a war with the sunnis and wants us out of there, and to retake/control the middle east. In addition, they want to push Shia over that of other forms of Islam.
I seriously doubt it. IF THIS IS TRUE, I suspect that this was actually in Afhgnistan and Iran or taliban were able to hijack control of it and push it into Iranian territory. As it is, Iran has claimed before that they had one and it was shown to be false. Personally, I tend to trust what comes out of AQ, as well as Al Jazerra, when it comes to reporting what we did, but Iran is whole other issue. They are constant liars.
We are not going to drop one. I am guessing that the original poster sees the issues with Iran. They continue to make progress toward their nuke and will have it sooner or later. Once they test it, Israel will likely fire on them.
Disregarding their building of a nuke, they are feeding money, bombs, guns, intel, instructions to Taliban, AQ, Syrian dictators, Libyan Dictators, Bahrain terrorists, Yemen terrorists, Lebanon and Gaza terrorists, etc. Hell, they have been caught helping multiple groups within Iraq that are fighting EACH OTHER, to tie up America as well as Iraq. They are using WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO DO THEIR WORK. They happily continue to send more weapons and ammo to Syria to butcher their citizens. They did the same in Libya.
But, hey, no problems.
No, it is Iran that escalates it to Women and Children. They have supported terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and Israel that are bombing shopping centers LOADED with families. They are not even trying to come after the troops because we are to heavily guarded. So they butcher women and children. Hell, they SEND women and children to do their work for them. They are cowards like you.
Wrong on all accounts. I know multiple 'Persians', who have relatives in Iran and they go on regular visits. I have little to do with wal mart, and am against the bulk of our military actions. I DO believe that we belonged in Afghanistan and had W/neo-cons done some nation building, we would have been out of there long ago. Never should have invaded Iraq. If you look at my previous postings, you will find that I did not think that Iraq has nukes or were trying to acquire them (I DID say that I suspected that they still had chembio weapons, but that is because just about every nation has a program going on one or both of them). Likewise, I have said that we never should have had any actions in Libya.
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However, Iran is EXTREMELY active in the terrorist world. They are behind many operations. Hell, they provide weapons and funding to AQ, even though once we are gone, they will go after AQ themselves. They do today. They held many of OBL's relatives in hostage. Basically, they would not allow them to leave (I am not certain what the status of that is now).
Iran is working on nukes and is getting closer. The evidence is overwhelming. Even from my neighbors a number of them say that it is an open secret in Iran that they are working on nukes. A few say that it is simply about building civilain power. Yet, it should be obvious to all that nothing could be further from the truth. Hell, they are LOADED with oil and could continue to burn oil for all of their energy needs for several hundred years and not make an impact. Likewise, the amount of oil that they burn does not make a big impact on the amount that they can export. They have ZERO reasons to build nuclear power plants. If they poured just 1/10 of the money that they have put into nuke tech, they could have 2-3x the amount of oil coming out.
Yet, fools run around screaming that anybody that thinks that must have the politics of a neo-con. Sad that there is so little reasoning on
I love the way that cowards put words in other's mouths.
I am against many of our military actions. You can look through my old postings and find that I was opposed to invading Iraq and against NATO/O's actions in Libya.I have no desire to invade or control Iranian politics. America should have learned from all the garbage that was done by Europe, Russia, and our own actions. It is not in our best interest to interfere in another nation's politics.
HOWEVER, stopping iran, AQ, etc are exceptions. Iran has been behind a number of terrorists groups, etc. As it is, they provide massive support to sunni groups esp. AQ, while at the same time doing their best to kill them. Iran has NO INTEREST IN HELP SUNNI. It is that they want us more embroiled into the middle east so help create a nightmare.
BTW, I argue against things like Kyoto because it is actually STALLING America and the world FROM GETTING OFF OIL AND COAL. The world must quit burning both of these for fuel. Yet, items like Kyoto and neo-cons in the USA , stalls the US and the world. These kinds of actions by Iran and others pull us in to it (though I am ignoring what W/neo-cons did to America).
No. Just their military base where they are building nukes at. As to killing ppl, all you have to do is look in Iraq and Afghanistan. Much of the 'terrorists' were backed by Iran. Iran has OPENLY said that they want to keep us there as long as possible. You see issues happening in a number of nations throughout middle east that has Iran backing all the killing going on over there. They provide help and shelter to OBL, Gadahaffi, al-assad, as well as numerous terrorists groups.
Now, they are busy building nuke weapons for use on whom? Various groups and nations.
And yet, you think that if THEY foul up and lose some of their own ppl, that I would think that this is a bad thing? Nope.
this has a small nuke on-board. Then let it blow upon a hatch being opened or blockage of a signal.
Neo-cons run around screaming that we can shutdown illegals and stop drugs. They state that we MUST build a fence. Yet, drugloads, coyotoes, etc continue their work via boats, submarines, tunnels, hell, via Canada. The point is, that a fence is about the stupidiest thing going. And after 50 years of a republican and neo-con drug war that has only served to create drug lords, terrorists, etc (and very likely enriched a NUMBER of anti-drug politicians) and they still claim that it is winnable.
Now, they are running HR-2885, which will require e-verify on businesses. However, the penalties have been gutted. In addition, it has ZERO chance of getting by libs. The SIMPLE answer is to crack down further on penalties for businesses that hire illegals,and add to that, the dream act. By doing that, it will force the dems to address this.
But to take this further, we need to legalize drugs. Heavy regulations, and most importantly, ZERO IMPORTS OR EXPORTS. By allowing zero imports/exports you destroy drug lords/terrorists, thought to be fair, unless other nations follow, some of these groups will simply refocus (several are dedicated to America's or the west's destruction: Zeta's, AQ, etc).
It really would be nice to see samples come back. My guess is that the next real choice will be around 2018 by America with red dragon. I would not be the least bit surprised if we send a small probe to phobos and diemos to grab samples. IDEALLY, we would grab from mars surface as well.
No. I was showing that the per capita metric is WORTHLESS. Your retarded reasoning that it has value is the real issue. The fact that you look at India and say that they have low rates, but ignore the fact that they are SECOND on growth (behind China) shows your lack of understanding. The growth is NOT occuring in either place due to population boom. It is occuring due to economic growth. The REAL issue is that the growth is being done by following CHina who did some of the WORST approaches. Even now, they have all of their pollution controls on electric generators turned off. I doubt that India is as bad as china, but their growth remains embedded on coal.
So, if the west cuts, it does ZERO GOOD if nations like China, India, Brazil, South Africa, Russia, etc. continue to grow their emissions by taking short cuts.
Hopefully you will start reasoning through this and realize what a nightmare Kyoto is. The best thing that the west can do is drop kyoto, and put in places DECENT TAXES on ALL GOODS that are tied to CO2 emissions from the country of origin. When the nation lowers their emissions, then the taxes ALL AROUND THE WORLD ON THOSE EXPORTS DROP. To the nation that lowers theirs quickest, they get the best rewards (lower costs of goods RELATIVE to their competitors).
You kyoto types need to start reasoning things out. Hell, Kyoto has been in place for a DECADE, and CO2 is growing rapidly. MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than America's output. Much much faster than the west is capable of cutting. And as I have said elsewhere, China's emissions are NOT what you think. When OCO2 goes up, you will see that they are 3x what we think. IOW, their emissions are closer to America's already, but with a QUICK upward growth. The west will likely come in close or lower. And other nations will likely show an increase over what accepted values, but not like China's. China's emissions are going to stun the world. And yet, you apologist will not care one whit about it. NOR will China's leadership.
The numbers that were being displayed were 2008. Correct me if I am wrong, but Ireland was doing OK prior to that.