Seriously, these need to be made in a none Chinese nation, IDEALLY, in America. This would offer a company like Motorola an opportunity to bring back manufacturing and then apply it to sales in America as well.
coughs, colds, fever, and yes, even Cancer. Scientists (mostly on payrolls) claimed all of the above. Part of it was a correlation == causation. Another part was executives telling them what to say.
Now, we have scientists that had found a correlation between aging and radicals. So, they used stats rather than hard proof to claim it. Why? Because SO MANY are in a hurry to be at the top of the heap.
Are radicals associated with aging? It would appear to be. Are radicals the cause of aging? Well, that needs to be researched rather than being declared as such.
Multiple nations have colluded to get some pretty shady nations the bomb. We now have: 1) North Korea (a totalitarian) with the bomb,
2) Iran (a religious totalitarian) close to having a bomb, 3) Burma actively working on a nuke (a 'medical' reactor that is 10x what is needed and buried more than 100' below ground) with North Korea and China, 4) Venezuela who as of last night became a totalitarian nation (willingly, imagine that) who supposedly got China and North Korea to agree to help them develop a nuke,
5) And Syria is said to be fairly quietly working on it as well.
And these are JUST the nations that the public KNOWs about.
Now, do you really think that these nations are getting the bomb to sit on it? Not likely.
But if you really think that you would like to see these go, please, go to somalia or pakistan and tell them that you are there to convert them to Christianity and ask that they not use the nuke in Christ's name. I am sure that your doing that will take care of things and the west can just ignore what is going on.
Look, imagine if somebody could walk away with 100 million dollars, would they do ? Many would! You KNOW that many would.
Well, In NK, the top leadership have most of what they want. Hell, they are driving new mercedes. They have Rolls Royce there. They have homes that would be equal to what millionaires have here. And it is free for the taking.
So, would walking away with 100 million dollars do for you? Nothing.
Now, imagine if you could kill somebody and make lots of gains, with little repercussion? Would you do it? Few would. Part of that is because they would wonder if there really was so little of repercussions. They will constantly wonder if they will be held accountable. BUT, if they KNOW that they will be held accountable, then VERY FEW WOULD DO IT.
Finally, if somebody launches a nuke against the USA, or a NATO nation, and the KNOWN response will be TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF ALL LEADERS AND EVERY MEMBER OF THEIR FAMILIES, and possibly their nation, do you think that OTHER nations will try that? Think that Iran, Burma, and now Venezuela will try it? DO you think that China will do it (who is the only major nation that is in active production of nuke warheads)?
Nope.
Since MAD can not work here, then we need for every small nation to understand that ANY USE OF A NUKE WILL MEAN THEIR TOTAL DESTRUCTION. Then and only then, will you not see any of these nations use one.
But if NK believes that they can send one into SK and America will do nothing, do you think that NK would send one in? I KNOW that they would.
If you really wish to avoid war, then make certain that the other side knows that war will mean their total annihilation. BTW, if NK does attack and we do nothing, then Iran will be next to attack. And it will occur quickly.
I hope that you are wrong. At this point, I think that DOD needs to put requirements that all of our weapons and supplies come from friendly nations only and that ideally, we get a lot more from America.
Nobody's talking about nuking North Korea pre-emptively because "we don't like the guys in charge"
You are right that we are not talking about that. But if I were North Korea, I would not even think of doing a test run of ICBM at this time.
It would be a case of 'he chose.. poorly'.
If somebody WILLINGLY NUKES YOUR NATION, YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN, YOUR FAMILY, are you really going to do nothing? And do you think that Americans will ask Obama to do nothing?
I can tell you that Obama would no doubt order the obliteration of the NK command. And likewise, if he did not, I would gladdly plug one in him and expect that Biden would finish the job that Obama was expected to do. And if he did not, then somebody else would do the same.
Keep in mind that I voted for Obama. I will stand with him on a lot of this because he inherited the 3rd worse situation that America has ever known (GD neo-cons; send them all to NK BEFORE we send in the nukes).
HOWEVER, if the man does not have the spine, balls to protect our nation when it gets attacked by nukes, then I want him gone quickly.
In addition, I have in-laws in SK. I suspect that when a missile is sent to attack America, that at least 3-5 would be sent into SK. More importantly, at this time,NK is probably sending one up one of their tunnels and priming it to blow. Likewise, the same with a sub. If I find out that my in-laws, and possibly my twin, sister-in-law, and 2 nephews are nuked, then yes, by god, I want NK GONE ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Any DECENT intelligence organization must work under the assumption that it has been penetrated.
There, I fixed that for you. The problem is that groups like DOD, FBI and DHS are both pretty worthless when it comes to Security. And yes, all 3 are in that group because they use things like WIndows as well as standard systems from China, even equipped with open USB and ignored NSA recommendations. Even when NSA said ABSOLUTELY NOT TO USE WINDOWS ON ANY NETWORK, All 3 of the others did and continue to use it. And when NSA was pushing Trusted systems only (such as Trusted Solaris, Trusted AIX, etc) WRT to networked apps, the other groups jumped on WIndows and then declared that their systems were secured. Even now, the DOD has shut down most USB (not all) but will remain on Windows and have gone back to declaring that their systems are Secured.
In light of Wikileaks, I am just amazed that America still exists. It is because of groups like this that have allowed CHina to steal just about anything that they want.
The fact is, that because the equipment is coming from China, then it is certain that it is loaded with backdoors. And it is coming more and more. The west MUST convince companies to bring back their manufacturing, OR start supporting companies that DO the manufacturing local. This is more true of the American gov. than any other.
Hmmm. I must not have hit submit.
Well, long story short, 1MW would provide around 1000 homes. If they wanted to provide long time storage for this, then they might cut back who they serve during power outages. Perhaps hospitals, streetlights, etc. OTH, if cheap enough, then provide a days worth for the area, and then count on ppl cutting their usage during an outage.
Hmmm. I would DOUBT it, but it is a possibility. I would think that power companies would want to make certain that they charge less at nights to encourage this approach. The reason is that it is much cheaper to run a power plant at a solid speed then to vary it. In fact, down in texas, they have to keep boilers mostly fired up to handle the loads due to wind drops. So having buffers (such as thermal or hydro storage) allows them to cut significantly the number of boilers that they have on-line and just spinning.
As I pointed out in my logs about 3 years ago, we should build molten salt generators, BUT use these for excess electricity storage. By building SMALL units (1-20 MW) these will take 1 acre or less to run. Then set up tax breaks to encourage small businesses of these. With that approach, it could buffer energy from AE, but also, it would allow grabbing the energy at night (cheaply) and then selling it during the day (for a profit).
The problem is that you are thinking that weapons are the issues. It is not. The issue is when others can not see what the other holds that causes nations to jump the gun. It is the reason why USA allowed a number of Soviet spies around the nation (and we knew who they were). Likewise, when reagan did his 'trust, but verify'. That enables USSR and USA to slowly wind down.
OTH, China is doing far more spying then USSR ever did, while at the same time working hard to prevent any body from seeing what they are up to. Those kinds of actions will lead China's current cold war with the west into a hot one.
Read the case of pentagon papers. The fact is, that JOURNALISM is protected. Simply dumped partially redacted files on the net is NOT journalism. Hell, they know it as well. Their name is wikiLEAKS, not wikiNEWS.
Or, you can remove the legally granted monopoly that they pay gov. HANDSOMELY for. By changing their monopoly fee to a tax that drops based on how many providers services the area (2 providers and tax is 1/2 for both), and opening it to anyone to compete. Comcast DOES charge a lot of money and it will encourage other providers to come in. Oh, the smaller towns will not get it at first. Instead, it will the large ones that do. BUT, with time, it will improve all. In addition, removing those monopolies would encourage businesses to put money into their infrastructure. We call those jobs.
Pentagon papers was somebody who was involved and distributed information that he was part of. Wikileaks was by a private who had NOTHING to do with it, but he stole into areas that he had no rights to be in.
Assume that are you mob. Pentagon papers would be if somebody that had signing rights (your wife) on your CC, then turned around and gave that information to a news organization who then investigated your illegal actions by following the CC numbers that they were given by a LEGAL holder (and sometimes user of) of that number.
OTH, wikileak perp did not have anything to do with the data that was leaked. In fact, he was not supposed to be in that area, but was. He was not supposed to be downloading it, but was (by faking it). Basically, he is no different than if a friend steals your wallet, pulls your card and then puts it in a number of web sites around the world with NO JOURNALISTIC INVESTIGATION.
Legal news service will take a lead and then follow it up, parse through it, and dissect the story. Normally it will have some bent to it.
A fencing site is one that will take stolen data, try to hide its origin and perhaps hide some of the worst parts. They will have zero story with and will have done dissection of it. And will simply dump it out.
The former is CNN, Times, Faux, MSNBC, ABC, even national enquiror (though it is rarely accurate).
The later is an illegal operation, and I believe that is exactly what wikileaks is.
BTW, if you read that wiki, it about a NEWS organization 1'st amendment rights. Wikileaks is not about news or about reporters. It is about dumping stolen information on the web. There is a big difference.
I have been backing Wikileaks until somebody on another site pointed out an interesting point. This data was stolen and then leaked. It remains STOLEN property. As such, wikileaks, and all those that are running it, are not just outing information, but are actually fencing it. The fact that they are asking for money makes it as much fencing as anything else.
The question that everybody should be thinking of, is we argue for us to have personal privacy, including holding not just those that stole the information responsible, but those that propagate it as well. Why? Because they are fencing KNOWN STOLEN PROPERTY.
So, why is it ok for somebody to steal,release, and disseminate a govs. property, but it is wrong to do the same for personal property?
And for Ron being a good Libertarian, why is he not arguing the same?
The cables are our interpretations of what is going on. Sadly, diplomats get many things wrong ESP. when it comes to NK and China. The fact that Jong went back and forth between China and NK just before NK's actions hints that China KNEW what was going on (if not actually ordered it). And while I despise Chinese leaders for being in a cold war with the west, it is obvious that they make strategy based on long term plans.
How many props on US subs do you see? It is possible that we no longer worry about it, but it was an important part at one time. There are other parts that we do not let others see.
I am sorry; I was indicating that China is likely to come to North Korea's aid if NK decides to start a war with SK. And yes, this is in spite of what we have read recently. Based on the fact that Jong was taking trips to China in his train just prior to his antics says that most likely CHina knew what NK was up (or even encouraged it). Keep in mind that CHina wants to remind the west that it needs China. WIth that approach, then China does not have to worry about working together.
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Think in terms of what happened when enemies use active radar against aircraft. We simply allow the connection to be more physical and less virtual.
Seriously, these need to be made in a none Chinese nation, IDEALLY, in America. This would offer a company like Motorola an opportunity to bring back manufacturing and then apply it to sales in America as well.
coughs, colds, fever, and yes, even Cancer. Scientists (mostly on payrolls) claimed all of the above. Part of it was a correlation == causation. Another part was executives telling them what to say.
Now, we have scientists that had found a correlation between aging and radicals. So, they used stats rather than hard proof to claim it. Why? Because SO MANY are in a hurry to be at the top of the heap.
Are radicals associated with aging? It would appear to be. Are radicals the cause of aging? Well, that needs to be researched rather than being declared as such.
Multiple nations have colluded to get some pretty shady nations the bomb. We now have:
1) North Korea (a totalitarian) with the bomb,
2) Iran (a religious totalitarian) close to having a bomb,
3) Burma actively working on a nuke (a 'medical' reactor that is 10x what is needed and buried more than 100' below ground) with North Korea and China,
4) Venezuela who as of last night became a totalitarian nation (willingly, imagine that) who supposedly got China and North Korea to agree to help them develop a nuke,
5) And Syria is said to be fairly quietly working on it as well.
And these are JUST the nations that the public KNOWs about.
Now, do you really think that these nations are getting the bomb to sit on it? Not likely.
But if you really think that you would like to see these go, please, go to somalia or pakistan and tell them that you are there to convert them to Christianity and ask that they not use the nuke in Christ's name. I am sure that your doing that will take care of things and the west can just ignore what is going on.
Look, imagine if somebody could walk away with 100 million dollars, would they do ? Many would! You KNOW that many would.
Well, In NK, the top leadership have most of what they want. Hell, they are driving new mercedes. They have Rolls Royce there. They have homes that would be equal to what millionaires have here. And it is free for the taking. So, would walking away with 100 million dollars do for you? Nothing.
Now, imagine if you could kill somebody and make lots of gains, with little repercussion? Would you do it? Few would. Part of that is because they would wonder if there really was so little of repercussions. They will constantly wonder if they will be held accountable. BUT, if they KNOW that they will be held accountable, then VERY FEW WOULD DO IT.
Finally, if somebody launches a nuke against the USA, or a NATO nation, and the KNOWN response will be TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF ALL LEADERS AND EVERY MEMBER OF THEIR FAMILIES, and possibly their nation, do you think that OTHER nations will try that? Think that Iran, Burma, and now Venezuela will try it? DO you think that China will do it (who is the only major nation that is in active production of nuke warheads)? Nope.
Since MAD can not work here, then we need for every small nation to understand that ANY USE OF A NUKE WILL MEAN THEIR TOTAL DESTRUCTION. Then and only then, will you not see any of these nations use one.
But if NK believes that they can send one into SK and America will do nothing, do you think that NK would send one in? I KNOW that they would.
If you really wish to avoid war, then make certain that the other side knows that war will mean their total annihilation. BTW, if NK does attack and we do nothing, then Iran will be next to attack. And it will occur quickly.
I hope that you are wrong. At this point, I think that DOD needs to put requirements that all of our weapons and supplies come from friendly nations only and that ideally, we get a lot more from America.
Nobody's talking about nuking North Korea pre-emptively because "we don't like the guys in charge"
.. poorly'.
You are right that we are not talking about that. But if I were North Korea, I would not even think of doing a test run of ICBM at this time.
It would be a case of 'he chose
If somebody WILLINGLY NUKES YOUR NATION, YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN, YOUR FAMILY, are you really going to do nothing? And do you think that Americans will ask Obama to do nothing? I can tell you that Obama would no doubt order the obliteration of the NK command. And likewise, if he did not, I would gladdly plug one in him and expect that Biden would finish the job that Obama was expected to do. And if he did not, then somebody else would do the same.
Keep in mind that I voted for Obama. I will stand with him on a lot of this because he inherited the 3rd worse situation that America has ever known (GD neo-cons; send them all to NK BEFORE we send in the nukes).
HOWEVER, if the man does not have the spine, balls to protect our nation when it gets attacked by nukes, then I want him gone quickly.
In addition, I have in-laws in SK. I suspect that when a missile is sent to attack America, that at least 3-5 would be sent into SK. More importantly, at this time,NK is probably sending one up one of their tunnels and priming it to blow. Likewise, the same with a sub. If I find out that my in-laws, and possibly my twin, sister-in-law, and 2 nephews are nuked, then yes, by god, I want NK GONE ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Putting your thumb into a hole and then driving it in further?
Any DECENT intelligence organization must work under the assumption that it has been penetrated.
There, I fixed that for you. The problem is that groups like DOD, FBI and DHS are both pretty worthless when it comes to Security. And yes, all 3 are in that group because they use things like WIndows as well as standard systems from China, even equipped with open USB and ignored NSA recommendations. Even when NSA said ABSOLUTELY NOT TO USE WINDOWS ON ANY NETWORK, All 3 of the others did and continue to use it. And when NSA was pushing Trusted systems only (such as Trusted Solaris, Trusted AIX, etc) WRT to networked apps, the other groups jumped on WIndows and then declared that their systems were secured. Even now, the DOD has shut down most USB (not all) but will remain on Windows and have gone back to declaring that their systems are Secured.
In light of Wikileaks, I am just amazed that America still exists. It is because of groups like this that have allowed CHina to steal just about anything that they want.
The fact is, that because the equipment is coming from China, then it is certain that it is loaded with backdoors. And it is coming more and more. The west MUST convince companies to bring back their manufacturing, OR start supporting companies that DO the manufacturing local. This is more true of the American gov. than any other.
Hmmm. I must not have hit submit. Well, long story short, 1MW would provide around 1000 homes. If they wanted to provide long time storage for this, then they might cut back who they serve during power outages. Perhaps hospitals, streetlights, etc. OTH, if cheap enough, then provide a days worth for the area, and then count on ppl cutting their usage during an outage.
Hmmm. I would DOUBT it, but it is a possibility. I would think that power companies would want to make certain that they charge less at nights to encourage this approach. The reason is that it is much cheaper to run a power plant at a solid speed then to vary it. In fact, down in texas, they have to keep boilers mostly fired up to handle the loads due to wind drops. So having buffers (such as thermal or hydro storage) allows them to cut significantly the number of boilers that they have on-line and just spinning.
As I pointed out in my logs about 3 years ago, we should build molten salt generators, BUT use these for excess electricity storage. By building SMALL units (1-20 MW) these will take 1 acre or less to run. Then set up tax breaks to encourage small businesses of these. With that approach, it could buffer energy from AE, but also, it would allow grabbing the energy at night (cheaply) and then selling it during the day (for a profit).
The problem is that you are thinking that weapons are the issues. It is not. The issue is when others can not see what the other holds that causes nations to jump the gun. It is the reason why USA allowed a number of Soviet spies around the nation (and we knew who they were). Likewise, when reagan did his 'trust, but verify'. That enables USSR and USA to slowly wind down.
OTH, China is doing far more spying then USSR ever did, while at the same time working hard to prevent any body from seeing what they are up to. Those kinds of actions will lead China's current cold war with the west into a hot one.
Read the case of pentagon papers. The fact is, that JOURNALISM is protected. Simply dumped partially redacted files on the net is NOT journalism. Hell, they know it as well. Their name is wikiLEAKS, not wikiNEWS.
Or, you can remove the legally granted monopoly that they pay gov. HANDSOMELY for. By changing their monopoly fee to a tax that drops based on how many providers services the area (2 providers and tax is 1/2 for both), and opening it to anyone to compete. Comcast DOES charge a lot of money and it will encourage other providers to come in. Oh, the smaller towns will not get it at first. Instead, it will the large ones that do. BUT, with time, it will improve all. In addition, removing those monopolies would encourage businesses to put money into their infrastructure. We call those jobs.
Assume that are you mob. Pentagon papers would be if somebody that had signing rights (your wife) on your CC, then turned around and gave that information to a news organization who then investigated your illegal actions by following the CC numbers that they were given by a LEGAL holder (and sometimes user of) of that number.
OTH, wikileak perp did not have anything to do with the data that was leaked. In fact, he was not supposed to be in that area, but was. He was not supposed to be downloading it, but was (by faking it). Basically, he is no different than if a friend steals your wallet, pulls your card and then puts it in a number of web sites around the world with NO JOURNALISTIC INVESTIGATION.
A fencing site is one that will take stolen data, try to hide its origin and perhaps hide some of the worst parts. They will have zero story with and will have done dissection of it. And will simply dump it out.
The former is CNN, Times, Faux, MSNBC, ABC, even national enquiror (though it is rarely accurate). The later is an illegal operation, and I believe that is exactly what wikileaks is.
BTW, if you read that wiki, it about a NEWS organization 1'st amendment rights. Wikileaks is not about news or about reporters. It is about dumping stolen information on the web. There is a big difference.
WOuld you mind backing up what you say with sharing your Credit card # and Social Security numbers on wikileaks? Or perhaps here?
I have been backing Wikileaks until somebody on another site pointed out an interesting point. This data was stolen and then leaked. It remains STOLEN property. As such, wikileaks, and all those that are running it, are not just outing information, but are actually fencing it. The fact that they are asking for money makes it as much fencing as anything else.
The question that everybody should be thinking of, is we argue for us to have personal privacy, including holding not just those that stole the information responsible, but those that propagate it as well. Why? Because they are fencing KNOWN STOLEN PROPERTY.
So, why is it ok for somebody to steal,release, and disseminate a govs. property, but it is wrong to do the same for personal property?
And for Ron being a good Libertarian, why is he not arguing the same?
The cables are our interpretations of what is going on. Sadly, diplomats get many things wrong ESP. when it comes to NK and China. The fact that Jong went back and forth between China and NK just before NK's actions hints that China KNEW what was going on (if not actually ordered it). And while I despise Chinese leaders for being in a cold war with the west, it is obvious that they make strategy based on long term plans.
Because this bullet is going a VERY short distance.
How many props on US subs do you see? It is possible that we no longer worry about it, but it was an important part at one time. There are other parts that we do not let others see.
I am sorry; I was indicating that China is likely to come to North Korea's aid if NK decides to start a war with SK. And yes, this is in spite of what we have read recently. Based on the fact that Jong was taking trips to China in his train just prior to his antics says that most likely CHina knew what NK was up (or even encouraged it). Keep in mind that CHina wants to remind the west that it needs China. WIth that approach, then China does not have to worry about working together.