Here is a clue. I grew up on farms. I have worked the fields. Most of the ppl here in America are STILL AMERICANS. And yes, many of them are white. And illegals do not do the jobs that nobody else will do. They do jobs that they can get. The problem is that they are taking our nation BACKWARDS.
You obviously do not know many illegals. I know a number including my sister-in-law (she is now legal). Many of her friends do not pay SS or ANY of the taxes, because they are paid under the table.
I never said that a central database stores our information. It stores a pin to access the data on our card. IOW, there are 2 different passwords to access the key to the encrypted data. And the fed's password would be generated, so nothing to enter. Using that approach, then a fed can give a yeah-nea on if somebody is elgible by using their pin to access the card, that is swept through a reader.
Illegals come into America (and I assume the same is true in EU and UK), and take a job. Ok. No problem. Right?
Wrong. For starters, the companies that hire them will normally not pay taxes. That removes revenue from the system. But that is not the issue.
Of course, illegals flowing into the west, provides a safety valve for nations that are overpopulated, right? Nope. They simply delay the inevitable. Those nations with loads of illegals flowing to America or to EU have MAJOR issues with resources contention. And will be in civil war down the road unless they change (birth control is a great start).
And the old argument that Illegals really do not use resources is also not true. Many more resources are used and not paid for.
The real issue is when illegals come in, the taxes are not paid, AND the illegal will typically get less pay. That starts a false downward trend on the costs of things. The issue then, is that NORMALLY, automation will take over. In this case, it does not. America had two great economic times. The first was in late 1700 before slavery caught on. The second was after slavery was outlawed. We saw SO many new ideas and automation show up. Why? Because it was cheaper to come up with new ideas, then to buy slaves.
The reason is that it is cheaper to have lower costs labor than to pay for automation. Automation requires cheaper energy to be cost effective. Had America not been using Illegal's, then we would have INSISTED on cheap energy. The problem is that Coal is NOT cheap energy. It is cheap relative to others such as Oil and Nukes, but still not cheap.
Illegals have costs the west heavily. We need to disallow illegals, and re-focus on cheap energy and automation. There is a coming shortage of food and resources (and believe me, it is not here). China is starting to prevent exports of Rare Earth. In addition, we can see other nations loving our dollar, but hating the west and democracy or even socialism (Venezuela comes to mind).
In the end, the other issue that bothers me a great deal, is that so many ppl treat illegals AS slaves and 2'nd class ppl. They are neither. Yet, we allow it. Disgusting.
You know, I find it amazing. China continues to load this spy bots on goods destined for the west. Yet, SO many westerners continue to buy it. Here is a thought. QUIT BUYING IT, or SUE THEM. If you start suing the company for infecting your window systems, then companies will quit producing in China OR they will start caring about SECURITY.
If it is encrypted with a pin that I have to enter, I am fine with that idea. As I said elsewhere, this should be encrypted on the card, but with 2 pins to get to it; Mine or the feds.
Of course, the real solution will be that the data is encrypted on the card, and you either give a pin, or the feds have a pin for it to unlock it. I am not wild about ID cards, but I am also oppose to illegals destroy our economy (and yes, they are costing America HUGE, along with the outsourcing). EU nations handle it by requiring IDs for every legal person to have a card. So do many other nations. In the end, the question is, do we continue on this mutual suicide path, or do we take risks with the feds? Up until about 2002-2003 (and ignoring such times as 1940 ), I would have said that this was ideal. In fact, when Eisenhower did his infamous operation wetback, we actually sent Americans over the border to Mexico because they could not prove who they were just due to skin color. Oddly, most of those spoke ONLY english, and little Spanish.. Something like this would prevent such actions.
Poppycock to the Regulations.
In the phone, power, gas companies, the are all use to and know the various regulators. When I worked at US West, I saw exactly how much of an impact that had on us. BUT, we knew how to work within the framework. Now, with that said, regulations DO cost money. The company response is not free.
But the power companies are holding off doing more power lines in hope that the feds will do it for them, while they take the profits to the bank. And you know what? I am thinking that the feds SHOULD do it. And then charge the power companies for use of it, and the power company would then be allowed to ONLY pass it through (no profits from it). I am not normally a fan of gov. intervention, but in this case, the fed is the right group to get large projects like this done. It used to be that the companies had responsible leaders, but now they have abdicated their role. It is time for the US to do what companies us to do.
We have idiots that have sent all the work to China.
We have fools that buy this junk and then will blame the crackers in CHina that are paid to do this, rather than blame themselves, or the companies that sent the work there in the first place.
Personally, I would like to see some of these Windows ppl SUE Energizer and other companies for selling the products that infect their machines. Force them to pay out 10-100x what they made in profit. Once western companies realize the high costs of doing business there, then and only then will they stop.
3 years ago, I worked for Jeppesen. I had occasion to go there. Loved it. Loved the ppl. Almost all were extremely friendly (One accosted me on the street, he was upset that I did not speak German; since he was obviously older than me, I believe that he grew up around WWII time frame, possibly first decade post war ). Wished that I had seen more. Next time, I will be hitting Bavaria (Dad's side from there).
An American co-worker there had a stroke. He and several other Americans were amazed with how nice things were. Speedy. Interestingly, they had drugs that I believe are just now hitting the American market. Germany has FDA similar to what we use to have. Now, FDA allows little experimental drugs except when it comes from large companies. Before that time, I had belief that all EU nations slow and inefficient in Health care. Found out that it was was anything but. I am not a big fan of gov. intervention in markets, but in this case, Health care insurance is nothing more than admining spreading risk amongst all. The feds and state govs do just that, typically with far less overhead and corruption compared to private sector. I do have to say that it does make me think. In particular, somebody that has a safety net for such things, then it makes it easier to take risks. Yes, it also allows lazy ppl an out, but it also give the net that allows ppl to leave safe jobs and do start-ups.
One other thing that I liked. Apparently, if you do not have state, or private insurance, Germany checks you at the hospital if you are legally in the nation, . If so, then you are treated for free. Even the vacationers. HOWEVER, if you are illegal, you will be given emergency treatment, stabilized, and then sent back to your original nation. That makes sense to me.
First, I am a Libertarian. It is was you neo-cons that applied it yourselves. Basically, the reagan and W type of politicians that we can no longer afford. And you neo-cons/teabaggers are the ones that killed the fiscal conservatives. McCain is a fiscal conservative. So was Clinton. Yet, you guys fight these ppl. You support the likes of reagan and W.
ANd yes, your short-sightedness is apperant in your rant. What holds us back is that we had exactly one arch to get us to space. ZERO competition. So, what is needed is multiple deliver systems and multiple locations. That multiple locations would be Bigelow Aerospace Private Space Stations.
Bolden is using NASA to push the private systems out there. Once that happens, then costs will drop. Why? Because the more that you launch the lower the fixed costs. That was the idea of the shuttle that Nixon pushed. Sadly reagan killed that. Later the neo-con congress of 2000 forced NASA to not develop VASIMR or transhab. Thankfully, a patriot pushed transhab into BA, while an astronaut/engineer/physicist with the help of NASA created a new rocket engine.
Actually, you are correct about the robotics. We DO need to push that. And interestingly, just about ANY manned venture is going to have involve a lot more robotics. The reason is simple. There are lots of places where it is cheaper and make a great deal more sense. OTH, having a man on-site to do odd jobs makes so many things possible. For example, if we had somebody on Mars, then opportunity would be rolling today.
We need the two together to really make things happen. AND we need the robotics back here in America. Along with a major push for energy. Renewable and nuke energy.
Actually, not the same. NASA (Schirra) started using the camaer and then NASA approached Hasselblad about doing more. What I was suggesting, is that one of the many digital camera manufacturers would do well to design systems that can take on the vacuum and temp extremes and then sell it to the public. That is what Fischer did.
To be really fair, it did not. We KNEW in the 70's that the USSR was already bankrupted. There was little that reagan did that affected the USSR outcome with ONE exception. Carter had put a grain embargo on USSR for their invasion of Afghanistan. reagan lifted it shortly after coming into office (as a present for the farmers). Now, the issue is that typically when a large nation or even an empire collapses, they will do one of 3 things:
Massively expand outward via wars. Typically they engage in one or more wars to keep the economy going falsely and ppl pre-occupied (sound familiar)?
Collapse inward, typically with a revolution (Romania comes to mind).
A new change of gov brought in peacefully.
The last is what happened with most nations of the USSR esp. Poland and Russia. It really was amazing to witness. Had we kept the grain embargo on USSR, then the gov COULD have pointed to the west and said that WE were responsible for denying them food. Basically, that embargo could have forced USSR's collapse to go very violent outwards.
In this one regard, reagan did the right thing. In nearly all else, the man was a total idiot being ran by the likes of Cheney and Rove. It was reagan's and W's massive debt during good times that has caused America's and possible the west's economic collapse. Of course, the fact that W and so far Obama have not held China to their treaties and WTO obligation has a LOT to do with this.
Think of the exploding/flammable capacitors that we saw for a decade or more coming from cheap chinese construction. They had stolen a design from Japan which Japan knew to be lousy. Last place I would want that is in a thin metal can in one of the most hostile environments going.
I do not want them in the business of Health Care either. However, some pretty good arguments have been made for Single Payer (extending Medicare to all). As it is, Medicare served as the basis of a health insurance for Germany, Japan, Swiss, etc and all are well known for their excellent health care.
The reason is that NASA funds things like that, and then Russia, ESA, JAXA, CSA, and even Chinese use that as the approved list. The fact is, that the testing HAS to happen since it was not designed from the gitgo with space missions in mind. If an America company was smart (kodak comes to mind, but then, they are not very smart), they would follow the Fischer Pen approach and design a camera to survive in space, water, etc. and then advertise it as being rugged for space as well as water, camping, etc. That little bit of marketing helped make Fischer Space pen sell a million more than what it would have otherwise.
The same set of neo-cons that carp about Stimulus bill are busy pushing another jobs bill via this. And where are they from? Texas, Fl, Al, and Ca.
Surprised that they would put their election ahead of the nation?
Not me.
With that said, this bill is a prime example of neo-con spend and borrow. It wants to extend the shuttle for another 2-3 years, but only gives up 3 billion to fund it. Well, if you fly ONE SHUTTLE, then you have to fund the entire crew. That means 3-4 BILLION for that year. So, you are better off flying as many as possible since each flight is only about 200 million in variable costs.
The problem that we have with our space system is that we have depended on exactly ONE arch to get us to the moon and then exactly one to get us into LEO. That needs to change if we want to support a moon base, or even a mars base. As such we NEED multiple architectures. in
Human lift to LEO,
Small and Medium Cargo Lift to LEO
SUPER-Heavy cargo lift to leo.
Pluggable way to add a tug to a craft.
The above will prevent Congress from doing what it is doing AND will prevent an accident in a rocket from shutting down the entire space program.
Nixon killed skylab because he did not fund NASA properly for building the shuttle after shutting down Apollo in 1970.
Likewise, W and the 2004 Congress SEVERELY underfunded NASA after pushing a mistake like Constellation.
In addition, Challenger and Columbia shut down NASA's Manned missions for several years.
For us to move off this planet, we need to prevent such nightmares from happening again.
The heavy lifter that NASA is pushing is not on the drawing board yet. They want to do more RD to bring up to speed on engines. THEN they want to have Private Space build 2 or more heavy lift mostly on their dollar, and have NASA focus on doing cutting edge RD as well as focused on how to build out a system that moves us out of LEO.
The new plan will build up private space and help get them to the moon along with a national consortium (almost certainly all of the ISS crew and possible adding India and Brazil).
The issue will be the idiots in congress that did not fund these vehicles over the last 6 years, but are now wanting to throw good money after bad ideas.
I would prefer a couple of balloons to float around with small amounts of equipment: weather info; Camera below: magnetic sensor: radiation detector on top. That would give a lot of information on places to look at. In addition, the camera would be able to see much closer than could the sats, though it would not be controllable in terms of where to fly. But at this time, it is useful to get a closer look at the planet via serin dipity.
Seriously, lets send some robotics around to locate a new base, and then send these to set up the site and put in BA units.
That would allow us to get ppl up there ASAP.
The majority of junk is from garbage breaking off from the separations, etc. The issues are not the old sats as many have been moved. The real issues are the SMALL ONES (size of nuts, screws, etc) that can come in at 30K mph (retrograde) and take out the ISS or a craft. Another biggie was China's recent anti-sat work. When they destroyed the weather sat, they sent LOADS of small scrape EVERYWHERE.
W, and even Obama, have ignored the issues with this. China is working hard to have an offensive against the west. But, it can not be a gun for a gun. We have advanced systems that barring their stealing more, they will not have for another 10-20 years. So, they have been hard at work figuring out how to take out our communications and spy sats. With the aide of the neo-cons who passed tax incentives for sending manufacturing to China AND disregarded that China is breaking all of the legal treaties regarding trade, we have really screwed ourselves.
The west's best chance is to bring back manufacturing. In addition, we need to re-focus an effort on securing all of the west's systems.
Years ago, I use to support Sun and their OSS efforts. First time that they opened Solaris, I was all over it. The second time, I said that I did not fully trust sun. Pending what really happens, it proves exactly how I feel about code that comes from companies like this.
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Here is a clue. I grew up on farms. I have worked the fields. Most of the ppl here in America are STILL AMERICANS. And yes, many of them are white. And illegals do not do the jobs that nobody else will do. They do jobs that they can get. The problem is that they are taking our nation BACKWARDS.
You obviously do not know many illegals. I know a number including my sister-in-law (she is now legal). Many of her friends do not pay SS or ANY of the taxes, because they are paid under the table.
I never said that a central database stores our information. It stores a pin to access the data on our card. IOW, there are 2 different passwords to access the key to the encrypted data. And the fed's password would be generated, so nothing to enter. Using that approach, then a fed can give a yeah-nea on if somebody is elgible by using their pin to access the card, that is swept through a reader.
Far from it.
Illegals come into America (and I assume the same is true in EU and UK), and take a job. Ok. No problem. Right?
Wrong. For starters, the companies that hire them will normally not pay taxes. That removes revenue from the system. But that is not the issue.
Of course, illegals flowing into the west, provides a safety valve for nations that are overpopulated, right? Nope. They simply delay the inevitable. Those nations with loads of illegals flowing to America or to EU have MAJOR issues with resources contention. And will be in civil war down the road unless they change (birth control is a great start).
And the old argument that Illegals really do not use resources is also not true. Many more resources are used and not paid for.
The real issue is when illegals come in, the taxes are not paid, AND the illegal will typically get less pay. That starts a false downward trend on the costs of things. The issue then, is that NORMALLY, automation will take over. In this case, it does not.
America had two great economic times. The first was in late 1700 before slavery caught on. The second was after slavery was outlawed. We saw SO many new ideas and automation show up. Why? Because it was cheaper to come up with new ideas, then to buy slaves.
The reason is that it is cheaper to have lower costs labor than to pay for automation. Automation requires cheaper energy to be cost effective. Had America not been using Illegal's, then we would have INSISTED on cheap energy. The problem is that Coal is NOT cheap energy. It is cheap relative to others such as Oil and Nukes, but still not cheap.
Illegals have costs the west heavily. We need to disallow illegals, and re-focus on cheap energy and automation. There is a coming shortage of food and resources (and believe me, it is not here). China is starting to prevent exports of Rare Earth. In addition, we can see other nations loving our dollar, but hating the west and democracy or even socialism (Venezuela comes to mind).
In the end, the other issue that bothers me a great deal, is that so many ppl treat illegals AS slaves and 2'nd class ppl. They are neither. Yet, we allow it. Disgusting.
You know, I find it amazing. China continues to load this spy bots on goods destined for the west. Yet, SO many westerners continue to buy it. Here is a thought. QUIT BUYING IT, or SUE THEM. If you start suing the company for infecting your window systems, then companies will quit producing in China OR they will start caring about SECURITY.
If it is encrypted with a pin that I have to enter, I am fine with that idea. As I said elsewhere, this should be encrypted on the card, but with 2 pins to get to it; Mine or the feds.
Of course, the real solution will be that the data is encrypted on the card, and you either give a pin, or the feds have a pin for it to unlock it. I am not wild about ID cards, but I am also oppose to illegals destroy our economy (and yes, they are costing America HUGE, along with the outsourcing). EU nations handle it by requiring IDs for every legal person to have a card. So do many other nations. In the end, the question is, do we continue on this mutual suicide path, or do we take risks with the feds? Up until about 2002-2003 (and ignoring such times as 1940 ), I would have said that this was ideal. In fact, when Eisenhower did his infamous operation wetback, we actually sent Americans over the border to Mexico because they could not prove who they were just due to skin color. Oddly, most of those spoke ONLY english, and little Spanish.. Something like this would prevent such actions.
Poppycock to the Regulations. In the phone, power, gas companies, the are all use to and know the various regulators. When I worked at US West, I saw exactly how much of an impact that had on us. BUT, we knew how to work within the framework. Now, with that said, regulations DO cost money. The company response is not free.
But the power companies are holding off doing more power lines in hope that the feds will do it for them, while they take the profits to the bank. And you know what? I am thinking that the feds SHOULD do it. And then charge the power companies for use of it, and the power company would then be allowed to ONLY pass it through (no profits from it). I am not normally a fan of gov. intervention, but in this case, the fed is the right group to get large projects like this done. It used to be that the companies had responsible leaders, but now they have abdicated their role. It is time for the US to do what companies us to do.
Personally, I would like to see some of these Windows ppl SUE Energizer and other companies for selling the products that infect their machines. Force them to pay out 10-100x what they made in profit. Once western companies realize the high costs of doing business there, then and only then will they stop.
3 years ago, I worked for Jeppesen. I had occasion to go there. Loved it. Loved the ppl. Almost all were extremely friendly (One accosted me on the street, he was upset that I did not speak German; since he was obviously older than me, I believe that he grew up around WWII time frame, possibly first decade post war ). Wished that I had seen more. Next time, I will be hitting Bavaria (Dad's side from there).
An American co-worker there had a stroke. He and several other Americans were amazed with how nice things were. Speedy. Interestingly, they had drugs that I believe are just now hitting the American market. Germany has FDA similar to what we use to have. Now, FDA allows little experimental drugs except when it comes from large companies. Before that time, I had belief that all EU nations slow and inefficient in Health care. Found out that it was was anything but. I am not a big fan of gov. intervention in markets, but in this case, Health care insurance is nothing more than admining spreading risk amongst all. The feds and state govs do just that, typically with far less overhead and corruption compared to private sector. I do have to say that it does make me think. In particular, somebody that has a safety net for such things, then it makes it easier to take risks. Yes, it also allows lazy ppl an out, but it also give the net that allows ppl to leave safe jobs and do start-ups.
One other thing that I liked. Apparently, if you do not have state, or private insurance, Germany checks you at the hospital if you are legally in the nation, . If so, then you are treated for free. Even the vacationers. HOWEVER, if you are illegal, you will be given emergency treatment, stabilized, and then sent back to your original nation. That makes sense to me.
First, I am a Libertarian. It is was you neo-cons that applied it yourselves. Basically, the reagan and W type of politicians that we can no longer afford. And you neo-cons/teabaggers are the ones that killed the fiscal conservatives. McCain is a fiscal conservative. So was Clinton. Yet, you guys fight these ppl. You support the likes of reagan and W. ANd yes, your short-sightedness is apperant in your rant. What holds us back is that we had exactly one arch to get us to space. ZERO competition. So, what is needed is multiple deliver systems and multiple locations. That multiple locations would be Bigelow Aerospace Private Space Stations. Bolden is using NASA to push the private systems out there. Once that happens, then costs will drop. Why? Because the more that you launch the lower the fixed costs. That was the idea of the shuttle that Nixon pushed. Sadly reagan killed that. Later the neo-con congress of 2000 forced NASA to not develop VASIMR or transhab. Thankfully, a patriot pushed transhab into BA, while an astronaut/engineer/physicist with the help of NASA created a new rocket engine.
Actually, you are correct about the robotics. We DO need to push that. And interestingly, just about ANY manned venture is going to have involve a lot more robotics. The reason is simple. There are lots of places where it is cheaper and make a great deal more sense. OTH, having a man on-site to do odd jobs makes so many things possible. For example, if we had somebody on Mars, then opportunity would be rolling today. We need the two together to really make things happen. AND we need the robotics back here in America. Along with a major push for energy. Renewable and nuke energy.
Actually, not the same. NASA (Schirra) started using the camaer and then NASA approached Hasselblad about doing more. What I was suggesting, is that one of the many digital camera manufacturers would do well to design systems that can take on the vacuum and temp extremes and then sell it to the public. That is what Fischer did.
The last is what happened with most nations of the USSR esp. Poland and Russia. It really was amazing to witness. Had we kept the grain embargo on USSR, then the gov COULD have pointed to the west and said that WE were responsible for denying them food. Basically, that embargo could have forced USSR's collapse to go very violent outwards. In this one regard, reagan did the right thing. In nearly all else, the man was a total idiot being ran by the likes of Cheney and Rove. It was reagan's and W's massive debt during good times that has caused America's and possible the west's economic collapse. Of course, the fact that W and so far Obama have not held China to their treaties and WTO obligation has a LOT to do with this.
Think of the exploding/flammable capacitors that we saw for a decade or more coming from cheap chinese construction. They had stolen a design from Japan which Japan knew to be lousy. Last place I would want that is in a thin metal can in one of the most hostile environments going.
I do not want them in the business of Health Care either. However, some pretty good arguments have been made for Single Payer (extending Medicare to all). As it is, Medicare served as the basis of a health insurance for Germany, Japan, Swiss, etc and all are well known for their excellent health care.
She wants to slow DOWN new ones and keep the existing one going.
The reason is that NASA funds things like that, and then Russia, ESA, JAXA, CSA, and even Chinese use that as the approved list. The fact is, that the testing HAS to happen since it was not designed from the gitgo with space missions in mind. If an America company was smart (kodak comes to mind, but then, they are not very smart), they would follow the Fischer Pen approach and design a camera to survive in space, water, etc. and then advertise it as being rugged for space as well as water, camping, etc. That little bit of marketing helped make Fischer Space pen sell a million more than what it would have otherwise.
WHich also ignores that NASA actually helped build up the micro computer industry. If not for NASA, we would still be using Mainframes and Vax.
The above will prevent Congress from doing what it is doing AND will prevent an accident in a rocket from shutting down the entire space program. Nixon killed skylab because he did not fund NASA properly for building the shuttle after shutting down Apollo in 1970. Likewise, W and the 2004 Congress SEVERELY underfunded NASA after pushing a mistake like Constellation. In addition, Challenger and Columbia shut down NASA's Manned missions for several years. For us to move off this planet, we need to prevent such nightmares from happening again. The heavy lifter that NASA is pushing is not on the drawing board yet. They want to do more RD to bring up to speed on engines. THEN they want to have Private Space build 2 or more heavy lift mostly on their dollar, and have NASA focus on doing cutting edge RD as well as focused on how to build out a system that moves us out of LEO. The new plan will build up private space and help get them to the moon along with a national consortium (almost certainly all of the ISS crew and possible adding India and Brazil). The issue will be the idiots in congress that did not fund these vehicles over the last 6 years, but are now wanting to throw good money after bad ideas.
I would prefer a couple of balloons to float around with small amounts of equipment: weather info; Camera below: magnetic sensor: radiation detector on top. That would give a lot of information on places to look at. In addition, the camera would be able to see much closer than could the sats, though it would not be controllable in terms of where to fly. But at this time, it is useful to get a closer look at the planet via serin dipity.
I am guessing that you did not see it coming, or going.
Seriously, lets send some robotics around to locate a new base, and then send these to set up the site and put in BA units. That would allow us to get ppl up there ASAP.
The majority of junk is from garbage breaking off from the separations, etc. The issues are not the old sats as many have been moved. The real issues are the SMALL ONES (size of nuts, screws, etc) that can come in at 30K mph (retrograde) and take out the ISS or a craft. Another biggie was China's recent anti-sat work. When they destroyed the weather sat, they sent LOADS of small scrape EVERYWHERE.
W, and even Obama, have ignored the issues with this. China is working hard to have an offensive against the west. But, it can not be a gun for a gun. We have advanced systems that barring their stealing more, they will not have for another 10-20 years. So, they have been hard at work figuring out how to take out our communications and spy sats. With the aide of the neo-cons who passed tax incentives for sending manufacturing to China AND disregarded that China is breaking all of the legal treaties regarding trade, we have really screwed ourselves.
The west's best chance is to bring back manufacturing. In addition, we need to re-focus an effort on securing all of the west's systems.
Years ago, I use to support Sun and their OSS efforts. First time that they opened Solaris, I was all over it. The second time, I said that I did not fully trust sun. Pending what really happens, it proves exactly how I feel about code that comes from companies like this.