they will likely try, but it should be easier/cheaper to mine than the ground based REMs. In addition, higher concentration.
But, assume that China gov subsidized and dumps (which is how they do things like Steel, aluminum, LEDs, solar, etc). All Japanese gov needs to do is continue mining with gov mining and setting it aside ( like US Helium and oil reserves ). Once the prices rise enough, then release it on the market.
China's gov appears to have plenty of money, but they have been going heavily into debt manufacturing new cities, while at same time, trying to destroy the western economy.
not just east, but south. In fact, it is the furthest south east. Still, china has a history in Asia of claiming anything of value. the CCP prefers indirect control, but will go after direct control if needed.
It will be interesting to see what China's gov does. These are very likely to be cheaper than what china can dig.
The reason is that ocean is now easier than getting into the ground, and the ores are richer in REMs than Chinas.
China will not be able to have their monopoly. I would not be surprised if China decides to declare that area to belong to them. It would be in keeping with their other aggressive actions.
No. The reason for going with emissions/$, is that neither you nor I decide the co2. Gov and businesses do. Look until tesla, how many EVs were there in.the world? None of consequences. Heck Prius started after Tesla started their r&D to build out EVs. GM built EV1 to appease California, but Exon killed it. Had it not been for Tesla, we would have no EVs.
Likewise, it has taken businesses and gov to push solar and wind. You and I did not create the market.
So, it comes down to decisions by businesses and gov, not ppl. The only way to push them is via emissions/GDP. They only care about the almighty buck. So, by normalizing on gdp and dropping emissions limit yearly, this forces all gov/businesses to change. As it is, China's emissions are disastrous and America's sux as well. In POF, most of Europe sux as well.
Europe's and America's are headed in.the right direction, but we need to get all nations on the same track. New coal plants need to be stopped, except to replace an old one. For example, china replacing an old one, with a new one that has full pollution controls AND will only burn the same amount of coal, or less, is great. But that is not what china is doing, and therein lies the problems.
Likewise, we need Germany , Poland, eastern Europe to join America in not building new coal plants. This is how we solve this.
Climate watch only goes to 2014 and then stops. I pointed out 2017, yet the data that you chose does not go to 2017.
Secondly, CAIT does not use GDP, but uses GDP(ppp). That is a totally different statistic.
That is no different than the games that you play with the American GDP. The fact is, that when you have nations like India and China that manipulate their money, then playing your games makes little to no sense. In fact, if you wanted to be even the least bit far on those games, you would pick only moneys that are NOT manipulated against the dollar, such as Canadian, Australian, and Euro would be the best 3.
The fact remains that in America, emissions dropped and GDP rose. OTOH, in China, Emissions rose a great deal, and their GDP rose as well.
And the PPP IS the least fair approach. Basically, that allows a nation to manipulate their money downwards to get more exports, and then have the calculations against the PPP on the emissions is just plain wrong. You want to use the exact same numbers that are used for trades, which is the $GDP.
If China cared, then why are they still building massive numbers of Coal plants? Not just in China, but all over the world?
Nope. These are just political games being played. Until we all stop building new coal plants AND we start carbon tax what we consume (that means imports as well), nothing will change. And it remains that emissions / $ GDP is the best way. We need to get ALL NATIONS down to the level of sweden. They are the ones to emulate, not nations like India and esp not CHina.
I really should not respond to you trolls, but your time is coming.
No the totals do matter.
CHina is dumping more than 2x what America does and has smaller GDP (i.e. produces far less goods while emitting many times more emissions ).
The fact that your nation does not care speaks volumes. In 2017, your emissions account for more than 1/3 of all emissions, AND your nation's emission rise was the most of any nation, and more than what the west dropped cumulative.
It is trolls like you that think that their nation is special and should be allowed to continue growing their emissions, while lying about everybody else.
OTOH, America continues to drop (no thanks to trump), though this year will be mild drop while next year should be a major drop.
China has NOT followed the rules of WTO. When America helped China join WTO, they had less than 90 tariffs. NOW, they are over 500. INSANE.
But America implementing tariffs makes us just as bad as China.
However, at times, it is needed since WTO has allowed CHina to keep pulling this BS.
And as to Yuan going up 10% over the last 9 months (which yuan was forced down over the last 5 years),
"https://tradingeconomics.com/china/inflation-cpi">
and that is because they are getting inflation.
They inflation is because they were dumping on the west, and then not wanting to buy western, esp. American, Debt. As such, they have no real choice.
The only one trolling is you, but you are paid to do so.
Per capita is a joke. Emissions per GDP is the only intelligent one, and china is one of the worst. However, it is you that are polluting the air with massive soot, which goes all the way to the arctic.
As to your carping about America importing from China, we are addressing that. America will be importing a lot less from china.
Seriously, it is long past time for WTO to do the right thing and tell China to quit cheating.
They continue to manipulate their money, subsidize and dump on the market.
And worst of all, China is now destroying 3rd world nations. Venezuela is a good example. And nation that China works with, comes at a very high costs in the future.
The problem is that china is NOT improving. Oh they report that they are and the paid trolls here claim it, but oco2 shows otherwise. In addition, china's particles, or spot, is actually ending up in the Arctic region, blacking the snow, so that it absorbs heat, as opposed to reflect it.
O, and now trump, stopped oco3 from going to the ISS, but, Congress funded it anyways. Once that is on, oco2/3 will show how much co2 really is increasing/decreasing in each nation. Huge
If they did they would be after ALL nations to clean up. Instead, we have idiots on here trolling claiming that either this is not happening, OR that China does not have to cut back their emissions OR that none of the rest of the 3rd world nations have to cut back.
And yet, the ONLY ones dropping are the majority of western nations.
Until we accept that ALL nations have to drop their emissions down to similar levels of Sweden and iceland, AND remove the soot out of their coal plants (IOW, if your skies are polluted, it means you are not removing the soot), AND must really push for AE, along with other baseload generators such as hydro, geo-thermal and/or nuclear.
To make it that intel world does NOT need a warrant unless data and stream are encrypted. By doing this, I have no doubt that most ppl will be concerned and encrypt everything.
Oddly, Russia, and china are grabbing everything that unencrypted, and few object.
Right.
America makes lots of mistakes, as does any large nation.
However, I would argue that gitmo is not a mistake, but a crime.
We either treat these ppl like soldiers or they should be civilians. There is no real 3rd group for this.
Hopefully, some day, Rumsfeld will make the mistake of going to Europe and grabbed and tried for war crimes.
It is one thing to go after terrorists in afghanistan and pakistan where the govs were/are hiding them, but to simply hold these ppl with no trials, as well as our invasion of Iraq, are out and out war crimes in my book.
And since terrorists hide amongst civilians, there will alway be side deaths. Sadly.
What is really being missed, is that GM had 1,000 cars done at 9 months. Tesla is over 10,000.
In addition, this line is going to scale rather rapidly after this, and should have same quality .
Seriously, the best thing that can happen is that ownership of ICE remain high, part of which is due to low mpg. EVs are much cheaper to drive, but with the exception of Tesla, EVs are more expensive to buy Vs comparable ice cars.
But as car makers produce more, prices are coming down. So high cost of ice ownership simply speeds EV ownership.
Finally, 1 group that no longer has their head up their ass.
Calling for net neutrality is a waste of time, effort, and money.
OTOH, for a lot less effort, real competition can destroy the executives that continue to harm America.
NSA is not the ones to blame. You can and should blame companies for no longer taking security serious. Boeing has had ages to update their computers, yet have done nothing. Likewise, even now, they are pouring money into places like Russia to make titanium, and vietnam, China, and India are doing software for Boeing ( India works closely with Russia on military projects ).
Boeing and other companies are to blame.
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Are the records public elsewhere? If he is public in legal system, then no. Google should not be forced to do this.
Did u miss the part where this is already done regularly?
they will likely try, but it should be easier/cheaper to mine than the ground based REMs. In addition, higher concentration.
But, assume that China gov subsidized and dumps (which is how they do things like Steel, aluminum, LEDs, solar, etc). All Japanese gov needs to do is continue mining with gov mining and setting it aside ( like US Helium and oil reserves ). Once the prices rise enough, then release it on the market.
China's gov appears to have plenty of money, but they have been going heavily into debt manufacturing new cities, while at same time, trying to destroy the western economy.
not just east, but south. In fact, it is the furthest south east. Still, china has a history in Asia of claiming anything of value. the CCP prefers indirect control, but will go after direct control if needed.
It will be interesting to see what China's gov does. These are very likely to be cheaper than what china can dig. The reason is that ocean is now easier than getting into the ground, and the ores are richer in REMs than Chinas.
China will not be able to have their monopoly. I would not be surprised if China decides to declare that area to belong to them. It would be in keeping with their other aggressive actions.
No. The reason for going with emissions/$, is that neither you nor I decide the co2. Gov and businesses do. Look until tesla, how many EVs were there in.the world? None of consequences. Heck Prius started after Tesla started their r&D to build out EVs. GM built EV1 to appease California, but Exon killed it. Had it not been for Tesla, we would have no EVs. Likewise, it has taken businesses and gov to push solar and wind. You and I did not create the market. So, it comes down to decisions by businesses and gov, not ppl. The only way to push them is via emissions /GDP. They only care about the almighty buck. So, by normalizing on gdp and dropping emissions limit yearly, this forces all gov/businesses to change. As it is, China's emissions are disastrous and America's sux as well. In POF, most of Europe sux as well.
Europe's and America's are headed in.the right direction, but we need to get all nations on the same track. New coal plants need to be stopped, except to replace an old one. For example, china replacing an old one, with a new one that has full pollution controls AND will only burn the same amount of coal, or less, is great. But that is not what china is doing, and therein lies the problems.
Likewise, we need Germany , Poland, eastern Europe to join America in not building new coal plants. This is how we solve this.
Climate watch only goes to 2014 and then stops. I pointed out 2017, yet the data that you chose does not go to 2017.
Secondly, CAIT does not use GDP, but uses GDP(ppp). That is a totally different statistic.
That is no different than the games that you play with the American GDP. The fact is, that when you have nations like India and China that manipulate their money, then playing your games makes little to no sense. In fact, if you wanted to be even the least bit far on those games, you would pick only moneys that are NOT manipulated against the dollar, such as Canadian, Australian, and Euro would be the best 3.
The fact remains that in America, emissions dropped and GDP rose. OTOH, in China, Emissions rose a great deal, and their GDP rose as well.
And the PPP IS the least fair approach. Basically, that allows a nation to manipulate their money downwards to get more exports, and then have the calculations against the PPP on the emissions is just plain wrong. You want to use the exact same numbers that are used for trades, which is the $GDP.
If China cared, then why are they still building massive numbers of Coal plants? Not just in China, but all over the world?
Nope. These are just political games being played. Until we all stop building new coal plants AND we start carbon tax what we consume (that means imports as well), nothing will change. And it remains that emissions / $ GDP is the best way. We need to get ALL NATIONS down to the level of sweden. They are the ones to emulate, not nations like India and esp not CHina.
I really should not respond to you trolls, but your time is coming.
No the totals do matter.
CHina is dumping more than 2x what America does and has smaller GDP (i.e. produces far less goods while emitting many times more emissions ).
The fact that your nation does not care speaks volumes. In 2017, your emissions account for more than 1/3 of all emissions, AND your nation's emission rise was the most of any nation, and more than what the west dropped cumulative.
It is trolls like you that think that their nation is special and should be allowed to continue growing their emissions, while lying about everybody else.
OTOH, America continues to drop (no thanks to trump), though this year will be mild drop while next year should be a major drop.
China has NOT followed the rules of WTO. When America helped China join WTO, they had less than 90 tariffs. NOW, they are over 500. INSANE.
But America implementing tariffs makes us just as bad as China.
However, at times, it is needed since WTO has allowed CHina to keep pulling this BS.
And as to Yuan going up 10% over the last 9 months (which yuan was forced down over the last 5 years), "https://tradingeconomics.com/china/inflation-cpi"> and that is because they are getting inflation. They inflation is because they were dumping on the west, and then not wanting to buy western, esp. American, Debt. As such, they have no real choice.
The only one trolling is you, but you are paid to do so.
Per capita is a joke. Emissions per GDP is the only intelligent one, and china is one of the worst. However, it is you that are polluting the air with massive soot, which goes all the way to the arctic. As to your carping about America importing from China, we are addressing that. America will be importing a lot less from china.
IOW, Apple is lying through their teeth.
Seriously, it is long past time for WTO to do the right thing and tell China to quit cheating. They continue to manipulate their money, subsidize and dump on the market. And worst of all, China is now destroying 3rd world nations. Venezuela is a good example. And nation that China works with, comes at a very high costs in the future.
Until we actually get ALL nations going on this esp CHina, it will not matter.
As can be seen, America and the west continue downwards, but at a glacial pace. The real issue is that China CHina, India, and the rest of the 3rd world nations, continues to grow their emissions. In 2017, they grew and that was based on numbers that CHinese gov reports. They refuse to allow anybody to directly measure. OTOH, OCO2 continues to show that EVERY year, China's emissions continue to rise, and not go down like that this showed. When OCO3 arrives next year, real values will be used, and not just relative values.
Regardless, unless we ALL stop with doing new coal plants, this can not be dropped.
The problem is that china is NOT improving. Oh they report that they are and the paid trolls here claim it, but oco2 shows otherwise. In addition, china's particles, or spot, is actually ending up in the Arctic region, blacking the snow, so that it absorbs heat, as opposed to reflect it. O, and now trump, stopped oco3 from going to the ISS, but, Congress funded it anyways. Once that is on, oco2/3 will show how much co2 really is increasing/decreasing in each nation. Huge
If they did they would be after ALL nations to clean up. Instead, we have idiots on here trolling claiming that either this is not happening, OR that China does not have to cut back their emissions OR that none of the rest of the 3rd world nations have to cut back.
And yet, the ONLY ones dropping are the majority of western nations.
Until we accept that ALL nations have to drop their emissions down to similar levels of Sweden and iceland, AND remove the soot out of their coal plants (IOW, if your skies are polluted, it means you are not removing the soot), AND must really push for AE, along with other baseload generators such as hydro, geo-thermal and/or nuclear.
To make it that intel world does NOT need a warrant unless data and stream are encrypted. By doing this, I have no doubt that most ppl will be concerned and encrypt everything. Oddly, Russia, and china are grabbing everything that unencrypted, and few object.
Right.
America makes lots of mistakes, as does any large nation.
However, I would argue that gitmo is not a mistake, but a crime.
We either treat these ppl like soldiers or they should be civilians. There is no real 3rd group for this.
Hopefully, some day, Rumsfeld will make the mistake of going to Europe and grabbed and tried for war crimes.
It is one thing to go after terrorists in afghanistan and pakistan where the govs were/are hiding them, but to simply hold these ppl with no trials, as well as our invasion of Iraq, are out and out war crimes in my book.
And since terrorists hide amongst civilians, there will alway be side deaths. Sadly.
I guess from your POV, the bombs from other nations do care? What is funny, is that America works it tail off to not hit civilians
All make a big deal against it, but all nations are doing it. Russia, America, and esp china , are pouring huge bucks into this.
Same thing were said of Toyota in 1969.
What is really being missed, is that GM had 1,000 cars done at 9 months. Tesla is over 10,000. In addition, this line is going to scale rather rapidly after this, and should have same quality .
Seriously, the best thing that can happen is that ownership of ICE remain high, part of which is due to low mpg. EVs are much cheaper to drive, but with the exception of Tesla, EVs are more expensive to buy Vs comparable ice cars. But as car makers produce more, prices are coming down. So high cost of ice ownership simply speeds EV ownership.
Finally, 1 group that no longer has their head up their ass.
Calling for net neutrality is a waste of time, effort, and money.
OTOH, for a lot less effort, real competition can destroy the executives that continue to harm America.
No, windows is not on the plane. In this case, it is manufacturing equipment that was hit.
NSA is not the ones to blame. You can and should blame companies for no longer taking security serious. Boeing has had ages to update their computers, yet have done nothing. Likewise, even now, they are pouring money into places like Russia to make titanium, and vietnam, China, and India are doing software for Boeing ( India works closely with Russia on military projects ). Boeing and other companies are to blame.