Because it is equally inconceivable that existence sprang forth ex nihilo without God.
How's that? Matter exists, what makes you think it was "created?" This is easy and rather logical to believe. If you lack the imagination or intelligence (or both) to grasp such a simple abstraction from our self-centered tendencies that's your failing. Kind of sad really.
Who ever claimed that the "big bang" created the universe? It's claimed that this was how the system of galaxy of galaxies that we see as the universe was formed, I have never heard anyone with a clue claim that this created the matter of the universe. This is like believing that the matter of cookie dough was created when it was mixed out of nothing instead of existing materials that were combined together.
You sound like a fucking idiot when you make such statements.
I believe the "universe" (meaning all of existence, not a galaxy of galaxies or anything like that) just exists. It neither needs nor wants a "creator."
You're right that for people who can't handle that the universe "just exists" there is a psychological need to make up some fantasy about how it all got "created." This however does not make it true and most certainly does not mean that "everyone" believes in such nonsense. Because you lack the imagination to conceive of such things does not mean that everyone else has a similar failing. I have no problem with the concept and it doesn't make me the least bit uncomfortable. I'm sure that I'm not the only one. I haven't the ego to be that deluded.
You seem to enjoy more making a fool of yourself. By your pathetic excuse for "logic" perhaps he just doesn't wish to shut you up and prefers for you to use that other make believe concept "free will" to do it yourself.
Get over it. You're wrong and no amount of bullshit is going to change that, ever.
The post I was responding to was putting forth the idea that religion makes people less likely to kill each other at large, this is patently untrue. Your reading comprehension seems poor though, too bad for you.
No, it isn't something to think about. The ONLY "historic text" describing jesus or his "miracles" is the bible. That a mountain of this dreck was written is neither here nor there. There is no historical evidence for any such person having lived, much less performed any "miracles."
This is the most ridiculous argument anyone has ever made. In no other area of human "thinking" (I'll use the term loosely here) would anyone seriously claim that something exists when there is no reason to even suspect that it might.
Believing in "god" makes less sense than believing that there is a 747 jumbo jet at the center of the Sun. At least in the case of the 747 those actually do exist.
But it hardly disproves the existance of God when there are so many other unanswered questions that aethists don't appear to have answers for....in my opinion that are conclusive.
Name one. Then name one piece of evidence that would even lead someone to think that there were anything remotely like a "god."
There is a huge amount of evidence that a jelly donut does in fact exist. There is not even enough evidence for any "god" to justify positing the question of whether or not such a thing exists.
I know you feel pretty smart for having come up with that little bit of unlogic, but let me assure you that you are wrong on both counts.
What makes you think that there is any "philosophical insight" to be had in whether or not something exists. In the complete absence of evidence for something it can and should be assumed not to exist.
Mods: The parent post is not insightful. It is moronic. Whether or not something exists is not a philosophical question and only a complete and total idiot would think that is.
Do you really think belief in fairy big beard or whatever makes people less likely to kill each other? Seems to me that it makes them more likely to band together with the people who believe the same bullshit as they do and kill those who don't. It's an incremental step of tribalism. Just look at all the "christian" car dealerships and computer stores and every other fucking thing.
The intelligent religious people will rightly say that it proves nothing- perhaps this is the API God uses to create those experiences.
There you go again! Why are you crazy people always making up imaginary creatures!
While this type of device is nothing new (why is it on/., did anyone read the article to see what's new here?), it proves everything that we already know. All of your thoughts and feelings are created by your brain. So perhaps this is news to you, since you've got it so fucking wrong in your head.
So useful you have to spend two days looking for drivers? You sound like you're running windows when you talk about having to "download drivers," geez.
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Because it is equally inconceivable that existence sprang forth ex nihilo without God.
How's that? Matter exists, what makes you think it was "created?" This is easy and rather logical to believe. If you lack the imagination or intelligence (or both) to grasp such a simple abstraction from our self-centered tendencies that's your failing. Kind of sad really.
Who ever claimed that the "big bang" created the universe? It's claimed that this was how the system of galaxy of galaxies that we see as the universe was formed, I have never heard anyone with a clue claim that this created the matter of the universe. This is like believing that the matter of cookie dough was created when it was mixed out of nothing instead of existing materials that were combined together.
You sound like a fucking idiot when you make such statements.
I believe the "universe" (meaning all of existence, not a galaxy of galaxies or anything like that) just exists. It neither needs nor wants a "creator."
You're right that for people who can't handle that the universe "just exists" there is a psychological need to make up some fantasy about how it all got "created." This however does not make it true and most certainly does not mean that "everyone" believes in such nonsense. Because you lack the imagination to conceive of such things does not mean that everyone else has a similar failing. I have no problem with the concept and it doesn't make me the least bit uncomfortable. I'm sure that I'm not the only one. I haven't the ego to be that deluded.
There is no proof of that. What kind of crazy shit are you smoking? I bet I could make a good deal of money selling that shit on the street.
You seem to enjoy more making a fool of yourself. By your pathetic excuse for "logic" perhaps he just doesn't wish to shut you up and prefers for you to use that other make believe concept "free will" to do it yourself.
Get over it. You're wrong and no amount of bullshit is going to change that, ever.
Not believing in something for which there is absolutely no evidence and never will be is not religious. It is common sense.
You are clearly less "sane" than you believe yourself to be. Don't worry, it's not like you're alone in that.
"There is *nothing* that can prove nor disprove the existance of God"
No, I didn't.
Re-read my post and then apologize for the bullshit you have attempted to put in my mouth.
The post I was responding to was putting forth the idea that religion makes people less likely to kill each other at large, this is patently untrue. Your reading comprehension seems poor though, too bad for you.
No, it isn't something to think about. The ONLY "historic text" describing jesus or his "miracles" is the bible. That a mountain of this dreck was written is neither here nor there. There is no historical evidence for any such person having lived, much less performed any "miracles."
You heard wrong. Sorry.
This is the most ridiculous argument anyone has ever made. In no other area of human "thinking" (I'll use the term loosely here) would anyone seriously claim that something exists when there is no reason to even suspect that it might.
Believing in "god" makes less sense than believing that there is a 747 jumbo jet at the center of the Sun. At least in the case of the 747 those actually do exist.
But it hardly disproves the existance of God when there are so many other unanswered questions that aethists don't appear to have answers for....in my opinion that are conclusive.
Name one. Then name one piece of evidence that would even lead someone to think that there were anything remotely like a "god."
Also, you need to learn how to spell "existence."
Wait, which religion says don't sleep with your sister? At least the three "abrahamic" religions claim that we're all descended from incest!
Also, drugs actually exist so at least you're addicted to something real.
There is a huge amount of evidence that a jelly donut does in fact exist. There is not even enough evidence for any "god" to justify positing the question of whether or not such a thing exists.
I know you feel pretty smart for having come up with that little bit of unlogic, but let me assure you that you are wrong on both counts.
WAKE UP! There is no such thing as a "spirit" and "spirituality" is a bunch of whoowhoo bullshit.
What makes you think that there is any "philosophical insight" to be had in whether or not something exists. In the complete absence of evidence for something it can and should be assumed not to exist.
Mods: The parent post is not insightful. It is moronic. Whether or not something exists is not a philosophical question and only a complete and total idiot would think that is.
Do you really think belief in fairy big beard or whatever makes people less likely to kill each other? Seems to me that it makes them more likely to band together with the people who believe the same bullshit as they do and kill those who don't. It's an incremental step of tribalism. Just look at all the "christian" car dealerships and computer stores and every other fucking thing.
We just don't like stupid people. So shut up with your religious crap so we can all go back to pretending such morons don't exist.
The intelligent religious people will rightly say that it proves nothing- perhaps this is the API God uses to create those experiences.
/., did anyone read the article to see what's new here?), it proves everything that we already know. All of your thoughts and feelings are created by your brain. So perhaps this is news to you, since you've got it so fucking wrong in your head.
There you go again! Why are you crazy people always making up imaginary creatures!
While this type of device is nothing new (why is it on
Why would anyone consider whether or not something exists when there is no evidence to suggest that there is such a thing in the first place?
Since Jesus was apparently not an historical figure why do people keep thinking about such silly questions?
So useful you have to spend two days looking for drivers? You sound like you're running windows when you talk about having to "download drivers," geez.