"And the need for branching is greatly reduced when you use continuous integration (except if you want to enjoy the 'benefits' of big-bang integration)"
Depends what you're doing, branching is very useful when you have several older versions of the product in maintenance (i.e. they get fixes) and an active dev version. You want to be able to apply fixes and supply new builds of the old version whilst saving new functionality for the dev version.
"Most of the time, it is overrated. There are other forms of getting redundancy."
but having source archives in multiple locations is a good way.
"The fact that it costs what it costs and doesn't support even that out of the box"
Well, as i said, find and findmerge will do that for you as well, but if you can't be bothered to write a one line loop on the command line you're a pretty poor developer, IMHO.
Meh. i don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you say, it allows me to work efficiently and our full time admin is supporting a few hundred folks around the globe, so I don't consider that too costly, personally.
I'm a software engineer. That is an insult. I'm not a CC admin but I have designed branching strategies for our products. It works great.
"As for checking in in seconds, I believe (as I discussed w/ other people) that this is the fault of Dynamic Views" You're doing something wrong. I use those and it works fine.
"And you see, you don't need to "replicate your code base globally" since they invented something called "the internet"
Ever heard of multi site redundancy? Also why would we use the internet when we have a globe spanning private network? And why would one need encrypted transfer when we have VPN?
It's still sounding like your admin is incompetent.
The priest is exercising free speech in public. The spammer is effectively breaking down the door to the house (anti-spam circumvention) and yelling in your ear. The two are not equivalent.
Spam passed from being a nuisance when it started costing people and businesses vast amounts of time, bandwidth and money.
Spammers are belligerent criminals who will continue to commit their crimes unless locked away.
In your example the person playing the music would have their stereo confiscated. If they were doing it delibeerately to keep the neighbours awake, continued rebuying stereos and hiding them around their house so that they could continue to annoy their neighbours (or the whole town) even after repeatedly being warned by police and having equipment confiscated then that is more like the spam problem. There would be cause to charge them with harassment. Perhaps there would be injunctions and jail time for breaking them, and it would be warranted, just as it is here.
We use clearcase to store and replicate our source archive globally. Its flexible branching strategies allow us to work effectively on multiple releases of our codebase, and checking files in takes a few seconds.
I don't know what this "History explorer" you're talking about is, but the graphical version representation makes it very easy to see which version you're currently looking at and which you want.
It sounds like both your admin and yourself are totally incompetent.
"The point in putting the people for violent crimes is (or at least should be) that they are danger to the society and it needs to be ensured that they be kept away."
Spammers are a danger to society. They prove that by continuing to spam people who have anti-spam measures in place, by working around protections, by carrying on doing what they're doing despite it being unwanted and illegal.
Locking them up is of direct good to everyone else - it stops them spamming and takes a belligerent criminal off the streets.
Spammers profit in proportion to how much they spam, as a rule. Therefore one that makes millions most likely has spammed a lot more than one that's only made a few bucks.
There is a difference between putting up a billboard with the permission of the property owner and what spammers do. They deliberately abuse other people's systems in order to force their message on people who are making it very clear (through countermeasures) that they don't want to hear it.
Oh, and your point on Squashing them in the US and them popping up elsewhere is disingenuous - Most spam is sent by and aimed at americans. Squashing them in the US would do a great deal of good.
"you can go on pretending that locking spammers in jail will rid the society of spam but it won't"
And you can apply that logic to assault, armed robbery, rape and murder.
the point is it punishes the offender and stops them from doing it. If the capture rate becomes a high enough percentage of people spamming then it becomes a true deterrant, even if not it stops that guy that has comitted those criminal acts from continuing to do so.
Spammers cause problems. Spammers seem to suffer no remorse over causing people annoyance, over costing people money for spam protection, bigger pipes, general hassle etc. Not to mention the stock scams, illegal pharmacies and everything else they're into.
Locking them up will stop them doing it and allow them time to think about what they've done. Remove spammers and you remove a big burden on society, how much do you think companies spend on anti-spam compared to how much it costs to put a spammer away?
Cool, will have to look those up, I have a weird interest in heavy machines. I thought z were about the largest (production, not specialty) machines going.
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Why is the parent modded informative? All it does is sling mud.
What better products do you have to offer than rational? Bonus points if it's something that comes with guarantees on reliability and support.
Who else makes a system as powerful and capable as z?
Extra credit - who designed the chips in all of the next gen consoles and is raking in the cash as a result?
I'm not any of those things you mention, but your rant is terribly shortsighted.
Umm, Tivoli Network monitoring and management is second to none. I mean that, none. They utterly dominate their market and for good reason.
pSeries are good systems. Z leaves everything else looking cheap, underpowered and lightweight. And I mean lightweight, the top z box weighs two tons...
iSeries I don't know much about, I'm not sure big blue are too huge on those any more either.
x are great x86 systems. Dunno if they're special, but they're not bad either.
Lotus, we can agree on. But rational? My god, what is your malfunction? Clearcase is a winning source control system, purify is a fantastic (and simple) debugging tool.
This isn't even to mention their myriad research labs.
I mean seriously, are you living under a rock? Big blue doesn't do everything right by a long stretch, but it has a hell of a lot going for it. If it doesn't deal with the small fry that's because it has more than enough big fry jumping for a bite at the bait.
I'm a coder, i find that it's fine in an open plan situation, headphones provide enough isolation and I guess it helps that coworkers try and respect each other's wishes - headphones on and a look of concentration means that I'm not up for a discussion on some obscure point of what someone else is doing. It's invaluable during design phases of projects though.
More of a joke than a serious thing, I'm just responding to the original poster's comments about open plan offices leading to people yakking all day about football and their kids and the american reputation for talking a lot.
It's not even a bad thing in a lot of situations - our cousins on the western side of the pond are generally a more friendly and approachable lot than us brits, especially when it comes to talking to strangers in bars, biut I'm thinking in an office environment that may backfire.
I work in a cubeless office, but with assigned desks. People have little book racks on their desks. we also have communal bookshelves (no issue with ownership because the company pays for them). Personally I don't bother because most of the useful info can be found with a quick googling now.
And paper is overrated, I have a log book for scribbling, which gets locked away at night, and otherwise work without paper.
There's "sociable" and then there's "talking so much, just for the sake of it, that you can't get anything else done. Sometimes, silence is appropriate.
I don't really like homeworking, guess I'm old fashioned, but coming into the office gets me in the mood for work, rather than mooching about and raiding the fridge every so often. And open plan isn't that distracting, to me.
I recommend either over-ear style headphones, or active noise cancelling ones. Both allow you to listen to music at low volume whilst blocking out outside noise.
As I've said in other comments - each to their own. We work in a large open floor, probably about 100m by 50, though the middle is lightwells and groups of meeting rooms so there's sound damping and you can't see fully across it. Works fine for us. the density is similar to the only cube farm I've worked in, we have L shaped desks arranged up against each other.
I don't do the whole laptop-only and no set desk thing though, that sounds bad to me.
I've worked in cubes, they kill communications and don't encourage work, IMHO. if you like yours then good for you, but my few months working in cubes gave me a very bad impression of them in terms of productivity and morale.
I prefer the open way of working. I'm sure not everyone does. Personally I don't feel the need to put things on the walls, have books (I'm an online-reference type of guy) or a fridge. But then I'm only here 37 hours a week.
Oh I'm not advocating the "no desk" part, or the hotdesk thing. I'm merely advocating open plan instead of cubes.
I have a nice big L shaped desk with my laptop on a stand (it's an email/IM client only), a 19 inch CRT attached to a sunblade workstation and a 17 inch TFT attached to the XP workstation.
If people (as americans are prone to do) are constantly shooting off their mouths about crap, perhaps they could do with a little British restraint. Maybe this is why cubicles are so big in the US - without them y'all have no idea when to shut the hell up.
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"And the need for branching is greatly reduced when you use continuous integration (except if you want to enjoy the 'benefits' of big-bang integration)"
Depends what you're doing, branching is very useful when you have several older versions of the product in maintenance (i.e. they get fixes) and an active dev version. You want to be able to apply fixes and supply new builds of the old version whilst saving new functionality for the dev version.
"Most of the time, it is overrated. There are other forms of getting redundancy."
but having source archives in multiple locations is a good way.
"The fact that it costs what it costs and doesn't support even that out of the box"
Well, as i said, find and findmerge will do that for you as well, but if you can't be bothered to write a one line loop on the command line you're a pretty poor developer, IMHO.
Meh. i don't think it's anywhere near as bad as you say, it allows me to work efficiently and our full time admin is supporting a few hundred folks around the globe, so I don't consider that too costly, personally.
"Marketing blurb"
I'm a software engineer. That is an insult. I'm not a CC admin but I have designed branching strategies for our products. It works great.
"As for checking in in seconds, I believe (as I discussed w/ other people) that this is the fault of Dynamic Views"
You're doing something wrong. I use those and it works fine.
"And you see, you don't need to "replicate your code base globally" since they invented something called "the internet"
Ever heard of multi site redundancy?
Also why would we use the internet when we have a globe spanning private network? And why would one need encrypted transfer when we have VPN?
It's still sounding like your admin is incompetent.
findmerge is very powerful.
Or a fscking shell script for god's sake!
for file in `cleartool lsco -cvi -avo -sho`; do cleartool ci -c "My comment here" $file;done
The priest is exercising free speech in public. The spammer is effectively breaking down the door to the house (anti-spam circumvention) and yelling in your ear. The two are not equivalent.
Spam passed from being a nuisance when it started costing people and businesses vast amounts of time, bandwidth and money.
Spammers are belligerent criminals who will continue to commit their crimes unless locked away.
In your example the person playing the music would have their stereo confiscated.
If they were doing it delibeerately to keep the neighbours awake, continued rebuying stereos and hiding them around their house so that they could continue to annoy their neighbours (or the whole town) even after repeatedly being warned by police and having equipment confiscated then that is more like the spam problem. There would be cause to charge them with harassment. Perhaps there would be injunctions and jail time for breaking them, and it would be warranted, just as it is here.
No, it's nothing to do with political leanings. Spammers profit is a direct reflection of how much they have been breaking the law.
You must just have had a useless admin.
We use clearcase to store and replicate our source archive globally. Its flexible branching strategies allow us to work effectively on multiple releases of our codebase, and checking files in takes a few seconds.
I don't know what this "History explorer" you're talking about is, but the graphical version representation makes it very easy to see which version you're currently looking at and which you want.
It sounds like both your admin and yourself are totally incompetent.
"The point in putting the people for violent crimes is (or at least should be) that they are danger to the society and it needs to be ensured that they be kept away."
Spammers are a danger to society. They prove that by continuing to spam people who have anti-spam measures in place, by working around protections, by carrying on doing what they're doing despite it being unwanted and illegal.
Locking them up is of direct good to everyone else - it stops them spamming and takes a belligerent criminal off the streets.
False analogy.
Spammers profit in proportion to how much they spam, as a rule. Therefore one that makes millions most likely has spammed a lot more than one that's only made a few bucks.
There is a difference between putting up a billboard with the permission of the property owner and what spammers do. They deliberately abuse other people's systems in order to force their message on people who are making it very clear (through countermeasures) that they don't want to hear it.
Oh, and your point on Squashing them in the US and them popping up elsewhere is disingenuous - Most spam is sent by and aimed at americans. Squashing them in the US would do a great deal of good.
"you can go on pretending that locking spammers in jail will rid the society of spam but it won't"
And you can apply that logic to assault, armed robbery, rape and murder.
the point is it punishes the offender and stops them from doing it. If the capture rate becomes a high enough percentage of people spamming then it becomes a true deterrant, even if not it stops that guy that has comitted those criminal acts from continuing to do so.
Spammers cause problems. Spammers seem to suffer no remorse over causing people annoyance, over costing people money for spam protection, bigger pipes, general hassle etc. Not to mention the stock scams, illegal pharmacies and everything else they're into.
Locking them up will stop them doing it and allow them time to think about what they've done. Remove spammers and you remove a big burden on society, how much do you think companies spend on anti-spam compared to how much it costs to put a spammer away?
Cool, will have to look those up, I have a weird interest in heavy machines. I thought z were about the largest (production, not specialty) machines going.
Why is the parent modded informative? All it does is sling mud.
What better products do you have to offer than rational?
Bonus points if it's something that comes with guarantees on reliability and support.
Who else makes a system as powerful and capable as z?
Extra credit - who designed the chips in all of the next gen consoles and is raking in the cash as a result?
I'm not any of those things you mention, but your rant is terribly shortsighted.
Umm, Tivoli Network monitoring and management is second to none. I mean that, none. They utterly dominate their market and for good reason.
pSeries are good systems.
Z leaves everything else looking cheap, underpowered and lightweight. And I mean lightweight, the top z box weighs two tons...
iSeries I don't know much about, I'm not sure big blue are too huge on those any more either.
x are great x86 systems. Dunno if they're special, but they're not bad either.
Lotus, we can agree on. But rational? My god, what is your malfunction? Clearcase is a winning source control system, purify is a fantastic (and simple) debugging tool.
This isn't even to mention their myriad research labs.
I mean seriously, are you living under a rock? Big blue doesn't do everything right by a long stretch, but it has a hell of a lot going for it. If it doesn't deal with the small fry that's because it has more than enough big fry jumping for a bite at the bait.
I'm a coder, i find that it's fine in an open plan situation, headphones provide enough isolation and I guess it helps that coworkers try and respect each other's wishes - headphones on and a look of concentration means that I'm not up for a discussion on some obscure point of what someone else is doing. It's invaluable during design phases of projects though.
More of a joke than a serious thing, I'm just responding to the original poster's comments about open plan offices leading to people yakking all day about football and their kids and the american reputation for talking a lot.
It's not even a bad thing in a lot of situations - our cousins on the western side of the pond are generally a more friendly and approachable lot than us brits, especially when it comes to talking to strangers in bars, biut I'm thinking in an office environment that may backfire.
I work in a cubeless office, but with assigned desks. People have little book racks on their desks. we also have communal bookshelves (no issue with ownership because the company pays for them). Personally I don't bother because most of the useful info can be found with a quick googling now.
And paper is overrated, I have a log book for scribbling, which gets locked away at night, and otherwise work without paper.
There's "sociable" and then there's "talking so much, just for the sake of it, that you can't get anything else done. Sometimes, silence is appropriate.
I don't really like homeworking, guess I'm old fashioned, but coming into the office gets me in the mood for work, rather than mooching about and raiding the fridge every so often. And open plan isn't that distracting, to me.
I recommend either over-ear style headphones, or active noise cancelling ones. Both allow you to listen to music at low volume whilst blocking out outside noise.
As I've said in other comments - each to their own. We work in a large open floor, probably about 100m by 50, though the middle is lightwells and groups of meeting rooms so there's sound damping and you can't see fully across it. Works fine for us. the density is similar to the only cube farm I've worked in, we have L shaped desks arranged up against each other.
I don't do the whole laptop-only and no set desk thing though, that sounds bad to me.
I've worked in cubes, they kill communications and don't encourage work, IMHO. if you like yours then good for you, but my few months working in cubes gave me a very bad impression of them in terms of productivity and morale.
I prefer the open way of working. I'm sure not everyone does. Personally I don't feel the need to put things on the walls, have books (I'm an online-reference type of guy) or a fridge. But then I'm only here 37 hours a week.
Oh I'm not advocating the "no desk" part, or the hotdesk thing. I'm merely advocating open plan instead of cubes.
I have a nice big L shaped desk with my laptop on a stand (it's an email/IM client only), a 19 inch CRT attached to a sunblade workstation and a 17 inch TFT attached to the XP workstation.
... Unlucky! I worked in a cube farm in the US for a few months and hated it. Maybe it just depends what you're used to.
If people (as americans are prone to do) are constantly shooting off their mouths about crap, perhaps they could do with a little British restraint. Maybe this is why cubicles are so big in the US - without them y'all have no idea when to shut the hell up.
SSH to your home server. Read /. using Lynx. Problem solved. Lynx looks like work :)