The problem with this is that the Highspeed Business model will Fail with this type of use... Bandwidth isn't free and infastructure maintence costs are high.. Do some research if you think you are so right...
For say 45$/month just say its a Async connection that can handle 2 megs... for you to have as much bandwidth as you want to use you would need to be alotted that full 2 megs 24/7 so that its allways available to you... now 155/MB connection would only handle 77.5 customers that want to use as much as they want... say just to keep numbers round.. you going to over sell it a wee bit... so you hook up 100 people to this 155 meg connection (and for the guys that know that 155 is a OC and there is all kinds of overhead you need to take into account.. lets just say it doesn't exsist to make life easy..) Now.. Just try to find a carrier that will sell you a 155 meg connection for 4,500 a month... Its simple you wont costs are much much higher than that..... If you do phone and find a company that will sell you for that price or less... ask if it also includes a local Loop and is dedicated and not over sold/bursting type (Shared higher capisty line ect) Its impossible... the cost of the equipment and infastruture is way to high the return on investment would be 7-10 years if not longer... Depends on how far it is to a CO where it can join a larger stream.. But still there is upstream infastrurture to pay for that costs Way more...
Your right as far as they have misleading advertising... unlimited (average consumption making alot of assumptions and a rather low estimate what people will use)... That is how the business model works.. and its damn handy to surf and do the things they have accounted for..
Actually It would reduce the strain on servers with fast connections like that... Unless Web Page Content Started to hit megs per page... Slow connections tie up bandwidth for extended periods of time.. The faster you can fulfill requests The less bandwidth is needed to meet demand.. (This only is noticeable of a larger scale.. )... The Internet would be way diffrent if everyone had even a True 10 meg full duplex connection... Mind ya DDOS attacks would be So Hairy and effective:)
I can see it now... when DRM get intagrated into hardware... The Midnight shifts at these plants start producing contraband hardware (DRM broken hardware so DRM is useless) to sell on the black market... Could Boost some economy's aswell that are really corrupt ect.. Could you imagine starting to import all of your CPU's from Columbia:) Not to mention this all comming full circle and start funding terrosists..
For Xp they really should have a Good password tutorial before it asks you for a password to lock your system down... Most people never think of mergeing two words together with every other letter... But why would MS do anything good for a customer:)
Well the Recording Indistry is dead convinced that all listeners are criminals.. Everyone that buys a burner is doing so for the sole purpose of copying music they don't own..
Times are changing technology is changing the face of business and has been for years... the Recording Industry Doesn't seem to be able to see this.. Instead of trying to fix thier business model that with technology has become drastically broken. They have thier current business model hooked up to every last bit of life support they can muster.
Most people are sick and tired of over priced CD's... ever notice how Tapes are cheaper than CD's still? CD's are alot cheaper to make.. with bulk discounts and new mega superstores opening up bring prices down you never see any of these costs offset the moeny that comes out of your pocket.. Not to mention that the CD format is way too bulky and rigid. Not to mention trying to find CD's of older good stuff is getting harder all the time..
They should be doing R&D on a new mediums that allow for consumer customization... Not restriction from technology.. CD's hold too little and are too damn big these days and way overpriced for thier entertainment value(for the most part...). They just need to hold a wake for thier old business model and let it die..
Look how the internet has changed the face of Telephone service... in the begining when Internet phone software was still trying to get going to replace longdistance.. They dropped thier rates to combat it.. they tried for a short period to combat this but instead modified thier buisness model and embraced the internet and are slowly moving away from a charge for longdistance model.
One that note also that portion would probably never buy a PVR because it doesn't have anything to do with "AOL's Internet":).. but really.. It will be exposing more people to the technology and they will remain to think the world is flat untill 1 person they know opens thier eyes to the aftermarket(I guess thats decent way to describe PVR's made by the private sector to fill customer demands rather than what customers want but don't take money out of our pockets) PVR's with all kinds of good functionality like skipping commericals and what not.
But you are right the largest portion of AOL users are those that use them just due to convience or people that just don't know any better.. But I imagine it will in the long run Boost aftermarket PVR's sales as there are people that run run towards the light when some one shows them where it is. But there will still be a large number of people that will still think the world is flat:)
More or less It sounds like a TiVo.. with all the stuff you want taken out of it and replaced with stuff that put more money in thier pokets. I can't imagine this will even start to put a dint in the PVR market.. instead it might Boost sales.. Give everyone a taste of how cool PVR's are and when they get sick of the subscription they will hunt out on thier own to buy a PVR with all the good stuff in it still.
Floppy disks are still floppy.. Its just the cases(caddies or what ever you wanna call em) are more durable and stronger:) and Yes I do remember when even that part of the disk was floppy.
Buck
I hate to agree.. But trying to explain High-tech science in any matter to laymen will just inflame even more the extrealy fickel Stock market... Our economy is too heavily based on the stock market... People Lose job just to bring in higher profit margins that benfit so few people just so positive speculation of a bussiness will bring a better Price on the stock market.. Look at the DOJ judgement against MS and what happen to the tech sector.. when any penalty set forth by the DOJ would have had extreamly minimal impact on Business as usual. Infact if the DOJ would have done a significant breakup of MS MS's stock should have fallen as it did as people re-invested in new startup's boosting the econmy by creating thousands and thousands of jobs (Not to mention bring some log needed diveristy of apps on the desktop).
Why Stream? Its a Very Ineffective use of bandwidth... The more bandwidth you tie up for extended Periods of time the more congested the network... Its alot better to Transmit at the fastest possible speed and buffer it on the consumer end.. Doing it this way you can Have a greater ammount of data available.
Alot of People are just centered on Fiber.. Its the best so I need it.... It Makes more Economical sence to Push fiber closer to the customer but not into homes at this point... Coax is capeable of Transmission Speeds in the Gig/s Ranges when using the entire Bandwidth.. In its current configurations Its only capable of meager upstream throughput as customer demand is mainly for information not to send information...
As for Phone lines they are starting really pushing limits allready... The are limited to distance from fiber unlike Coax is more limited for Subscribers Per "Unique" "Run"...
Coax does seem to be alot more logical to roll out for highbandwidth needs rather than twisted pair.. as Its Cascade Length and spacing between amplifiers for the ammount of bandwidth available. (For the most part)
But to bring fiber into the Home is way to costly yet... Transciveres for Light are cost prohibitive at this point... The fiber itself is quite cheap... Where your Copper Transcivers are almost free in comparison... The best bet for the near future is to roll fiber closer to the home and let copper carry it into the home...
After all Its allready there.. Its alot cheaper to impliment.. and has a Huge Capisty... but for upstream needs.. The current distribution for upstream needs to be opened up alot more... Most cable companies are using 60MZH and below for upstream and everyone above for downstream...
Once you start getting really small numbers of people on each unique run of cable then you can start more of a "On Demand" system for TV and what not and re-use un-needed bandwidth for data ect and Really Speed up connections..
Buck
This works to a Point... This is where persistant commections Bog down and kill high speed broadband networks.. Any time you fire up a P2P File Sharing and it pins your connection 24 hours a day 7 days a week (Usually on the upstream) this breaks the business model used for Highspeed networks such a DSL and CABLE ect, which is what alot of people on these types of networks don't understand and thats why upstream caps have been put in place.. But realisticaly if data pipes were opened up enhough and available to a large enough population and everyone was more open about sharing files and keeping them shared once downloaded This would help alot.
This is quite a vaild point... but also with distance comes dispersion. While the signal is directed at the client it will disperse as it covers distance. I'd be interested to see the math on how many users/AP it would take to crash a wireless network like this based on consistant data flows of a reasonable nature (I know there is virtually no need for consistant data flows realisticaly but for arguement sake it would be interesting look see)
Buck
This is a fact far too many people are Overlooking. There are alot of Advantages to using wireless mediums but when they are being utilized out of the proper Scope it becomes madness and can potentialy ruin that portion of the spectrum for everyone if it gets over utilized. Once you significantly increase the range/coverage the density required to over populate the spectrum is also decreased.
Buck
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The problem with this is that the Highspeed Business model will Fail with this type of use... Bandwidth isn't free and infastructure maintence costs are high.. Do some research if you think you are so right... For say 45$/month just say its a Async connection that can handle 2 megs... for you to have as much bandwidth as you want to use you would need to be alotted that full 2 megs 24/7 so that its allways available to you... now 155/MB connection would only handle 77.5 customers that want to use as much as they want... say just to keep numbers round.. you going to over sell it a wee bit... so you hook up 100 people to this 155 meg connection (and for the guys that know that 155 is a OC and there is all kinds of overhead you need to take into account.. lets just say it doesn't exsist to make life easy..) Now.. Just try to find a carrier that will sell you a 155 meg connection for 4,500 a month... Its simple you wont costs are much much higher than that..... If you do phone and find a company that will sell you for that price or less... ask if it also includes a local Loop and is dedicated and not over sold/bursting type (Shared higher capisty line ect) Its impossible... the cost of the equipment and infastruture is way to high the return on investment would be 7-10 years if not longer... Depends on how far it is to a CO where it can join a larger stream.. But still there is upstream infastrurture to pay for that costs Way more... Your right as far as they have misleading advertising... unlimited (average consumption making alot of assumptions and a rather low estimate what people will use)... That is how the business model works.. and its damn handy to surf and do the things they have accounted for..
Actually It would reduce the strain on servers with fast connections like that... Unless Web Page Content Started to hit megs per page... Slow connections tie up bandwidth for extended periods of time.. The faster you can fulfill requests The less bandwidth is needed to meet demand.. (This only is noticeable of a larger scale.. )... The Internet would be way diffrent if everyone had even a True 10 meg full duplex connection... Mind ya DDOS attacks would be So Hairy and effective :)
I can see it now... when DRM get intagrated into hardware... The Midnight shifts at these plants start producing contraband hardware (DRM broken hardware so DRM is useless) to sell on the black market... Could Boost some economy's aswell that are really corrupt ect.. Could you imagine starting to import all of your CPU's from Columbia :) Not to mention this all comming full circle and start funding terrosists..
For Xp they really should have a Good password tutorial before it asks you for a password to lock your system down... Most people never think of mergeing two words together with every other letter... But why would MS do anything good for a customer :)
Well the Recording Indistry is dead convinced that all listeners are criminals.. Everyone that buys a burner is doing so for the sole purpose of copying music they don't own.. Times are changing technology is changing the face of business and has been for years... the Recording Industry Doesn't seem to be able to see this.. Instead of trying to fix thier business model that with technology has become drastically broken. They have thier current business model hooked up to every last bit of life support they can muster. Most people are sick and tired of over priced CD's... ever notice how Tapes are cheaper than CD's still? CD's are alot cheaper to make.. with bulk discounts and new mega superstores opening up bring prices down you never see any of these costs offset the moeny that comes out of your pocket.. Not to mention that the CD format is way too bulky and rigid. Not to mention trying to find CD's of older good stuff is getting harder all the time.. They should be doing R&D on a new mediums that allow for consumer customization... Not restriction from technology.. CD's hold too little and are too damn big these days and way overpriced for thier entertainment value(for the most part...). They just need to hold a wake for thier old business model and let it die.. Look how the internet has changed the face of Telephone service... in the begining when Internet phone software was still trying to get going to replace longdistance.. They dropped thier rates to combat it.. they tried for a short period to combat this but instead modified thier buisness model and embraced the internet and are slowly moving away from a charge for longdistance model.
One that note also that portion would probably never buy a PVR because it doesn't have anything to do with "AOL's Internet" :).. but really.. It will be exposing more people to the technology and they will remain to think the world is flat untill 1 person they know opens thier eyes to the aftermarket(I guess thats decent way to describe PVR's made by the private sector to fill customer demands rather than what customers want but don't take money out of our pockets) PVR's with all kinds of good functionality like skipping commericals and what not.
But you are right the largest portion of AOL users are those that use them just due to convience or people that just don't know any better.. But I imagine it will in the long run Boost aftermarket PVR's sales as there are people that run run towards the light when some one shows them where it is. But there will still be a large number of people that will still think the world is flat :)
More or less It sounds like a TiVo.. with all the stuff you want taken out of it and replaced with stuff that put more money in thier pokets. I can't imagine this will even start to put a dint in the PVR market.. instead it might Boost sales.. Give everyone a taste of how cool PVR's are and when they get sick of the subscription they will hunt out on thier own to buy a PVR with all the good stuff in it still.
Floppy disks are still floppy.. Its just the cases(caddies or what ever you wanna call em) are more durable and stronger :) and Yes I do remember when even that part of the disk was floppy.
Buck
I hate to agree.. But trying to explain High-tech science in any matter to laymen will just inflame even more the extrealy fickel Stock market... Our economy is too heavily based on the stock market... People Lose job just to bring in higher profit margins that benfit so few people just so positive speculation of a bussiness will bring a better Price on the stock market.. Look at the DOJ judgement against MS and what happen to the tech sector.. when any penalty set forth by the DOJ would have had extreamly minimal impact on Business as usual. Infact if the DOJ would have done a significant breakup of MS MS's stock should have fallen as it did as people re-invested in new startup's boosting the econmy by creating thousands and thousands of jobs (Not to mention bring some log needed diveristy of apps on the desktop).
Why Stream? Its a Very Ineffective use of bandwidth... The more bandwidth you tie up for extended Periods of time the more congested the network... Its alot better to Transmit at the fastest possible speed and buffer it on the consumer end.. Doing it this way you can Have a greater ammount of data available.
Alot of People are just centered on Fiber.. Its the best so I need it.... It Makes more Economical sence to Push fiber closer to the customer but not into homes at this point... Coax is capeable of Transmission Speeds in the Gig/s Ranges when using the entire Bandwidth.. In its current configurations Its only capable of meager upstream throughput as customer demand is mainly for information not to send information... As for Phone lines they are starting really pushing limits allready... The are limited to distance from fiber unlike Coax is more limited for Subscribers Per "Unique" "Run"... Coax does seem to be alot more logical to roll out for highbandwidth needs rather than twisted pair.. as Its Cascade Length and spacing between amplifiers for the ammount of bandwidth available. (For the most part) But to bring fiber into the Home is way to costly yet... Transciveres for Light are cost prohibitive at this point... The fiber itself is quite cheap... Where your Copper Transcivers are almost free in comparison... The best bet for the near future is to roll fiber closer to the home and let copper carry it into the home... After all Its allready there.. Its alot cheaper to impliment.. and has a Huge Capisty... but for upstream needs.. The current distribution for upstream needs to be opened up alot more... Most cable companies are using 60MZH and below for upstream and everyone above for downstream... Once you start getting really small numbers of people on each unique run of cable then you can start more of a "On Demand" system for TV and what not and re-use un-needed bandwidth for data ect and Really Speed up connections.. Buck
This works to a Point... This is where persistant commections Bog down and kill high speed broadband networks.. Any time you fire up a P2P File Sharing and it pins your connection 24 hours a day 7 days a week (Usually on the upstream) this breaks the business model used for Highspeed networks such a DSL and CABLE ect, which is what alot of people on these types of networks don't understand and thats why upstream caps have been put in place.. But realisticaly if data pipes were opened up enhough and available to a large enough population and everyone was more open about sharing files and keeping them shared once downloaded This would help alot.
This is quite a vaild point... but also with distance comes dispersion. While the signal is directed at the client it will disperse as it covers distance. I'd be interested to see the math on how many users/AP it would take to crash a wireless network like this based on consistant data flows of a reasonable nature (I know there is virtually no need for consistant data flows realisticaly but for arguement sake it would be interesting look see) Buck
This is a fact far too many people are Overlooking. There are alot of Advantages to using wireless mediums but when they are being utilized out of the proper Scope it becomes madness and can potentialy ruin that portion of the spectrum for everyone if it gets over utilized. Once you significantly increase the range/coverage the density required to over populate the spectrum is also decreased. Buck