Its not only the money. Its a trade-off between quality and money. When you pay for something you also consider the quality you get for the money you spend. Ultimately whats helps you make the decision is the cost/quality tradeoff. If telecommuting can help improve quality of work at a reduced cost(surely not as low as outsourced work), would it be a good tradeoff?
Someone suggested that companies 'outsource' (or 'insource' if you may) to a company within US which in turn employs workers who telecommute thus saving costs. Indeed such a model does seem feasible to implement. We alredy have projects in the OpenSource community which (may) involve developers from all over the world and the resulting code is of a very high quality.
It would be interesting to know if someone has conducted or would be willing to conduct a feasibility study for this. I think the starting point for such a feasibility study would be conducting surveys with companies that currently outsource work and gather information on how much would they be willing to pay for work that was done by companies employing telecommuting workers within the US.
Now, now... why not begin by placing the responsibility for the problems on the 'deserving' shoulders.
So the NatWest (or USBank) system didn't allow non MS systems to access their web site? Well, that's the problems of whoever developed the system in the first place. How can you blame MS for someone (Natwest or USBank or whoeever) using MS technology so that it 'harmed' their users when (hold your breath) the institution (Natwest or USBank or whoeever) had the choice to do it using some other version of Java? I think the whole debate is getting ridiculous to the point that if anything goes wrong with the world, you conveniently blame it on MS.
The point is Sun doesn't seem to have enuf good programmers (or enuf money to hire good programmers) to write a JVM for Windows and wants MS to do it for them for free so that it can write off MS. That would require MS to have severe lack of common sense and extreme self destructive tendencies. ...but is the Judge listening?
BTW, the rate at which MS keeps losing these ridiculous lawsuits makes one wonder whether MS pays their lawyers enuf.
Here's the story so far:
Sometime ago Sun had a great idea to reduce MS dominance (or so they thought) by introducing java. MS saw thru it and acted to protect their interest. Sun didnt' like it and so what better than to file a lawsuit (cry and cry till you succeed).
Nothing wrong with it so far until enters some #$#@ judge who probably forgets that he is a judge in a lawsuit and pretends more like a superhero out to save the world from the evil influence(sic) of... 'no java'. duh.
If Sun is so keen on getting Java to work on Windows, why don't they employ some programmers to do that instead of getting it done from MS programmers? It is that they don't have enuf good programmers in Sun or is it that those that are there are not good enuf? I had heard that Sun was not doing too well (outside the court, in the 'software business'). But this I had never imagined.
you are aware of the anti-competitive practices of Microsoft where they effectively banned vendors from offering other operating systems?
Oh...? So what were the 'other' operating systems makers doing? Sitting about waiting for someone to pick up their stuff? To sell something you have to do some hard work selling it. If you didn't reaslize it yet, marketing is also an industry. Get the point?
...that loves that other companies write software for their operating system and thus ensure its continued use. Something wrong with that? I think something would be terribly wrong with you if you wanted other companies not to write software for your operating system. Why have it in the first place if you don't really want anyone to use it?
IMO, the bottomline is this: MS intentions may be to not allow Java to dominate. Nothing seems to be wrong with that. If Sun is really keen on making Java work, then why not do some work getting it running on windows rather than ask MS programmers to do it for them. Dont they have enough capable programmers at Sun? (I had heard Sun was not doing well, but this i never imagined!).
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Its not only the money. Its a trade-off between quality and money. When you pay for something you also consider the quality you get for the money you spend. Ultimately whats helps you make the decision is the cost/quality tradeoff. If telecommuting can help improve quality of work at a reduced cost(surely not as low as outsourced work), would it be a good tradeoff?
Someone suggested that companies 'outsource' (or 'insource' if you may) to a company within US which in turn employs workers who telecommute thus saving costs. Indeed such a model does seem feasible to implement. We alredy have projects in the OpenSource community which (may) involve developers from all over the world and the resulting code is of a very high quality.
It would be interesting to know if someone has conducted or would be willing to conduct a feasibility study for this. I think the starting point for such a feasibility study would be conducting surveys with companies that currently outsource work and gather information on how much would they be willing to pay for work that was done by companies employing telecommuting workers within the US.
Seems worth a serious thought...
Now, now... why not begin by placing the responsibility for the problems on the 'deserving' shoulders.
So the NatWest (or USBank) system didn't allow non MS systems to access their web site? Well, that's the problems of whoever developed the system in the first place. How can you blame MS for someone (Natwest or USBank or whoeever) using MS technology so that it 'harmed' their users when (hold your breath) the institution (Natwest or USBank or whoeever) had the choice to do it using some other version of Java? I think the whole debate is getting ridiculous to the point that if anything goes wrong with the world, you conveniently blame it on MS.
Open your mind. Think.
The point is Sun doesn't seem to have enuf good programmers (or enuf money to hire good programmers) to write a JVM for Windows and wants MS to do it for them for free so that it can write off MS. That would require MS to have severe lack of common sense and extreme self destructive tendencies.
...but is the Judge listening?
BTW, the rate at which MS keeps losing these ridiculous lawsuits makes one wonder whether MS pays their lawyers enuf.
Here's the story so far:
... 'no java'. duh.
Sometime ago Sun had a great idea to reduce MS dominance (or so they thought) by introducing java. MS saw thru it and acted to protect their interest. Sun didnt' like it and so what better than to file a lawsuit (cry and cry till you succeed).
Nothing wrong with it so far until enters some #$#@ judge who probably forgets that he is a judge in a lawsuit and pretends more like a superhero out to save the world from the evil influence(sic) of
If Sun is so keen on getting Java to work on Windows, why don't they employ some programmers to do that instead of getting it done from MS programmers? It is that they don't have enuf good programmers in Sun or is it that those that are there are not good enuf? I had heard that Sun was not doing too well (outside the court, in the 'software business'). But this I had never imagined.
you are aware of the anti-competitive practices of Microsoft where they effectively banned vendors from offering other operating systems?
...that loves that other companies write software for their operating system and thus ensure its continued use.
Oh...? So what were the 'other' operating systems makers doing? Sitting about waiting for someone to pick up their stuff? To sell something you have to do some hard work selling it. If you didn't reaslize it yet, marketing is also an industry. Get the point?
Something wrong with that? I think something would be terribly wrong with you if you wanted other companies not to write software for your operating system. Why have it in the first place if you don't really want anyone to use it?
IMO, the bottomline is this: MS intentions may be to not allow Java to dominate. Nothing seems to be wrong with that. If Sun is really keen on making Java work, then why not do some work getting it running on windows rather than ask MS programmers to do it for them. Dont they have enough capable programmers at Sun? (I had heard Sun was not doing well, but this i never imagined!).