CentOS minimal install (choice picked from menu at install) takes about 0.68 GB and includes apache, nfs server, ssh server, selinux, python and iptables. Pretty much good to go. Yum install perl, mysql and php would add very little to the footprint and only takes a few seconds.
For years and years I drank that same general brand of kool-aid. I'm not doing it any more. Yes, there are logistical and own-forces security problems involved in withdrawal, but no, we're not withdrawing with all deliberate expedition. As for not handing the place over to the Taliban, that's been settled for quite a while now. We don't have the strength and the commitment to dictate who ends up with it. It is certainly going to end up with the Taliban, or with forces very much like the Taliban. Whether that happens in one week or 1-2 years doesn't make a lick of difference, but losing more US forces lives in a self-admitted lost cause sure as HELL makes a difference to ME.
Yeah, IMHO it's brain dead language design if a script expecting python 2.6 doesn't continue to work fine with python 2.7, which is only a point upgrade.
It's nothing you can't easily work around, though. You can leave the original python installed, and install a new version in another location. So I'm not overly exercised by what I perceive to be silly language design decisions.
It's CERTAINLY not Redhat's fault, because python 2.6 is a mandatory package whose removal and replacement with some third party package or build-from-source is not supported.
as a quick sampling test, try upgrading python on a standard RHEL box. you'll totally screw the effing package system. this is simply not serious.
Duh. Yum uses python (it's 2.6 in the latest RHEL 6, BTW; not 2.7). It's got to use SOMETHING. If an upgrade to python changes old behavior, why is that not brain-dead language design? Not anything wrong with yum.
Here's a hint, though. It's linux. You can do almost anything. Just download the source tarball, extract it,./configure --prefix=/opt/mypython, make, sudo make install. All system scripts that use #!/usr/bin/python will continue to use the original, still-installed python, and you can use #!/opt/mypython/bin/python in your own scripts to use the spiffy version you want.
You can do this even if you have one of the many sites that still use RHEL 5 (python 2.4).
Happy to see another bugfix release for 2.7. Like it or not, 2.7 is going to remain the main or only version of Python for years to come at many installations.
Python 2.7! Python 2.7? Users of all those RHEL 6 installations out there only WISH. They have Python 2.6, and they were damn glad to get that, too, since they were saddled with 2.4 for all those dreary RHEL 5 years.
And we have already given up in Afghanistan. We're not really at war there either. We don't know what we are doing there, but it's certainly not a war.
Still has issues! Still has issues? Master of the understatement. GNOME 3 is garbage to the core, hatched from diseased minds. Other than that, it's fine.
8000rpm x 60 x 24 x 365 x 16 x (5.25/2/2)*pi x 12 x 5280
Check me. Should be 3600rpm x 60 x 24 x 365.25 x 16 x (5.25/2/2)*pi / 12 / 5280 = 1.97 million miles.
Actually the heads don't "travel" at all except back and forth with every seek, but that's the average linear distance that the disc directly under the head traveled.
Wow, did I hit a nerve or what? Look, I'm a reformed original enthusiast for the so-called war on terror. The enthusiasm lasted a few months and then changed into a feeling of what eventually became disgust. Let's just say it quickly became evident what a fraud and colossal pit it was. Anyway, I wasn't trying to draw a moral comparison; I was noting an eery parallel.
Let's look at some of those adjectives and nouns and whether they apply to the US.
Prison state. Let's look at the incarceration rates: US: 716 per 100,000. #1 in the list. That's right, almost one out of every thousand people in the US is locked up. Cuba: 510 Russia: 502 Iran: 333 UK: 151-154 Venezuela: 149 China: 121-170 Iraq: 115 Germany: 83 India: 30
North Korea's rate is not tabulated, but Amnesty International estimates a figure of 813 "political prisoners" specifically, which is a little higher than the total rate for the US. But it's not a statistical neighborhood the US should feel comfortable being in.
I can't speak for Jedediah, but I have seven applets on my top toolbar, and I use every one of them constantly, and Gnome 3 doesn't have a viable replacement for ANY of them, except POSSIBLY the clock. Not in all the vaunted extensions.
I will also do what Jedediah didn't do. I hereby call Gnome 3 a half baked irrational tablet UI which is lousy through and through for desktop use.
So OK, we have different tastes. Big deal. Gnome 3 has allegedly improved your computing pleasure and efficiency, and harmed mine. I'm pretty sure I'm in a large majority, considering all the accumulated opinion published on the web, but I'm not going to try to prove it. Let the public reception speak for itself.
It is at once sad and amusing that you could replace "North Korea" in your sentence with "the USA", and "their friends the Chinese" with "European and other states with a history of friendliness toward the US" - the statement still has an eery ring of arguable appropriateness.
Oh, pardon us. You have defined away on a technicality the state of shooting war which existed between NK and US in 1950-53. I'm sure all the dead will be interested to learn that they did not die in a war between two organized national military forces involving heavy artillery, tanks, strategic bombing, tactical air, air-to-air fighting, and pitched infantry battles.
The US military has been involved in a minimum of five true wars since WW2: Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, the Iraqi War, and the Afghan War. That's not counting small actions such as Grenada and borderline operations such as Panama.
The idea that none of these were wars because Congress didn't issue a written formal declaration of war seems to me a pointless academic exercise.
FreeBSD supports far more hardware platforms than most or any linux distros. I have never had any problem whatsoever with FreeBSD on any PC hardware I tried. What specific hardware have you had a problem with? How long ago was it?
DragonflyBSD is a good solid project, but could you name the aspects in which it is superior to FreeBSD? DragonflyBSD has hammerfs; FreeBSD has ZFS. That's a draw at best. There are some relatively minor improved features which would be nice to port back maybe.
You don't have to fork BSD-licensed code. That's the point. Just take the code and use it. Make any changes you want. You don't have to give them anything or tell them anything.
Probably about 1/1000 as strong as it would have to be to withstand atmospheric pressure. That's *IF* you could remove all the encapsulated air, which of course you couldn't.
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We'll never know because the system worked as designed and that mod got swamped out.
Err, it says it has TWO SFF-8088s.
CentOS minimal install (choice picked from menu at install) takes about 0.68 GB and includes apache, nfs server, ssh server, selinux, python and iptables. Pretty much good to go. Yum install perl, mysql and php would add very little to the footprint and only takes a few seconds.
For years and years I drank that same general brand of kool-aid. I'm not doing it any more. Yes, there are logistical and own-forces security problems involved in withdrawal, but no, we're not withdrawing with all deliberate expedition. As for not handing the place over to the Taliban, that's been settled for quite a while now. We don't have the strength and the commitment to dictate who ends up with it. It is certainly going to end up with the Taliban, or with forces very much like the Taliban. Whether that happens in one week or 1-2 years doesn't make a lick of difference, but losing more US forces lives in a self-admitted lost cause sure as HELL makes a difference to ME.
Yeah, IMHO it's brain dead language design if a script expecting python 2.6 doesn't continue to work fine with python 2.7, which is only a point upgrade.
It's nothing you can't easily work around, though. You can leave the original python installed, and install a new version in another location. So I'm not overly exercised by what I perceive to be silly language design decisions.
It's CERTAINLY not Redhat's fault, because python 2.6 is a mandatory package whose removal and replacement with some third party package or build-from-source is not supported.
Duh. Yum uses python (it's 2.6 in the latest RHEL 6, BTW; not 2.7). It's got to use SOMETHING. If an upgrade to python changes old behavior, why is that not brain-dead language design? Not anything wrong with yum.
Here's a hint, though. It's linux. You can do almost anything. Just download the source tarball, extract it, ./configure --prefix=/opt/mypython, make, sudo make install. All system scripts that use #!/usr/bin/python will continue to use the original, still-installed python, and you can use #!/opt/mypython/bin/python in your own scripts to use the spiffy version you want.
You can do this even if you have one of the many sites that still use RHEL 5 (python 2.4).
Python 2.7! Python 2.7? Users of all those RHEL 6 installations out there only WISH. They have Python 2.6, and they were damn glad to get that, too, since they were saddled with 2.4 for all those dreary RHEL 5 years.
And we have already given up in Afghanistan. We're not really at war there either. We don't know what we are doing there, but it's certainly not a war.
A. Very painfully
Bingo.
Still has issues! Still has issues? Master of the understatement. GNOME 3 is garbage to the core, hatched from diseased minds. Other than that, it's fine.
You said it, brothers.
Check me. Should be 3600rpm x 60 x 24 x 365.25 x 16 x (5.25/2/2)*pi / 12 / 5280 = 1.97 million miles.
Actually the heads don't "travel" at all except back and forth with every seek, but that's the average linear distance that the disc directly under the head traveled.
Kids nowadays. No sense of adventure and wonder. Best use of 10,000 kWh ever.
Wow, did I hit a nerve or what? Look, I'm a reformed original enthusiast for the so-called war on terror. The enthusiasm lasted a few months and then changed into a feeling of what eventually became disgust. Let's just say it quickly became evident what a fraud and colossal pit it was. Anyway, I wasn't trying to draw a moral comparison; I was noting an eery parallel.
Let's look at some of those adjectives and nouns and whether they apply to the US.
Sick. Check.
Bellicose. Check.
Belligerent. Check.
Pariah. Pretty much.
Prison state. Let's look at the incarceration rates:
US: 716 per 100,000. #1 in the list. That's right, almost one out of every thousand people in the US is locked up.
Cuba: 510
Russia: 502
Iran: 333
UK: 151-154
Venezuela: 149
China: 121-170
Iraq: 115
Germany: 83
India: 30
North Korea's rate is not tabulated, but Amnesty International estimates a figure of 813 "political prisoners" specifically, which is a little higher than the total rate for the US. But it's not a statistical neighborhood the US should feel comfortable being in.
I can't speak for Jedediah, but I have seven applets on my top toolbar, and I use every one of them constantly, and Gnome 3 doesn't have a viable replacement for ANY of them, except POSSIBLY the clock. Not in all the vaunted extensions.
I will also do what Jedediah didn't do. I hereby call Gnome 3 a half baked irrational tablet UI which is lousy through and through for desktop use.
So OK, we have different tastes. Big deal. Gnome 3 has allegedly improved your computing pleasure and efficiency, and harmed mine. I'm pretty sure I'm in a large majority, considering all the accumulated opinion published on the web, but I'm not going to try to prove it. Let the public reception speak for itself.
There you have it. The ULTIMATE illustration of the bizarre, fringe mentality behind Gnome 3. In a nutshell.
Nutters. Absolute nutters.
It is at once sad and amusing that you could replace "North Korea" in your sentence with "the USA", and "their friends the Chinese" with "European and other states with a history of friendliness toward the US" - the statement still has an eery ring of arguable appropriateness.
Oh, pardon us. You have defined away on a technicality the state of shooting war which existed between NK and US in 1950-53. I'm sure all the dead will be interested to learn that they did not die in a war between two organized national military forces involving heavy artillery, tanks, strategic bombing, tactical air, air-to-air fighting, and pitched infantry battles.
The US military has been involved in a minimum of five true wars since WW2: Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, the Iraqi War, and the Afghan War. That's not counting small actions such as Grenada and borderline operations such as Panama.
The idea that none of these were wars because Congress didn't issue a written formal declaration of war seems to me a pointless academic exercise.
FreeBSD supports far more hardware platforms than most or any linux distros. I have never had any problem whatsoever with FreeBSD on any PC hardware I tried. What specific hardware have you had a problem with? How long ago was it?
DragonflyBSD is a good solid project, but could you name the aspects in which it is superior to FreeBSD? DragonflyBSD has hammerfs; FreeBSD has ZFS. That's a draw at best. There are some relatively minor improved features which would be nice to port back maybe.
You don't have to fork BSD-licensed code. That's the point. Just take the code and use it. Make any changes you want. You don't have to give them anything or tell them anything.
Nice. But how do I get it into orbit?
I'm sure all the operators who fly airships daily would be interested to hear why you think it's impractical to do what they are doing.
Probably about 1/1000 as strong as it would have to be to withstand atmospheric pressure. That's *IF* you could remove all the encapsulated air, which of course you couldn't.