Unless you take some pleasure in punishing a person there is no retribution to be had from imprisoning.
Retribution is a school of thought that "the punishment should fit the crime". Supporters of this justification for sentences often quote "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."
The criminal sentence used for retribution is to have the criminal pay for damages.
No, that's just another form of punishment. Equivalent to a fine in terms of retribution and deterrence, but having the additional rehabilitational element of making the offender appreciate the financial cost of the crime to society or the victim.
The reason the right wants longer prison sentences is more related to deterrence and containment. (Keep them off the streets.)
Containment is part of deterrence. And no, it's not just that. Retribution is very big amongst those on the right. In part because of that biblical justification. In part because talking tough is part of a right winger's identity. The same reason they tend to be willing to go to war without sufficient justification.
There are two potentially conflicting routes to take here.
a) Do whatever the person that pays the wages says. b) Do what your professionalism demands.
I don't know about you, but I'm not a puppet, nor a prostitute. I don't simply do whatever I'm even if it's the person paying the wages. I'm employed to be a professional. If they don't like it I'll take my talents elsewhere.
Had the soldiers in Vietnam had the full support of congress and the president and the troop deployments they'd asked for... You wouldn't be saying that.
To be fair a lot of those Prius drivers were early adopters - before pure EVs were generally available. The Prius had been on sale for 13 years before the Leaf came along.
No doubt many of those Prius owners will be looking towards pure EVs for their next vehicle, when the time comes to replace.
I see the problem of islamic gang(s) that was highlighted at HMP Long Lartin.
The parallels are not only to right-wing white gangs in US jails, but to black and hispanic gangs there. If there's enough inmates feeling that they have a common kinship, then they are quite likely to form a gang, and of course bully those who are not in the gang into conformity with the gangs norms.
The problem there seems to be that the Muslim population has reached 25% in that particular prison, presumably many drawn from the islamic fundamentalists groups.
But I don't see any reference to printed material having any bearing on this. Do you have a citation for that?
Criminal sentences have 3 objectives. Rehabilitation, retribution and deterrence.
Both left and right agree on the importance of deterrence. But the right tend to believe that retribution is the second most important function. Whilst the left believe rehabilitation is.
As you see, they are all about the restriction of privileges. The ministers comment about searching parcels for drugs is just a red herring. A lie. You should have been able to tell - his lips moved.
The problem that has been highlighted is that reading should not be considered to be a privilege, but part of rehabilitation.
Real developers ship. You are working for a business; you are not doing an academic study.
It's not as simple as that. Managers tend to be concerned with short term results, such as shipping the next version. But skimping on doing it properly may make future versions harder to ship.
True. But bear in mind that one shouldn't optimise early. So if one took the idea that state is bad, one could always compute the result rather than cache for the initial implementation. Then only cache where profiling indicates there's an issue.
The GPS code I've seen was horrible and I worked for one of the major GPS players for several years. Originally written in FORTRAN and later automatically converted to C.
Interesting. I can see that FORTRAN was once the computer language for mathematics, but it never occurred to me that GPS was old enough to be coded in it. But I see that GPS development started in 1973, and even then was based on some earlier work, so definitely during the time when FORTRAN was in common use.
Can't say I'm surprised that it tends to get ported rather than re-implemented. With something that's as complicated as that, with an implementation that has stood the test of time, better to stick with something that's not easily understandable than to have a new readable version with a whole new set of bugs.
It's not elegant because it's a dirty optimisation taking advantage of two inadequacies of C: The horrendous fall through behaviour of switch statements, and the lack of a requirement for proper nesting of control blocks.
The original code is far more elegant than DD.
Put it another way, the only reason for using DD rather than the original is that it was quicker on non-optimising compilers. Not that it was graceful, nor stylish, nor simple.
The fact that it's slower than the original code now makes it even less of a qualifier. It's now an optimisation failure. Something that needs to be removed to optimise.
While it is tragic, I agree. Many low-paid jobs are low-paid because many people that do them do not care about the quality of their work.
What utter bullshit. A job category isn't assessed for the average level of quality of work, and then cross industry pay rates set accordingly.
Nor in most classes of work is individual pay varied much according to performance. There may be scales according to years served, and small differences according to appraisals. But for example, a waiter will earn about the same, regardless. For sure in the professions, such as programming, performance can effect pay much more. But most jobs aren't professions. And your post was about "low-paid jobs".
Pay rates are simply set by supply and demand of qualified and willing workers. There are plenty of people that are willing and able to flip burgers, so the pay rate is low, even though demand is high. There are relatively few people qualified to do surgery, relative to need, so the pay rate is high.
Incidentally, a lot of outsourced programming suffers from the same symptoms: Code produced without understanding or interest in the matter. The few that care in outsourcing move rapidly to better jobs. The ones that stay are the dross and what they produce has negative worth.
Domestic outsourced workers tend to be called consultants, and tend to get higher pay than the permanent staff. On equal pay, people would chose to be permanent for the security and benefits, so supply and demand requires higher pay for these consultants. For sure, foreign outsourced staff earn less. But again, it's supply and demand - there are an awful lot of trained computer programmers in India, eastern Europe, etc.
Right, in a holistic sense, everything a company does is about maximising money in, and minimising money out.
However, the point the OP is making is that this isn't a simple case of how much a computer/robot costs per hour or per unit vs the human cost of doing the same thing. Such that a change in the minimum wage would in some elastic way change the number of jobs that are automated.
His point is that automation is typically a fundamental change in the way of doing business, and will be driven by considerations far bigger than cost per hour or per unit.
In fact it may be that a business would automate even if staff would work for free. That may be the only way to compete. He gives the example of the inability of postal workers to compete with email for example, regardless of pay rates.
Bull. The numbers around chernobyl are thrown around with much hysteria, but lets look at some actual facts. WHO estimates the estimated death toll for Chernobyl might hit 4000
You're saying that 4000 killed from nuclear pollution from just one single incident somehow proves that nuclear isn't one of the fatally polluting energy generating methods? Logic fail.
I grant you it's not nearly as damaging pollution wise as coal. But the comparison with hydro is false. There are no pollution deaths from hydro.
If the question had been which forms of energy generation are safest overall, then that would be different matter. But it wasn't, so your call of "bull" is just plain wrong.
Personally I'm not anti-nuclear. I was just correcting an implicit assumption that nuclear doesn't kill through pollution.
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Unless you take some pleasure in punishing a person there is no retribution to be had from imprisoning.
Retribution is a school of thought that "the punishment should fit the crime". Supporters of this justification for sentences often quote "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth."
The criminal sentence used for retribution is to have the criminal pay for damages.
No, that's just another form of punishment. Equivalent to a fine in terms of retribution and deterrence, but having the additional rehabilitational element of making the offender appreciate the financial cost of the crime to society or the victim.
The reason the right wants longer prison sentences is more related to deterrence and containment. (Keep them off the streets.)
Containment is part of deterrence. And no, it's not just that. Retribution is very big amongst those on the right. In part because of that biblical justification. In part because talking tough is part of a right winger's identity. The same reason they tend to be willing to go to war without sufficient justification.
That comes under the category of deterrence.
There are two potentially conflicting routes to take here.
a) Do whatever the person that pays the wages says.
b) Do what your professionalism demands.
I don't know about you, but I'm not a puppet, nor a prostitute. I don't simply do whatever I'm even if it's the person paying the wages. I'm employed to be a professional. If they don't like it I'll take my talents elsewhere.
You forgot the main function, insulation, as in insulate society from criminals by keeping them apart.
I didn't forget anything. What you call "insulation" is called incapacitation in criminology, and is a part of deterrence.
Actually the two most important functions are insulation and deterrence. Both rehabilitation and retribution are irrelevant in comparison.
As I said, all agree on the importance of deterrence. The importance of the other two are more subjective.
Had the soldiers in Vietnam had the full support of congress and the president and the troop deployments they'd asked for ... You wouldn't be saying that.
Yes I would. The war was pointless.
I don't want to see track days go away
Track days won't go away. But you'll see ICE cars disappear from them in the next few years as EVs completely outpace them.
To be fair a lot of those Prius drivers were early adopters - before pure EVs were generally available. The Prius had been on sale for 13 years before the Leaf came along.
No doubt many of those Prius owners will be looking towards pure EVs for their next vehicle, when the time comes to replace.
Only if you live in a state towards the high end of the range for using coal generation of electricity. That 34mpg figure is a worst case scenario.
Well she was right about Vietnam. That was a mistake.
I see the problem of islamic gang(s) that was highlighted at HMP Long Lartin.
The parallels are not only to right-wing white gangs in US jails, but to black and hispanic gangs there. If there's enough inmates feeling that they have a common kinship, then they are quite likely to form a gang, and of course bully those who are not in the gang into conformity with the gangs norms.
The problem there seems to be that the Muslim population has reached 25% in that particular prison, presumably many drawn from the islamic fundamentalists groups.
But I don't see any reference to printed material having any bearing on this. Do you have a citation for that?
Criminal sentences have 3 objectives. Rehabilitation, retribution and deterrence.
Both left and right agree on the importance of deterrence. But the right tend to believe that retribution is the second most important function. Whilst the left believe rehabilitation is.
Just the part the limits a way for people to sneak drugs and all kinds of shit in.
Ignore the minister's political excuses, and look at the complete set of changes in rules. They are here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/...
As you see, they are all about the restriction of privileges. The ministers comment about searching parcels for drugs is just a red herring. A lie. You should have been able to tell - his lips moved.
The problem that has been highlighted is that reading should not be considered to be a privilege, but part of rehabilitation.
Real developers ship. You are working for a business; you are not doing an academic study.
It's not as simple as that. Managers tend to be concerned with short term results, such as shipping the next version. But skimping on doing it properly may make future versions harder to ship.
Ironically, you could have done with some whitespace around that URL.
True. But bear in mind that one shouldn't optimise early. So if one took the idea that state is bad, one could always compute the result rather than cache for the initial implementation. Then only cache where profiling indicates there's an issue.
I'll take a guess that readability is no more important in your code style than your prose.
Yeah, heaven forbid we should end up with well-read ex-cons. They'll be having ideas above their stations.
The GPS code I've seen was horrible and I worked for one of the major GPS players for several years.
Originally written in FORTRAN and later automatically converted to C.
Interesting. I can see that FORTRAN was once the computer language for mathematics, but it never occurred to me that GPS was old enough to be coded in it. But I see that GPS development started in 1973, and even then was based on some earlier work, so definitely during the time when FORTRAN was in common use.
Can't say I'm surprised that it tends to get ported rather than re-implemented. With something that's as complicated as that, with an implementation that has stood the test of time, better to stick with something that's not easily understandable than to have a new readable version with a whole new set of bugs.
It's not elegant because it's a dirty optimisation taking advantage of two inadequacies of C: The horrendous fall through behaviour of switch statements, and the lack of a requirement for proper nesting of control blocks.
The original code is far more elegant than DD.
Put it another way, the only reason for using DD rather than the original is that it was quicker on non-optimising compilers. Not that it was graceful, nor stylish, nor simple.
The fact that it's slower than the original code now makes it even less of a qualifier. It's now an optimisation failure. Something that needs to be removed to optimise.
While it is tragic, I agree. Many low-paid jobs are low-paid because many people that do them do not care about the quality of their work.
What utter bullshit. A job category isn't assessed for the average level of quality of work, and then cross industry pay rates set accordingly.
Nor in most classes of work is individual pay varied much according to performance. There may be scales according to years served, and small differences according to appraisals. But for example, a waiter will earn about the same, regardless. For sure in the professions, such as programming, performance can effect pay much more. But most jobs aren't professions. And your post was about "low-paid jobs".
Pay rates are simply set by supply and demand of qualified and willing workers. There are plenty of people that are willing and able to flip burgers, so the pay rate is low, even though demand is high. There are relatively few people qualified to do surgery, relative to need, so the pay rate is high.
Incidentally, a lot of outsourced programming suffers from the same symptoms: Code produced without understanding or interest in the matter. The few that care in outsourcing move rapidly to better jobs. The ones that stay are the dross and what they produce has negative worth.
Domestic outsourced workers tend to be called consultants, and tend to get higher pay than the permanent staff. On equal pay, people would chose to be permanent for the security and benefits, so supply and demand requires higher pay for these consultants. For sure, foreign outsourced staff earn less. But again, it's supply and demand - there are an awful lot of trained computer programmers in India, eastern Europe, etc.
Right, in a holistic sense, everything a company does is about maximising money in, and minimising money out.
However, the point the OP is making is that this isn't a simple case of how much a computer/robot costs per hour or per unit vs the human cost of doing the same thing. Such that a change in the minimum wage would in some elastic way change the number of jobs that are automated.
His point is that automation is typically a fundamental change in the way of doing business, and will be driven by considerations far bigger than cost per hour or per unit.
In fact it may be that a business would automate even if staff would work for free. That may be the only way to compete. He gives the example of the inability of postal workers to compete with email for example, regardless of pay rates.
Yeah, I nearly split my sides.
Bull.
The numbers around chernobyl are thrown around with much hysteria, but lets look at some actual facts. WHO estimates the estimated death toll for Chernobyl might hit 4000
You're saying that 4000 killed from nuclear pollution from just one single incident somehow proves that nuclear isn't one of the fatally polluting energy generating methods? Logic fail.
I grant you it's not nearly as damaging pollution wise as coal. But the comparison with hydro is false. There are no pollution deaths from hydro.
If the question had been which forms of energy generation are safest overall, then that would be different matter. But it wasn't, so your call of "bull" is just plain wrong.
Personally I'm not anti-nuclear. I was just correcting an implicit assumption that nuclear doesn't kill through pollution.
My recent experience with the Mac App store (if a newer version won't work on your hardware, you're SOL and can't get older versions that do work)
Not true. If there was a previous version on the Mac App store that would have worked, it's still available.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT...
I wonder if anyone is really stupid enough to base their retirement plans on bitcoin investment.