Thanks for the update. Haven't seen the keynote yet. Maybe tomorrow.
But what you're describing seems simply an addition to the existing multitasking system. What it's not is changing it to unlimited multitasking, as other mobile OSs do. And as you point out the reason is to ensure background apps can't kill battery life.
12 core Xeon is one of the options. Yet to be seen if that option is available at launch or follows a little later. But it's not unusual for Apple to have first dibs on a new chip.
Where is the next innovative product that will rub Microsoft's face in its own mediocrity? Where is the next iPad?
iPad was a whole new product category, and it was only introduced 3 years ago. You can't expect new categories every year, only new products. And there's several of those!
But clearly you're scraping the bottom of the barrel in your desire to attack Apple. The CEO clothes? This isn't a girlie glamour and celeb magazine.
some expanded multitasking in iOS 7 (although it's not clear if it's really extended capabilities over iOS 6 or just a spiffier UI)
I'm pretty sure it's just a UI redesign. There's no reason why Apple would change their multitasking API. The exact same justifications for it apply now as 2 years ago when they introduced it.
I actually agree that it looks like it will be more attractive to females. But of all ages, not just girls.
And given that women are a majority of their iPhone customers, why not? Is there some rule that GUIs should be designed to appeal to men more than women? Or is it just tradition?
Thunderbolt is an Intel technology. The cables are $40 whether you buy them from Apple or from anyone else. The reason is not because they are milking the market, but because thunderbolt has an active cable, not a passive one. i.e. Electronics in each plug.
The were $60 per cable at launch. Moores law, plus the fact that they are not a proprietary monopoly will ensure the price continues to fall.
But for the Mac Pro market, it's neither here nor there. When you're spending thousands on a computer system the odd $40 cable is irrelevant.
PCs with internal expansion were a sign of an immature market. Mature product markets don't usually have internal modification as a way to upgrade.
Expect fewer PCs from other manufacturers to be built as large mostly empty boxes, just in case the user wants to add something.
They're both wrong, and being disingenuous. IOS uses traditional filesystem organization EVERYWHERE except where the user can get at it.
We're talking about the GUI. The file system is implementation. It doesn't need to be exposed to the user any more than an API is. Any more than SQL needs to be exposed to an application that holds data in a database. That's not being disingenuous. Abstracting UIs from the implementation is standard software engineering.
The fact is that even on a desktop, ordinary people often have huge problems getting to grips with the concept of hierarchical filing systems, and even once they get it don't tend to memorise the places where things are stored. On mobile devices, where typical interactions are measured in seconds rather than minutes or hours, a hierarchical file system is even more ridiculous.
IF you don't have very many apps. Then your stuff overflows into other folders, you end up with multiple folders containing the same types of things
Those aren't data files, they are apps. They are displayed in an application that deals with apps. Same as songs are in a music app and emails are in an email app. There is no partial implementation of a filesystem in the iOS UI. The file system is not revealed at all.
No, Apple has skated back to where the puck was in the late 1970's. Tiny directories that can't have sub-directories. It's not a new idea. It's an idea the entire computing world tried, found wanting, and discarded long ago.
You're confusing revealing file systems, as in old GUIs, with hiding them, as in iOS. They are not the same thing.
No it doesn't connect you to the real world. But it connects you to what you've said before.
More importantly it means a discussion can take place because I can know that the series of replies in the same thread labeled "sumdumass" comes from the same person. Discussion is quite literally impossible with an AC, because you never know when a series of messages in a thread is the same person.
At the very least you haven't counted the cable that supplies the monitor with power.
At the very least you've ignored the monitor power cable, that will also be there. That it isn't plugged into the main box is not relevant, it's part of the tangle.
And I took the effort to highlight the word "easily" because of course people move traditional PCs. But it's not easy like it is with an all in one. That's another thing you managed to ignore,
Who ever said that it wasn't technically possible to change the default browser? No one.
It's a choice by Apple. A choice with reasons. And there's pros and cons to the choice.
Fundamentally Apple has always produced products "for the rest of us". That means the people who may not be experts in computing but are using devices for a purpose other than the device itself. They're not designed for people who's major purpose is tinkering around with the device itself.
If you're trying to give a blanket assurance that Android users don't have problems, your either naive or a liar. Google will show all manner of problems.
Because it gives multiple avenues for attack, not just one.
As things stand, they fix a vulnerability for Safari/Webkit, and it's fixed for the entire platform. There aren't other browsers that are still vulnerable.
Beyond security, it gives consistency. It means that a website that has been designed/adapted to work on an iPhone will always work on an iPhone. It won't stop working or have bugs because the user has loaded a different browser.
I can't even go out and buy an LCD that's as high resolution / pixel density as the two CRTs I just gave away (20" visible, 2048 x 1536)
And yet rather than keep them and use them you gave them away, buying an LCD instead. So your implication that screens haven't got better is given the lie by your own actions.
Yes there are other improvements beyond "screen sizes and resolutions" that one would miss out on when reusing a monitor from an old computer. The size advantages of LCD over CRT was one. And resolution comparisons between the two aren't quite as simple as you suggest. LCD enables sub-pixel rendering. That wasn't possible on CRT.
Why can't we just drag and drop from a folder like every other GUI?
Because Apple sees manual management of data files in folders a legacy concept. Something that belongs to the PC model of computing, and will be gone with post PC devices.
We're in an awkward period of transition right now, where manual management of data files are still a fact of life. But the time will come when such a concept is as irrelevant as choke, distributor cap and carburettors to modern day motorists.
Apple is skating to where the puck will be, not where it is, let alone where it used to be.
Obama is spying on every American with blanket data grabs and still fails to stop terrorist attacks
An irrational statement. It's kind of like blaming police of not stopping all crime in a very low crime area. Despite the fact that the record shows them preventing crimes and arresting criminals.
Obama has the IRS pry into the personal lives of anyone (and high school kids) who is trying to start a conservative non-profit
Another irrational statement. Obama is not micromanaging the IRS. There is indication Obama did any such thing. The IRS certainly seemed to go more for conservative groups. Though it's unclear if that was for personal political reasons of individuals within the IRS, or simply because they correctly profiled anti-tax activists as more likely to be evading tax.
Unfortunately your chance at the moral high-ground was killed when conservatives profiled black-people as being more likely to have invalid voter-registration, and thus did mass suppression of voting in black areas.
I don't deny that Apple doesn't have any equivalent of this thing, and thus the GP's post was silly
Indeed.
As to touch screen the iMac is indeed lacking it. But it's uselessness of a touch screen for a desktop OS is demonstrated by the photo of the product on the first page of TFA. What's that sitting next to the keyboard?
If Microsoft had pulled off Metro as a new interface for Windows, maybe this product would have a point. But the reality is no one likes Metro, and Microsoft is having a rethink of the software and (another) re-org of the company in order to change direction.
Because typical users use one app at a time, and 18" is plenty for web browsing, email and word processing. Most web designs don't take advantage of widths in excess of 960 pixels anyway.
That's one side. The other side is of the traditional separate component PC is the tangle of cables cascading down the back of the desk onto the floor, which typically doesn't get touched by anyone who vacuums, resulting in a long standing pile of detritus and dust.
It also means you can't easily pick the computer up and take it to another room, or put it in the car to take to another place, when you want.
And finally reusing a screen means you don't get the benefit of the latest screen sizes or resolutions.
Swings and roundabouts. You pay your money and you take your choice.
You're talking about the most popular tablet by far.
Ironically the exception was the launch of the original ipad which started at $500 the device closest to this one...and (stupidly) its latest model is still that price.
Of course. Apple typically don't reduce the price of their premium model, they just rev the hardware each year. For example it's double the dpi of the first gen.
But they do sometimes introduce lower priced models. Such as the iPad mini in this case. At $329.
This business model has made them the biggest, highest earning, most successful tech company today. Stupid? No, they know their business far better than you do.
Reality: Apple doesn't have a direct equivalent of this. But the closest (desktop OS, nearest to 18" screen) is the base model iMac. Which gives you a 21" screen for $1300, vs this Dell for $1350.
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Thanks for the update. Haven't seen the keynote yet. Maybe tomorrow.
But what you're describing seems simply an addition to the existing multitasking system. What it's not is changing it to unlimited multitasking, as other mobile OSs do. And as you point out the reason is to ensure background apps can't kill battery life.
Buy a single external enclosure that supports as many drives as you need. That's then one Thunderbolt cable and one power cable.
12 core Xeon is one of the options. Yet to be seen if that option is available at launch or follows a little later. But it's not unusual for Apple to have first dibs on a new chip.
Sounds like Mavericks fixes your problems.
Where is the next innovative product that will rub Microsoft's face in its own mediocrity? Where is the next iPad?
iPad was a whole new product category, and it was only introduced 3 years ago. You can't expect new categories every year, only new products. And there's several of those!
But clearly you're scraping the bottom of the barrel in your desire to attack Apple. The CEO clothes? This isn't a girlie glamour and celeb magazine.
some expanded multitasking in iOS 7 (although it's not clear if it's really extended capabilities over iOS 6 or just a spiffier UI)
I'm pretty sure it's just a UI redesign. There's no reason why Apple would change their multitasking API. The exact same justifications for it apply now as 2 years ago when they introduced it.
I actually agree that it looks like it will be more attractive to females. But of all ages, not just girls.
And given that women are a majority of their iPhone customers, why not? Is there some rule that GUIs should be designed to appeal to men more than women? Or is it just tradition?
It's HTML 5. What browser are you using? IE6?
Thunderbolt is an Intel technology. The cables are $40 whether you buy them from Apple or from anyone else. The reason is not because they are milking the market, but because thunderbolt has an active cable, not a passive one. i.e. Electronics in each plug.
The were $60 per cable at launch. Moores law, plus the fact that they are not a proprietary monopoly will ensure the price continues to fall.
But for the Mac Pro market, it's neither here nor there. When you're spending thousands on a computer system the odd $40 cable is irrelevant.
PCs with internal expansion were a sign of an immature market. Mature product markets don't usually have internal modification as a way to upgrade.
Expect fewer PCs from other manufacturers to be built as large mostly empty boxes, just in case the user wants to add something.
It would be if it were true. In actual fact it's HTML5, just as you'd expect.
They're both wrong, and being disingenuous. IOS uses traditional filesystem organization EVERYWHERE except where the user can get at it.
We're talking about the GUI. The file system is implementation. It doesn't need to be exposed to the user any more than an API is. Any more than SQL needs to be exposed to an application that holds data in a database. That's not being disingenuous. Abstracting UIs from the implementation is standard software engineering.
The fact is that even on a desktop, ordinary people often have huge problems getting to grips with the concept of hierarchical filing systems, and even once they get it don't tend to memorise the places where things are stored. On mobile devices, where typical interactions are measured in seconds rather than minutes or hours, a hierarchical file system is even more ridiculous.
IF you don't have very many apps. Then your stuff overflows into other folders, you end up with multiple folders containing the same types of things
Those aren't data files, they are apps. They are displayed in an application that deals with apps. Same as songs are in a music app and emails are in an email app. There is no partial implementation of a filesystem in the iOS UI. The file system is not revealed at all.
No, Apple has skated back to where the puck was in the late 1970's. Tiny directories that can't have sub-directories. It's not a new idea. It's an idea the entire computing world tried, found wanting, and discarded long ago.
You're confusing revealing file systems, as in old GUIs, with hiding them, as in iOS. They are not the same thing.
No it doesn't connect you to the real world. But it connects you to what you've said before.
More importantly it means a discussion can take place because I can know that the series of replies in the same thread labeled "sumdumass" comes from the same person. Discussion is quite literally impossible with an AC, because you never know when a series of messages in a thread is the same person.
At the very least you haven't counted the cable that supplies the monitor with power.
At the very least you've ignored the monitor power cable, that will also be there. That it isn't plugged into the main box is not relevant, it's part of the tangle.
And I took the effort to highlight the word "easily" because of course people move traditional PCs. But it's not easy like it is with an all in one. That's another thing you managed to ignore,
Who ever said that it wasn't technically possible to change the default browser? No one.
It's a choice by Apple. A choice with reasons. And there's pros and cons to the choice.
Fundamentally Apple has always produced products "for the rest of us". That means the people who may not be experts in computing but are using devices for a purpose other than the device itself. They're not designed for people who's major purpose is tinkering around with the device itself.
If you're trying to give a blanket assurance that Android users don't have problems, your either naive or a liar. Google will show all manner of problems.
Because it gives multiple avenues for attack, not just one.
As things stand, they fix a vulnerability for Safari/Webkit, and it's fixed for the entire platform. There aren't other browsers that are still vulnerable.
Beyond security, it gives consistency. It means that a website that has been designed/adapted to work on an iPhone will always work on an iPhone. It won't stop working or have bugs because the user has loaded a different browser.
I want to be able to choose Chrome as my browser instead of Safari.
Why?
I can't even go out and buy an LCD that's as high resolution / pixel density as the two CRTs I just gave away (20" visible, 2048 x 1536)
And yet rather than keep them and use them you gave them away, buying an LCD instead. So your implication that screens haven't got better is given the lie by your own actions.
Yes there are other improvements beyond "screen sizes and resolutions" that one would miss out on when reusing a monitor from an old computer. The size advantages of LCD over CRT was one. And resolution comparisons between the two aren't quite as simple as you suggest. LCD enables sub-pixel rendering. That wasn't possible on CRT.
Why can't we just drag and drop from a folder like every other GUI?
Because Apple sees manual management of data files in folders a legacy concept. Something that belongs to the PC model of computing, and will be gone with post PC devices.
We're in an awkward period of transition right now, where manual management of data files are still a fact of life. But the time will come when such a concept is as irrelevant as choke, distributor cap and carburettors to modern day motorists.
Apple is skating to where the puck will be, not where it is, let alone where it used to be.
Obama is spying on every American with blanket data grabs and still fails to stop terrorist attacks
An irrational statement. It's kind of like blaming police of not stopping all crime in a very low crime area. Despite the fact that the record shows them preventing crimes and arresting criminals.
Obama has the IRS pry into the personal lives of anyone (and high school kids) who is trying to start a conservative non-profit
Another irrational statement. Obama is not micromanaging the IRS. There is indication Obama did any such thing. The IRS certainly seemed to go more for conservative groups. Though it's unclear if that was for personal political reasons of individuals within the IRS, or simply because they correctly profiled anti-tax activists as more likely to be evading tax.
Unfortunately your chance at the moral high-ground was killed when conservatives profiled black-people as being more likely to have invalid voter-registration, and thus did mass suppression of voting in black areas.
I don't deny that Apple doesn't have any equivalent of this thing, and thus the GP's post was silly
Indeed.
As to touch screen the iMac is indeed lacking it. But it's uselessness of a touch screen for a desktop OS is demonstrated by the photo of the product on the first page of TFA. What's that sitting next to the keyboard?
If Microsoft had pulled off Metro as a new interface for Windows, maybe this product would have a point. But the reality is no one likes Metro, and Microsoft is having a rethink of the software and (another) re-org of the company in order to change direction.
Because typical users use one app at a time, and 18" is plenty for web browsing, email and word processing. Most web designs don't take advantage of widths in excess of 960 pixels anyway.
That's one side. The other side is of the traditional separate component PC is the tangle of cables cascading down the back of the desk onto the floor, which typically doesn't get touched by anyone who vacuums, resulting in a long standing pile of detritus and dust.
It also means you can't easily pick the computer up and take it to another room, or put it in the car to take to another place, when you want.
And finally reusing a screen means you don't get the benefit of the latest screen sizes or resolutions.
Swings and roundabouts. You pay your money and you take your choice.
...and its hurting them across the board.
You're talking about the most popular tablet by far.
Ironically the exception was the launch of the original ipad which started at $500 the device closest to this one...and (stupidly) its latest model is still that price.
Of course. Apple typically don't reduce the price of their premium model, they just rev the hardware each year. For example it's double the dpi of the first gen.
But they do sometimes introduce lower priced models. Such as the iPad mini in this case. At $329.
This business model has made them the biggest, highest earning, most successful tech company today. Stupid? No, they know their business far better than you do.
Reality: Apple doesn't have a direct equivalent of this. But the closest (desktop OS, nearest to 18" screen) is the base model iMac. Which gives you a 21" screen for $1300, vs this Dell for $1350.