I wasn't abused asshole. I was spanked. For doing common things like skipping school, getting into fights. I was never bruised, marked, or anything of the sort. I know right from wrong, and I respect and love my parents.
Right. So the beatings were so good at teaching you right from wrong, you kept on doing things wrong and you kept on being beaten.
Here's a clue. The kids who are going to school every day, and aren't getting in to fights are more likely to be the ones who are not beaten at home.
The only reason you think corporal punishment is OK is because of the normalising effect of childhood. You were beaten therefore beating is OK. You speak about your parents in the present tense. Something I experienced myself is that it was only after both my parents had passed away, when I was in my approaching 40, that I began to see my childhood as it really was. That I began to see it critically rather than just assume my parents got everything right.
Only an idiot would take what they see on the internet as religious truth without any evidence to back up what they are seeing. Here you have a girl who planted a video camera knowing she was about to get spanked for doing something that could potentially cost her father hundreds of thousands of dollars. You also know that she posted this because her father took away her mercedes and allowance as an act of spite.
There are two videos of interest. One is the 7 minute one of her being beaten with a belt. The other is the interview. If you'd actually seen the interview, you'd have realised that the mother - who administered one of the lashes of the belt - is sat beside her daughter, supporting her. It seems like the father wasn't just abusing the daughter but his wife as well.
What was that about only an idiot? You're supporting a child abuser as a result of you being beaten as a child. You're a classic stereotype.
Gary, I'm for my initial tone. There were a lot of unthoughtful comments I'd just read through when I made my response, and I think that made me a bit patronising. Yours wasn't one of the unthoughtful ones, and so I apologise for replying as if it was.
It seems to me if your daughter has Asperger's then that's a whole different ballgame, and experience of other kids doesn't necessarily apply.
I nearly said in my original reply that if you want her to go to her room and she won't go, why don't you just take her there, and prevent her leaving till she calms down. At 7 that's still doable. But of course you are already doing that.
I'll just say this. If the only reason she's not as badly behaved as she used to be because of medication, then are you sure that spankings actually worked? It seems to me if her bad behaviour is brought on by a medical condition then it's even more wrong, and unpredictable in it's long term effect, to use corporal punishment.
I've been interested to hear from Temple Grandin, and her story that she finds physical contact with other human beings to be very disturbing. Whilst a hug for most people will calm them down, for her it would have the opposite effect. I wonder whether holding your daughter down does actually calm her down or just finally exhausts her?
Temple Grandin also tells of her "squeezing machine" that does calm her down. What are your thoughts on that? It seems to me as an outsider that maybe there's an alternative there to both holding down and punishment?
The only reason you think there is a difference is because of the normalising effect of childhood. You were abused by a parent with a belt when you were a child, so you think that behaviour is acceptable.
There is no limit to this normalising effect. People who were sexually abused by a parent often go on to sexually abuse their own children.
Any time someone justifies something because that was the way things were when they were a kid, you know you're dealing with someone who's ideas are governed by conditioning, not thought.
Guess what. Other people would be horrified by your actions. Of course you think the corporal punishment you give to your daughter is acceptable. Trouble is: Judge Adams also thinks what he did was acceptable.
The problem is that you're trying to find a line between how it's acceptable to hit children, and how it's not acceptable. And there is no such line. Discipline by using violence is morally and practically wrong.
Other times, like out and out disobedience (multiple times (room...ROOM...ROOM NOW!!)) it's just necessary.
So if you chose something as the last resort before beating that the child might just refuse to do, you made a bad choice. Sending to their room is fine if you know they will do it. If there's any element of doubt that they will obey, then it's a mistake. There's plenty of other options. Kids want lots of things that parents supply. They want money, a computer, games, mobile phone credits, taking to their social activities in the car, etc.etc. etc. Pick a punishment where you are actually in control, and you don't risk feeling like you have to escalate to a beating.
Beating might make your child comply to your immediate demand. But it won't make you a better or more respected parent. And it won't make your daughter a better child, or later a better adult. So why do it?
I was spanked with a razor belt more times than I care to count when I was growing up.
People who were abused as children often likely to justify and, and are more likely than average to go on to abuse their own children. Because you were beaten as a child, you will probably beat your own children.
That doesn't make it right, except in your own corrupted mind.
He thinks he's entitled to get the GUI of his choice bundled with Ubuntu. Even though he isn't paying for it.
When someone offers me something for free, and it's not to my taste, I just politely decline it. I don't abuse them for not offering something tailored to my tastes.
I haven't really gone looking, but I'd actually be interested to see where Apple is doing compared to individual PC manufacturers, rather than grouping all Windows machines together. Anyone have that data close at hand?
The Gartner study covers that. Sorry the link didn't work, but if you find the press releases on the Gartner site, you'll find it.
You're making a pattern out of a single event? Good luck with that approach.
The pertinent difference between Jobs leaving Apple in 1985 and him leaving Apple in 2011 is this: In 1985 Apple thought Jobs' way was wrong. In 2011 they know that Jobs' way was right.
Yet you don't find the lack of capital letters at the beginning of sentences to be a problem. If you're going to be a grammar nazi, it's probably a good idea to use correct grammar yourself.
Who are these enemies you speak of? Competitors and freetards on Slashdot. That's about it.
MS did the same once and those who thought that in business their is no room for hard feelings and rancor were ignoring moves by old MS rivals that didn't benefit the rivals as much as screw MS over.
MS hasn't been coasting for the last decade because it has enemies. It's because because it's only managed to be successful in one new market since they established the Windows and Office monopolies in the 1990s. That one new market being games consoles.
There is also the theory that 7" is a better size than 9.5" for this market. Beyond a certain size bigger is certainly better, but I dont think this market is in that zone. People want something that they can hold comfortably in one hand for a long period of time.
Smartphones already fill the "comfortable to hold in one hand for a long period of time" market. Tablets are a different market. A 7" is a compromise between tablet and phone, not being ideal for either.
The iPad 2 has the same resolution as the iPad 1 because iPad apps are designed for a fixed resolution and DPI. The resolution will only change when it's feasible to double it, as then all the apps will still work fine without scaling.
That's exactly the same as happened with the iPhone.
Android gives few guarantees as to resolution and DPI. Manufacturers can do what they like. Developers have to cope with that by scaling and/or stretching and/or relaying out their app UIs.
The Android approach gives a greater choice of device sizes. The Apple approach gives more consistency and design quality of UI.
Sure, the tablets look interesting, but after you buy one and try to use it you find that you're better off using your smart phone or your netbook.
And which tablet did you buy, that you speak with such authority? Given the smack talk elsewhere in your post it obviously wasn't an iPad.
The fact that there's basically no real demand for tablets is exactly why no other company besides Apple has been able to produce a successful competitor.
The Occam's razor answer is that no other company besides Apple produces a good tablet. Your apparent dissatisfaction with the non-iPad tablet you bought only underlines that.
The tablet fad will likely be over by the summer of 2012, if not completely by early 2013.
Oh really? And how long did you give the iPod fad and the iPhone fad? How wrong were you?
Incidentally, how well are Macs selling these days? Has Apple gained marketshare @ the expense of PCs?
In the US, Apple's marketshare went down to something like 1.5% at it's lowest. Mac has 12.9% now according to the latest Gartner study.
Elsewhere in the world, Apple's marketshare is lower, and Gartner only publicly publishes the top 5, so one would have to look elsewhere to get a estimate on how that's been growing.
How long before normal users who didn't pay $99/year to be a developer get the fix?
We'll soon know. The point is it's being widely tested before being sent to end users.
Your attitude of "it's only... so we don't need to test" has resulted in so many broken software releases over the years. And in any case, just because your example bug is only a wrong comparison doesn't mean this Apple bug is that simple. Plus the iOS 5.0.1 features more than just the battery fix.
As I said - in one case, we had a turnaround of less than a day from seeing something odd in/proc/wakelocks to kernel fixes being deployed.
Fixes from one kernel dev to another. It's likely the Apple dev who was working on that bug had a fix in a short time from when the bug was reproduced. And it was available to other devs in Apple. The only difference is that what's happening in teh Android case is visible. There's not a difference in speed. Android devs are not somehow faster workers than Apple devs.
How long before normal users who don't know what git is, and can't compile their own version of Android. Who are on some random model of Android phone, on some random carrier somewhere in the world get it? Six months? Never?
All iPhone users will have it available for auto-download the same day of release. Once it's been properly tested. The average end user always gets new versions of iOS faster than Android users.
I accept that Apple solutions only work with Apple devices.
iCloud doesn't require a data plan. It just requires access to the internet. Which can be Wi-Fi.
Songs don't come from the 5GB free data limit. They use a process called "iTunes Match", which means they just send a hash of the audio file up to the cloud. If that particular file is already on Tunes, or someone has already uploaded it, then they don't upload it from your machine. They just note that you have the song. Only if it's an audio file that no-one else has is it actually uploaded. And then it gets stored elsewhere, not in your 5GB.
Scripts, after being wrote, can be shared and used without special skills (unless double clicking on a file is a special skill).
Been there, done that. It's usually a frustrating experience. Dependencies that you don't have. Dependancies that are the wrong version. Having to edit the script to match the file locations of things on your own system. For those people who do this kind of thing every day, not a great challenge. But a non-starter for most of the population.
Having a nice, clean, usable GUI doesn't preclude from having a flexible, easy to automate CLI interface.
No indeed. And I think that means your presumption of not being able to use the machine whilst Automator workflows are happening is wrong. Automator isn't operating the GUIs for you. Rather applications have a non-GUI interface, originally used to allow AppleScript to do stuff with applications. A workflow using these shouldn't interfere with a user using an apps GUI at the same time.
I think apps that have both a GUI and a CLI or other programmable interface are great. The allow workflows, and not necessarily script based ones. It's tools that only have a CLI interface that I'm criticising.
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I wasn't abused asshole. I was spanked. For doing common things like skipping school, getting into fights. I was never bruised, marked, or anything of the sort. I know right from wrong, and I respect and love my parents.
Right. So the beatings were so good at teaching you right from wrong, you kept on doing things wrong and you kept on being beaten.
Here's a clue. The kids who are going to school every day, and aren't getting in to fights are more likely to be the ones who are not beaten at home.
The only reason you think corporal punishment is OK is because of the normalising effect of childhood. You were beaten therefore beating is OK. You speak about your parents in the present tense. Something I experienced myself is that it was only after both my parents had passed away, when I was in my approaching 40, that I began to see my childhood as it really was. That I began to see it critically rather than just assume my parents got everything right.
Only an idiot would take what they see on the internet as religious truth without any evidence to back up what they are seeing. Here you have a girl who planted a video camera knowing she was about to get spanked for doing something that could potentially cost her father hundreds of thousands of dollars. You also know that she posted this because her father took away her mercedes and allowance as an act of spite.
There are two videos of interest. One is the 7 minute one of her being beaten with a belt. The other is the interview. If you'd actually seen the interview, you'd have realised that the mother - who administered one of the lashes of the belt - is sat beside her daughter, supporting her. It seems like the father wasn't just abusing the daughter but his wife as well.
What was that about only an idiot? You're supporting a child abuser as a result of you being beaten as a child. You're a classic stereotype.
Gary, I'm for my initial tone. There were a lot of unthoughtful comments I'd just read through when I made my response, and I think that made me a bit patronising. Yours wasn't one of the unthoughtful ones, and so I apologise for replying as if it was.
It seems to me if your daughter has Asperger's then that's a whole different ballgame, and experience of other kids doesn't necessarily apply.
I nearly said in my original reply that if you want her to go to her room and she won't go, why don't you just take her there, and prevent her leaving till she calms down. At 7 that's still doable. But of course you are already doing that.
I'll just say this. If the only reason she's not as badly behaved as she used to be because of medication, then are you sure that spankings actually worked? It seems to me if her bad behaviour is brought on by a medical condition then it's even more wrong, and unpredictable in it's long term effect, to use corporal punishment.
I've been interested to hear from Temple Grandin, and her story that she finds physical contact with other human beings to be very disturbing. Whilst a hug for most people will calm them down, for her it would have the opposite effect. I wonder whether holding your daughter down does actually calm her down or just finally exhausts her?
Temple Grandin also tells of her "squeezing machine" that does calm her down. What are your thoughts on that? It seems to me as an outsider that maybe there's an alternative there to both holding down and punishment?
The only reason you think there is a difference is because of the normalising effect of childhood. You were abused by a parent with a belt when you were a child, so you think that behaviour is acceptable.
There is no limit to this normalising effect. People who were sexually abused by a parent often go on to sexually abuse their own children.
Any time someone justifies something because that was the way things were when they were a kid, you know you're dealing with someone who's ideas are governed by conditioning, not thought.
Funny. A belt is child abuse these days. In my day, that was considered 'punishment' for fucking up.
We live in more enlightened times.
How would he? You don't seem to. You can't teach someone that violent discipline is wrong by disciplining them violently.
I was horrified by the father's actions.
Guess what. Other people would be horrified by your actions. Of course you think the corporal punishment you give to your daughter is acceptable. Trouble is: Judge Adams also thinks what he did was acceptable.
The problem is that you're trying to find a line between how it's acceptable to hit children, and how it's not acceptable. And there is no such line. Discipline by using violence is morally and practically wrong.
Other times, like out and out disobedience (multiple times (room...ROOM...ROOM NOW!!)) it's just necessary.
So if you chose something as the last resort before beating that the child might just refuse to do, you made a bad choice. Sending to their room is fine if you know they will do it. If there's any element of doubt that they will obey, then it's a mistake. There's plenty of other options. Kids want lots of things that parents supply. They want money, a computer, games, mobile phone credits, taking to their social activities in the car, etc.etc. etc. Pick a punishment where you are actually in control, and you don't risk feeling like you have to escalate to a beating.
Beating might make your child comply to your immediate demand. But it won't make you a better or more respected parent. And it won't make your daughter a better child, or later a better adult. So why do it?
No, he's beating his daughter because he's an idiot with anger management and control issues.
Yes, that. I'd also be willing to wager he's a christian. That correlates highly with child abuse too.
I was spanked with a razor belt more times than I care to count when I was growing up.
People who were abused as children often likely to justify and, and are more likely than average to go on to abuse their own children. Because you were beaten as a child, you will probably beat your own children.
That doesn't make it right, except in your own corrupted mind.
That's just someone's dressed up attempts at advocating Marxist wealth redistribution.
That's an interesting perspective. How do you come to that conclusion?
I could buy the wood from a lumber yard to build kitchen table for about half the price I paid for my kitchen table.
He thinks he's entitled to get the GUI of his choice bundled with Ubuntu. Even though he isn't paying for it.
When someone offers me something for free, and it's not to my taste, I just politely decline it. I don't abuse them for not offering something tailored to my tastes.
I haven't really gone looking, but I'd actually be interested to see where Apple is doing compared to individual PC manufacturers, rather than grouping all Windows machines together. Anyone have that data close at hand?
The Gartner study covers that. Sorry the link didn't work, but if you find the press releases on the Gartner site, you'll find it.
You're making a pattern out of a single event? Good luck with that approach.
The pertinent difference between Jobs leaving Apple in 1985 and him leaving Apple in 2011 is this: In 1985 Apple thought Jobs' way was wrong. In 2011 they know that Jobs' way was right.
Yet you don't find the lack of capital letters at the beginning of sentences to be a problem. If you're going to be a grammar nazi, it's probably a good idea to use correct grammar yourself.
Apple is also making a LOT of enemies.
Lets see now. Consumers love Apple. Media companies, Carriers, OEMs. They all want to work with Apple. Developers are flocking to Apple. ( http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/paperinfo/tpci/Objective-C.html)
Who are these enemies you speak of? Competitors and freetards on Slashdot. That's about it.
MS did the same once and those who thought that in business their is no room for hard feelings and rancor were ignoring moves by old MS rivals that didn't benefit the rivals as much as screw MS over.
MS hasn't been coasting for the last decade because it has enemies. It's because because it's only managed to be successful in one new market since they established the Windows and Office monopolies in the 1990s. That one new market being games consoles.
You said it yourself, the iPad2 is very conspicious in the its screen usage. Maybe they bought a little bit to many?
iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS all used the same size and DPI screens. Then the iPhone 4 doubled the DPI. 3 years before a change.
Apple released the iPad 2 eleven months after the iPad 1. Why on earth would you expect it to have a different size or DPI?
There is also the theory that 7" is a better size than 9.5" for this market. Beyond a certain size bigger is certainly better, but I dont think this market is in that zone. People want something that they can hold comfortably in one hand for a long period of time.
Smartphones already fill the "comfortable to hold in one hand for a long period of time" market. Tablets are a different market. A 7" is a compromise between tablet and phone, not being ideal for either.
The iPad 2 has the same resolution as the iPad 1 because iPad apps are designed for a fixed resolution and DPI. The resolution will only change when it's feasible to double it, as then all the apps will still work fine without scaling.
That's exactly the same as happened with the iPhone.
Android gives few guarantees as to resolution and DPI. Manufacturers can do what they like. Developers have to cope with that by scaling and/or stretching and/or relaying out their app UIs.
The Android approach gives a greater choice of device sizes. The Apple approach gives more consistency and design quality of UI.
you look at the Mac lineup and frankly i can't think of a time the Mac has been "bleeding edge' with regards to their chips
I can. The first Intel MacBook Pros launched with new CPU from Intel that no one else had at the time. Fastest laptops in production.
I'm not saying that was necessarily the only time. I don't follow it that closely. But I remember they were the fastest at that point.
Sure, the tablets look interesting, but after you buy one and try to use it you find that you're better off using your smart phone or your netbook.
And which tablet did you buy, that you speak with such authority? Given the smack talk elsewhere in your post it obviously wasn't an iPad.
The fact that there's basically no real demand for tablets is exactly why no other company besides Apple has been able to produce a successful competitor.
The Occam's razor answer is that no other company besides Apple produces a good tablet. Your apparent dissatisfaction with the non-iPad tablet you bought only underlines that.
The tablet fad will likely be over by the summer of 2012, if not completely by early 2013.
Oh really? And how long did you give the iPod fad and the iPhone fad? How wrong were you?
Incidentally, how well are Macs selling these days? Has Apple gained marketshare @ the expense of PCs?
In the US, Apple's marketshare went down to something like 1.5% at it's lowest. Mac has 12.9% now according to the latest Gartner study.
Elsewhere in the world, Apple's marketshare is lower, and Gartner only publicly publishes the top 5, so one would have to look elsewhere to get a estimate on how that's been growing.
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice
"As early as 6 months" doesn't preclude the fact that some people get longer than that. But it does mean that some people are getting just 6 months.
And that's appalling. It would be unforgivable if it was iPhone. But somehow Android gets an easy ride hereabouts.
How long before normal users who didn't pay $99/year to be a developer get the fix?
We'll soon know. The point is it's being widely tested before being sent to end users.
Your attitude of "it's only... so we don't need to test" has resulted in so many broken software releases over the years. And in any case, just because your example bug is only a wrong comparison doesn't mean this Apple bug is that simple. Plus the iOS 5.0.1 features more than just the battery fix.
As I said - in one case, we had a turnaround of less than a day from seeing something odd in /proc/wakelocks to kernel fixes being deployed.
Fixes from one kernel dev to another. It's likely the Apple dev who was working on that bug had a fix in a short time from when the bug was reproduced. And it was available to other devs in Apple. The only difference is that what's happening in teh Android case is visible. There's not a difference in speed. Android devs are not somehow faster workers than Apple devs.
How long before normal users who don't know what git is, and can't compile their own version of Android. Who are on some random model of Android phone, on some random carrier somewhere in the world get it? Six months? Never?
All iPhone users will have it available for auto-download the same day of release. Once it's been properly tested. The average end user always gets new versions of iOS faster than Android users.
I accept that Apple solutions only work with Apple devices.
iCloud doesn't require a data plan. It just requires access to the internet. Which can be Wi-Fi.
Songs don't come from the 5GB free data limit. They use a process called "iTunes Match", which means they just send a hash of the audio file up to the cloud. If that particular file is already on Tunes, or someone has already uploaded it, then they don't upload it from your machine. They just note that you have the song. Only if it's an audio file that no-one else has is it actually uploaded. And then it gets stored elsewhere, not in your 5GB.
Scripts, after being wrote, can be shared and used without special skills (unless double clicking on a file is a special skill).
Been there, done that. It's usually a frustrating experience. Dependencies that you don't have. Dependancies that are the wrong version. Having to edit the script to match the file locations of things on your own system. For those people who do this kind of thing every day, not a great challenge. But a non-starter for most of the population.
Having a nice, clean, usable GUI doesn't preclude from having a flexible, easy to automate CLI interface.
No indeed. And I think that means your presumption of not being able to use the machine whilst Automator workflows are happening is wrong. Automator isn't operating the GUIs for you. Rather applications have a non-GUI interface, originally used to allow AppleScript to do stuff with applications. A workflow using these shouldn't interfere with a user using an apps GUI at the same time.
I think apps that have both a GUI and a CLI or other programmable interface are great. The allow workflows, and not necessarily script based ones. It's tools that only have a CLI interface that I'm criticising.