No you have it all wrong, everything in life is about saying things at the right time and in the right way. I am sure you were one of those kids who thought it was perfectly ok to yell out in class as long as you were right, or it needed to be said.
Assaulting someone with information is wrong in all situations, if you want something to change offer it as an idea, in a situation where the person can focus on that idea, and relay to you, the reasons it is good or bad. This isn't a matter of employee and boss, but human being to human being, in a civilized world.
but if that's hard to stand, I am sure Wendy's or some cheap tech job will always be happy to have you.
I see you posted that anonymously, go you, for exemplifying courage and conviction, bet you also leave nasty notes on peoples cars if you feel they parked wrong. I would have responded to your comment, but I think anonymous cowards should be removed from the group.
OK, your angry your boss appears less intelligent than you. I totally would have done it this way, as I ocassionally here as I walk around the office. But the point is, the manager doesn't need to give you information as to why he made his decision, it is none of your business, you work underneath him. He doesn't answer to you, it's the other way around. Superior people skills, he just BSed his way up there, ok, if that's what you think, or how it is in your company I am sorry.
No manager should be your buddy, I often see this at restaraunts where I get terrible service, the manager is flirting with the waitress, what the heck. Anyhow, a manager isn't around to be your friend or make you feel comfortable about his decisions, if he/she asks for your input, give it, otherwise, as is said to children, don't speak untill spoken to.
even managers, must understand there is a time to question and a time to not. Most employees don't understand this, if you have posed an either embarassing or off topic question in a meeting, I am sure the decision to keep you from being i management has already been decided.
I'll have you know, not only do we have a contract as such, but many other companies as well, such as Dana Corporation, the U.S. government, go to a recruiter station, bet they have Dells
The reason why we don't take your suggestions is because most people make them in an assaulting or inappropriate manner. Hey, I've got this problem, this is what we should do. Write it in an email, send it on, I'll read it when I have time and there in choose an appropriate course of action, possibly to discuss it in the next meeting. The problem is most people feel they have a right to their job, that it was owed to them, when in actuallity, their job is a priviledge.
Also, a fair amount of suggestions are horribly short sighted, or uninformed. Like, when IT suggest, well why don't we simply build systems in house for this job. Well because i have a contract with Dell saying I won't do that, and in return they cut the company a great deal on the other 300 pcs we have to buy and replace every couple of years, not to mention the parts and service waranties that automatically are updated to four hour on site, by having this contract.
We managers, in a finely tuned company, are supposed to have a better perspective of the whole than those under us, and I am not talking about operations managers, there just glorified paper pushers, essentially second lieutenants passing on orders from above and keeping track of payroll.
The employees have the view of a man in the field, as far as his eye can carry to the next hill. front line managers, the lieutenants, at least get to stand on a hill, and see several of the hills in the battle, giving them the perpective of which of these hills to take. middle management, Is far back, taking in all of the views of the liuetenants, and seeing the whole field, deciding which patches of the field to move the lietenants into. Generals, upper management, are supposed to see the battle, like looking down from an aerial view, to see the whole countryside, and use their will and vision, to push the whole war in one direction or another.
This is how a company "should" function. Upper management has vision and direction with respect to the company in comparison to the outside world, middle management only sees enough of the outside world to understand the orders from above and how to carry them out, how to push that vision forward. Front line managers(operational), can't see the outside world, and only know the company, and of that they can see very little. The employees, they have their gun, their pack, and their told to charge up a hill, they see an easier hill to take to their left, and see many benefits to taking that hill in opposition of their orders and feel that their managers aren't making an appropriate decision, but that's only because they didn't know that the whole division just flanked left and their making it possible for the army to move forward as a whole.
sorry about all the millitary reference, but, I have a close connection to that kind of scenario.
what was the process to install that open source driver to run OSX, sounds like a bit of tinkering, and I bet your G3 still isn't as quick as my box, also, what is an IT professional exactly? In your words anyhow.
B) You claim, back to back, that (1) you didn't ask a question, and (2) I didn't answer your question. Which is it? It can't be both.
Ugh I hate this, I didn't claim I didn't ask a question, I said, how could I be right or wrong, I asked a question.
It seems even in your post of what I said, I stated I asked a question.
A) RTFA - the port doesn't just always close after 10 seconds - it listens for a connection for 10 seconds. It none is made (ie, successful login), the port closes up all hidden again.
my point is, what is the point of this security if the port then stays open after the first connection.
You say I can specify, because of linux, is linux on my router? Is that what Cisco or Linksys has on my router? Most people don't use a pc running linux as their router, home users use linksys or d-link, and companies use Cisco routers.
I think we can agree that the internet started with BBS systems originally, well internet for the home anyhow. And BBS were all about, file sharing, information sharing, and other things while only giving a handle(alias), to the BBS. Sure they could keep phone records, just as ISPs keep IP records, but I didn't need to make my personal information available to the public.
Ummm...this article is on slashdot, do you think hackers will honestly look at a closed port computer and move on? It'll be like a quest to be the first guy to hack the port knock. Also you wouldn't have all your ports closed, don't you still want your email server to recieve email, or your webserver to be able to be visited anonymously, or your ftp server? And yes I have an FTP server that I allow anonymous connections to, because I keep files like builds of linux, and some other stuff on it, that I don't mind sharing out.
well that's pretty much the full upload speed with a standard DSL connection 256 kbps, granted, it is only half but remember, there is wrapping around that 130kbps, plus, you may actually want to use your internet connection for more than just your chat session, like I usually do work or other stuff at home while IMing or talking on my phone.
how does it make the port appear closed after ten seconds, communication is still traversing that port if you open an SSH session you ussually continue to use it for a while don't you?
Also, how could I be right or wrong, I asked a question. Also you didn't answer if it had a way of allowing that port to be open for just the IP using it, otherwise the port would have to appear open, because it is open.
an anonymous coward saying that it's ok if we all have to list correct information for whois. Isnt' that ironic. lol. Having a domain may be a priviledge but not a government one. The whole internet was pretty much bought and payed for with private funds. I don't see how the government should have any say in this manner.
we let them have some say in DNS regulation, makes sense you don't want a billion people using the same domain name, or different DNS solutions giving different IP information. But they dont' need to know my real name when I register a DNS, there is no need whatsoever. If they have problems with traffic coming from a webserver, that has nothing to do with who is, they can simply back trace the IP address to its ISP and subpoena my data. Which will be correct for billing purposes. So as I said before this will just help the government and corporations get information they want without having to go through with due process.
where do you work, I don't have that many malicious attacks at home or at work, my router reports about 38 possible attacks a night, but the majority of these are actually just bad packets or things that weren't malicious in intent, but there was just some bad hardware somewhere.
I think your right though this is so that, now instead of getting civily sued by the RIAA they can also tack on some kind of Felony because of fraud.
This will make the scare tactic better and then when the notice comes to your door, it's 4 years imprisonment and a felony on your record or settle out of court for 3000$ and then they prosicute you criminally anyhow. Lets stop making laws and start enforcing the ones we have.
i always thought that the point of the internet or one of them was anonymnity. Lets face it, it's only anonymous from people that don't want to get a subpoena. If the courts wanted your real information, they trace the IP, find the ISP your using to host your site, then get your info that way. This is just a way for the RIAA to get your information without having to go through the proper legal channels.
I didn't equate it. I said if you know about computers you should be able to put one together such as, if you know how to run, you should also know how to walk.
Also I restate, if your such a hardware god, why on earth did you own a dell.
what did you build for apple? Why were you a programmer, CS major, then a hardware developer, EE or CE. Did you get some kind of 8 year degree or something? are you now in your late 50s, if you have 20 years experience. How do I know your not just full of shit?
your slashdot number of 614605 is kind of large for someone who has been in the industry for nearly as long as I've been alive.
Why did you switch from working on IBM machines to Apple? Did you just not like making tons of money being an AS/400 programmer/developer.
I don't use foo.com, I use newegg actually. And I wasn't using my ability to build a computer as a source of pride, I was more saying, it's so simple any idiot should be able to build it.
Back to Dell, why did you own one? Why didn't you build your own PC?
you entirely skipped my point, I dind't say it wouldn't be secure, I said it would be irritating for me as the admin, when people tried to crack it. your Reasons 1) 2) and 3) are just the reasons why they would try even harder and annoy me even more.
well VOIP is 52Kbps standard, for decent quality, and that's with Ciscos VOIP technology, so lets see, real time encoding and decoding of voice, plus video at probably 300 Kbps real time encoding and Decoding, most people nither have the system nor the broadband connection to support this well.
Nothing like getting sea sick from watching the persons lips move than hearing their voice.( I know this isn't sea sickness). At slashdot people will get you for anything.
RANDOMGEEKYSLASHDOTTER:"No actually your an idiot sea sickness comes from,blah blah blah, I am a sea sickness expert at company I can't name cause i am actually a teenage kid in my moms basement"
Well quite honestly what you just listed as your software development knowledge doesn't really make you an expert at anything dealing with a desktop PC.
Plus the fact that your argument was based on the idea that you purchased a Dell tells me you didn't read what I wrote. I built my machine. Not purchased a dell. Hence why I said for experienced computer users, because no computer savvy person would ever buy a Dell. Not because it is a bad system, but because price per pound you can always build a better system yourself.
By the way folks, for those of you that don't know what a 3090 is, it's an IBM system that runs on an OS that doesn't even allow you to create directories, all files are in root, I shit you not. Oh and an AS/400 is a huge mainframe that supports terminals.Not saying they aren't cool or anything. But being able to rebuild the engine in a 69 camaro wouldn't mean you knew anything about a dual turbo dodge stealth engine. Different technology.
Short Answer Having experience in coding for really old mainframes does not make you experienced in the respect that you could build your own computer
I knew CS PHDs that couldn't tell you anything about what hardware would be best to build your computer with, or what processor motherboard combo is a good idea. They ussually buy pre built computers because they're too lazy to learn.
Unless they are young, than they go linux, because lets face it, if your a young college programmer, linux is free and customizable, and kind of built for programmers. It's like a dream come true
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Assaulting someone with information is wrong in all situations, if you want something to change offer it as an idea, in a situation where the person can focus on that idea, and relay to you, the reasons it is good or bad. This isn't a matter of employee and boss, but human being to human being, in a civilized world.
but if that's hard to stand, I am sure Wendy's or some cheap tech job will always be happy to have you.
I see you posted that anonymously, go you, for exemplifying courage and conviction, bet you also leave nasty notes on peoples cars if you feel they parked wrong. I would have responded to your comment, but I think anonymous cowards should be removed from the group.
OK, your angry your boss appears less intelligent than you. I totally would have done it this way, as I ocassionally here as I walk around the office. But the point is, the manager doesn't need to give you information as to why he made his decision, it is none of your business, you work underneath him. He doesn't answer to you, it's the other way around. Superior people skills, he just BSed his way up there, ok, if that's what you think, or how it is in your company I am sorry.
No manager should be your buddy, I often see this at restaraunts where I get terrible service, the manager is flirting with the waitress, what the heck. Anyhow, a manager isn't around to be your friend or make you feel comfortable about his decisions, if he/she asks for your input, give it, otherwise, as is said to children, don't speak untill spoken to.
even managers, must understand there is a time to question and a time to not. Most employees don't understand this, if you have posed an either embarassing or off topic question in a meeting, I am sure the decision to keep you from being i management has already been decided.
I'll have you know, not only do we have a contract as such, but many other companies as well, such as Dana Corporation, the U.S. government, go to a recruiter station, bet they have Dells
Also, a fair amount of suggestions are horribly short sighted, or uninformed. Like, when IT suggest, well why don't we simply build systems in house for this job. Well because i have a contract with Dell saying I won't do that, and in return they cut the company a great deal on the other 300 pcs we have to buy and replace every couple of years, not to mention the parts and service waranties that automatically are updated to four hour on site, by having this contract.
We managers, in a finely tuned company, are supposed to have a better perspective of the whole than those under us, and I am not talking about operations managers, there just glorified paper pushers, essentially second lieutenants passing on orders from above and keeping track of payroll.
The employees have the view of a man in the field, as far as his eye can carry to the next hill.
front line managers, the lieutenants, at least get to stand on a hill, and see several of the hills in the battle, giving them the perpective of which of these hills to take.
middle management, Is far back, taking in all of the views of the liuetenants, and seeing the whole field, deciding which patches of the field to move the lietenants into.
Generals, upper management, are supposed to see the battle, like looking down from an aerial view, to see the whole countryside, and use their will and vision, to push the whole war in one direction or another.
This is how a company "should" function. Upper management has vision and direction with respect to the company in comparison to the outside world, middle management only sees enough of the outside world to understand the orders from above and how to carry them out, how to push that vision forward. Front line managers(operational), can't see the outside world, and only know the company, and of that they can see very little. The employees, they have their gun, their pack, and their told to charge up a hill, they see an easier hill to take to their left, and see many benefits to taking that hill in opposition of their orders and feel that their managers aren't making an appropriate decision, but that's only because they didn't know that the whole division just flanked left and their making it possible for the army to move forward as a whole.
sorry about all the millitary reference, but, I have a close connection to that kind of scenario.
Have a clue?
I have never seen a major corporation using a linux box as their router. And I have been in the systems room of several.
what was the process to install that open source driver to run OSX, sounds like a bit of tinkering, and I bet your G3 still isn't as quick as my box, also, what is an IT professional exactly? In your words anyhow.
post a link to your site, I want to see the site that took at least a 1000 hours to design
Ugh I hate this, I didn't claim I didn't ask a question, I said, how could I be right or wrong, I asked a question.
It seems even in your post of what I said, I stated I asked a question.
my point is, what is the point of this security if the port then stays open after the first connection.
You say I can specify, because of linux, is linux on my router? Is that what Cisco or Linksys has on my router? Most people don't use a pc running linux as their router, home users use linksys or d-link, and companies use Cisco routers.
I think we can agree that the internet started with BBS systems originally, well internet for the home anyhow. And BBS were all about, file sharing, information sharing, and other things while only giving a handle(alias), to the BBS. Sure they could keep phone records, just as ISPs keep IP records, but I didn't need to make my personal information available to the public.
Ummm...this article is on slashdot, do you think hackers will honestly look at a closed port computer and move on? It'll be like a quest to be the first guy to hack the port knock. Also you wouldn't have all your ports closed, don't you still want your email server to recieve email, or your webserver to be able to be visited anonymously, or your ftp server? And yes I have an FTP server that I allow anonymous connections to, because I keep files like builds of linux, and some other stuff on it, that I don't mind sharing out.
well that's pretty much the full upload speed with a standard DSL connection 256 kbps, granted, it is only half but remember, there is wrapping around that 130kbps, plus, you may actually want to use your internet connection for more than just your chat session, like I usually do work or other stuff at home while IMing or talking on my phone.
Also, how could I be right or wrong, I asked a question. Also you didn't answer if it had a way of allowing that port to be open for just the IP using it, otherwise the port would have to appear open, because it is open.
we let them have some say in DNS regulation, makes sense you don't want a billion people using the same domain name, or different DNS solutions giving different IP information. But they dont' need to know my real name when I register a DNS, there is no need whatsoever. If they have problems with traffic coming from a webserver, that has nothing to do with who is, they can simply back trace the IP address to its ISP and subpoena my data. Which will be correct for billing purposes. So as I said before this will just help the government and corporations get information they want without having to go through with due process.
where do you work, I don't have that many malicious attacks at home or at work, my router reports about 38 possible attacks a night, but the majority of these are actually just bad packets or things that weren't malicious in intent, but there was just some bad hardware somewhere.
I think your right though this is so that, now instead of getting civily sued by the RIAA they can also tack on some kind of Felony because of fraud.
This will make the scare tactic better and then when the notice comes to your door, it's 4 years imprisonment and a felony on your record or settle out of court for 3000$ and then they prosicute you criminally anyhow. Lets stop making laws and start enforcing the ones we have.
i always thought that the point of the internet or one of them was anonymnity. Lets face it, it's only anonymous from people that don't want to get a subpoena. If the courts wanted your real information, they trace the IP, find the ISP your using to host your site, then get your info that way. This is just a way for the RIAA to get your information without having to go through the proper legal channels.
Also it's hard to look at Scully porn right down the hallway from your parents bedroom
Also I restate, if your such a hardware god, why on earth did you own a dell.
what did you build for apple? Why were you a programmer, CS major, then a hardware developer, EE or CE. Did you get some kind of 8 year degree or something? are you now in your late 50s, if you have 20 years experience. How do I know your not just full of shit?
your slashdot number of 614605 is kind of large for someone who has been in the industry for nearly as long as I've been alive.
Why did you switch from working on IBM machines to Apple? Did you just not like making tons of money being an AS/400 programmer/developer.
I don't use foo.com, I use newegg actually. And I wasn't using my ability to build a computer as a source of pride, I was more saying, it's so simple any idiot should be able to build it.
Back to Dell, why did you own one? Why didn't you build your own PC?
you entirely skipped my point, I dind't say it wouldn't be secure, I said it would be irritating for me as the admin, when people tried to crack it. your Reasons 1) 2) and 3) are just the reasons why they would try even harder and annoy me even more.
well VOIP is 52Kbps standard, for decent quality, and that's with Ciscos VOIP technology, so lets see, real time encoding and decoding of voice, plus video at probably 300 Kbps real time encoding and Decoding, most people nither have the system nor the broadband connection to support this well.
RANDOMGEEKYSLASHDOTTER:"No actually your an idiot sea sickness comes from,blah blah blah, I am a sea sickness expert at company I can't name cause i am actually a teenage kid in my moms basement"
Preparing to get modded off topic
Plus the fact that your argument was based on the idea that you purchased a Dell tells me you didn't read what I wrote. I built my machine. Not purchased a dell. Hence why I said for experienced computer users, because no computer savvy person would ever buy a Dell. Not because it is a bad system, but because price per pound you can always build a better system yourself.
By the way folks, for those of you that don't know what a 3090 is, it's an IBM system that runs on an OS that doesn't even allow you to create directories, all files are in root, I shit you not. Oh and an AS/400 is a huge mainframe that supports terminals.Not saying they aren't cool or anything. But being able to rebuild the engine in a 69 camaro wouldn't mean you knew anything about a dual turbo dodge stealth engine. Different technology.
Short Answer Having experience in coding for really old mainframes does not make you experienced in the respect that you could build your own computer
I knew CS PHDs that couldn't tell you anything about what hardware would be best to build your computer with, or what processor motherboard combo is a good idea. They ussually buy pre built computers because they're too lazy to learn.
Unless they are young, than they go linux, because lets face it, if your a young college programmer, linux is free and customizable, and kind of built for programmers. It's like a dream come true