Show me one case where three cores melted down in the same week, within 500 meters of each other. One. There isn't any. This is a new thing and we don't know what's in it.
Point of order: you just admitted that the temperature in Greenland during the prior interglacial was on average 5C higher than now. Am I just supposed to forget that here on slashdot where you can't delete or edit your comment you said that? 5C is really huge. It's like 10x the entire global warming thing. If the Greenland temp was that high, the rest of the world could not have been much cooler. What have you done?
What part of "these mountains have not been ice-free for millions of years" is confusing you? Was that not clear enough? Did I need some exclamation marks? If you need them, here they are:
"Alfred E Newman", "Anybody but this collection of fucktards" and "No" are still available write-in options. Also "Potatoe" for those of a classical bend.
I'm probably not saying it right. I tried to be a good student. These guys took me to school. I'm not qualified to teach you why you're wrong, but you are. The sum of your ignorance is not knowlege, except about the depth of your ignorance. And mine.
A physicist would tell you that finding the fuel there is about as likely as finding it a half kilometer down. Corium gets really fucking hot. Melt through anything hot. That's what they mean by "China syndrome".
Indirect Toynbee tile reference. +1 for the reference, +1 for subtlety. I don't get mod points any more for some obsure reason, so this is what I can do.
That's not how ice ages work. You dip below the minimum temp and the high albedo of glaciers does the rest for 80,000 years. The temperature literally drops so swiftly that the corpse of a wooly mammoth can be found frozen 80,000 years later in a glacier with undigested daisies in his belly.
There is a considerable difference between "significantly less ice on it" and "mostly ice free". Greenland has mountains of considerable height, and these mountains have not been ice-free for millions of years. Which doesn't serve your initial argument particularly well. Greenland has now a huge ice load it didn't have 15,000 years ago. It's accumulated over this time to the point it's deforming the crust, and now it's melting - but it wasn't there 15,000 years ago. It is perhaps the precursor of what will happen to us if our interglacial era of the current ice-age comes to an end.
Now whether Greenland being ice-free or not is a good thing may vary depending on the scope of your history awareness.
Obviously before these glaciers formed there was a robust ecosystem in Greenland that the glaciers killed - within the span of human history. There may have been an advanced human civilization, or at least a whole ecosystem with insects, mammals and birds. Were there Lemmings that did not survive, or did they migrate to somewhere else? We know there were humans that didn't. We can't be too sure about what went early on, because kilometer-high glaciers have a way of scraping away evidence of prior civilizations. For certain there was a verdant, vibrant ecosystem the glaciers laid waste to, and even scraped the evidence of from the earth on their march to the sea.
So once upon a (recent) time the continent of Greenland was arable land, and might be again. I don't have a problem with that, even if it costs us South Florida.
We will overflow the petri dish regardless of environmental conditions. We are life, and we breed to the limits of available resources like all life does. Intelligence does not seem to supercede this primitive nature of life to consume all available resources and then die for lack of resources. The only hope seems to be to escape the dish.
LOIC has a javascript implementation where you can load a seemingly innocent page and then go to bed. Your browser will then hammer the affected sites 100,000 times an hour - and it's not your fault - because you can't be expected to know that a simple page can do that.
If you're holding out for a candidate that's not "fucking crazy" or "internet ignorant" I'm afraid you're going to have to set this election season out. Probably the next few too.
With the javascript implementation you would have to prove that the browser user was deliberately participating rather than innocently exploited while viewing a completely innocent page. Good luck with that.
The fun's not over. You can still crash a default Windows 7 install that's not protected by NAT or a firewall in seconds, and sometimes remotely administer it. IPv6 will undo the NAT and firewall protections by making all boxen universally addressable, and the fun will begin again.
My goodness. I pass within a few feet of maximum mean sea level every day on my way to work. In fact, my office is less than 100 feet above that. When is this 100' wall of water due? I need to email the CEO about moving our office, and need to know when to hitch the jetski trailer to my truck on the way to work. Please advise, with sources.
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Show me one case where three cores melted down in the same week, within 500 meters of each other. One. There isn't any. This is a new thing and we don't know what's in it.
Point of order: you just admitted that the temperature in Greenland during the prior interglacial was on average 5C higher than now. Am I just supposed to forget that here on slashdot where you can't delete or edit your comment you said that? 5C is really huge. It's like 10x the entire global warming thing. If the Greenland temp was that high, the rest of the world could not have been much cooler. What have you done?
What part of "these mountains have not been ice-free for millions of years" is confusing you? Was that not clear enough? Did I need some exclamation marks? If you need them, here they are:
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"Alfred E Newman", "Anybody but this collection of fucktards" and "No" are still available write-in options. Also "Potatoe" for those of a classical bend.
I'm probably not saying it right. I tried to be a good student. These guys took me to school. I'm not qualified to teach you why you're wrong, but you are. The sum of your ignorance is not knowlege, except about the depth of your ignorance. And mine.
So if your error is 90% of the measurement, by aggregating them you know less than you knew before!
It can get worse. And it will.
A physicist would tell you that finding the fuel there is about as likely as finding it a half kilometer down. Corium gets really fucking hot. Melt through anything hot. That's what they mean by "China syndrome".
"the conviction was vacated on appeal."
Do you know what these words mean?
Indirect Toynbee tile reference. +1 for the reference, +1 for subtlety. I don't get mod points any more for some obsure reason, so this is what I can do.
I find your sig somehow appropriate to your comment. Perhaps that was unintentional, but it gave me a smile.
That's not how ice ages work. You dip below the minimum temp and the high albedo of glaciers does the rest for 80,000 years. The temperature literally drops so swiftly that the corpse of a wooly mammoth can be found frozen 80,000 years later in a glacier with undigested daisies in his belly.
That's what scares me about the high-albedo glacier thing, yes.
There is a considerable difference between "significantly less ice on it" and "mostly ice free". Greenland has mountains of considerable height, and these mountains have not been ice-free for millions of years. Which doesn't serve your initial argument particularly well. Greenland has now a huge ice load it didn't have 15,000 years ago. It's accumulated over this time to the point it's deforming the crust, and now it's melting - but it wasn't there 15,000 years ago. It is perhaps the precursor of what will happen to us if our interglacial era of the current ice-age comes to an end.
Now whether Greenland being ice-free or not is a good thing may vary depending on the scope of your history awareness.
Obviously before these glaciers formed there was a robust ecosystem in Greenland that the glaciers killed - within the span of human history. There may have been an advanced human civilization, or at least a whole ecosystem with insects, mammals and birds. Were there Lemmings that did not survive, or did they migrate to somewhere else? We know there were humans that didn't. We can't be too sure about what went early on, because kilometer-high glaciers have a way of scraping away evidence of prior civilizations. For certain there was a verdant, vibrant ecosystem the glaciers laid waste to, and even scraped the evidence of from the earth on their march to the sea.
So once upon a (recent) time the continent of Greenland was arable land, and might be again. I don't have a problem with that, even if it costs us South Florida.
We will overflow the petri dish regardless of environmental conditions. We are life, and we breed to the limits of available resources like all life does. Intelligence does not seem to supercede this primitive nature of life to consume all available resources and then die for lack of resources. The only hope seems to be to escape the dish.
Then where did 10,000 years of glacial growth come from?
Making the petri dish more comfortable doesn't seem like a good method of sterilization.
And yet temperatures are not escaping to infinity like we were told they would - even though CO2 emissions have not diminished at all.
LOIC has a javascript implementation where you can load a seemingly innocent page and then go to bed. Your browser will then hammer the affected sites 100,000 times an hour - and it's not your fault - because you can't be expected to know that a simple page can do that.
If you're holding out for a candidate that's not "fucking crazy" or "internet ignorant" I'm afraid you're going to have to set this election season out. Probably the next few too.
With the javascript implementation you would have to prove that the browser user was deliberately participating rather than innocently exploited while viewing a completely innocent page. Good luck with that.
The fun's not over. You can still crash a default Windows 7 install that's not protected by NAT or a firewall in seconds, and sometimes remotely administer it. IPv6 will undo the NAT and firewall protections by making all boxen universally addressable, and the fun will begin again.
My goodness. I pass within a few feet of maximum mean sea level every day on my way to work. In fact, my office is less than 100 feet above that. When is this 100' wall of water due? I need to email the CEO about moving our office, and need to know when to hitch the jetski trailer to my truck on the way to work. Please advise, with sources.
Why it's getting warmer is the next thread down. Here we're arguing about whether or not avoiding an ice age is a bad thing.
For me and mine, I'm opposed to Snowball Earth. It's hard to grow crops on a glacier, and we've got a lot of mouths to feed.
This statement is not true for varying definitions of "significantly".