They put their profits into humanitarian endeavors.
Also known as tax write-offs, free PR, expanding marketshare, or setting an agenda. Like when Microsoft gets press for giving away "millions" in software to schools, or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation backs Common Core, which is part of turning public education into a profit center.
You obviously have to clue what is actually the case here, with this corporation.
Watching out for falling shards of glass when throwing rocks. Hobby Lobby is invested in the pharmaceutical companies that makes these drugs, imports most of their products from mandatory-abortion China, and like any Christofascist group, doesn't give a rat's ass that IFV clinics throw away far more fertilized embryos than have ever been denied implantation via Plan B.
Individuals can be sued of fraud or criminal intent can be proven, not matter what protection the corporation has for it's assets.
In theory - but in practice that's a joke. No executives have gone to jail or personally finned for blowing up that fertilizer plant, dumping oil all over the gulf, toxic chemicals into that river in West Virginia, Countrywide from stealing people's homes, or the major banks for crashing the economy.
It's someone's choice to work there as well as someone's choice to offer them a job.
Yes, that's the self-contradicting right-wing storyline. Contradicting, because every right winger well tell you it's your god given responsibility to go out and get a job. Which means it's not a choice.
Personal responsibility. Some don't believe in it, they think it's the Government's job to use your money and mine to help people who aren't capable of engaging in it.
And some people know that's irrelevant Randian whining in when the subject is health insurance that is a part of an employees compensation.
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Translation: you don't actually have a response, so you're going to troll instead.
Last time I checked you can't cure AIDS with a visit to the abortion clinic....
Last time I checked, you aren't going to get AIDS in a monogamous relationship after you've both been tested, troll.
Then you're an evil, greedy person who wants the poor to pay a higher percentage of their meager incomes, while you pay less despite getting more out of taxpayer funded services. The Income Tax is by far the most fair form of taxation ever devised.
because it is predicated on the absurd idea that it makes sense for people to get their health insurance from their employer
Calling that absurd is absurd when it's how most people in the U.S. get their health insurance. Whereas no one is forced to eat bacon sandwiches, or whatever other nonsense you've decided to cook up.
It was his comments that set it off, and his comments were no different than those expressed by Obama and Clinton (both) over the years. The difference is that he's an evil "conservative" and they're "Democrats".
Right, don't let hard facts about donations get in the way of a good false equivalency. And I say that as a person who spent years trashing Obama for his homophobia and broken promises.
Obama--for all of his many problems--has done more than any other president to support equal protection under law for people who are LGBT.
By likening homosexuality to bestiality in federal court? Obama had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into supporting some of his campaign promises on LGBT rights. It wasn't until boycotts of his re-election campaign started to take off before he decided to get off his ass and....sign legislation passed by Congress.
I'm a gay man. I give to groups promoting atheism because I consider Christianity to be immoral. Are you going to persecute me as well in the name of tolerance?
Then you're a gay man with a pathetic attempt at a false equivalency. However, as a gay man, you would have faced bigotry for your sexuality, with a good chunk of that bigotry based on religion, and thus wouldn't try to pull stupid BS like pretending atheism is equivalent to Christianist nonsense. So it's more likely that you're a heterosexual troll.
IMO, this whole fuss on Plan B is kind of a crock. It costs about $50 at a drug store
Your crock. First, because health insurance is a part of an employee's compensation, so you're asking them to double pay. Secondly, because $50 might make the difference between having a place to stay next month or getting an eviction notice. And skip the Puritanical abstinence response, since that's another crock in itself.
If keeping a fertilized egg from emplanting is "abortion", then why isn't Operation Rescue trying to shut down IVF clinics, since they throw away tens of thousands of unused fertilized eggs in the trash.
A significant minority of men then fail to contribute to those expenses.
And the vast majority of those men are behind because they are unable, not unwilling to pay. Same thing for non-custodial mothers behind on their child support payments.
And contrary to the previous poster's statement which you seem to think is correct, this is not about anyone telling you what health care services you can have.
Of course it is, for people of limited means. Which applies to most of Hobby Lobby's workers, since they don't get paid much.
It is about the government forcing someone to violate their faith.
Bullshit: 1) Hobby Lobby was fine with covering these meds before it was mandatory 2) They're invested in the pharmaceutical companies selling said meds 3) All their products come from China with it's mandatory abortions 4) Arguing you have the right to to mess around with other people's lives, cuz religion, is always bullshit, whether it's contraceptives, gay rights, or segregation.
You can still have all the abortions you want, you can still have all the birth control you want.
While having to double pay for it, since health insurance is part of your compensation. Hobby Lobby is still happy to cover Viagra and vasectomies, though.
It seems your problems with religion has clouded your thought process to the point you cannot see logic. Maybe it is time to step back and take a deep breath.
Maybe you could stop being a dumbass for five seconds. Under the same logic in this ruling, if your company is owned by Jehovah's Witnesses, they could deny you coverage for blood transfusions. Or if you work for a Scientologist, any kind of psychiatric medication. Of course, SCOTUS tied themselves into pretzels to avoid that exact sort of outcome, which means they're favoring one religious sect over another, which means this is all buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit.
The law requires the government to make an effort to avoid forcing people to do things they object to religiously.
And the Scientologists have just as sincere objections to mental health care.
If you actually read the court decision, instead of spewing forth ignorant inanity, then you'll find the answer. It's a fairly well designed two-part test
It's the most nakedly bullshit ruling from a bunch of partisan hacks since Bush v Gore. They carved out a ruling for a very specific set of "sincere beliefs" while the rest can pound sand. Until JW's and Scientologists and Christian Scientists start filing their own cases based on the same "sincere beliefs" standard the Court just laid out, and the whole mess becomes an even bigger farce than it already is.
But no need for you to worry about it. Go on shopping at Hobby Lobby, where 99.9999% of their products come from the People's Republic of Force Abortions in China.
So what might have cost a family (then) $50/mo, would cost the company $25/mo.
That and it creates a barrier for employees to freely move between jobs, when you have to wait six months for your next insurance to kick in, fight with the insurance company for pre-existing conditions, etc. Which makes it easier to take employees for granted, or even abuse them.
No it doesn't......the court decision is fairly clear why this reducto ad absurdum would be ruled out under the law.
Nothing absurd about it. Either companies owned by Jehovah's Witnesses are free to deny blood transfusions for their "sincerely held beliefs", or one religious sect is getting blatant favoritism over others, something the 1st Amendment was supposed to prevent.
Pay for your own Plan B. This decision doesn't take that away.
Health insurance is part of an employee's compensation. You're asking the employee to pay for their medication twice - unlike the corporate stooges with their Viagra.
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Also known as tax write-offs, free PR, expanding marketshare, or setting an agenda. Like when Microsoft gets press for giving away "millions" in software to schools, or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation backs Common Core, which is part of turning public education into a profit center.
Watching out for falling shards of glass when throwing rocks. Hobby Lobby is invested in the pharmaceutical companies that makes these drugs, imports most of their products from mandatory-abortion China, and like any Christofascist group, doesn't give a rat's ass that IFV clinics throw away far more fertilized embryos than have ever been denied implantation via Plan B.
Boring straw man is boring.
In theory - but in practice that's a joke. No executives have gone to jail or personally finned for blowing up that fertilizer plant, dumping oil all over the gulf, toxic chemicals into that river in West Virginia, Countrywide from stealing people's homes, or the major banks for crashing the economy.
Health insurance is part of a employees compensation, so take that Randian bullshit somewhere else.
Repeating Big Lies doesn't make them true, it just makes the person repeating it a bigger liar.
Yes, that's the self-contradicting right-wing storyline. Contradicting, because every right winger well tell you it's your god given responsibility to go out and get a job. Which means it's not a choice.
Because $5 out of your payday is the same thing as $400 out of your payday, when you're living paycheck to paycheck.
And some people know that's irrelevant Randian whining in when the subject is health insurance that is a part of an employees compensation.
Translation: you don't actually have a response, so you're going to troll instead.
Last time I checked, you aren't going to get AIDS in a monogamous relationship after you've both been tested, troll.
Then you're an evil, greedy person who wants the poor to pay a higher percentage of their meager incomes, while you pay less despite getting more out of taxpayer funded services. The Income Tax is by far the most fair form of taxation ever devised.
Your analogies were crap, deal.
Calling that absurd is absurd when it's how most people in the U.S. get their health insurance. Whereas no one is forced to eat bacon sandwiches, or whatever other nonsense you've decided to cook up.
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Right, don't let hard facts about donations get in the way of a good false equivalency. And I say that as a person who spent years trashing Obama for his homophobia and broken promises.
By likening homosexuality to bestiality in federal court? Obama had to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into supporting some of his campaign promises on LGBT rights. It wasn't until boycotts of his re-election campaign started to take off before he decided to get off his ass and....sign legislation passed by Congress.
Then you're a gay man with a pathetic attempt at a false equivalency. However, as a gay man, you would have faced bigotry for your sexuality, with a good chunk of that bigotry based on religion, and thus wouldn't try to pull stupid BS like pretending atheism is equivalent to Christianist nonsense. So it's more likely that you're a heterosexual troll.
Other than giving large sums of money to homophobic organizations to block gay rights.
You were saying?
Good thing that's just a straw man, then.
Your crock. First, because health insurance is a part of an employee's compensation, so you're asking them to double pay. Secondly, because $50 might make the difference between having a place to stay next month or getting an eviction notice. And skip the Puritanical abstinence response, since that's another crock in itself.
tl;dr version:
If keeping a fertilized egg from emplanting is "abortion", then why isn't Operation Rescue trying to shut down IVF clinics, since they throw away tens of thousands of unused fertilized eggs in the trash.
And the vast majority of those men are behind because they are unable, not unwilling to pay. Same thing for non-custodial mothers behind on their child support payments.
Of course it is, for people of limited means. Which applies to most of Hobby Lobby's workers, since they don't get paid much.
Bullshit:
1) Hobby Lobby was fine with covering these meds before it was mandatory
2) They're invested in the pharmaceutical companies selling said meds
3) All their products come from China with it's mandatory abortions
4) Arguing you have the right to to mess around with other people's lives, cuz religion, is always bullshit, whether it's contraceptives, gay rights, or segregation.
While having to double pay for it, since health insurance is part of your compensation. Hobby Lobby is still happy to cover Viagra and vasectomies, though.
Maybe you could stop being a dumbass for five seconds. Under the same logic in this ruling, if your company is owned by Jehovah's Witnesses, they could deny you coverage for blood transfusions. Or if you work for a Scientologist, any kind of psychiatric medication. Of course, SCOTUS tied themselves into pretzels to avoid that exact sort of outcome, which means they're favoring one religious sect over another, which means this is all buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit.
Since health insurance is part of an employee's compensation, that person seems to be you.
And the Scientologists have just as sincere objections to mental health care.
It's the most nakedly bullshit ruling from a bunch of partisan hacks since Bush v Gore. They carved out a ruling for a very specific set of "sincere beliefs" while the rest can pound sand. Until JW's and Scientologists and Christian Scientists start filing their own cases based on the same "sincere beliefs" standard the Court just laid out, and the whole mess becomes an even bigger farce than it already is.
But no need for you to worry about it. Go on shopping at Hobby Lobby, where 99.9999% of their products come from the People's Republic of Force Abortions in China.
That and it creates a barrier for employees to freely move between jobs, when you have to wait six months for your next insurance to kick in, fight with the insurance company for pre-existing conditions, etc. Which makes it easier to take employees for granted, or even abuse them.
Nothing absurd about it. Either companies owned by Jehovah's Witnesses are free to deny blood transfusions for their "sincerely held beliefs", or one religious sect is getting blatant favoritism over others, something the 1st Amendment was supposed to prevent.
Pick one.
Stop with the willful obtuseness.
Health insurance is part of an employee's compensation. You're asking the employee to pay for their medication twice - unlike the corporate stooges with their Viagra.