As someone who's been a salaried employee for over 30 yrs, I don't think I've ever witnessed the abuse you're claiming. Not that it doesn't happen, but then nothing is keeping those employees from leaving when it does.
f you seriously think the current American workforce can fill the positions that many of the H1-B Visas are taking, you have not been involved in any significant tech hiring in the last few years. My company is only moderately competitive and we have been almost totally unable to find competent engineers to hire in the last year...
You're delusional. I frequently am involved in hiring for one of the largest engineering firms in the country, and we we usually end up with multiple candidates for positions. If you need H1-Bs, you're just trying to get cheap labor, or flat out not posting jobs. Your comment is utter bullshit.
Nobody said anything about them being buddies except you. But, you can't beat corporations into the ground, and expect that it's good for the country. Figuring out what the best tax rate is to get corporations to provide the most jobs and products, and have the best GNP possible is an example of what was meant. Government can work with business, but must always have the final say.
I'd be fine with it if it were automated. But if it requires more government workers, I'm generally opposed. I've been around enough government slugs to know that most of them are just glorified welfare recipients.
I'm with the parent on this, graduating 8 yrs earlier, learning metric in Detroit public schools. If your schools were worse than Detroit's, you really should get a refund of your tax dollars.
Are you familiar with the difference between hourly and salaried employees? Professionals aren't clock watchers. There are plenty of laws on the books to cover this.
That worked well for them when they got the answers they wanted, right? Yeah, they got answers, and the companies played the game of telling them what they felt like. Yes, they can be "forced" to reply, but they didn't have to give the correct/accurate/truthful answer.
I think we're pretty much in agreement. I'd like to add that in order to get to the desired state, we'll have to simplify the tax code. It could be flat or tiered for income, and profit levels...I don't care. But that would help remove the huge money wasting bureaucracy that the IRS has become, along with a few million lobbyists, CPAs, and tax attorneys, all of whom produce nothing useful.
but for anyone defending this tax avoidance as "fair": corporations are not made from the loins of a single "captain of industry" standing all alone. please understand the difference between low iq fantasy and reality. corporations exist because of the benefits of a stable secure society that allows them to be created and to grow. those benefits need to be paid for. corporations need to be contribute their share. especially if we want to make believe they are "people" as some philosopher-morons insist
I'd take the position that what is best for any nation is more of a symbiotic relationship with corporations. This is because while the nation provides the benefits you stated, that nation couldn't do so without the support of corporations...products and jobs. The determination of a "fair" taxation rate will never end, but it should be based upon what is best for the nation as a whole...what rate provides the most jobs, GNP, etc., and makes us the most competitive globally.
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I think it describes it nicely:
interaction between two different organisms living in close physical association, typically to the advantage of both.
As someone who's been a salaried employee for over 30 yrs, I don't think I've ever witnessed the abuse you're claiming. Not that it doesn't happen, but then nothing is keeping those employees from leaving when it does.
we are all immigrants
Baby, I was born this way.
That may be the fully burdened cost of one, but not a salary.
135,991 in were issued in FY2012
Actually, they do. It's just that the one you hear most often in the media is not. The BLS does report those numbers though.
f you seriously think the current American workforce can fill the positions that many of the H1-B Visas are taking, you have not been involved in any significant tech hiring in the last few years. My company is only moderately competitive and we have been almost totally unable to find competent engineers to hire in the last year...
You're delusional. I frequently am involved in hiring for one of the largest engineering firms in the country, and we we usually end up with multiple candidates for positions. If you need H1-Bs, you're just trying to get cheap labor, or flat out not posting jobs. Your comment is utter bullshit.
Classic AC troll reasoning.
I'm guessing this one's the local union steward
Nobody said anything about them being buddies except you. But, you can't beat corporations into the ground, and expect that it's good for the country. Figuring out what the best tax rate is to get corporations to provide the most jobs and products, and have the best GNP possible is an example of what was meant. Government can work with business, but must always have the final say.
I'd be fine with it if it were automated. But if it requires more government workers, I'm generally opposed. I've been around enough government slugs to know that most of them are just glorified welfare recipients.
I'm with the parent on this, graduating 8 yrs earlier, learning metric in Detroit public schools. If your schools were worse than Detroit's, you really should get a refund of your tax dollars.
If you can't do the conversion in your head, you need to turn in your geek card.
Are you familiar with the difference between hourly and salaried employees? Professionals aren't clock watchers. There are plenty of laws on the books to cover this.
Pro tip 2: Always ask for more than you really are willing to accept. Just don't overdo it, or you may be seen as having unrealistic expectations.
How did that work out for Eric Holder and Lois Lerner, both of whom have been found in contempt?
That worked well for them when they got the answers they wanted, right? Yeah, they got answers, and the companies played the game of telling them what they felt like. Yes, they can be "forced" to reply, but they didn't have to give the correct/accurate/truthful answer.
Fascism requires an authoritarian government. I wasn't in any way suggesting that. And, I also didn't suggest Corporatism.
I think we're pretty much in agreement. I'd like to add that in order to get to the desired state, we'll have to simplify the tax code. It could be flat or tiered for income, and profit levels...I don't care. But that would help remove the huge money wasting bureaucracy that the IRS has become, along with a few million lobbyists, CPAs, and tax attorneys, all of whom produce nothing useful.
Damnit, I should have read the comments before posting about the aqueduct.
Maybe California can make an aqueduct.
but for anyone defending this tax avoidance as "fair": corporations are not made from the loins of a single "captain of industry" standing all alone. please understand the difference between low iq fantasy and reality. corporations exist because of the benefits of a stable secure society that allows them to be created and to grow. those benefits need to be paid for. corporations need to be contribute their share. especially if we want to make believe they are "people" as some philosopher-morons insist
I'd take the position that what is best for any nation is more of a symbiotic relationship with corporations. This is because while the nation provides the benefits you stated, that nation couldn't do so without the support of corporations...products and jobs. The determination of a "fair" taxation rate will never end, but it should be based upon what is best for the nation as a whole...what rate provides the most jobs, GNP, etc., and makes us the most competitive globally.
It's either legal, or it's not. If it's not illegal, calling it abuse is inaccurate.
Where do you see anything on them misreporting, or charges of fraud?
No, they were not hauled or forced. Did they come and answer questions reluctantly? Sure, but can we drop the hyperbole?