Around the time Hiroshima was bombed, the bombing strategists figured out that bombing the railroad system would be a very effective strategy. If the war had gone on a few weeks longer and they'd destroyed the railyards, millions of Japanese would have starved that winter. As it was, even with relatively intact railroads and massive US help, several hundred thousand starved.
The strategic bombing campaign over Germany happened over a few years. The bombing campaign over Japan had only started a few months earlier, and really only started happening in a big way when LeMay took over and firebombed Tokyo.
Odd, I've never had a problem sleeping knowing that a hostile power somewhere has an ICBM trained on the city I live in. Must be because I also know we have ICBMs trained on all their cities.
If I don't sleep soundly, it's because of the pepperoni pizza.
I believe it's the oil wealth that is a corrupting influence. The theocracies and tyrannies of the Middle East countries are propped up by oil money. The same thing happened with Catholicism in Spain when they were exploiting all the unearned wealth of the New World.
It only takes one side wanting a fight for there to be a fight. It takes two sides wanting peace for there to be peace. That is why there will always be war.
BTW, how exactly *do* you deal with it if the reason is "they just want to kill you"?
The reason the Saudi terrorists resorted to violence: US put bases in SA to defend against possible attack by Iraq. Up till that point, to Osama the US was just somebody giving him Stingers to kill Russians. Well, those bases are being vacated, because no threat by Iraq exists now.
Sounds like we've at least got a start on their reasons for resorting to violence.
You want to know who's trying to kill everyone who isn't like them? Here's a big hint: It's not the Americans.
The A-Bomb saved a *hell* of a lot of Japanese lives.
About the time we dropped the bomb, the Army Air Corp decided to focus on the Japanese railway system (they'd noticed massive Japanese deployments to Kyushu, the southernmost islands, in a buildup against the US landings). Because the war ended when it did, they didn't hit it that bad. If they'd finished taking out the railroads, *millions* of Japanese would have died from famine, even if the Japanese surrendered only a few weeks later than when they did. As it was, only a few hundred thousand Japanese died of starvation and related disease.
Massive amounts of US grain started going to Japan after McCarthur pointed out to the US Congress, who had the attitude "let them starve", that we'd just executed a bunch of Japanese for war crimes for having the same attitude about *their* occupied peoples.
Because of the US, only half of Europe had fascism replaced by communism at the end of the war instead of the whole frickin' continent. I'd consider that decisive. Or do you really think there'd be much of a difference between a Europe ruled by Hitler or one ruled by Stalin?
You do know that at the beginning of WWII Germany and the USSR were allied?
I eat at a restaurant with waiters once or twice a week. Most of the time I eat at home or get fast food. Hardly a "slave" to a tipping culture.
Tell your waiter you're not going to tip him when you first get seated. Otherwise, you're leeching off his supposition that you're a "slave" to the tipping culture.
Let me guess, you rationalize downloading mp3s the same way, right?
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That's the one big advantage of throwaway boosters and capsules - it's easy to make incremental improvements.
The last LEM stayed on the moon much longer than the first one, had many more experiments, had a rover, and brought back a *lot* more rocks.
The neat thing about a tether is that if is is conductive (or has a conductive component) you can push current through it; a current loop will form that will interact with the Earth's magnetic field like an electric motor.
The tether experiment they tried on the shuttle a few years back was to examine using this effect to change orbits. The electric flow had a surge and fried the conductor, though, as I recall.
You could also reverse the effect and sacrifice orbital velocity for electricity, which could come in handy if you occasionally need to do some high-energy process in orbit.
Wow. An accident 32 years ago, and another 36 years ago, not one since. The shuttle *design* hadn't even been started the last time there was a death due to a capsule problem.
They brought back a satellite once. But it would have been cheaper to just send up a replacement.
There was also the Long Duration Exposure Facility, but it could have been easily designed to fold up into its own re-entry pod.
Never did figure out why you'd want to spend 10,000 bucks a pound to put stuff into orbit, and then bring it back down again a few weeks later. Why put up shuttle with a SpaceLab when you can take up a space station science module instead?
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Around the time Hiroshima was bombed, the bombing strategists figured out that bombing the railroad system would be a very effective strategy. If the war had gone on a few weeks longer and they'd destroyed the railyards, millions of Japanese would have starved that winter. As it was, even with relatively intact railroads and massive US help, several hundred thousand starved.
The strategic bombing campaign over Germany happened over a few years. The bombing campaign over Japan had only started a few months earlier, and really only started happening in a big way when LeMay took over and firebombed Tokyo.
Odd, I've never had a problem sleeping knowing that a hostile power somewhere has an ICBM trained on the city I live in. Must be because I also know we have ICBMs trained on all their cities.
If I don't sleep soundly, it's because of the pepperoni pizza.
I'm curious, just who exactly are these millions of people Dr. Teller helped to kill?
I believe it's the oil wealth that is a corrupting influence. The theocracies and tyrannies of the Middle East countries are propped up by oil money. The same thing happened with Catholicism in Spain when they were exploiting all the unearned wealth of the New World.
Yeah, it's funny how people who've actually lived under tyranny really, really, really hate it.
US H-Bombs are about 1 megaton. Biggest one ever shot off was a Soviet one about 58 megatons. I think the largest US one tested was about 20 megatons.
It only takes one side wanting a fight for there to be a fight. It takes two sides wanting peace for there to be peace. That is why there will always be war.
BTW, how exactly *do* you deal with it if the reason is "they just want to kill you"?
Why don't you add private contributions to that, chief? I'm sure the Europeans could match *that* if they weren't taxed out the wazoo.
And it's an extremely safe bet to make that privately given money helps people a hell of a lot more than govt aid.
The reason the Saudi terrorists resorted to violence: US put bases in SA to defend against possible attack by Iraq. Up till that point, to Osama the US was just somebody giving him Stingers to kill Russians. Well, those bases are being vacated, because no threat by Iraq exists now.
Sounds like we've at least got a start on their reasons for resorting to violence.
You want to know who's trying to kill everyone who isn't like them? Here's a big hint: It's not the Americans.
The A-Bomb saved a *hell* of a lot of Japanese lives.
About the time we dropped the bomb, the Army Air Corp decided to focus on the Japanese railway system (they'd noticed massive Japanese deployments to Kyushu, the southernmost islands, in a buildup against the US landings). Because the war ended when it did, they didn't hit it that bad. If they'd finished taking out the railroads, *millions* of Japanese would have died from famine, even if the Japanese surrendered only a few weeks later than when they did. As it was, only a few hundred thousand Japanese died of starvation and related disease.
Massive amounts of US grain started going to Japan after McCarthur pointed out to the US Congress, who had the attitude "let them starve", that we'd just executed a bunch of Japanese for war crimes for having the same attitude about *their* occupied peoples.
Hey, pacifism will work if *everyone* is a pacifist.
Once we get to that point, we just need to kill anyone who stops being a pacifist.
Because of the US, only half of Europe had fascism replaced by communism at the end of the war instead of the whole frickin' continent. I'd consider that decisive. Or do you really think there'd be much of a difference between a Europe ruled by Hitler or one ruled by Stalin?
You do know that at the beginning of WWII Germany and the USSR were allied?
Not to pick nits, but I think Asimov's family left Russia before the Russian Revolution, so he wasn't born in the Soviet Union ;)
I eat at a restaurant with waiters once or twice a week. Most of the time I eat at home or get fast food. Hardly a "slave" to a tipping culture.
Tell your waiter you're not going to tip him when you first get seated. Otherwise, you're leeching off his supposition that you're a "slave" to the tipping culture.
Let me guess, you rationalize downloading mp3s the same way, right?
That's the one big advantage of throwaway boosters and capsules - it's easy to make incremental improvements.
The last LEM stayed on the moon much longer than the first one, had many more experiments, had a rover, and brought back a *lot* more rocks.
It's a jab at the Eye-talians.
The neat thing about a tether is that if is is conductive (or has a conductive component) you can push current through it; a current loop will form that will interact with the Earth's magnetic field like an electric motor.
The tether experiment they tried on the shuttle a few years back was to examine using this effect to change orbits. The electric flow had a surge and fried the conductor, though, as I recall.
You could also reverse the effect and sacrifice orbital velocity for electricity, which could come in handy if you occasionally need to do some high-energy process in orbit.
How are those elections for the leaders of the EU coming along?
When it takes yerars for light to travel the distance.
If they can get the USS Cole onto a ship without a helicopter, I'm preeetttty sure they can get a capsule onto one.
They can custom-build a retrieval ship.
Wow. An accident 32 years ago, and another 36 years ago, not one since. The shuttle *design* hadn't even been started the last time there was a death due to a capsule problem.
Not to mention the fact that Russia didn't have any aircraft carriers at the time (I'm not even sure if they do now).
Fsckin' A, Bubba.
They brought back a satellite once. But it would have been cheaper to just send up a replacement.
There was also the Long Duration Exposure Facility, but it could have been easily designed to fold up into its own re-entry pod.
Never did figure out why you'd want to spend 10,000 bucks a pound to put stuff into orbit, and then bring it back down again a few weeks later. Why put up shuttle with a SpaceLab when you can take up a space station science module instead?
Apollo One wasn't even launching, it wasn't even preparing to launch. Hell, it wasn't even called Apollo One until after the accident.
You're right about the Russians losing returning capsules. The last time that happened was, oh, about 30 years ago.