As of what version of the BB OS? I was under the impression that you had to purchase a signing key (cheap, but still) to sign applications, and even then, there was no root access to the "filesystem," to try to prevent piracy.
(Palm OS uses security by obscurity on its programs+databases "filesystem," but NVBackup and FileZ break that obscurity rather easily.)
I'm not disputing Maemo, and I listed that in my list of fully-open to the user OSes.
But, I was under the impression that S60 3rd Edition had mandatory code signing, and applications only got full root access if the manufacturer of the device signed the program - not if the developer rubberstamped the app, not if the user had the app signed for their device. Maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary. (Symbian devices aren't the most common here, and Nokia has never sold a Symbian phone for CDMA, so I'll admit that I haven't used one.)
As others have pointed out, I'm not talking about the modern OS that the Pre is running, and the Pixi will be running.
I'm talking about the ancient kludge-on-top-of-a-kludge single-tasking OS that was originally written for the (m68k-based) Pilot 1000 and 5000, and is now emulating the RAM-based filesystem on flash and emulating the 68k on an ARM, with "ARMlets" that punch down through the bottom of the OS to run outside of emulation, and with a "multitasking model" that makes MS-DOS TSRs look like a good idea.
The only rivals that are completely unlocked are Palm OS (which is a joke,) Windows Mobile, and Maemo.
Android and WebOS do at least allow you to install unsigned apps, but you don't get root access without a jailbreak, and BlackBerry and Symbian both require signed apps and don't even give root to most signed apps. Useful for things like tethering (although not required.)
Except now you're going to have to hire thousands of people to monitor *ALL* traffic on your network. Even if you're a very, very small ISP.
At the VERY least, six people per user. And that's assuming two people at any given time can monitor all of a user's traffic.
I predict, if this goes through, we'll go to more of a "store and forward" internet - like FidoNet - you upload content to the ISP, then it's manually approved to be sent onto the network.
Rather than somehow filling a vacuum of for-profit entertainment, fill it with making things.
It'll take a massive cultural shift, but I think it can happen. If it doesn't happen, China and India will own our asses anyway. (Some say China already DOES.)
By you. You automatically have copyright over that song.
Now, you can place that song into the public domain, and waive that right. However, even just uploading the song to a freely downloadable location doesn't place it into the public domain, or allow anyone to redistribute it (with certain exceptions,) it just allows people to freely obtain it from you, as they don't have copyright.
(That's also how licenses such as the GPL work. If you write a GPL program, anyone can download a copy and use it without agreeing to the terms of the license, as you posted it for the public to download, but to redistribute it, they must agree to the terms of the license, as copyright law does not give them those rights, the GPL does.)
Honestly, I hope Google and Yahoo take a stand, if this gets passed, by shutting down all operations for fear of being sued out of existence by the government, and make all pages on their respective sites redirect to pages saying why they're doing this, and with a link to contact representatives.
Which is when you move to stuff like RONJA. (Wireless isn't practical due to FCC regulations. RONJA or other free space optical requires aiming, and is vulnerable to atmospheric interference, but is less vulnerable to government interference.)
Of course, quite a few CDMA smartphones are now dual-radio, meaning they'll work out of the 50 states just fine. (Generally a good idea to get a SIM card where you're travelling, not use the Sprint or Verizon-provided one, because international roaming is rape without lube, but...)
Actually, I think that's the entire point of this case - that nobody knows whether you do have the same rights, and a judge deciding whether you should.
IMO, I think it should be treated like a book if you buy the software and don't sign anything first. So, you can use it, loan it to someone else (if you're not using it at the same time,) sell it, whatever.
Of course, the solution will be very quickly rolled out - signing license agreements at the point of sale.
Of course, there's always the Acorn Archimedes 305, which is a complete ARM-based desktop, and is very much aimed at consumers, not just enthusiasts. 8 MHz ARM2 (there were some ARM1s that made it into the public, but they were aimed at developers, not consumers,) 512 kiB RAM, one 800 kiB floppy drive, no hard drive. And for 1987, it was ridiculously fast - IIRC, the only thing that wasn't a *nix workstation that could come within striking distance was a 25 MHz 386, and those cost quite a few times more money for an equivalent spec (and, there was a version of the A440 (same thing with a hard drive interface and 4 MiB RAM) called the R140, which was actually a *nix workstation running a 4.3BSD variant.);)
It's a possibly credible threat to x86, which quite a few people have wanted to see die since before x86 was called "IA-32."
In addition, it can't run full Windows, so to work, it's Linux or bust (let's face it, even if you like WinCE, it's totally unsuited to this application,) and this is a Linux-biased site.
Slashdotters specifically hate Scientology because they claim to be a religion that has used the DMCA against Slashdot itself when an AC posted some of their secret texts that normally cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to access.
Except the entire point of the dancing bunnies problem is that the user will throw caution to the wind, and download something not in the repositories, from an untrusted source.
Slashdot Mirror
Actually, it doesn't make the whole idea useless, because HTML5 is at least an open standard.
And isn't that what Chrome Frame is for?
As of what version of the BB OS? I was under the impression that you had to purchase a signing key (cheap, but still) to sign applications, and even then, there was no root access to the "filesystem," to try to prevent piracy.
(Palm OS uses security by obscurity on its programs+databases "filesystem," but NVBackup and FileZ break that obscurity rather easily.)
I'm not disputing Maemo, and I listed that in my list of fully-open to the user OSes.
But, I was under the impression that S60 3rd Edition had mandatory code signing, and applications only got full root access if the manufacturer of the device signed the program - not if the developer rubberstamped the app, not if the user had the app signed for their device. Maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary. (Symbian devices aren't the most common here, and Nokia has never sold a Symbian phone for CDMA, so I'll admit that I haven't used one.)
I was under the impression that the Konami code just allowed unsigned apps to be installed, not root access.
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Portal:Accessing_Linux
As others have pointed out, I'm not talking about the modern OS that the Pre is running, and the Pixi will be running.
I'm talking about the ancient kludge-on-top-of-a-kludge single-tasking OS that was originally written for the (m68k-based) Pilot 1000 and 5000, and is now emulating the RAM-based filesystem on flash and emulating the 68k on an ARM, with "ARMlets" that punch down through the bottom of the OS to run outside of emulation, and with a "multitasking model" that makes MS-DOS TSRs look like a good idea.
The only rivals that are completely unlocked are Palm OS (which is a joke,) Windows Mobile, and Maemo.
Android and WebOS do at least allow you to install unsigned apps, but you don't get root access without a jailbreak, and BlackBerry and Symbian both require signed apps and don't even give root to most signed apps. Useful for things like tethering (although not required.)
Except now you're going to have to hire thousands of people to monitor *ALL* traffic on your network. Even if you're a very, very small ISP.
At the VERY least, six people per user. And that's assuming two people at any given time can monitor all of a user's traffic.
I predict, if this goes through, we'll go to more of a "store and forward" internet - like FidoNet - you upload content to the ISP, then it's manually approved to be sent onto the network.
s/iPod/OS X
s/patent/copyright
There, it works better (although the number is way off, I suspect.)
Rather than somehow filling a vacuum of for-profit entertainment, fill it with making things.
It'll take a massive cultural shift, but I think it can happen. If it doesn't happen, China and India will own our asses anyway. (Some say China already DOES.)
By you. You automatically have copyright over that song.
Now, you can place that song into the public domain, and waive that right. However, even just uploading the song to a freely downloadable location doesn't place it into the public domain, or allow anyone to redistribute it (with certain exceptions,) it just allows people to freely obtain it from you, as they don't have copyright.
(That's also how licenses such as the GPL work. If you write a GPL program, anyone can download a copy and use it without agreeing to the terms of the license, as you posted it for the public to download, but to redistribute it, they must agree to the terms of the license, as copyright law does not give them those rights, the GPL does.)
Honestly, I hope Google and Yahoo take a stand, if this gets passed, by shutting down all operations for fear of being sued out of existence by the government, and make all pages on their respective sites redirect to pages saying why they're doing this, and with a link to contact representatives.
They'll just require that all private keys are government-assigned, then, so the government can sniff the traffic.
Free space optical is probably the best bet.
Which is when you move to stuff like RONJA. (Wireless isn't practical due to FCC regulations. RONJA or other free space optical requires aiming, and is vulnerable to atmospheric interference, but is less vulnerable to government interference.)
Of course, quite a few CDMA smartphones are now dual-radio, meaning they'll work out of the 50 states just fine. (Generally a good idea to get a SIM card where you're travelling, not use the Sprint or Verizon-provided one, because international roaming is rape without lube, but...)
First sale also covers ownership, however, which is a requirement for 17 USC 117 to trump the EULA.
He's not disputing that, he's disputing Psystar's ownership.
We already discussed the ease of obtaining fake IDs.
Fake ID, real stolen SSN.
Actually, I think that's the entire point of this case - that nobody knows whether you do have the same rights, and a judge deciding whether you should.
IMO, I think it should be treated like a book if you buy the software and don't sign anything first. So, you can use it, loan it to someone else (if you're not using it at the same time,) sell it, whatever.
Of course, the solution will be very quickly rolled out - signing license agreements at the point of sale.
Or they just require a paper license agreement to be signed pre-sale for all sales of OS X.
Problem solved.
So then they steal a real SSN.
There's actually been quite a few enthusiast-oriented ARM development boards as of late. In addition to the BeagleBoard and Gumstix...
Marvell OpenRD Client: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-openrdcdetails.aspx (much more desktop-oriented, albeit barely able to keep up with Beagle and Gumstix in integer, and lagging WAY behind in floating point (no FPU.))
Genesi EFIKA MX Open Client: http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/efika
Of course, there's always the Acorn Archimedes 305, which is a complete ARM-based desktop, and is very much aimed at consumers, not just enthusiasts. 8 MHz ARM2 (there were some ARM1s that made it into the public, but they were aimed at developers, not consumers,) 512 kiB RAM, one 800 kiB floppy drive, no hard drive. And for 1987, it was ridiculously fast - IIRC, the only thing that wasn't a *nix workstation that could come within striking distance was a 25 MHz 386, and those cost quite a few times more money for an equivalent spec (and, there was a version of the A440 (same thing with a hard drive interface and 4 MiB RAM) called the R140, which was actually a *nix workstation running a 4.3BSD variant.) ;)
It's a possibly credible threat to x86, which quite a few people have wanted to see die since before x86 was called "IA-32."
In addition, it can't run full Windows, so to work, it's Linux or bust (let's face it, even if you like WinCE, it's totally unsuited to this application,) and this is a Linux-biased site.
That's why Slashdot would want to see this.
Slashdotters specifically hate Scientology because they claim to be a religion that has used the DMCA against Slashdot itself when an AC posted some of their secret texts that normally cost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to access.
They're not a religion, they're a scam cult.
Except the entire point of the dancing bunnies problem is that the user will throw caution to the wind, and download something not in the repositories, from an untrusted source.
Problem is, even on Linux, users are conditioned to enter their root password to install things that they want to install.
And, it doesn't have to be dancing bunnies. It could be some tool that the user is looking for to do something they need.