Who's talking about additional rights? Why should a group of people not have the right to spend their money the way they want just because they form a 'corporation'? Why is it OK for Coke to spend limitless amounts of their own money advertising their product, but they can't advertise an idea, even one with political implications (like an anti-abortion stance)?
I am basically libertarian, so I believe people should be able to spend their money how they want, even if they join together. Unions should be able to spend money how they want and corporations should be able to as well. This is the crux of the Citizen's United case (which you're obviously alluding to when you talk about corporate 'personhood'), and this is libertarian viewpoint on the issue.
What stops the government from doing this (see: Paducah Gaseous Diffusion Plant)? At least when a private company causes harm to others, they can face lawsuits. Good luck suing the government.
I don't like the corn lobby exerting 'keeping' Pepsi buying corn syrup, but I don't have to drink Pepsi (and don't). I have no fundamental right to Pepsi. If you like Pepsi throwback, buy it instead. I never noticed it being any more expensive. Your point illustrates perfectly that you have options in the private sector. If Pepsi was a government entity, high fructose corn syrup would be the only option.
Perhaps it is you that should sit the argument out, or at least have your sarcasm meter re-calibrated. My argument is that corporations, nor people with money have the ability to meaningfully control my life at all.
Those on the right are fine with gays doing whatever they want. We're against changing the definition of a word to fit a group of people's notion. Gays can get together, form whatever kind of partnership, with whatever kind of lawful agreement they want, and call it whatever they want.
As a general rule, citizen control of their government works less as the size of government gets bigger. Our federal government is so big and bloated at this point, a change in elected officials makes little difference in the unelected bureaucrats who regulate much of our daily lives.
Furthermore, as those on the left have pushed our country into more of a democracy (and less of a republic), we suffer more and more from a tyranny of the majority. Even those on the left should be able to see the problems with democracy when looking at California's current inability to raise taxes.
Your point is well taken, and a good one, but in my daily life, its government, not corporations that are exerting control. My health insurance costs went way up this year thinks to a law I (and the majority of Americans) was against imposed on me. With the law in full swing, I can be ultimately incarcerated for failure to pay the new inflated health insurance costs. If I don't want to pay the inflated costs of the new Iphone 4, will Apple come to my house armed?
You claim government control of my life isn't important because I can easily change government. I disagree, but how exactly do corporations/rich people control my life where I can't easily change?
Care to apply your analysis to the Democratic party? Most Republicans can agree on a core set of values. Democrats have built their base up of various victim groups, minorities and special interests. Many time these groups won't agree on issues. Take the recent example of the Keystone pipeline, where two Democratic voting blocks are at odds (environmentalists and unions). Obama has been largely unsuccessful in the eyes of Democrats because he refuses to take any bold stands for fear of pissing off one group of Democrats or another. The OWS 'movement' is another great example. They are unfocused, unorganized and incoherent for the same reason - too many passions. Democrats are in far worse shape than Republicans IMO. We'll see who's right in less than a year from now...
Technically, partisan refers to Democrat or Republican... not conservative or liberal, so you're confused on that point. This is the technique all 'non partisan' organizations use to get tax exempt status. ThinkProgress is a 'non-partisan' organization, but they say on their website they are proudly liberal. However, I think the non-partisan label is ridiculous, because these days Republicans are entirely right-wing and Democrats are entirely left-wing.
I am against 150% control of all aspects of my life from any entity, however I disagree with your characterization that corporations or people with money have that power. I could never buy another Pepsi for the rest of my life and Pepsi would have no power or control over me to do otherwise. The only entity with real power or control over my life is the government. I will never understand why you lefties don't realize that. You are perfectly happy with government reducing your freedoms in a real and draconian way, yet you wring your hands or march in the street because a company has the right to run an ad on TV supporting a political cause?
Illogical.
To fix this is easy, its called POT adjusting. You probably have an older model playstation (eg. SCPH 1001). Sony has always made inferior lasers, but the ones on the early models were especially bad. Open up the playstation and carefully look on the side of the laser assembly where the ribbon cable attaches to it. There you should find a small round silver screw. This is a variable resistor and it adjusts the power to the laser. There is a small line across it running up and down, useing a screwdriver, turn it the dial to the right about 1/8 turn. Put the playstation back together and it should be good as new. No more upside-down playstation.
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Who's talking about additional rights? Why should a group of people not have the right to spend their money the way they want just because they form a 'corporation'? Why is it OK for Coke to spend limitless amounts of their own money advertising their product, but they can't advertise an idea, even one with political implications (like an anti-abortion stance)?
I am basically libertarian, so I believe people should be able to spend their money how they want, even if they join together. Unions should be able to spend money how they want and corporations should be able to as well. This is the crux of the Citizen's United case (which you're obviously alluding to when you talk about corporate 'personhood'), and this is libertarian viewpoint on the issue.
What stops the government from doing this (see: Paducah Gaseous Diffusion Plant)? At least when a private company causes harm to others, they can face lawsuits. Good luck suing the government.
I don't like the corn lobby exerting 'keeping' Pepsi buying corn syrup, but I don't have to drink Pepsi (and don't). I have no fundamental right to Pepsi. If you like Pepsi throwback, buy it instead. I never noticed it being any more expensive. Your point illustrates perfectly that you have options in the private sector. If Pepsi was a government entity, high fructose corn syrup would be the only option.
Perhaps it is you that should sit the argument out, or at least have your sarcasm meter re-calibrated. My argument is that corporations, nor people with money have the ability to meaningfully control my life at all.
Those on the right are fine with gays doing whatever they want. We're against changing the definition of a word to fit a group of people's notion. Gays can get together, form whatever kind of partnership, with whatever kind of lawful agreement they want, and call it whatever they want.
As a general rule, citizen control of their government works less as the size of government gets bigger. Our federal government is so big and bloated at this point, a change in elected officials makes little difference in the unelected bureaucrats who regulate much of our daily lives.
Furthermore, as those on the left have pushed our country into more of a democracy (and less of a republic), we suffer more and more from a tyranny of the majority. Even those on the left should be able to see the problems with democracy when looking at California's current inability to raise taxes.
Your point is well taken, and a good one, but in my daily life, its government, not corporations that are exerting control. My health insurance costs went way up this year thinks to a law I (and the majority of Americans) was against imposed on me. With the law in full swing, I can be ultimately incarcerated for failure to pay the new inflated health insurance costs. If I don't want to pay the inflated costs of the new Iphone 4, will Apple come to my house armed?
You claim government control of my life isn't important because I can easily change government. I disagree, but how exactly do corporations/rich people control my life where I can't easily change?
Oh yeah, they are there for a reason all right. To line a congressman's pockets or ensure his reelection.
Care to apply your analysis to the Democratic party? Most Republicans can agree on a core set of values. Democrats have built their base up of various victim groups, minorities and special interests. Many time these groups won't agree on issues. Take the recent example of the Keystone pipeline, where two Democratic voting blocks are at odds (environmentalists and unions). Obama has been largely unsuccessful in the eyes of Democrats because he refuses to take any bold stands for fear of pissing off one group of Democrats or another. The OWS 'movement' is another great example. They are unfocused, unorganized and incoherent for the same reason - too many passions. Democrats are in far worse shape than Republicans IMO. We'll see who's right in less than a year from now...
Technically, partisan refers to Democrat or Republican... not conservative or liberal, so you're confused on that point. This is the technique all 'non partisan' organizations use to get tax exempt status. ThinkProgress is a 'non-partisan' organization, but they say on their website they are proudly liberal. However, I think the non-partisan label is ridiculous, because these days Republicans are entirely right-wing and Democrats are entirely left-wing. I am against 150% control of all aspects of my life from any entity, however I disagree with your characterization that corporations or people with money have that power. I could never buy another Pepsi for the rest of my life and Pepsi would have no power or control over me to do otherwise. The only entity with real power or control over my life is the government. I will never understand why you lefties don't realize that. You are perfectly happy with government reducing your freedoms in a real and draconian way, yet you wring your hands or march in the street because a company has the right to run an ad on TV supporting a political cause? Illogical.
To fix this is easy, its called POT adjusting. You probably have an older model playstation (eg. SCPH 1001). Sony has always made inferior lasers, but the ones on the early models were especially bad. Open up the playstation and carefully look on the side of the laser assembly where the ribbon cable attaches to it. There you should find a small round silver screw. This is a variable resistor and it adjusts the power to the laser. There is a small line across it running up and down, useing a screwdriver, turn it the dial to the right about 1/8 turn. Put the playstation back together and it should be good as new. No more upside-down playstation.