Well sure, but there are virtually always appeals available, especially if the opposing council is weak and doesn't oppose the appeals too vigoursly, no?
In the case of razors/blades, the handle (which is essentially given away) really isn't all that expensive to begin with -- It wouldn't surprise me if the razor+blades sale is at the break-even point for the company.
In the case of printers, manufacturers sell printers substantially under cost, effectively losing money on every sale. That's a poorly thought out business model, but unfortunately, with disposable products becoming the norm, an effective one, at least short term.
Next time you're at a drug store, pick up some prescription reading glasses (preferrably the strongest prescription they sell, unless you wear them already) and try to tell the difference between the bills in your wallet.
The problem is that an inkjet or colour laser is sufficient to print up bills which will pass a bartender's inspection, or will look enough like cash left on the table at a restaurant for you to get out the door.
They'll be discovered quickly enough when they hit a bank, but you'll be long gone by then.
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My understanding is that in most cases an ineffective "security" procedure puts you in a more legally liable position having no policy at all.
However, IANAL, nor am I an American, so I've never really looked into US law to understand the ins and outs of that understanding (or whether I'm completely on crack)
#1) In the case of pnglib, it wasn't just an application, it was a widely used library. Also note that if applications installed their DLLs in the system directory like they're supposed to, no application could override the current one with an older (vulnerable) one.
2) If Linux had an installed base large enough to be worth attacking, it would be attacked.
3) This IS/. afterall... It's not an unreasonable assumption.
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Okay I thought so -- Same reason as they provide in Canada.
In this case, isn't it irresponsible for them to fail to block subsequent purchases of similar drugs on the same membership card?
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Okay that's just dumb. It makes me want to buy a lot of matches...
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It's one thing to cease selling something completely, but to stop selling it with something else is just nuts.
*sigh*
Does Costco require memberships in the states, or is that unique to Canada?
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Not only that, but I'm sure these "smarty men" have PHBs just like the rest of us, and their PHB would catch any idiot design flaws that the "smarty" folks happened to miss.
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Are you serious?
Do they stop you from buying those drugs at the till? Can you just go back and buy the "other" drug 15 minutes down the road?
Do they follow you to stop you from going to another drug store after you leave Costco?
Maybe they're read that way, but is there any reason they need to be written in that order?
Creating an image up front would probably be a good idea, but it's probably not strictly required. You know the size of the files and all the other relevant facts about the file system and physical geometry up front, you should be able to take a list of files and filesizes and figure out what will go where.
Not just in your eyes, in law. If you are paying to copy movies, then you are allowed to copy movies. This is just simple logic.
I'm curious if they'll try it though, the Canadian recording industry is trying to get the levy removed so that they can go after people copying CDs in Canada. The supreme court told them they wanted the levy, they got their levy, and now they're stuck with their levy and as a result we can legally download music.
People can talk about Florida all they want. It was a result of outdated technology and a ballot that was confusing to read. Combine that with an elder population that has a difficult time adjusting to electronic voting and you'll get problems that are difficult to solve in the next election.
Having enough ballots would be neat thing to try though...
In most cases a DMCA complaint will result in the user losing their account or part of the account (webspace will get turned off, or usenet posting access revoked, or whatever else suits your ISP) unless you put on some form of defense.
From a criminal point of view, you're still innocent until proven guilty, true enough. You're just treated like a criminal by everyone involved unless you fight for your innocence.
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Well sure, but there are virtually always appeals available, especially if the opposing council is weak and doesn't oppose the appeals too vigoursly, no?
In the case of razors/blades, the handle (which is essentially given away) really isn't all that expensive to begin with -- It wouldn't surprise me if the razor+blades sale is at the break-even point for the company.
In the case of printers, manufacturers sell printers substantially under cost, effectively losing money on every sale. That's a poorly thought out business model, but unfortunately, with disposable products becoming the norm, an effective one, at least short term.
I'm curious -- If two guys with a bunch of money to blow on lawyers decided to set up a testcase, wouldn't it be pretty simple?
Guy #1) Write a notepad clone in VB, include a EULA that transfers copyright over all material created using said notepad-clone to author.
Guy #2) Buys product, writes article/advertisement/novel/whatever (Something with *real* monetary value)
Guy #1) Sues #2 for profits from product created with notepad clone.
Once a precedent is on the books, my understanding is that it's binding in the US, no?
If you login with the same username and password as the currently logged in user, you'll take over that session.
You can download the client, but not the server component.
Please try to avoid introducing facts or logic into this discussion.
Next time you're at a drug store, pick up some prescription reading glasses (preferrably the strongest prescription they sell, unless you wear them already) and try to tell the difference between the bills in your wallet.
Now try it with different coloured bills.
The problem is that an inkjet or colour laser is sufficient to print up bills which will pass a bartender's inspection, or will look enough like cash left on the table at a restaurant for you to get out the door.
They'll be discovered quickly enough when they hit a bank, but you'll be long gone by then.
My understanding is that in most cases an ineffective "security" procedure puts you in a more legally liable position having no policy at all.
However, IANAL, nor am I an American, so I've never really looked into US law to understand the ins and outs of that understanding (or whether I'm completely on crack)
#1) In the case of pnglib, it wasn't just an application, it was a widely used library. Also note that if applications installed their DLLs in the system directory like they're supposed to, no application could override the current one with an older (vulnerable) one.
/. afterall... It's not an unreasonable assumption.
2) If Linux had an installed base large enough to be worth attacking, it would be attacked.
3) This IS
Okay I thought so -- Same reason as they provide in Canada.
In this case, isn't it irresponsible for them to fail to block subsequent purchases of similar drugs on the same membership card?
Okay that's just dumb. It makes me want to buy a lot of matches...
ARe yOU sAYiNG yOU WoUlD preFER 'lEEt sPEaK?
Okay okay, point taken. Habit, and a bad one at that...
Yeah, good point, what with image-based buffer overruns being unhead of on Linux.
It's not like libpng or Mozilla/FireFox/ThunderBird were found to be vulnerable to similar issues or anything within the last month either.
If the editors can dupe, why not the posters?
It's one thing to cease selling something completely, but to stop selling it with something else is just nuts.
*sigh*
Does Costco require memberships in the states, or is that unique to Canada?
Not only that, but I'm sure these "smarty men" have PHBs just like the rest of us, and their PHB would catch any idiot design flaws that the "smarty" folks happened to miss.
Are you serious?
Do they stop you from buying those drugs at the till? Can you just go back and buy the "other" drug 15 minutes down the road?
Do they follow you to stop you from going to another drug store after you leave Costco?
Maybe they're read that way, but is there any reason they need to be written in that order?
Creating an image up front would probably be a good idea, but it's probably not strictly required. You know the size of the files and all the other relevant facts about the file system and physical geometry up front, you should be able to take a list of files and filesizes and figure out what will go where.
Perhaps you'd be more satisfied if you paid more for the drive? I'll sell you one at the cost of 50 pieces of media if it would ease your mind.
Not just in your eyes, in law. If you are paying to copy movies, then you are allowed to copy movies. This is just simple logic.
I'm curious if they'll try it though, the Canadian recording industry is trying to get the levy removed so that they can go after people copying CDs in Canada. The supreme court told them they wanted the levy, they got their levy, and now they're stuck with their levy and as a result we can legally download music.
People can talk about Florida all they want. It was a result of outdated technology and a ballot that was confusing to read. Combine that with an elder population that has a difficult time adjusting to electronic voting and you'll get problems that are difficult to solve in the next election.
Having enough ballots would be neat thing to try though...
I'm sure they do.
You just copy the whole thing and brute force or socially engineer the protected store's password at your leisure.
The solution is simple -- Occasionally ask people to show their SecureID on the way in or out of the building.
Anyone that pulls it from their laptop bag is fired on the spot.
In most cases a DMCA complaint will result in the user losing their account or part of the account (webspace will get turned off, or usenet posting access revoked, or whatever else suits your ISP) unless you put on some form of defense.
From a criminal point of view, you're still innocent until proven guilty, true enough. You're just treated like a criminal by everyone involved unless you fight for your innocence.