If you want different dishes, you are free to chose any toolkit (tcl/tk, C with GTK,...).
If you look at Debian installer, it is based on many shell scripts. You can chose its frontend to be GUI. So limitation of shell script is only within people's mind. Just use right tools in smart way.
I can see the IBM lawyers now..."Hmmm, interesting. Yes it may be possible that you have something there on this one patent. Let's see..." ruffles through a huge stack of papers in front of him. "However, we've discovered that you're also in violation of these 127 patents of ours. Now, shall we deal?"
This only works if this company suing Sony has any business activities in this field. Even if they did, the company can stop it and Sony's claim for damage is small one.
Then if this small company win, it is huge financial damage to Sony. So the company are hoping Sony may negotiate terms. This company is like trrorist taking hostage.
The only way is to crash the company's IP position using all available legal means including method to induce huge drain of money for this small company. If expense gets too big, this small company will be broke before finishing the case. That is modern big company strategy dealing with these IP terrorists. Nasty, yes. But these IP terrorists are nasty too.
In europe, if you ask your dog to get passport for international travel, they ask you to inplant IC (some RFID device) into your dog at vet. So this is no new technology thing.
I don't know whether it was lost or if the treasurer just decided he didn't want my money.
There were some issues between the bank and SPI. SPI decided not to deposit checkes to prevent fraud and protect donation.
SPI did not realized old checks can not be cashed later. SPI had good people with programing skills but they were week on money handling.
So your check was more likely to be never cashed. I think some notice to the doner were sent out but I am not very familiar with the incidents.
Anyway, this is not something SPI should be proud of. I think they have been working hard to fix situation. This new SPI wab page seems to be their way to improve situation.
Let me quote SPI site
Because information posted to SPI's website was used to defraud one of our checking accounts years ago, we do not publish information about our accounts sufficient for donors to initiate wire transfers. (Due in part to our dissatisfication with the security safeguards of that bank, SPI no longer does business with them.) If you would like to donate to SPI or one of our member projects via wire transfer, please contact the SPI Treasurer to make arrangements.
Please do not attempt to donate to SPI via PayPal or a similar service. If any account is registered with a payee that claims to be "SPI", be aware that it is not associated with Software in the Public Interest, Inc. and may be fraudulent.
Here you find link to donate money. Please note you should designate your money to "Debian" to ensure it is used only for Debian. Otherwise, money will be spread over all the projects supported by SPI, I think.
Asian input is headache. I hope SCIM shall be good direction. But with current Sarge set of Gnome and KDE packages, there will be some rogh edges. Old XCIN and UIM-ANTHY will be choice for most people. I really wish some ender to spend thieir paied employee time on this basic issue.
I thouhght about making toy UBUNTU live CD variant with SCIM. That should be good for Asian people. I have no time. Any volunteer?
I do not think we rejected Norm Walsh because of bureaucracy. Nor we rejected RMS due to bureaucracy for that matter if you want to dig deep into Debian history.
I think it was a technical reason not completing NM process which requires rigourous packaging skill demonstration. Neither had time or interests to do that kind of technical work. (I am sure they had more interesting works for them. Many aspects of the packaging may not be interesting for upstream author. But we need to have some consistency here.)
I think we still have packages with NW and RMS as the upstream and they are helping us a lot.
I was sad to hear Norm Walsh decided not to join Debian but please do not twist the story and spread *untruth*.
NM process is the best compromise we found now. With diverse members across the world, it is not easy to make quck decision on the membership for whom we give full root access to everyone's box through packaging tools.
Please do not pick on my words. I wonder what prompted above somewhat argumentative message.
Anyway, I never suggested firefox choice is good or bad. If it works for them, that is fine with me.
I think good PR is nice to have but the positive project output is what it counts. So they can chose anyway they want as long as it works for them.. They can change mind later too.
FYI: Let me remind that Debian is not all about writing whole new codes. It is a distribution of softwares with tight integration. we have upstream authors too. Thus my message lives in this context.
Maybe, Debian wants people with the *best* skill to cooperate. We need to be like this to have positive output as a whole with so many packages maintainers, and architectures. I have seen some NMs not accepted due to this qualification despite their good technical skills. Despite its size, I think Debian is doing fine in this respect although we always have some room to improve.
Debian is not that "beaurocratic". Giving normal Debian account means practically equivqlent of full root access to all machines running Debian. So we have layered access. People can file good patch with BTS and it get added to package. There is also alioth where many CVS/SVN archiveare hosted.
Oh, once they recognized your contribution have been positive and your commitment has been good, you get account no matter what your coding skill is. After all, not everyone in Debian are the smartest coder.
The official harden* packages are purely virtual. Their only purpose is to conflict with other packages which are insecure. In contrast Debian hardened wants to change the contents of the insecure packages
Not exactly correct.
It pulls in a documentation called harden-doc which goes through all the actions local admin should take to make the system secure. I think Javi is always putting good efforts to update it. This SGML source of this doc package is a part of the source tree creating dependency if I remember correct.
I think it may be a cheaper way to collect money for e-mail based support. Or, large buyer can charge vender a fee for getting their time through e-mail.
If momentum is build and corporations find this a cheaper way to collect money, this will be used as "pay me to read your mail scheme".
Question is how expensive and easier it is to use this against paypal with custom mailserver configuration etc..
As I lived in many areas, I can say that Japan is easer than most middle/south part of western places in Europe. Although it is not as easy as California, Tokyo is easier to park than New yourk legally. Problem is there is not many legally parkable free places.
I can tell you Brussels, Munich, Paris are certainly toughr to park bit there are places to park free or minimal costa. No parting will cist $10/hour.
[quote]Is it a joint project by FreeBSD and Debian teams?[/quote]
I do not know exactly,... but it looks like soley by Debian Developer developing user land software using only netBSD kernel.
[quote]The Debian is basing their efforts on the already established ports of various applications on *BSD. eg. see the following from Debian's NetBSD based distribuition's information pages.[/quote]
NetBSD runs on hardware unsupported by Linux. Porting Debian to
the NetBSD kernel increases the number of platforms that can run a
Debian-based operating system.
The Debian GNU/Hurd project demonstrates that Debian is not tied
to one specific kernel. However, the Hurd kernel is still relatively
immature - a Debian GNU/NetBSD system would be usable at a production
level.
Lessons learned from the porting of Debian to NetBSD can be used
in porting Debian to other kernels (such as FreeBSD and OpenBSD).
In contrast to projects like Fink
or Debian GNU/w32, Debian
GNU/NetBSD does not exist in order to provide extra software or a
Unix-style environment to an existing OS (the *BSD ports trees are
already comprehensive, and they unarguably provide a Unix-style
environment). Instead, a user or administrator used to a more
traditional Debian system should feel comfortable with a Debian
GNU/NetBSD system immediately and competent in a relatively short
period of time.
Not everybody likes the *BSD ports tree or the *BSD userland (this
is a personal preference thing, rather than any sort of comment on
quality). Linux distributions have been produced which provide *BSD
style ports or a *BSD style userland for those who like the BSD user
environment but also wish to use the Linux kernel - Debian GNU/NetBSD
is the logical reverse of this, allowing people who like the GNU
userland or a Linux-style packaging system to use the NetBSD
kernel.
I may not have 85Hz but I certainly have 1600x1200 resolution 16.1" UXGA Sony PCG-GRX690 laptop PC running Linux 2.4 with X4.2. It is sweeet. If you think about this PC's price, quite reasonable having all the goodies like CD-RW/DVD-RW.
I have cable connection and use Linux as my gateway. Since I set almost all (except ssh) server port closed by ipchains, i did not get infected. (But have log to look at.)
Looking at my log, I had several funny ftp, rpc, snmp, http (111, 53, 80, 21, 161) attacks last one week. Since their connections are denyed, I do not know how serious attack was. But pattern and frequency proves it serious.
Some ftp attack seems to be spoofing their source IP as local net IP (192.1268.1.13).
(FYI: I use debian and my modified ipmasq setting is on my web.)
Sorry, I posted without reviewing. (Should have pressed preview)
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Being citizen of Japan, every time I hear these stories, I need to sigh.
Japanese government and its ex-government owned monopoly (NTT) has been talking about "Fiber to home" sh-t for more than 5 years. That was an excuse not to implement any DSL or cheap ISDN service,
Korea has very good high speed Internet access while Japan has some ISDN but still practically no real high-speed access. It happened because of government incompetence.
Both country shares similar urban STRUCTURE and there should be no excuse by NTT.
They can talk any bulls--t and make story for digital contents (Which I did not bother to read) but I am very skeptical about it.
Some facts.
In Japan, Local call costs about $9/3 min from home phone, $9/min. from public phone. Getting new line installed, expect to shell out $1000 and wait for 4 weeks. Unlimited nighttime discount call option costs $50/month. Dou you get picture how NTT being so rich. MONOPOLY.
Being citizen of Japan, everytime I hear these story, I need to sigh.
Japanese goverment and its ex-goverment owned monopoly (NTT) has been talking about "Fiber to home" sh-t for more than 5 years. That was an excuse not to implement any DSL or cheap ISDN service,
Not Korea has very good high speed Internet access while Japan has some ISDN but still practically no real high speed access. It happened because of goverment incompetence.
Both country shares similar urban STRUCTURE and there should be no excuse by NTT.
They can talk any bulls--t and make story for digital contents (Which I did not bother to read) but I am very skeptical about it.
Some facts.
In Japan, Local call costs about $9/3 min from home phone, $9/min. from public phone. Getting new line installed, expect to shell out $1000 and wait for 4 weeks. Unlimited night time discount call option costs $50/month. Dou you get picture how NTT being so rich. <b>MONOPOLY</>.
If you are looking for cheaper alternative to commercial MP3 player, this is not for you.
But this guy is serious hardware/software hacker. Look at his site in English.
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/
He has many FSW (Free Softwares). Though, FSW in Japanese tends to mean not-GPL but free-to-use. But most of these FSW auther opens source code and if asked with reasonable tone, they agree to GPL. Japanese FSW sometimes tends to imply non-commercial use only but usually not explicit enough to prevent modified version used for commercial use. Also sometimes restrictive about modification in fear of distribution of virus-contaminated software to disgrage original author.
WAKAMATSU is a small shop in Tokyo-Akihabara where they sell kits. These kits are usually just parts with generic PC board (Sometimes no specific pattern and you are required to connect parts running thin wires in between).
If you are in US, you will have easier time to get parts by your self and those IC's from device manufactures as sample for free or minimul cost. Tough part is getting small quantities os special socket etc.
Nice thing about Wakamatsu is they have detailed circuits and all small parts and socket in one package. But not much more. Some of the kit I did required QFP 1.0 mm pitch hand soldering to PC board. Not for faint hearted.
Anyway, his bootloader seems to have nice Japanese-Anime chick photo. Maybe not politically correct in US but typically geeky japanese stuff. Check it out.
I actually agree with you in many points. Yes, well configured default settings of these NAT/firewall will benefit everyone including me. Current product seems to come fully configurable condition and looks attractive.
It won't be too long before these large DSL/cable venders get an idea to use these products for their advantage. If I were teleco/cable service vender exec, I sure will like this kind of nasty scheme. This is my worry.
Another nasty idea is limit access speed or total accumulated bandwidth to restrict large continuous use of bandwidth.
As long as DSL/cable connect box do not get too smart, this will not happen.
When I subscribed DSL, pacbell gave me STATIC IP, but new subscribers are getting dynamic IP unless they pay premium. I bet static IP should involves less software and easier to maintain for teleco too.
Why? Answer is to discurage Server use which geeks like me will love to have.
If service vender provide NAT/Firewall box with service as an integrated portion of DSL/Cable connection box, they can block connection to some port claiming to protect consumer by preconfiguring these box.
Result will be no server function accesible from outside. No more personal web server, ssh into your home machine, etc.
I would rather my Linux do those functions in my way.
Slashdot Mirror
I agree python is lots of fun... but I do not call following script to be nontrivial.
> In Python, you can do things like
> junk_extension = (".temp", ".tmp", ".junk")
> if filename.endswith(junk_extension):
> os.remove(filename)
Your problem is: thinking ten lines of "if" statements to look at a filename.
This kind of things are done in 1 liner single shell command. This is too simple to bother python.
Please read about the "find" command. especially with --exec rm '{}' \;
Osamu
There is zenity for GTK from shell.
There are other dialog tools out-there too.
It adds spice to a dish (program).
If you want different dishes, you are free to chose any toolkit (tcl/tk, C with GTK, ...).
If you look at Debian installer, it is based on many shell scripts. You can chose its frontend to be GUI. So limitation of shell script is only within people's mind. Just use right tools in smart way.
That's all.
Osamu
I can see the IBM lawyers now..."Hmmm, interesting. Yes it may be possible that you have something there on this one patent. Let's see..." ruffles through a huge stack of papers in front of him. "However, we've discovered that you're also in violation of these 127 patents of ours. Now, shall we deal?"
This only works if this company suing Sony has any business activities in this field. Even if they did, the company can stop it and Sony's claim for damage is small one.
Then if this small company win, it is huge financial damage to Sony. So the company are hoping Sony may negotiate terms. This company is like trrorist taking hostage.
The only way is to crash the company's IP position using all available legal means including method to induce huge drain of money for this small company. If expense gets too big, this small company will be broke before finishing the case. That is modern big company strategy dealing with these IP terrorists. Nasty, yes. But these IP terrorists are nasty too.
In europe, if you ask your dog to get passport for international travel, they ask you to inplant IC (some RFID device) into your dog at vet. So this is no new technology thing.
I don't know whether it was lost or if the treasurer just decided he didn't want my money.
There were some issues between the bank and SPI. SPI decided not to deposit checkes to prevent fraud and protect donation.
SPI did not realized old checks can not be cashed later. SPI had good people with programing skills but they were week on money handling.
So your check was more likely to be never cashed. I think some notice to the doner were sent out but I am not very familiar with the incidents.
Anyway, this is not something SPI should be proud of. I think they have been working hard to fix situation. This new SPI wab page seems to be their way to improve situation.
Let me quote SPI site
Because information posted to SPI's website was used to defraud one of our checking accounts years ago, we do not publish information about our accounts sufficient for donors to initiate wire transfers. (Due in part to our dissatisfication with the security safeguards of that bank, SPI no longer does business with them.) If you would like to donate to SPI or one of our member projects via wire transfer, please contact the SPI Treasurer to make arrangements.
Please do not attempt to donate to SPI via PayPal or a similar service. If any account is registered with a payee that claims to be "SPI", be aware that it is not associated with Software in the Public Interest, Inc. and may be fraudulent.
See following pages for donation info for Debian:
http://www.debian.org/donations
This tells us basically to go to:
http://www.spi-inc.org/donations
Here you find link to donate money. Please note you should designate your money to "Debian" to ensure it is used only for Debian. Otherwise, money will be spread over all the projects supported by SPI, I think.
Osamu
Asian input is headache. I hope SCIM shall be good direction. But with current Sarge set of Gnome and KDE packages, there will be some rogh edges. Old XCIN and UIM-ANTHY will be choice for most people. I really wish some ender to spend thieir paied employee time on this basic issue.
I thouhght about making toy UBUNTU live CD variant with SCIM. That should be good for Asian people. I have no time. Any volunteer?
Osamu
I guess this (unstable for production use) really depends on what do people want for their "production" environment.
:-)
If it is developer's desktop, unstable is perfectly fine. (At least you do not need to recompile like gentoo.)
But for hosting any service for others, I agree it does not cut it for a lot of people unless they QA every updates in advance in details.
What we need is more regular desktop release
By the way, I have to admit we have not so many active Asian DD when compaired to Europe.
Osamu
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I do not think we rejected Norm Walsh because of bureaucracy. Nor we rejected RMS due to bureaucracy for that matter if you want to dig deep into Debian history.
I think it was a technical reason not completing NM process which requires rigourous packaging skill demonstration. Neither had time or interests to do that kind of technical work. (I am sure they had more interesting works for them. Many aspects of the packaging may not be interesting for upstream author. But we need to have some consistency here.)
I think we still have packages with NW and RMS as the upstream and they are helping us a lot.
I was sad to hear Norm Walsh decided not to join Debian but please do not twist the story and spread *untruth*.
NM process is the best compromise we found now. With diverse members across the world, it is not easy to make quck decision on the membership for whom we give full root access to everyone's box through packaging tools.
ciao.
I am not in debate mood :-)
Please do not pick on my words. I wonder what prompted above somewhat argumentative message.
Anyway, I never suggested firefox choice is good or bad. If it works for them, that is fine with me.
I think good PR is nice to have but the positive project output is what it counts. So they can chose anyway they want as long as it works for them.. They can change mind later too.
FYI: Let me remind that Debian is not all about writing whole new codes. It is a distribution of softwares with tight integration. we have upstream authors too. Thus my message lives in this context.
Maybe, Debian wants people with the *best* skill to cooperate. We need to be like this to have positive output as a whole with so many packages maintainers, and architectures. I have seen some NMs not accepted due to this qualification despite their good technical skills. Despite its size, I think Debian is doing fine in this respect although we always have some room to improve.
ciao.
Debian is not that "beaurocratic". Giving normal Debian account means practically equivqlent of full root access to all machines running Debian. So we have layered access. People can file good patch with BTS and it get added to package. There is also alioth where many CVS/SVN archiveare hosted.
Oh, once they recognized your contribution have been positive and your commitment has been good, you get account no matter what your coding skill is. After all, not everyone in Debian are the smartest coder.
Key is proven "contribution".
Osamu
Yes. Not only that, when installing, I am sure dependancy needs to be met and install scripts need to be run.
You can break your system hard.
Post inst script of rm -rf / will wipe yor system. So I really need some more explanation before I Klik from my Debian PC.
Osamu
The official harden* packages are purely virtual. Their only purpose is to conflict with other packages which are insecure. In contrast Debian hardened wants to change the contents of the insecure packages
Not exactly correct.
It pulls in a documentation called harden-doc which goes through all the actions local admin should take to make the system secure. I think Javi is always putting good efforts to update it. This SGML source of this doc package is a part of the source tree creating dependency if I remember correct.
The same document is available as "Securing Debian Manual".
Cheers,
Osamu
I think it may be a cheaper way to collect money for e-mail based support. Or, large buyer can charge vender a fee for getting their time through e-mail.
If momentum is build and corporations find this a cheaper way to collect money, this will be used as "pay me to read your mail scheme".
Question is how expensive and easier it is to use this against paypal with custom mailserver configuration etc..
Oh, well.
As I lived in many areas, I can say that Japan is easer than most middle/south part of western places in Europe. Although it is not as easy as California, Tokyo is easier to park than New yourk legally. Problem is there is not many legally parkable free places.
I can tell you Brussels, Munich, Paris are certainly toughr to park bit there are places to park free or minimal costa. No parting will cist $10/hour.
netBSD port status
netBSD port status
Answer to 2 specific questions:
I do not know exactly, ... but it looks like soley by Debian Developer developing user land software using only netBSD kernel.
I do not think this is true.
From Why Debian GNU/NetBSD?:
Why Debian GNU/NetBSD?
Go shop new PC :-)
Sorry, I live in USA.
If posting this kind of comment makes you happy, you seriously needs to seek help. My sympathy to you.
I have cable connection and use Linux as my gateway. Since I set almost all (except ssh) server port closed by ipchains, i did not get infected. (But have log to look at.)
Looking at my log, I had several funny ftp, rpc, snmp, http (111, 53, 80, 21, 161) attacks last one week. Since their connections are denyed, I do not know how serious attack was. But pattern and frequency proves it serious.
Some ftp attack seems to be spoofing their source IP as local net IP (192.1268.1.13).
(FYI: I use debian and my modified ipmasq setting is on my web.)
Sorry, I posted without reviewing. (Should have pressed preview)
---------------------------
Being citizen of Japan, every time I hear these stories, I need to sigh.
Japanese government and its ex-government owned monopoly (NTT) has been talking about "Fiber to home" sh-t for more than 5 years. That was an excuse not to implement any DSL or cheap ISDN service,
Korea has very good high speed Internet access while Japan has some ISDN but still practically no real high-speed access. It happened because of government incompetence.
Both country shares similar urban STRUCTURE and there should be no excuse by NTT.
They can talk any bulls--t and make story for digital contents (Which I did not bother to read) but I am very skeptical about it.
Some facts.
In Japan, Local call costs about $9/3 min from home phone, $9/min. from public phone. Getting new line installed, expect to shell out $1000 and wait for 4 weeks. Unlimited nighttime discount call option costs $50/month. Dou you get picture how NTT being so rich. MONOPOLY.
So much for my rant.
Being citizen of Japan, everytime I hear these story, I need to sigh.
Japanese goverment and its ex-goverment owned monopoly (NTT) has been talking about "Fiber to home" sh-t for more than 5 years. That was an excuse not to implement any DSL or cheap ISDN service,
Not Korea has very good high speed Internet access while Japan has some ISDN but still practically no real high speed access. It happened because of goverment incompetence.
Both country shares similar urban STRUCTURE and there should be no excuse by NTT.
They can talk any bulls--t and make story for digital contents (Which I did not bother to read) but I am very skeptical about it.
Some facts.
In Japan, Local call costs about $9/3 min from home phone, $9/min. from public phone. Getting new line installed, expect to shell out $1000 and wait for 4 weeks. Unlimited night time discount call option costs $50/month. Dou you get picture how NTT being so rich. <b>MONOPOLY</>.
So much for rant.
If you are looking for cheaper alternative to commercial MP3 player, this is not for you.
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But this guy is serious hardware/software hacker. Look at his site in English.
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/
He has many FSW (Free Softwares). Though, FSW in Japanese tends to mean not-GPL but free-to-use. But most of these FSW auther opens source code and if asked with reasonable tone, they agree to GPL. Japanese FSW sometimes tends to imply non-commercial use only but usually not explicit enough to prevent modified version used for commercial use. Also sometimes restrictive about modification in fear of distribution of virus-contaminated software to disgrage original author.
WAKAMATSU is a small shop in Tokyo-Akihabara where they sell kits. These kits are usually just parts with generic PC board (Sometimes no specific pattern and you are required to connect parts running thin wires in between).
Complete circuit is posed.
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/reports/mpc/mpc
If you are in US, you will have easier time to get parts by your self and those IC's from device manufactures as sample for free or minimul cost. Tough part is getting small quantities os special socket etc.
Nice thing about Wakamatsu is they have detailed circuits and all small parts and socket in one package. But not much more. Some of the kit I did required QFP 1.0 mm pitch hand soldering to PC board. Not for faint hearted.
Anyway, his bootloader seems to have nice Japanese-Anime chick photo. Maybe not politically correct in US but typically geeky japanese stuff. Check it out.
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/fsw_e.html
I actually agree with you in many points. Yes, well configured default settings of these NAT/firewall will benefit everyone including me. Current product seems to come fully configurable condition and looks attractive.
It won't be too long before these large DSL/cable venders get an idea to use these products for their advantage. If I were teleco/cable service vender exec, I sure will like this kind of nasty scheme. This is my worry.
Another nasty idea is limit access speed or total accumulated bandwidth to restrict large continuous use of bandwidth.
As long as DSL/cable connect box do not get too smart, this will not happen.
When I subscribed DSL, pacbell gave me STATIC IP, but new subscribers are getting dynamic IP unless they pay premium. I bet static IP should involves less software and easier to maintain for teleco too.
Why? Answer is to discurage Server use which geeks like me will love to have.
Get the picture?
If service vender provide NAT/Firewall box with service as an integrated portion of DSL/Cable connection box, they can block connection to some port claiming to protect consumer by preconfiguring these box.
Result will be no server function accesible from outside. No more personal web server, ssh into your home machine, etc.
I would rather my Linux do those functions in my way.
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