Hacker was someone that wrote code and/or made their way into systems. Under hacker you also had a special group of people called Social Engineers. Some of the SE's were quite good like burns.
Crackers broke copyright stuff for the win32 crowd. The win32 crowd were heavy into warez and needed ereet people that could do courier work for them. There were also many crackers doing useful things like popping the top on some big encryption. I think calling these lazy, no talent morons that just learned how to type make papasmurf on their fresh redslackbian install while IRCing as root is disrespectful to the crackers. Real crackers actually display some sort of intelligence. I know crackers that call themselve crackers (like a safe cracker?) and all they do all day is sit around trying to do things like learn how UPC codes at their supermarket work.
There were these morons that stole code, hex edited binaries and put there names in there, and other lame stuff that lazy people do. We usually called them morons.
see http://www.moron.com for TersIan's take on this.
Lately those people are being called script kiddies. If the particular moron is afraid to run the pop3 exploit and only dos attacks machines (specifically smurf), they are called packet monkeys. The dork that runs antionline was a packet monkey. On IRC they call them IRC Warriors!!!!. The funny thing is that I think they like being called that. They are just that dumb.
What no one seems to remember is that these losers were all windows users. The dorks that take over IRC channels. They were perfectly happy using windows because they didn't have to think. That all changed the first time one of these losers tried to use a lame win32 mIRC exploit on a linux user, and the linux user knocked them down with da ping o' death. That raised the bar. Then all these moron channel takeover dweebs (that take over channels all day for fun in the same way that you or I would play quake) decided to learn just enough linux to compile exploits. Then they learned about shells. Then they learned about bugtraq, and so on. Now these same morons are breaking into websites.
Some of the website defacements at least make me smile. My personal favorites are the LAPD, ValuJet and the Spice Girls. Six Flags was pretty funny. But when some dork breaks into www.nooneevervisitsthissite.com and puts up a list of shoutouts and demands in 3r33t hax0r sp34ch, I'm not very impressed. Lets see someone get www.ibm.com and post a list of what all the IBM VP's make. Now THAT would impress me.
As for the morons that are to lazy to learn, lets not call them crackers. That's to good for them. Lets just call them morons.
hahaahahha! I'm telling Kyles mom! v-chip for you! Lets just hope they put it in your head and not in the place you were planning to talk about for the rest of the shows lifespan!
You will need a realmedia server set up somewhere. The licensing is the kicker. Even a 100 stream license isn't cheap. After you have a RA server to point a stream at, you just need a reliable connection to stream your content across to the server. You can do decent quality voice only broadcasts with a single channel ISDN connection. It's the bandwidth and licensing on the server that are super important. I will say though, that were I work we do not offer this as a product. We do have a deal with one special client that does live video and sound across a cable modem, but it's flaky. The server took about 15 minutes to set up on digital unix on our end. The cool thing is that you can get a test server with 30 days worth of 60 streams for free.
And that's why you are stuck using a substandard solution. If your company only cared enough to hire someone clueful. I usually define clueful as someone that isn't constantly getting paged out of bed at 3am because the mission critical application running on NT died when the new DOS attack out for NT that week on bugtraq just met your server. Don't get me wrong. Hopefully your words will convince IT managers everywhere to stop betting their bread and butter on mediocre solutions and people.
I liked the fact that instead of reading an article about how messed up and skewed the benchmark was, I read an article that suggested things that can be done to better arm ourselves the next time something like this pops up.
Bloat happens because you hire cheap inexperienced programmers that you can treat like indentured servants. Bloat goes away when you have a global network of experienced talent working on the code, looking out for each other.
.........to mingle with the commoners!!! We so appreciate your unique point of view!! Gosh, I guess I should just stop right now because I'm an engineer and I surely don't need to react to this. You are wise and smarter than us. I will busy myself with writing songs about you.
Man. He seems like your basic opportunist attempting to stir up crap. Is there anything legal that can be done to him based upon all the evidence against him? We don't need people like this ruining our net. We certainly don't need people like him inflating issues and blatantly fabricating things. It ruins the lives of people like Kevin Mitnick. I hope this Kevin can find a way to sue him. I'm sure the packet monkeys are going to hose his website for a while, but I'm not really for that. He needs to be taught a legal lesson if that's possible.
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Hacker was someone that wrote code and/or made
their way into systems. Under hacker you also
had a special group of people called Social
Engineers. Some of the SE's were quite good like
burns.
Crackers broke copyright stuff for the win32
crowd. The win32 crowd were heavy into warez
and needed ereet people that could do courier
work for them. There were also many crackers
doing useful things like popping the top on
some big encryption. I think calling these lazy,
no talent morons that just learned how to type
make papasmurf on their fresh redslackbian
install while IRCing as root is disrespectful
to the crackers. Real crackers actually display
some sort of intelligence. I know crackers that
call themselve crackers (like a safe cracker?)
and all they do all day is sit around trying to
do things like learn how UPC codes at their
supermarket work.
There were these morons that stole code, hex
edited binaries and put there names in there,
and other lame stuff that lazy people do. We
usually called them morons.
see http://www.moron.com for TersIan's take
on this.
Lately those people
are being called script kiddies. If the particular
moron is afraid to run the pop3 exploit and
only dos attacks machines (specifically smurf),
they are called packet monkeys. The dork that
runs antionline was a packet monkey. On IRC they
call them IRC Warriors!!!!. The funny thing is
that I think they like being called that. They
are just that dumb.
What no one seems to remember is that
these losers were all windows users. The dorks
that take over IRC channels. They were perfectly
happy using windows because they didn't have to
think. That all changed the first time one of
these losers tried to use a lame win32 mIRC
exploit on a linux user, and the linux user
knocked them down with da ping o' death. That
raised the bar. Then all these moron channel
takeover dweebs (that take over channels all
day for fun in the same way that you or I would
play quake) decided to learn just enough linux
to compile exploits. Then they learned about
shells. Then they learned about bugtraq, and so
on. Now these same morons are breaking into
websites.
Some of the website defacements at least
make me smile. My personal favorites are the
LAPD, ValuJet and the Spice Girls. Six Flags was
pretty funny. But when some dork breaks into
www.nooneevervisitsthissite.com and puts up a list
of shoutouts and demands in 3r33t hax0r sp34ch,
I'm not very impressed. Lets see someone get
www.ibm.com and post a list of what all the IBM
VP's make. Now THAT would impress me.
As for the morons that are to lazy to learn, lets
not call them crackers. That's to good for them.
Lets just call them morons.
hahaahahha! I'm telling Kyles mom!
v-chip for you! Lets just hope they put
it in your head and not in the place you were
planning to talk about for the rest of the
shows lifespan!
You will need a realmedia server set up somewhere.
The licensing is the kicker. Even a 100 stream
license isn't cheap. After you have a RA server to
point a stream at, you just need a reliable
connection to stream your content across to the
server. You can do decent quality voice only
broadcasts with a single channel ISDN connection.
It's the bandwidth and licensing on the server
that are super important. I will say though, that
were I work we do not offer this as a product.
We do have a deal with one special client that
does live video and sound across a cable modem,
but it's flaky. The server took about 15 minutes
to set up on digital unix on our end. The cool
thing is that you can get a test server with
30 days worth of 60 streams for free.
Hope This Helps
And that's why you are stuck using a substandard
solution. If your company only cared enough to
hire someone clueful. I usually define clueful
as someone that isn't constantly getting paged
out of bed at 3am because the mission critical
application running on NT died when the new
DOS attack out for NT that week on bugtraq just
met your server. Don't get me wrong. Hopefully
your words will convince IT managers everywhere
to stop betting their bread and butter on
mediocre solutions and people.
I liked the fact that instead of reading an
article about how messed up and skewed the
benchmark was, I read an article that suggested
things that can be done to better arm ourselves
the next time something like this pops up.
Good Job.
Bloat happens because you hire cheap inexperienced
programmers that you can treat like indentured
servants. Bloat goes away when you have a global
network of experienced talent working on the
code, looking out for each other.
.........to mingle with the commoners!!!
We so appreciate your unique point of view!!
Gosh, I guess I should just stop right now
because I'm an engineer and I surely don't
need to react to this. You are wise and smarter
than us. I will busy myself with writing songs
about you.
Man. He seems like your basic opportunist attempting to stir up crap. Is there anything legal that can be done to him based upon all the evidence against him? We don't need people like this ruining our net. We certainly don't need people like him inflating issues and blatantly fabricating things. It ruins the lives of people like Kevin Mitnick. I hope this Kevin can find a way to sue him. I'm sure the packet monkeys are going to hose his website for a while, but I'm not really for that. He needs to be taught a legal lesson if that's possible.
I think you got it. That's what I was thinking. If I had only been fast enough *I* would have gotten the cool points. Oh well.