You can stand by your claims, but you've provided no evidence with regard to the average capacity for Indians to write software. Your anecdotal experience wouldn't be sufficient, and referring to moving call centers to foreign nations is hardly an equal comparison, on top of the fact that it is still largely without evidence.
You'll need to get used to the fact that only xenophobic people are going to take your argument without actual proof. Case studies, testimonials, education information with regard to the segment importing foreign software contracts, etc.
If you don't supply this, then you have no argument, just hand-waiving. I don't care what you _feel_ exported labor gets paid, or _feel_ they produce, I want citations and evidence.
In fact,,I like american culture too (not as much as european one because I like Middle Age and Renaissance:).
If you want to consider the artifacts of your past as part of your culture, then too, the U.S. is largely a part of your culture.
But all I can see is that US doesn't allow diversity.
The U.S. is composed of nothing but diversity. The U.S. is largely European in origin, still, but it houses large minorities that have infused its collective culture's language, art, religion, and general way of life. It is still plagued by the self-segregation that comes with that diversity, and while is certainly a homoginizing force, it's hard for anyone that has actually visted several different parts of the U.S. to think of it as anything but diverse.
All things that have sense for you is the money you can make imposing the US monopole in culture and economy.
Don't delude yourself into thinking there is a "U.S. economy" that reaches forth and spreads across the Earth leaving havoc and flame. Europeans and their companies are heavily vested in U.S. businesses. Europeans want just as much as any American to produce goods and to obtan money from them. They want the same success that allows you to have your job to spread, so that they can maximize their own wealth. I find it fairly amusing that the U.S. has become the scapegoat for all things economic, simply because of its wealth. We didn't invent trade. We didn't construct the natural phenomon that is trade. By and large, though, Americans don't think in terms of spreading "their" economy. They're not even interested in the economy, on average, and know relatively little about it. Something I am rather sure is true of Europe.
Americans don't on average care particularly about the cultures of foreign nations, unless they are a recent descendent of an immigrant, or those nations behave in a manner that is particularly offensive. Europeans censor themselves all of the time in various ways, institute excesses in social programs that only injure their economic growth in the long run, institute regressive taxes to fund all manner of programs, and in many other ways, simply act in a manner fairly baffling from a U.S. perspective. And the average American doesn't care. It might bother people with an affinity for business matters both here, and in Europe, but the American culture has no interest in destroying your regressive taxes or to set fire to your art. In case you haven't noticed, Americans do a lot of vacationing abroad. They're not going there to see Britney Spears concerts or McDonald's.
Now if you imprisoned people for teaching religion, or had slaves camps, took pop shots at our jets, or any other of a number of things that have come to be overly offensive to Western culture in general, then you, too would feel the spite of that fragment of the nation that pays attention to things outside of the border.
In general, I find that Europeans often use the U.S. as a scapegoat for the many things they dislike about humanity. Capitalism doesn't make you feel good, and yet you can't shake it because it's simply better. The U.S. institutes its share of socialist programs, but it's wealthy, and generally proscribes a philosophy of self-responsibility and hard work. So clearly all of the hardships of the world with regard to economics are specifcally the fault of the U.S. Yes, blame us for a natural process. Please. Please blame me, personally, for the poverty of Africa. Clearly there is a magic button that will fix the world, and those greedy Americans simply refuse to push it. Europe, afterall, has been saving the third world from poverty for generations.
Time homogenizes culture. This, too, must be the fault of the U.S. A country of immigrants from every place in the world, constantly racked by the pains of that fact, as it slowly evolves into a state that will hopefully consist of considerably less segregation in culture. Your way of life...My way of life may not be preserved. That may trouble you, but it has really nothing to do with the U.S. and everything to do with the process of desegregating the world. If the U.S. didn't make such a wonderful target, it would be someone else's fault.
You're blaming the U.S. for your employment problems? Your cultural problems? You've definitely topped the cake with the inability to take responsibility for yourself. Definitely one of your cultural problems, but it sure doesn't smell like it came from the U.S.
There certainly are a lot of so-called "Gnutella developers" roaming around Slashdot today. You would think one or two of them would actually be aware of the history of Gnutella 2.
I wasn't really looking for you to take your gripes with his article up with me, I was pointing out probably hadn't read the article, in a post flaming someone else for being uninformed. I don't imagine Apple will port OS X to the Itanium, but that is neither here nor there.
I share your sentiments. So...many...ideologues...so...little...thinking. An entire subculture of kooks fighting a war of banality. I suddenly feel like a civilian in a battlefield with bombs of stupid falling all around me.
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You can stand by your claims, but you've provided no evidence with regard to the average capacity for Indians to write software. Your anecdotal experience wouldn't be sufficient, and referring to moving call centers to foreign nations is hardly an equal comparison, on top of the fact that it is still largely without evidence.
You'll need to get used to the fact that only xenophobic people are going to take your argument without actual proof. Case studies, testimonials, education information with regard to the segment importing foreign software contracts, etc.
If you don't supply this, then you have no argument, just hand-waiving. I don't care what you _feel_ exported labor gets paid, or _feel_ they produce, I want citations and evidence.
You do know what ClearType is, right? Fire up gnome-font-properties and tell me the equivalent of "ClearType." If you can't, stop.
In fact, ,I like american culture too (not as much as european one because I like Middle Age and Renaissance :).
If you want to consider the artifacts of your past as part of your culture, then too, the U.S. is largely a part of your culture.
But all I can see is that US doesn't allow diversity.
The U.S. is composed of nothing but diversity. The U.S. is largely European in origin, still, but it houses large minorities that have infused its collective culture's language, art, religion, and general way of life. It is still plagued by the self-segregation that comes with that diversity, and while is certainly a homoginizing force, it's hard for anyone that has actually visted several different parts of the U.S. to think of it as anything but diverse.
All things that have sense for you is the money you can make imposing the US monopole in culture and economy.
Don't delude yourself into thinking there is a "U.S. economy" that reaches forth and spreads across the Earth leaving havoc and flame. Europeans and their companies are heavily vested in U.S. businesses. Europeans want just as much as any American to produce goods and to obtan money from them. They want the same success that allows you to have your job to spread, so that they can maximize their own wealth. I find it fairly amusing that the U.S. has become the scapegoat for all things economic, simply because of its wealth. We didn't invent trade. We didn't construct the natural phenomon that is trade. By and large, though, Americans don't think in terms of spreading "their" economy. They're not even interested in the economy, on average, and know relatively little about it. Something I am rather sure is true of Europe.
Americans don't on average care particularly about the cultures of foreign nations, unless they are a recent descendent of an immigrant, or those nations behave in a manner that is particularly offensive. Europeans censor themselves all of the time in various ways, institute excesses in social programs that only injure their economic growth in the long run, institute regressive taxes to fund all manner of programs, and in many other ways, simply act in a manner fairly baffling from a U.S. perspective. And the average American doesn't care. It might bother people with an affinity for business matters both here, and in Europe, but the American culture has no interest in destroying your regressive taxes or to set fire to your art. In case you haven't noticed, Americans do a lot of vacationing abroad. They're not going there to see Britney Spears concerts or McDonald's. Now if you imprisoned people for teaching religion, or had slaves camps, took pop shots at our jets, or any other of a number of things that have come to be overly offensive to Western culture in general, then you, too would feel the spite of that fragment of the nation that pays attention to things outside of the border.
In general, I find that Europeans often use the U.S. as a scapegoat for the many things they dislike about humanity. Capitalism doesn't make you feel good, and yet you can't shake it because it's simply better. The U.S. institutes its share of socialist programs, but it's wealthy, and generally proscribes a philosophy of self-responsibility and hard work. So clearly all of the hardships of the world with regard to economics are specifcally the fault of the U.S. Yes, blame us for a natural process. Please. Please blame me, personally, for the poverty of Africa. Clearly there is a magic button that will fix the world, and those greedy Americans simply refuse to push it. Europe, afterall, has been saving the third world from poverty for generations.
Time homogenizes culture. This, too, must be the fault of the U.S. A country of immigrants from every place in the world, constantly racked by the pains of that fact, as it slowly evolves into a state that will hopefully consist of considerably less segregation in culture. Your way of life...My way of life may not be preserved. That may trouble you, but it has really nothing to do with the U.S. and everything to do with the process of desegregating the world. If the U.S. didn't make such a wonderful target, it would be someone else's fault.
You're blaming the U.S. for your employment problems? Your cultural problems? You've definitely topped the cake with the inability to take responsibility for yourself. Definitely one of your cultural problems, but it sure doesn't smell like it came from the U.S.
Golly, how did man deal with infections before anti-biotics?
That was some good critical thinking there, sport-o.
What are you, like five?
There certainly are a lot of so-called "Gnutella developers" roaming around Slashdot today. You would think one or two of them would actually be aware of the history of Gnutella 2.
After all, this is Slashdot. It's not like were all a bunch of idiots
No, it really is.
I hope you realize that you really come off badly when you present yourself as you've done in this thread.
I'm sorry, but I don't have to read Dvorak to know its crap.
I don't disagree with you. You need to read Dvorak to comment on what he says, though.
I wasn't really looking for you to take your gripes with his article up with me, I was pointing out probably hadn't read the article, in a post flaming someone else for being uninformed. I don't imagine Apple will port OS X to the Itanium, but that is neither here nor there.
Well too bad you didn't bother to read the article, where he clearly mentions the Itanium.
Seconded.
I share your sentiments. So...many...ideologues...so...little...thinking.
An entire subculture of kooks fighting a war of banality. I suddenly feel like a civilian in a battlefield with bombs of stupid falling all around me.