I never boot off of raid so i've never had this problem I use raid for things that need the disk speed, like multi-video streams and games. Other than that I find booting from raid a danger and a waste of time.
Well, in the states, we have very slow mobile internet. EDGE should help a bit. I do know verizon offers highspeed mobile internet but its way too damn expensive. For now mobiles will be limited because of their lackluster support of what many deem standard web practices. Flash and other multimedia won't be going away anytime soon. Mobiles even have a hard time with javascript at least the ones I've used. Ever try to pull up local.google.com and get directions? Well it just doesn't work. Google forcibly tries to redirect to a WAP site because its better suited for less capable devices. For now that sadly includes mobile phones. Though I will jump for joy when we will be able to sustain broadband speeds from a phone. Then i'll be one of those people who uses their cell phone as a modem in remote locations. But even then it may be a futile attem considering the way Wi-Max may turn out.
You seem to be noting exceptions to practical programming languages. It's like using BrainFuck to do everything you need. It is indeed a turning complete language, but you wouldn't use it unless you just wanted to have some fun.
In reponse to writing code, and debugging it. Well if written well and I try to keep good practices, I usually don't have a problem debugging C. As programs get larger eventually CPU consumption becomes a problem. And using Perl or another scripting language just looses practicality. And C / C++ offers better memory managment that other languages just don't have.
In either case , you have to make sacrificies. CPU consumption time versus program needs.
I guess we can agree to disagree on the proper use of languages. I just can't see myself ever using perl for a industry application. I love perl just because of the flow and ease of use. It's powerful and flexible, but somethings must be written in other languages. I wouldn't write an OpenGL game in Java though it can be done, it'd be slow. I stick to what I know is fast C / C++.
As far as readablity it all depends on the progamer. I can write clean perl and clean C. Both easy on the eyes. Yet I find the flexiabilty of perl to have its down fall. You can quickly write 'ugly' perl because of its flexability. C forces a bit more stricter syntax than perl , but then again its still quite easy for me to write 'ugly' C.
When it boils down to it, all is left in the hands of the programmer, how clean or dirty he keeps his/her hands is up to him/her.
I am sorry, I am a bit confused by your argument. Move away from C++ to what exactly. The only other languages you mentioned where Perl, Python, Ruby, or Scheme. I have yet to use Ruby or Scheme, but I did look up some things on them.
Most of those languages are scripting lanugages and aren't really what you'd program a major application in. I know I user perl for sys admin tasks and quick hacks to just 'get things done'
If you're going to beat up on C++ tell them to move away give a decent language to move to. And you never explained what Java had that C++ doesn't.
Please tell me why I want to move away from a language such a C++ or even its predecessor C. Those languages are solid, and fast. You can do most anything with them. And the cleanliness of the program is left to the programmer, so if you develope bad practices you'll write bad code. If done propertly I see nothing wrong with using C++.
This might, just might be a reason Java is taught now. Java forces an OO model. C++ is very liberal on this matter. In C you have to take care of your own garbage collection, Java takes care of most of this for you. And java is pass by val ( reference) which C++. I'm not all to sure what they have against the use of pointers. Ofcourse this is just a speculation.
On a side, but nostalgic note:
Man i remember learning pointer arthimatic that was some good stuff and a great learning process. You get to learn first hand what makes up strings. And how to manipulate them to their full potential. There some serious power behind this language.
One thing should be noted, there are CS AP A and AP AB. The AB is much much different from the A test. It goes into data structures and things like that.
The test had some sick obsession with recurson, infact alot of the code was put in a way to obfuscate the main purpose to require a desk checking approach. I was surprised only 2 questions (not exact but close to) involved the Marine Bio case study.
Cocoa garbage collection isn't really much to maintain as it is. Usually simple release statments will do it. But after you get used to the Objective-C style it isn't that bad of a language still a little qwerky at times. But it worked great of next-step and it works good for OS X.
First thing, Apple already has an open source link, FreeBSD, BSD whichever one. Why would it port itself to Linux when most things will compile with very little or no changes. The only thing that is a problem is binary releases. But just give the source and you needn't worry about those things. Apple has no need to switch to linux. Why switch from Unix to a Unix clone?
Microsoft, bring themselves to Linux, I highly doubt that. Microsoft might make a move on the PPC architechture. But this is speculation because of the XBOX 2 hardware specs include PPC 970 derivatives, if not actual 970's. But that is just speculation.
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I never boot off of raid so i've never had this problem I use raid for things that need the disk speed, like multi-video streams and games. Other than that I find booting from raid a danger and a waste of time.
Highpoint makes great cards!
check out their controllers and they work under every OS, well at that!
Solid gold house might not be too confortable. ever touched something 24k? Not a pretty picture.
Well, in the states, we have very slow mobile internet. EDGE should help a bit. I do know verizon offers highspeed mobile internet but its way too damn expensive. For now mobiles will be limited because of their lackluster support of what many deem standard web practices. Flash and other multimedia won't be going away anytime soon. Mobiles even have a hard time with javascript at least the ones I've used. Ever try to pull up local.google.com
and get directions? Well it just doesn't work. Google forcibly tries to redirect to a WAP site because its better suited for less capable devices. For now that sadly includes mobile phones. Though I will jump for joy when we will be able to sustain broadband speeds from a phone. Then i'll be one of those people who uses their cell phone as a modem in remote locations. But even then it may be a futile attem considering the way Wi-Max may turn out.
All this iTunes support, yet still not Moto Bluetooth Support. Nice going Apple and friends -_-
You seem to be noting exceptions to practical programming languages. It's like using BrainFuck to do everything you need. It is indeed a turning complete language, but you wouldn't use it unless you just wanted to have some fun.
In reponse to writing code, and debugging it. Well if written well and I try to keep good practices, I usually don't have a problem debugging C. As programs get larger eventually CPU consumption becomes a problem. And using Perl or another scripting language just looses practicality. And C / C++ offers better memory managment that other languages just don't have.
In either case , you have to make sacrificies. CPU consumption time versus program needs.
I guess we can agree to disagree on the proper use of languages. I just can't see myself ever using perl for a industry application. I love perl just because of the flow and ease of use. It's powerful and flexible, but somethings must be written in other languages. I wouldn't write an OpenGL game in Java though it can be done, it'd be slow. I stick to what I know is fast C / C++.
As far as readablity it all depends on the progamer. I can write clean perl and clean C. Both easy on the eyes. Yet I find the flexiabilty of perl to have its down fall. You can quickly write 'ugly' perl because of its flexability. C forces a bit more stricter syntax than perl , but then again its still quite easy for me to write 'ugly' C.
When it boils down to it, all is left in the hands of the programmer, how clean or dirty he keeps his/her hands is up to him/her.
I am sorry, I am a bit confused by your argument. Move away from C++ to what exactly. The only other languages you mentioned where Perl, Python, Ruby, or Scheme. I have yet to use Ruby or Scheme, but I did look up some things on them.
Most of those languages are scripting lanugages and aren't really what you'd program a major application in. I know I user perl for sys admin tasks and quick hacks to just 'get things done'
If you're going to beat up on C++ tell them to move away give a decent language to move to. And you never explained what Java had that C++ doesn't.
Please tell me why I want to move away from a language such a C++ or even its predecessor C. Those languages are solid, and fast. You can do most anything with them. And the cleanliness of the program is left to the programmer, so if you develope bad practices you'll write bad code. If done propertly I see nothing wrong with using C++.
This might, just might be a reason Java is taught now.
:
Java forces an OO model. C++ is very liberal on this matter.
In C you have to take care of your own garbage collection, Java takes care of most of this for you. And java is pass by val ( reference) which C++. I'm not all to sure what they have against the use of pointers. Ofcourse this is just a speculation.
On a side, but nostalgic note
Man i remember learning pointer arthimatic that was some good stuff and a great learning process. You get to learn first hand what makes up strings. And how to manipulate them to their full potential. There some serious power behind this language.
indeed it was.
and i want the find the author of this test and beat him in the face for the amount of recursion included on this test!
C++ was a lot easier.
One thing should be noted, there are CS AP A and AP AB.
The AB is much much different from the A test.
It goes into data structures and things like that.
The test had some sick obsession with recurson, infact alot of the code was put in a way to obfuscate the main purpose to require a desk checking approach. I was surprised only 2 questions (not exact but close to) involved the Marine Bio case study.
Cocoa garbage collection isn't really much to maintain as it is. Usually simple release statments will do it. But after you get used to the Objective-C style it isn't that bad of a language still a little qwerky at times. But it worked great of next-step and it works good for OS X.
First thing, Apple already has an open source link, FreeBSD, BSD whichever one. Why would it port itself to Linux when most things will compile with very little or no changes. The only thing that is a problem is binary releases. But just give the source and you needn't worry about those things. Apple has no need to switch to linux. Why switch from Unix to a Unix clone?
Microsoft, bring themselves to Linux, I highly doubt that. Microsoft might make a move on the PPC architechture. But this is speculation because of the XBOX 2 hardware specs include PPC 970 derivatives, if not actual 970's. But that is just speculation.