As has been mentioned over and over, the SCO business model of recent seems less about product development and more about legal + accounting maneuvering.
You hit the nail on the head. Except has SCO spent ANYTHING on development? If SCO spent one quarter the amount on development of their product as they spend on lawyers and BS they might have had something people really want to buy.
People bought into SCO ODT because it was cool, complete and had all the features. They haven't produced anything since, 17 years is a long time.
Its development has so stagnated that it is now a waste of download time to get it. Their UNIX fork is now stale and EOL. Other forks will live on.
So, does anyone really believe that piracy costs Canadians about $900 per person per year?
I do, in fact it is much more. Just that it is the total load government taxes that the pirates take from us. This is typical Canadian government misdirection. This sounds more like a ploy to make for an ever bigger government to fix a problem blown far out of proportion.
Think, 2 of 3 days each of us has to buy a CD for life, maybe full of DRM/trojans too.
xenix used to be a big thing - back in the good 'ole days. It's just dumb that they did this. Still someone had to run interference for M$.
There is a old saying, dance with M$ and you will sooner or later go out of business. I do remember the Microsoft copyright on a Xenix and ODT boot...
This is not a sad day at all. Time to rejoice, FOSS just won it's first real serious attack and Microsoft strategies failed miserably. Nice timing too with a Vista flop in the wind. Microsoft cracks are getting bigger...my CEO now knows of Linux/UNIX, and does not fear it.
Your management aught to take a very serious long look at why they need SCO and get rid of it.
Don't get me wrong, SCO at one time with ODT was a premier product. But since the blood suckers MBA got a hold of SCO it has been a down hill slide all the way.
I am sure there is a hidden agenda. M$ is up to something, with Novell partnership as well. Maybe Microsoft Linux is coming and Sun wants in for the server hardware sales? Maybe punishment for Dell offering Linux as HP is also getting in the act. Or just perhaps a realization that a real server runs xNIX.
What if Microsoft bought Sun and Novell?
This of course this is just conjecture. But one thing is for sure, M$ is up to something.
Or maybe as the old saying goes, keep your enemies closer...
It does help a little to sign your own certs and inspect them ALL the time on every use. That is, if you DON'T get the pop-up, then you got someone in the middle. Remember this when you are at work, SSL can be decoded in the middle and re-encoded.
Don't put too much faith in SSL. Yep, even with SSL, someone can play a man in the middle attack on you.
Use PGP if it is email. But the envelope still must disclose the destination mailbox. But it could be a simple gmail account as the destination as not to give out the recipient.
IPSec is a better choice for remote services. The only thing you give up there is 2 end points and a byte count.
If it is anonymous you want, lots of subtle ways to hide messages in the Internet. More than I could count.
probably because there are many IT guys here with the experience to manage large networks of Linux, BSD, etc machines.
And growing.
It isn't the IT technical types holding up Linux deployment. It is the CIO that likes lobster with MS sales and the people who know nothing of OSes including MS. Maybe a little to do with "bundling". Thought that was illegal, but OK for M$. The last thing I/T wants to do change and learn. Like when the PCs came in, I/T was the last to adopt. When Linux comes in, I/T will be the last to adopt. (Except for some;))
The reality is NetApp is in trouble. Lets face it, 2TB of storage yesterday was big bucks. Today, it is 4 Seagate drives at Best Buy and fit in one PC. Cluster 4 dual AMD x2's together on 1000GB interconnects and it has never been cheaper to spin 8TB into your own appliance. Do it with Linux or Solaris. Or like NetApps, BSD.
Same thing happened with SCO. Shrinking user base from competition and poor product maintenance. Too much money for Gocci shoes and not enough R&D. NetApp, good-bye.
Now it runs as a DB in UNIX. Had to deal with it for 2 clients. Also known as UniVerse with/u2 file systems, Ultimate Systems. Yep, I know that one.
What an I/O pig. The more disk I/O bandwidth you can give this dinosaur the better. No kidding. I couldn't recommended PIC/PICK to my worst enemy, as they would come after me. I added up the disk I/O blocks need to simply do monthly financial statements for just 200,000 accounts and could not believe the numbers I was seeing. And this application can be bought today!!
Put it on Linux with Postgres with 1/10 the hardware cost and enjoy. As unless you can run PICK (or derived systems) entirely out of RAM with abosolutely no page/swap forget it.
Or if your management is dumb enough to buy it, suggest the sales people load up a system with all your data, do a real report and watch. It doesn't even have transactional safety. Be sure to crash test it half way through.
Why not? In the U.S., don't we already record fingerprints at birth? Let's just all do this.
While I am not against it for identification, we must not just look at the positive effects of such a move, but the inevitable erosion of privacy to include:
Correlation to health risk factors and insurances, you pay more because...
Correlation of violent tendencies because...
Who is best for you to mate with, if your allowed.
What you can eat because of your genetics
Job availability for government and other jobs (don't tell me they will not do it)
Oh, they might pass some privacy laws and restrictions of use at first. But the data is just too valuable before some geneticist says we can predict this person is 8 times more likely to require expensive health care. Maybe over 1000 years, privacy laws are reduced and government starts telling you who you can mate with to geep the DNA quality up.
...the two most important words in the summary: in Australia.
Yep. A real drag.
Probably just testing the market to see if it is worth ticking of the Redmond monopolistic gorilla. For offering Linux to the US or Canada - Ballmer will have a fit.
Libertarians might say society will do fine as long as everyone minds their own balance sheet.
If this is all of what you think libertarian means, your obviously one of those left wing high controlling types that thinks it is good and cool to mess with other peoples lives.
Libertarianism is about giving people choice without government and others telling them how to do it. It is about freedom of choice. It isn't anarchy either, just that those that would control us need a limit on how far they can go.
The founders of the United States were libertarians as they had the fresh taste of too much British control and taxation. That taxation was less than today's rates. Libertarian society fosters growth and innovation while as one socialist society we stagnate telling each other how to behave.
Here I see a bunch of people getting shafted by two corporations that don't want to play nice
Actually, I am sure Microsoft had this little technical piece well tested before Vista was released. Yes, well tested. Microsoft has been known to make their products in a way that is intentionally intended not to work with servers not their own. Look a kerberos as another such intent. That is, monopolistic by design.
The reason they do it is to penalize ISPs that don't run Microsoft servers and to squeeze out tried and true technologies of UNIX and Linux. And it works.
It's just four motherboards sitting in a single frame. connected by an ethernet switch.
While I agree with you that there is zero technical innovation here, there is a maturity in the political system where $2,000,000 isn't required to provide a similar service. It exemplifies that you no longer need to be rich to super-compute.
I hate being a pessimist, but packaging OSS in binaries without mentioning it is probably being incredibly common.
Quite common actually. I estimate at least 50% of I/T purchases today contain some amount of open source and do not disclose it. Worse yet, many deny it slamming open source. I often run "strings" on it, or compare outputs. ldd for which binaries it is linked to. It is often surprising what you can find.
Nah, it shows what a powerful monopoly they have developed.
Microsoft aught to remember how fast Netscape, Visicalc, WordPerfect, ccMail, and a long road kill list lost to monopolistic competition. For functional competition, it will be worse once people overcome unfounded fear of change.
Apple knows this first hand, remember Apple IIe and MS-DOS? I just hope Apple knows revenge is best served cold.
And more and more are turning Linux, Dell isn't selling them because people are 100% happy with Vista. This market can turn on a dime once people realize FUD is FUD. My company just had a fall out with M$, is now considering Linux... go figure. Some fought for years to keep it out (they didn't succeed) and are now gone.
It's kind of sad that "Nerds" would be scared of a simple technology upgrade.
Not really at all afraid. "Nurds" already know not to trust the ISP, that is why ssh, VPN, PGP, IPSec etc when they are communicating with others. I use these all the time for remote working.
But sometimes do it plain text (/.), you know a Fed will look at this message if I mention Bin Laden. Presuming they are really looking for him.
I am beginning to wonder if government fears it's own people.
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As has been mentioned over and over, the SCO business model of recent seems less about product development and more about legal + accounting maneuvering.
You hit the nail on the head. Except has SCO spent ANYTHING on development? If SCO spent one quarter the amount on development of their product as they spend on lawyers and BS they might have had something people really want to buy.
People bought into SCO ODT because it was cool, complete and had all the features. They haven't produced anything since, 17 years is a long time.
Its development has so stagnated that it is now a waste of download time to get it. Their UNIX fork is now stale and EOL. Other forks will live on.
So, does anyone really believe that piracy costs Canadians about $900 per person per year?
I do, in fact it is much more. Just that it is the total load government taxes that the pirates take from us. This is typical Canadian government misdirection. This sounds more like a ploy to make for an ever bigger government to fix a problem blown far out of proportion.
Think, 2 of 3 days each of us has to buy a CD for life, maybe full of DRM/trojans too.
xenix used to be a big thing - back in the good 'ole days. It's just dumb that they did this. Still someone had to run interference for M$.
There is a old saying, dance with M$ and you will sooner or later go out of business. I do remember the Microsoft copyright on a Xenix and ODT boot...
This is not a sad day at all. Time to rejoice, FOSS just won it's first real serious attack and Microsoft strategies failed miserably. Nice timing too with a Vista flop in the wind. Microsoft cracks are getting bigger...my CEO now knows of Linux/UNIX, and does not fear it.
I'm wondering if SCO CEO is having any troubles sleeping these days.
Especially if the accountants talk.
Maybe the SEC is just waiting for the judgment, then roll in. A little stock manipulation with cooked books.... fry the CEO.
It will be interesting as this unfolds as I am sure their are juicy stories in here somewhere. I mean real juicy stories.
Does that mean SCO sold 100% more units that day?
Your management aught to take a very serious long look at why they need SCO and get rid of it.
Don't get me wrong, SCO at one time with ODT was a premier product. But since the blood suckers MBA got a hold of SCO it has been a down hill slide all the way.
Anaconda is already in use.
I was thinking SAP, "Simply another Python". Oops, that is taken too.
Yep, my SUV and SUT melted the polar caps of Mars.
Definitely and interesting perspective on how the continents are tied together. Sort of fits too how man has migrated.
Why would you want to run an unpatched XP box?
That is simple, to let everyone else test the patches first. Second, so you can choose the time where you might have problems.
I am sure there is a hidden agenda. M$ is up to something, with Novell partnership as well. Maybe Microsoft Linux is coming and Sun wants in for the server hardware sales? Maybe punishment for Dell offering Linux as HP is also getting in the act. Or just perhaps a realization that a real server runs xNIX.
What if Microsoft bought Sun and Novell?
This of course this is just conjecture. But one thing is for sure, M$ is up to something.
Or maybe as the old saying goes, keep your enemies closer...
Try this site for the issue: http://www.css-security.com/downloads/papers/real_life_man-in-the-middle-attack.pdf
It does help a little to sign your own certs and inspect them ALL the time on every use. That is, if you DON'T get the pop-up, then you got someone in the middle. Remember this when you are at work, SSL can be decoded in the middle and re-encoded.
Don't put too much faith in SSL. Yep, even with SSL, someone can play a man in the middle attack on you.
Use PGP if it is email. But the envelope still must disclose the destination mailbox. But it could be a simple gmail account as the destination as not to give out the recipient.
IPSec is a better choice for remote services. The only thing you give up there is 2 end points and a byte count.
If it is anonymous you want, lots of subtle ways to hide messages in the Internet. More than I could count.
probably because there are many IT guys here with the experience to manage large networks of Linux, BSD, etc machines.
And growing.
It isn't the IT technical types holding up Linux deployment. It is the CIO that likes lobster with MS sales and the people who know nothing of OSes including MS. Maybe a little to do with "bundling". Thought that was illegal, but OK for M$. The last thing I/T wants to do change and learn. Like when the PCs came in, I/T was the last to adopt. When Linux comes in, I/T will be the last to adopt. (Except for some ;))
The reality is NetApp is in trouble. Lets face it, 2TB of storage yesterday was big bucks. Today, it is 4 Seagate drives at Best Buy and fit in one PC. Cluster 4 dual AMD x2's together on 1000GB interconnects and it has never been cheaper to spin 8TB into your own appliance. Do it with Linux or Solaris. Or like NetApps, BSD.
Same thing happened with SCO. Shrinking user base from competition and poor product maintenance. Too much money for Gocci shoes and not enough R&D. NetApp, good-bye.
What are some of your favorite applications which are a little less bloated?
For compilers, this is easy. Borland Turbo Pascal.
In 29K or so it amazed me they could pack in all of:
But will agree, it is ancient and I haven't used it for years.
You can read more on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_operating_system
Now it runs as a DB in UNIX. Had to deal with it for 2 clients. Also known as UniVerse with /u2 file systems, Ultimate Systems. Yep, I know that one.
What an I/O pig. The more disk I/O bandwidth you can give this dinosaur the better. No kidding. I couldn't recommended PIC/PICK to my worst enemy, as they would come after me. I added up the disk I/O blocks need to simply do monthly financial statements for just 200,000 accounts and could not believe the numbers I was seeing. And this application can be bought today!!
Put it on Linux with Postgres with 1/10 the hardware cost and enjoy. As unless you can run PICK (or derived systems) entirely out of RAM with abosolutely no page/swap forget it.
Or if your management is dumb enough to buy it, suggest the sales people load up a system with all your data, do a real report and watch. It doesn't even have transactional safety. Be sure to crash test it half way through.
Why not? In the U.S., don't we already record fingerprints at birth? Let's just all do this.
While I am not against it for identification, we must not just look at the positive effects of such a move, but the inevitable erosion of privacy to include:
Oh, they might pass some privacy laws and restrictions of use at first. But the data is just too valuable before some geneticist says we can predict this person is 8 times more likely to require expensive health care. Maybe over 1000 years, privacy laws are reduced and government starts telling you who you can mate with to geep the DNA quality up.
Yep. A real drag.
Probably just testing the market to see if it is worth ticking of the Redmond monopolistic gorilla. For offering Linux to the US or Canada - Ballmer will have a fit.
Libertarians might say society will do fine as long as everyone minds their own balance sheet.
If this is all of what you think libertarian means, your obviously one of those left wing high controlling types that thinks it is good and cool to mess with other peoples lives.
Libertarianism is about giving people choice without government and others telling them how to do it. It is about freedom of choice. It isn't anarchy either, just that those that would control us need a limit on how far they can go.
The founders of the United States were libertarians as they had the fresh taste of too much British control and taxation. That taxation was less than today's rates. Libertarian society fosters growth and innovation while as one socialist society we stagnate telling each other how to behave.
Here I see a bunch of people getting shafted by two corporations that don't want to play nice
Actually, I am sure Microsoft had this little technical piece well tested before Vista was released. Yes, well tested. Microsoft has been known to make their products in a way that is intentionally intended not to work with servers not their own. Look a kerberos as another such intent. That is, monopolistic by design.
The reason they do it is to penalize ISPs that don't run Microsoft servers and to squeeze out tried and true technologies of UNIX and Linux. And it works.
What are you talking about?
I think the idea is that what Microsoft did to others, could happen to them. ;)
It's just four motherboards sitting in a single frame. connected by an ethernet switch.
While I agree with you that there is zero technical innovation here, there is a maturity in the political system where $2,000,000 isn't required to provide a similar service. It exemplifies that you no longer need to be rich to super-compute.
I hate being a pessimist, but packaging OSS in binaries without mentioning it is probably being incredibly common.
Quite common actually. I estimate at least 50% of I/T purchases today contain some amount of open source and do not disclose it. Worse yet, many deny it slamming open source. I often run "strings" on it, or compare outputs. ldd for which binaries it is linked to. It is often surprising what you can find.
Nah, it shows what a powerful monopoly they have developed.
Microsoft aught to remember how fast Netscape, Visicalc, WordPerfect, ccMail, and a long road kill list lost to monopolistic competition. For functional competition, it will be worse once people overcome unfounded fear of change.
Apple knows this first hand, remember Apple IIe and MS-DOS? I just hope Apple knows revenge is best served cold.
And more and more are turning Linux, Dell isn't selling them because people are 100% happy with Vista. This market can turn on a dime once people realize FUD is FUD. My company just had a fall out with M$, is now considering Linux... go figure. Some fought for years to keep it out (they didn't succeed) and are now gone.
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X-Windows for men, MS-Windows for boys.
It's kind of sad that "Nerds" would be scared of a simple technology upgrade.
Not really at all afraid. "Nurds" already know not to trust the ISP, that is why ssh, VPN, PGP, IPSec etc when they are communicating with others. I use these all the time for remote working.
But sometimes do it plain text (/.), you know a Fed will look at this message if I mention Bin Laden. Presuming they are really looking for him.
I am beginning to wonder if government fears it's own people.