You've helped "do something about it" already, by extending this little thread, you've allowed me to publish my "paranoid" ideas quite lucidly. Specifically, the threat which biofuel poses to the petroleum industry; be it "greasel", "hempoil", or whatever else works.
The entire time you've only responded with namecalling: "stoner", lunatic", "whackjob".
Allow me to encapsulate this entire discussion:
Me: "Biofuel is an economic and ecologically sound alternative to energy sources derived from petroleum. Therefore big oil is scared of it."
You: "Your a stoner, lunatic, paranoid whackjob."
Me: "You're obviously either a naive or paid troll."
You: "Your a stoner, lunatic, whackjob with paranoid fantasies."
13,000 miles on hemp oil in an un-modified Mercedes diesel is no fantasy (www.HempCar.org). The fact that the our so called "liberal media" hasn't published anything about it is no fantasy either.
C'mon. Give us some hard facts to deal with about the pragmatic difficulties of biofuel alternatives.
Make me go back to the drawing board and do more research and reading. Gimme some book titles or journal articles. Help enlighten the debate.
What you (a troll) or I (a paranoid bookworm) are is irrelevant to the topic.
De-centralized growth and development of biofuel alternatives would solve a whole host of global problems which are assuredly going to worsen over the next several decades.
Here's where I bow out of this thread.
Congratulations. You get the last word in.
Make it a great closing argument. Try to stay on topic.
I'm a paranoid lunatic because I made noise over what appears to be collusion and conspiracy in the energy industry.
How silly of me. That would never happen in America!
Yeah, your probably right. Enron was just a fluke.
All the other corporate giants with their fingers in the pork barrel are really fine upstanding U.S. corporate citizens who believe in protecting the environment, avoiding armed conflict over foreign oil fields, and wouldn't mind at all if they lost centralized control over energy production and sales if hemp, corn, soybean oil, or french fries (uh... I meant Freedom Fries) became a viable source of energy for millions of consumers.
The HempCar probably isn't real (www.hempcar.org). They prolly faked it on a soundstage just like the lunar landings!
Keep up the great work 007. Blind allegiance to the party line probably will land you on a rewarding career path. The last thing any Iron Triangle employer wants in an employee who questions motives.
Keep your head down and your mouth shut and you'll go far.
I figure one of two things:
1. Either you actually believe that Corporate America and the government does not spend money on manipulating public opinion,
2. or you'd have me and everyone else believe that.
You're either unbelievably naive, have a vested interest in spreading FUD about alternative energy and anyone who proffers such notions, or, like I already said and believe, you are just another slashdot troll.
And if you really don't believe there are government funded trolls, then I have some land in Florida I'd like to sell to you.
*snip* thank you for taking some time out between bong hits to enlighten us all about your paranoid fantasies.
*un-snip*
First, a couple of facts; I don't do bong hits. I read books. You know, those things on the shelf with pages between the covers?
And the more I read about history, the more paranoid I do become. In light of current events, I highly recommend Soldat by Siegfired Knappe and Ted Brusaw.
But I'm moving off topic (without drugs even:)
It's also a fact, (not a fantasy) that the DEA is still attempting to ban the sale and import of hemp products on the laughable premise that hemp THC levels classify it as an illicit substance. This is a joke in the scientific community.
Because of the rapid, low maintenance growth rate of hemp, it is possilbe to derive much more useable, processed fuel from hemp (hemp oil or methanol) than from corn.
Hemp oil is what the Hemp Car burns (www.hempcar.org) since diesels are really just oil burners.
Comparisons to corn are frequently used because corn has a relatively fast growth rate.
In other words, hemp makes good economic and ecological sense as a petroleum alternative.
This is why hemp scares the hell outta the petroleum industry. That's not paranoia. That's someone with a lot of financial clout protecting their market share (Why the hell do you think we were invaded by Texas? Sorry. I could't resist a little conspiracy theory humor.)
But, apparently, some people are perfectly comfortable with the energy mafia pulling us by the short hairs at the gas pump, because where the hell else are you gonna fill your gas tank?
That is what biofuel is all about. NOT being owned.
But you don't have to believe us paranoid bookworms. This information is well documented.
I'd recommend starting at www.jackherer.com.
As for my paranoid fantasies? Well, actually, my fantasies are not so paranoid, and they usually involve being abducted by space alien chicks with lots of piercings who are into liquid latex and want me to tattoo them:) Again, off topic, but I felt some clarification was necessary.
And remember kids; If your vote didn't count, they wouldn't bother rigging elections.
While I'm at it: Remember kids, some trolls really do work for the government; because, on the Internet, no one knows you're a dog.
Are you suggesting that one can get "high" from smoking HEMP? That's news to me.
Apparently the confusion between hemp and marijuana still persists in some circles. I'm assuming that you actually believe hemp and marijuana are interchangeable terms. They are not.
That myth was born of the "reefer madness" campaign in the late nineteen thirties because rich industrialists saw hemp as a threat to petroleum, timber, and chemical industry profits. The Dupont brothers figured strongly is that misinformation campaign.
Not all of us who believe that hemp is a wonder crop are unproductive stoners who spend all day on the couch pining for marijuana legalization.
Although, if you'd like to debate the misinformation surrounding that drug, I'd love to take you on.
Pharamcology and public policy never even shook hands in this country (and I'm quoting someone else, here).
Oh... and by the way; I've never tried smoking corn. I'm afraid of getting the popcorn kernals lodged up my nostrils.;)
Ahem... may I please direct your attention to http://www.hempcar.org.
Ibentold that you can get more biofuel from corn than from hemp... HOWEVER, hemp grows much faster than corn. Therefore...
Makes you wonder what the drug war is really about.
Pervert the dominant paradigm.
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You've helped "do something about it" already, by extending this little thread, you've allowed me to publish my "paranoid" ideas quite lucidly. Specifically, the threat which biofuel poses to the petroleum industry; be it "greasel", "hempoil", or whatever else works.
The entire time you've only responded with namecalling: "stoner", lunatic", "whackjob".
Allow me to encapsulate this entire discussion:
Me: "Biofuel is an economic and ecologically sound alternative to energy sources derived from petroleum. Therefore big oil is scared of it."
You: "Your a stoner, lunatic, paranoid whackjob."
Me: "You're obviously either a naive or paid troll."
You: "Your a stoner, lunatic, whackjob with paranoid fantasies."
13,000 miles on hemp oil in an un-modified Mercedes diesel is no fantasy (www.HempCar.org). The fact that the our so called "liberal media" hasn't published anything about it is no fantasy either.
C'mon. Give us some hard facts to deal with about the pragmatic difficulties of biofuel alternatives.
Make me go back to the drawing board and do more research and reading. Gimme some book titles or journal articles. Help enlighten the debate.
What you (a troll) or I (a paranoid bookworm) are is irrelevant to the topic.
De-centralized growth and development of biofuel alternatives would solve a whole host of global problems which are assuredly going to worsen over the next several decades.
Here's where I bow out of this thread.
Congratulations. You get the last word in.
Make it a great closing argument. Try to stay on topic.
yours truly,
the paranoid freak
PS: We should do this again sometime. ;)
I'm a paranoid lunatic because I made noise over what appears to be collusion and conspiracy in the energy industry.
How silly of me. That would never happen in America!
Yeah, your probably right. Enron was just a fluke.
All the other corporate giants with their fingers in the pork barrel are really fine upstanding U.S. corporate citizens who believe in protecting the environment, avoiding armed conflict over foreign oil fields, and wouldn't mind at all if they lost centralized control over energy production and sales if hemp, corn, soybean oil, or french fries (uh... I meant Freedom Fries) became a viable source of energy for millions of consumers.
The HempCar probably isn't real (www.hempcar.org). They prolly faked it on a soundstage just like the lunar landings!
Keep up the great work 007. Blind allegiance to the party line probably will land you on a rewarding career path. The last thing any Iron Triangle employer wants in an employee who questions motives.
Keep your head down and your mouth shut and you'll go far.
I figure one of two things: 1. Either you actually believe that Corporate America and the government does not spend money on manipulating public opinion,
2. or you'd have me and everyone else believe that.
You're either unbelievably naive, have a vested interest in spreading FUD about alternative energy and anyone who proffers such notions, or, like I already said and believe, you are just another slashdot troll.
And if you really don't believe there are government funded trolls, then I have some land in Florida I'd like to sell to you.
Cheers!
thank you for taking some time out between bong hits to enlighten us all about your paranoid fantasies.
*un-snip*
First, a couple of facts; I don't do bong hits. I read books. You know, those things on the shelf with pages between the covers? :)
And the more I read about history, the more paranoid I do become. In light of current events, I highly recommend Soldat by Siegfired Knappe and Ted Brusaw.
But I'm moving off topic (without drugs even
It's also a fact, (not a fantasy) that the DEA is still attempting to ban the sale and import of hemp products on the laughable premise that hemp THC levels classify it as an illicit substance.
This is a joke in the scientific community.
Because of the rapid, low maintenance growth rate of hemp, it is possilbe to derive much more useable, processed fuel from hemp (hemp oil or methanol) than from corn.
Hemp oil is what the Hemp Car burns (www.hempcar.org) since diesels are really just oil burners.
Comparisons to corn are frequently used because corn has a relatively fast growth rate.
In other words, hemp makes good economic and ecological sense as a petroleum alternative.
This is why hemp scares the hell outta the petroleum industry. That's not paranoia. That's someone with a lot of financial clout protecting their market share (Why the hell do you think we were invaded by Texas? Sorry. I could't resist a little conspiracy theory humor.)
But, apparently, some people are perfectly comfortable with the energy mafia pulling us by the short hairs at the gas pump, because where the hell else are you gonna fill your gas tank?
That is what biofuel is all about. NOT being owned.
But you don't have to believe us paranoid bookworms. This information is well documented.
I'd recommend starting at www.jackherer.com.
As for my paranoid fantasies ? Well, actually, my fantasies are not so paranoid, and they usually involve being abducted by space alien chicks with lots of piercings who are into liquid latex and want me to tattoo them :) Again, off topic, but I felt some clarification was necessary.
And remember kids; If your vote didn't count, they wouldn't bother rigging elections.
While I'm at it: Remember kids, some trolls really do work for the government; because, on the Internet, no one knows you're a dog.
Later, trollbreath.
Apparently the confusion between hemp and marijuana still persists in some circles. I'm assuming that you actually believe hemp and marijuana are interchangeable terms. They are not.
That myth was born of the "reefer madness" campaign in the late nineteen thirties because rich industrialists saw hemp as a threat to petroleum, timber, and chemical industry profits. The Dupont brothers figured strongly is that misinformation campaign.
Not all of us who believe that hemp is a wonder crop are unproductive stoners who spend all day on the couch pining for marijuana legalization.
Although, if you'd like to debate the misinformation surrounding that drug, I'd love to take you on.
Pharamcology and public policy never even shook hands in this country (and I'm quoting someone else, here).
Oh... and by the way; I've never tried smoking corn. I'm afraid of getting the popcorn kernals lodged up my nostrils. ;)
Ahem... may I please direct your attention to http://www.hempcar.org. Ibentold that you can get more biofuel from corn than from hemp... HOWEVER, hemp grows much faster than corn. Therefore... Makes you wonder what the drug war is really about. Pervert the dominant paradigm.