something to the effect of "Do you realize we're sitting on a thing with two million moving parts, ten thousand pounds of explosives and one nuclear warhead?"
You forgot a part. "All built by the lowest bidder"
Yesterday I went to the local copy shop with a friend of mine's textbook because I only needed 5 pages of it for a class. I copied it, and I feel no shame, and I doubt the authors would give a crap if I had asked them "Hey, do you mind if I copy 5 pages from your book?" In fact, they probably wouldn't even have responded to my request.
There is a big difference in asking someone if you can make a copy of a small part of their work than it is to not ask them and take all their work. 5 pages of a large textbook, (most of my college books average around 500-600 pages).83% (5/600) best case, is a very small percentage compared to the 4 minute song out of a 60 (6.67%) minute album (Metallica averages about that much), plus that more than one song is usually copied, which bumps that percentage up significantly. Did/do you ask every artist who's mp3 you download if you could have a copy their song? (Assuming you use napster/mp3's) I'm will almost guarantee that you and everyone else didn't, and if you did, you were told no. (Phish, the Dead and like minded bands excluded)
And it's all due to an outdated copyright and legal system.
I won't argue with this, but as it stands now Metallica is has the legal upperhand.
Musicians are very much indentured servants. (indentured servitude was a predecessor of slavery in the early colonial days).
The difference between Musicians and slaves are that the musicians AGREED to the terms that were offered them (a choice as a musician, I will not take), while the slaves were just taken without asking.
That's ok, Metallica hasn't been into thrash either, for ten to fifteen years.
I won't argue with this, but get over it. If you don't like where they went/are going, you have the freedom to quit listening. I don't mind the change, therefore I keep listening. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it suck either.
Yes, Metallica tried to follow the symphonic metal trend. *snip* Metallica probably realized that this stuff was beginning to sell well, so they tried to jump onto the bandwagon.
They released an album of their old songs (+2 new ones) with a symphony in tow. IIRC the album liner says that it was the conductor's idea to do this with Metallica, and they agreed. I don't think they did it for the money, as most people seem to think, but did it for the challenge of putting their style of music with something on the other end of the musical spectrum and it isn't the first time they've done it,eg Nothing Else Matters. I thought it was well done, but Opinions....Assholes....you know the rest.
I've got my Sanitarium Tour tickets. Ready to go have a good time! -- Bucket
Driving a car drunk requires two things. A Drunk, and a car. Getting mp3's requires two things, a person and a computer w/network. (or a cd ripper/mp3 compressor, but were talking napster/gnutella/ftp/http/irc here). The car and computer w/network are tools. They have no choice in the matter of what they are used for whether it be legal or illegal.
This is where the defense of Napster/Gnutella are coming from. You wouldn't try to eliminate Ford because someone used an Explorer to intentionally run over a pedistrian. You wouldn't get rid of GM because people drive thier cars drunk. Napster/Gnutella shouldn't be destroyed because it was used to rip off a britney spears album. Cars/Napster/Gnutella all have legitimate uses, but it's people who use them for illegal uses, not the tool itself.
nah, Saving Private Ryan was too "Braveheart" derivitive for my tastes.
I'd agree but only on the grounds that both movies where quite gruesome. What other parts make you think SPR is Braveheart derivitive? The stories are based on real events with storylines added AFAIK. -- Bucket
That strikes me as kind of dumb, undermining the legitimizing effect of Wrapster, or maybe he really does intend it as a new-and-improved "piracy" tool, but even his saying it does not make it true or change the fact that the "it's a legitimate file-sharing tool" defense has gained some credibility.
I agree with this statement, but if Octavian wanted this to be viewed as a legitimate file-sharing tool, he wouldn't have put in the suggestion to trade programs such as W2K. The fact that he suggests this will cause the big corps. to view this as a piracy tool and they will treat it like the do all other tools of the sort.
As soon as the tobacco industry makes all of it's products non-addicting I'll be right there with you saying it's a choice and they aren't at fault if you die, until then, they are absolutely responsible.
Again I say it is not the tobacco company's fault. People die from drinking alcohol but nobody wants to hold the brewery responsible for those deaths. The tobacco industry knows their product is addicting and are forced by law to tell consumers that. The consumers know it. It doesn't stop them from smoking though. People can quit. They just have to have the will to. That or the ability to say no in the first place.
Yes, the tobacco companies should be paying but I don't think Nintendo should be paying for this for one reason:
Isn't playing Nintendo/smoking something you choose to do? Everyone knows the risks of smoking but they chose to start smoking. It is not Nintendo's fault that people play their game until they have blisters or the tobacco companies fault that people smoke until they die.
I was just picking a rounded off number. Besides, if you could get an Athlon or PIII 600 today for $100, how many of us here at/. would be lining up for that one?
Im not sure on this, but I think predatory pricing is described as when you sell something at cost (less than its real value) to force someone out of business. Selling for more than the real value is not that way because you are only asking for a little more than what you paid in labor and materials to make it in the first place.
Not exactly true, at least the way I think you're putting it. A monopoly that earns it's monopoly status by fair practices is not illegal. In a hypothetical situation, say you built a processor that runs faster than any processor now and than any processor made in the next ten years but only cost you 100 dollars/processor to make. You decide to sell it at 110 dollars/processor. You don't force boardmakers into signing unfair agreements or partake in other illegal practices. You soon take over the entire processor market and other processor makers go out of business. You didn't do anything wrong, you were just beating the competition with a better product (nothing wrong with that). Once you get to that status, you are usually observed (by the govt, competition, etc. etc.) but if you are doing nothing illegal, they technically can't do anything to ya. Now if Intel starts doing things to keep boardmakers from using AMD chips, then I say go ahead and go after them, but until them, wait and see.
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I wouldnt go that far. Although I started on an Old ATARI PC that only ran basic, Learned in order (schools choice, not mine) basic, pascal, VB, C++, ASM, then C. I currently work in a Unix/linux/Pc environment and I've learned to work my way around a command line pretty well. It just depends on the motivation of the person. If they want to learn how to use a command line after using windows, the only thing stopping them is themselves.
Perhaps she doesnt want all the attention that comes with being married to Linus. Like how most celebrities try to keep their kids away from the cameras if they can avoid it...
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something to the effect of "Do you realize we're sitting on a thing with two million moving parts, ten thousand pounds of explosives and one nuclear warhead?"
You forgot a part. "All built by the lowest bidder"
-- Bucket
get everybuddy. Then you can do both from the same program.
www.everybuddy.com
It also does yahoo and MSN.
-- Bucket
Have access to a solaris box? Try "more /bin/clear" Shocked the hell out of me the first time I saw it.
-- Bucket
Yesterday I went to the local copy shop with a friend of mine's textbook because I only needed 5 pages of it for a class. I copied it, and I feel no shame, and I doubt the authors would give a crap if I had asked them "Hey, do you mind if I copy 5 pages from your book?" In fact, they probably wouldn't even have responded to my request.
.83% (5/600) best case, is a very small percentage compared to the 4 minute song out of a 60 (6.67%) minute album (Metallica averages about that much), plus that more than one song is usually copied, which bumps that percentage up significantly. Did/do you ask every artist who's mp3 you download if you could have a copy their song? (Assuming you use napster/mp3's) I'm will almost guarantee that you and everyone else didn't, and if you did, you were told no. (Phish, the Dead and like minded bands excluded)
There is a big difference in asking someone if you can make a copy of a small part of their work than it is to not ask them and take all their work. 5 pages of a large textbook, (most of my college books average around 500-600 pages)
And it's all due to an outdated copyright and legal system.
I won't argue with this, but as it stands now Metallica is has the legal upperhand.
-- Bucket
Musicians are very much indentured servants. (indentured servitude was a predecessor of slavery in the early colonial days).
The difference between Musicians and slaves are that the musicians AGREED to the terms that were offered them (a choice as a musician, I will not take), while the slaves were just taken without asking.
-- Bucket
That's ok, Metallica hasn't been into thrash either, for ten to fifteen years.
I won't argue with this, but get over it. If you don't like where they went/are going, you have the freedom to quit listening. I don't mind the change, therefore I keep listening. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it suck either.
Yes, Metallica tried to follow the symphonic metal trend. *snip* Metallica probably realized that this stuff was beginning to sell well, so they tried to jump onto the bandwagon.
They released an album of their old songs (+2 new ones) with a symphony in tow. IIRC the album liner says that it was the conductor's idea to do this with Metallica, and they agreed. I don't think they did it for the money, as most people seem to think, but did it for the challenge of putting their style of music with something on the other end of the musical spectrum and it isn't the first time they've done it,eg Nothing Else Matters. I thought it was well done, but Opinions....Assholes....you know the rest.
I've got my Sanitarium Tour tickets. Ready to go have a good time!
-- Bucket
Driving a car drunk requires two things. A Drunk, and a car. Getting mp3's requires two things, a person and a computer w/network. (or a cd ripper/mp3 compressor, but were talking napster/gnutella/ftp/http/irc here). The car and computer w/network are tools. They have no choice in the matter of what they are used for whether it be legal or illegal.
This is where the defense of Napster/Gnutella are coming from. You wouldn't try to eliminate Ford because someone used an Explorer to intentionally run over a pedistrian. You wouldn't get rid of GM because people drive thier cars drunk. Napster/Gnutella shouldn't be destroyed because it was used to rip off a britney spears album. Cars/Napster/Gnutella all have legitimate uses, but it's people who use them for illegal uses, not the tool itself.
-- Bucket
nah, Saving Private Ryan was too "Braveheart" derivitive for my tastes.
I'd agree but only on the grounds that both movies where quite gruesome. What other parts make you think SPR is Braveheart derivitive? The stories are based on real events with storylines added AFAIK.
-- Bucket
That strikes me as kind of dumb, undermining the legitimizing effect of Wrapster, or maybe he really does intend it as a new-and-improved "piracy" tool, but even his saying it does not make it true or change the fact that the "it's a legitimate file-sharing tool" defense has gained some credibility.
I agree with this statement, but if Octavian wanted this to be viewed as a legitimate file-sharing tool, he wouldn't have put in the suggestion to trade programs such as W2K. The fact that he suggests this will cause the big corps. to view this as a piracy tool and they will treat it like the do all other tools of the sort.
-- Bucket
As soon as the tobacco industry makes all of it's products non-addicting I'll be right there with you saying it's a choice and they aren't at fault if you die, until then, they are absolutely responsible.
Again I say it is not the tobacco company's fault. People die from drinking alcohol but nobody wants to hold the brewery responsible for those deaths. The tobacco industry knows their product is addicting and are forced by law to tell consumers that. The consumers know it. It doesn't stop them from smoking though. People can quit. They just have to have the will to. That or the ability to say no in the first place.
Yes, the tobacco companies should be paying but I don't think Nintendo should be paying for this for one reason:
Isn't playing Nintendo/smoking something you choose to do? Everyone knows the risks of smoking but they chose to start smoking. It is not Nintendo's fault that people play their game until they have blisters or the tobacco companies fault that people smoke until they die.
Jus putted up another mirror here....
And I will add another one for every negative thing the mpaa does.....
You're gonna run out of places to put it before too long.
5 exclamation marks are a sure sign of someone who wears their underpants on their heard, aren't they?
And he has seven, I wonder what that means? I won't elaborate, I'll leave it up to your imaginations.
I was just picking a rounded off number. Besides, if you could get an Athlon or PIII 600 today for $100, how many of us here at /. would be lining up for that one?
Im not sure on this, but I think predatory pricing is described as when you sell something at cost (less than its real value) to force someone out of business. Selling for more than the real value is not that way because you are only asking for a little more than what you paid in labor and materials to make it in the first place.
"A monopoly is a monopoly is a monopoly. "
Not exactly true, at least the way I think you're putting it. A monopoly that earns it's monopoly status by fair practices is not illegal. In a hypothetical situation, say you built a processor that runs faster than any processor now and than any processor made in the next ten years but only cost you 100 dollars/processor to make. You decide to sell it at 110 dollars/processor. You don't force boardmakers into signing unfair agreements or partake in other illegal practices. You soon take over the entire processor market and other processor makers go out of business. You didn't do anything wrong, you were just beating the competition with a better product (nothing wrong with that). Once you get to that status, you are usually observed (by the govt, competition, etc. etc.) but if you are doing nothing illegal, they technically can't do anything to ya. Now if Intel starts doing things to keep boardmakers from using AMD chips, then I say go ahead and go after them, but until them, wait and see.
I wouldnt go that far. Although I started on an Old ATARI PC that only ran basic, Learned in order (schools choice, not mine) basic, pascal, VB, C++, ASM, then C. I currently work in a Unix/linux/Pc environment and I've learned to work my way around a command line pretty well. It just depends on the motivation of the person. If they want to learn how to use a command line after using windows, the only thing stopping them is themselves.
Perhaps she doesnt want all the attention that comes with being married to Linus. Like how most celebrities try to keep their kids away from the cameras if they can avoid it...