It's interesting. I'm taking a public policy class right now at the (gasp!) public university of California at Berkeley. (Cal Day is this Saturday, April 15 -- lots of events! Come on down!). And one of the interesting things about education is that, right now, it's a public good. It's non-excludable. You can't tell a kid that, for space reason, he can't enter Springfield Elementary or whatever. Any kid who grows up to be 6 or whatever, come on in.
And the thing is, education has positive externalities. If we only have private schools, economics tells us that we'll have amount x produced, but that there are benefits to society when people produce/consume the good. If we only have private schools, they'll produce less than would be socially optimal.
As a past-and-future journalist, I can say this: Sometimes you just get bored with quote after quote. Sometimes you paraphrase because what the source said was really garbled. Sometimes a journalist (not me) really MIGHT be misrepresenting a source.
I would appreciate the actual transcript of the interview, maybe as an appendix or some such. More trustworthy.
My friend who used to live in the backwoods of Northen California used an ISP that was, he said, literally owned by a mom and a pop. They evidently didn't provide the best or fastest service.
Anyway, there must be someone out there whose mom and pop ran an ISP, for without a child, there could be neither mom nor pop. Q.E.D.
THANK YOU! I FEAR business students sometimes for their Randian "captialism is good...increase shareholder value...wealth is morality" perspective. You're one of the few business students who has his / her head on straight. Please don't go narrowmindedly 'economic' on me!
Project Censored gets scarier and scarier every year. As the big businesses conglomerate into empires that, incidentally, own the mass media, some very disturbing stuff never gets reported on national TV or in big or medium newspapers.
Every year this project lists "the news that didn't make the news" -- stuff Noam Chomsky would shake his head at and say, "See, I told you so."
The 1999 top-ten list (I think they do 50 overall, with a special section in the yearly book for "junk food/fluff news" that got overreported):
Multinational Corporations Profit from International Brutality
2 Pharmaceutical Companies Put Profits Before Need
3 Financially Bloated American Cancer Society Fails to Prevent Cancer
4 American Sweatshops Sew U.S. Military Uniforms
5 Turkey Destroys Kurdish Villages with U.S. Weapons
6 NATO Defends Private Economic Interests in the Balkans
7 U.S. Media Reduces Foreign Coverage
8 Planned Weapons in Space Violate International Treaty
9 Louisiana Promotes Toxic Racism
10 The U.S. and NATO Deliberately Started the War with Yugoslavia
I actually had dinner with the guy who's head of this, Peter Philips. He's angry in a constructive way, and reading Project Censored makes me feel like I should be, too.
I think you misunderstood me. You and I both know that moviemakers tend, in bringing a book to the screen, to destroy the really interesting aspects. Even _Jurassic Park_ was a better book than a movie, even though I liked the movie too.
Perhaps you've had the experience of reading a good book, liking it a lot, going to a movie based on the book, and disliking the movie. I figure that the reverse of this is a probable experience for this story (_High Fidelity_), so I'm not going to rush out and read the book by Hornsby. I like reading in general. Don't get your knickers in a twist.
Can anybody corroborate? Does anybody really know how to spell corroborate? I think I'm going to have a corroborated beverage now.
I believe it's "corroborate," but I could be wrong. Would anyone care to corroborate me?
And you'll have to get someone else to corroborate that beverage. Does it come corroborated? Pre-corroborated? Factory corroborated? Wow, the things we mass produce these days.
Did you, by any chance, get that chant from Dave Barry and Stephen King and their authors' band? I remember the book was called "Mid-Life Confidential" and the band was the Rock-Bottom Remainders...
They did "Teen Angel" where instead of "class ring" the dead teen was clutching a "vial of crack" (or at least King sang it that way), and the record company told them to stop, so every time they sang the song the band told the story and they led the audience in a call-and-response where every time they said "Acuff-Rose," I think (name of record co.), the audience shouted:
See another post in this discussion (not by me) for more info on the movie "U-571" or whatever the movie is that dramatizes this. Trailer looks interesting, maybe.
Too bad the timeline isn't contemporary w/"Titanic"...
In the past, the cultures of indigenous peoples in Africa, Asia, Australia, South and North America -- maybe Europe, I don't know -- have been destroyed because of the actions of more technologically advanced groups. Some of the horror comes when, say, the rich white man keeps little tchotchkes from his trips that are actually the sacred relics of the culture that used to exist, before they became just like us. (And sometimes we forced them to assimilate, and sometimes economic/social/political forces made them, and maybe sometimes it was no one's fault.) I imagine that's what the person meant by "cultural theft."
But it's also sad, to me, when a culture is gone. Just disappears, killed or murdered or died. Like the passenger pigeon, extinct. There goes a bit of wisdom, as somebody wrote in "Ishmael," that we'll never have again. A system of knowing, a chunk of wisdom about how to live in this world. We can never get that particular wisdom back.
I'm Indian-American, and I KNOW that there is value in American culture and that there is value in Indian culture. I don't think Mohandas Gandhi was literal when he responded to the newspaperman -- "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi: "I think it would be a good idea." No, both have value -- more or less, I don't want to judge. But the Westerners have, as my ex-PoliSci TA says of the British, "that nasty little conquering habit." There are drives in certain cultures that make it difficult for them to coexist peacefully with other cultures. Might that destructiveness lower that culture's value? Maybe.
Anyway, I think you misread the person's comment on the Western habit of destroying and replacing other cultures. Visit Bangalore, visit Paris, visit any city that has a proud history of its own. More people speak English, more people have "Western values" and dress and watch and listen and all that -- looking to the US. Or, at least, a global monoculture will be / is more influenced by Protestant individualism than by Hinduism. Maybe that's not so optimal for wisdom and balance.
Accordin got this Slate review which doesn't recommend the film as much as I would, there are a whopping 59 songs heard in the movie, even though a number of them are only tiny clips. Too bad.
I see your point -- if a movie's even moderately good, it seems more rational* to stay and hope for a bad payoff (depends on how much you paid). If it's horrible (see: One Tough Cop, Beyond Rangoon), leaving seems rational, but so does staying and wisecracking w/friends.
I had a teacher who walked out on Pulp Fiction because he didn't want to see any more glamorization of violence. I never saw the flick, but from what I know, the end totally de-glamorized violence. Would my teacher have enjoyed the ending more, the movie more, if he'd stayed till the end? Maybe there are some things that some people just can't take -- violence, whining, casual sex -- and it's so disturbing and/or annoying to see these things that the negatives of staying outweigh the benefits of seeing a gret, meaningful and meaning-making ending.
*rational = economically rational. So I'm taking Econ 2. so sue me -- wait! Economists would HATE that! Transaction costs, gov't interference in the market -- ugh.
I would recommend that you visit the "High Fidelity" web site. Especially visit the "Top Five" portion. You can read funny Top Five lists, some in the movie and some not (SPOILER ALERT!). Also sprinkled throughout the sites are little Top Five videos with the cast from the flick. Kool.
I waited through the very end of the credits. "Soundtrack available on Hollywood Records," it said. And Hollywood Records DOES have the 'High Fidelity' soundtrack and more information is here.
BTW, at the HR site you can listen to clips from the songs, the list of which I duly post here:
1.13th FLOOR ELEVATORS "You're Gonna Miss Me"
2.THE KINKS "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy"
3.JOHN WESLEY HARDING "I'm Wrong About Everything" [FULL SONG]
4.VELVET UNDERGROUND "Oh Sweet Nuthin'"
5.LOVE "Always See Your Face"
6.BOB DYLAN "Most Of The Time"
7.SHEILA NICHOLLS "Fallen For You" [FULL SONG]
8.BETA BAND "Dry The Rain"
9.ELVIS COSTELLO "Ship Building"
10.SMOG "Cold Blooded Old Times"
11.JACK BLACK "Let's Get It On"
12.STEREOLAB "Lo Boob Oscillator"
13.ROYAL TRUX "Inside Game"
14.VELVET UNDERGROUND "Who Loves The Sun"
15.STEVIE WONDER "I Believe (When I Fall In Love)"
I think that's the entire soundtrack -- it felt like more, though, when I saw the credits. I believe these are in chronological order -- in terms of when they are played in the movie. And, in fact, if you click "buy the soundtrack," you get directed here -- not Amazon, but "Express". $12.98? Perhaps a bargain.
The Cusack character in the movie has the same problem. His emotional life is mediated by popular culture (in that you have to buy records before you can get unhealthily attached to them) to a harmful degree, and it's his getting past that that the book's (partly) about (hence the record *store* setting).
I'm sure there have been times in my life when it HELPED to have a song as an object-to-think-about (I just read Sherry Turkle's "The Second Self"), but I can see how it would be easy to slip overboard and into the morass of emotion that you THINK is your own. The commercial element has something to do with this -- so does the isolation and elitism of him and his fellow music lovers (definitely Barry, but also, if you look for it, Dick and Annaugh).
Side note -- isn't it odd how geeks often believe in the inflexible Law of Mainstreaming and Goodness; the quality of a band/OS/ISP/writer/brand of anything varies inversely to its/her/his popularity. Championship Vinyl doesn't carry that mainstream stuff -- ugh. Celine Dion? Whitney Houston? No, and f--- you for asking. To prove that you are great, you must be misunderstood -- only geniuses like yourself must understand and love your work. The free market philosophy in inverse -- reaction to commercialization/ rationalization of failure, or something more?
Yeah, in the beginning, basically the first half, Rob (main character) is self-pitying and whines a bit. But did you get to the part where he does the Top Five things he misses about his ex? After that, it's a lot more like he's searching for... trying to do better. He grows away from his self-involved arrogance. Before that, I was simultaneously rooting for him and despising him and laughing at him -- afterwards, there was little or no disgust. You had to wait a while for the character development, but it was WELL worth it -- that was the most satisfying movie I've been to in a year.
And the music was pretty cool, even though I'm no music freak.
I didn't read the book and don't intend to. It might ruin my experience of the film. Seriously. Perhaps this is one of the few times when the movie is better than the basis-book!
I found the film extremely suspenseful, funny, and chock-full of subtlety and strong plot and character development. I'm recommending it to everyone I know.
I just bet that the title of this happened when someone spilled mustard or something on the letters "ot" in "Godot" at the end and came up with the idea for the series.
I also enjoy "WFG" -- but my favorite British comedy is -- no, not "Are You Being Served," not the one about that snotty Hyacinth and her lower-class sisters Rose and Daisy -- no, it's "Yes, Minister," which metamorphed into "Yes, Prime Minister." Great stuff! These things used to come on late Saturday nights, just before "The Red Green Show" (also funny, although the people at my high school never understood). Channel surfing was great -- SNL, Mad TV, and those wacky Brits.
AltaVista, NetZero, BlueLight, FreeINet, and other free ISPs, if you fiddle with them, probably won't interfere with your dad when he tries to connect to AOL. A few ads aren't a high price to pay for me (but then, I'm a poverty-stricken college student).
You say, it's not a problem, because it's an ease-of-use thing and we should let people have easier-to-use systems. Yes, user friendliness is a good goal.
But AOL is the point-of-entry for many people into the net -- come on, even I started out as a brain-dead AOLer for a month or so. AOL is the Ellis Island, the NYC of (often computing and) the Internet. As such, people will buy the keyboard, get lock-in syndrome, and THE ASSIMILATION WILL STOP, which is the importantly sad thing. AOLers are meant to move on, to grow from AOL into mature ISP users. The AOL keyboard would keep them in the womb.
And children don't know any better than to buy what the womb tells them to.
Okay, you say, it's not a problem to us, we're not going to buy intentionally malformed keyboards. We have many other choices. The problem is that AOL will add value-added content for users of these keyboards, and their Time/AOL/corporate domination will exclude is from it.
But AOL is the point-of-entry for many people into the net -- come on, even I started out as a brain-dead AOLer for a month or so. AOL is the Ellis Island, the NYC of (often computing and) the Internet. As such, people will buy the keyboard, get lock-in syndrome, and THE ASSIMILATION WILL STOP, which is the importantly sad thing. AOLers are meant to move on, to grow from AOL into mature ISP users. The AOL keyboard would keep them in the womb.
And children don't know any better than to buy what the womb tells them to.
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And the thing is, education has positive externalities. If we only have private schools, economics tells us that we'll have amount x produced, but that there are benefits to society when people produce/consume the good. If we only have private schools, they'll produce less than would be socially optimal.
Solution: subsidies?
I would appreciate the actual transcript of the interview, maybe as an appendix or some such. More trustworthy.
Anyway, there must be someone out there whose mom and pop ran an ISP, for without a child, there could be neither mom nor pop. Q.E.D.
Every year this project lists "the news that didn't make the news" -- stuff Noam Chomsky would shake his head at and say, "See, I told you so."
The 1999 top-ten list (I think they do 50 overall, with a special section in the yearly book for "junk food/fluff news" that got overreported):
Multinational Corporations Profit from International Brutality
2 Pharmaceutical Companies Put Profits Before Need
3 Financially Bloated American Cancer Society Fails to Prevent Cancer
4 American Sweatshops Sew U.S. Military Uniforms
5 Turkey Destroys Kurdish Villages with U.S. Weapons
6 NATO Defends Private Economic Interests in the Balkans
7 U.S. Media Reduces Foreign Coverage
8 Planned Weapons in Space Violate International Treaty
9 Louisiana Promotes Toxic Racism
10 The U.S. and NATO Deliberately Started the War with Yugoslavia
I actually had dinner with the guy who's head of this, Peter Philips. He's angry in a constructive way, and reading Project Censored makes me feel like I should be, too.
Perhaps you've had the experience of reading a good book, liking it a lot, going to a movie based on the book, and disliking the movie. I figure that the reverse of this is a probable experience for this story (_High Fidelity_), so I'm not going to rush out and read the book by Hornsby. I like reading in general. Don't get your knickers in a twist.
a stream of obscenities written in a 2,800-year-old Mesopotamian dialect!"
Asherah has possessed your bike, your CPU, your herd of cats.
I believe it's "corroborate," but I could be wrong. Would anyone care to corroborate me?
And you'll have to get someone else to corroborate that beverage. Does it come corroborated? Pre-corroborated? Factory corroborated? Wow, the things we mass produce these days.
They did "Teen Angel" where instead of "class ring" the dead teen was clutching a "vial of crack" (or at least King sang it that way), and the record company told them to stop, so every time they sang the song the band told the story and they led the audience in a call-and-response where every time they said "Acuff-Rose," I think (name of record co.), the audience shouted:
"NO SENSE a YOO-mah!"
Too bad the timeline isn't contemporary w/"Titanic"...
But it's also sad, to me, when a culture is gone. Just disappears, killed or murdered or died. Like the passenger pigeon, extinct. There goes a bit of wisdom, as somebody wrote in "Ishmael," that we'll never have again. A system of knowing, a chunk of wisdom about how to live in this world. We can never get that particular wisdom back.
I'm Indian-American, and I KNOW that there is value in American culture and that there is value in Indian culture. I don't think Mohandas Gandhi was literal when he responded to the newspaperman --
"What do you think of Western civilization?"
Gandhi: "I think it would be a good idea."
No, both have value -- more or less, I don't want to judge. But the Westerners have, as my ex-PoliSci TA says of the British, "that nasty little conquering habit." There are drives in certain cultures that make it difficult for them to coexist peacefully with other cultures. Might that destructiveness lower that culture's value? Maybe.
Anyway, I think you misread the person's comment on the Western habit of destroying and replacing other cultures. Visit Bangalore, visit Paris, visit any city that has a proud history of its own. More people speak English, more people have "Western values" and dress and watch and listen and all that -- looking to the US. Or, at least, a global monoculture will be / is more influenced by Protestant individualism than by Hinduism. Maybe that's not so optimal for wisdom and balance.
That's all.
http://slashdot.org/index.pl?section=bsd - there's room for everyone here.
I had a teacher who walked out on Pulp Fiction because he didn't want to see any more glamorization of violence. I never saw the flick, but from what I know, the end totally de-glamorized violence. Would my teacher have enjoyed the ending more, the movie more, if he'd stayed till the end? Maybe there are some things that some people just can't take -- violence, whining, casual sex -- and it's so disturbing and/or annoying to see these things that the negatives of staying outweigh the benefits of seeing a gret, meaningful and meaning-making ending.
*rational = economically rational. So I'm taking Econ 2. so sue me -- wait! Economists would HATE that! Transaction costs, gov't interference in the market -- ugh.
I would recommend that you visit the "High Fidelity" web site. Especially visit the "Top Five" portion. You can read funny Top Five lists, some in the movie and some not (SPOILER ALERT!). Also sprinkled throughout the sites are little Top Five videos with the cast from the flick. Kool.
BTW, at the HR site you can listen to clips from the songs, the list of which I duly post here:
1.13th FLOOR ELEVATORS "You're Gonna Miss Me"
2.THE KINKS "Everybody's Gonna Be Happy"
3.JOHN WESLEY HARDING "I'm Wrong About Everything" [FULL SONG]
4.VELVET UNDERGROUND "Oh Sweet Nuthin'"
5.LOVE "Always See Your Face"
6.BOB DYLAN "Most Of The Time"
7.SHEILA NICHOLLS "Fallen For You" [FULL SONG]
8.BETA BAND "Dry The Rain"
9.ELVIS COSTELLO "Ship Building"
10.SMOG "Cold Blooded Old Times"
11.JACK BLACK "Let's Get It On"
12.STEREOLAB "Lo Boob Oscillator"
13.ROYAL TRUX "Inside Game"
14.VELVET UNDERGROUND "Who Loves The Sun"
15.STEVIE WONDER "I Believe (When I Fall In Love)"
I think that's the entire soundtrack -- it felt like more, though, when I saw the credits. I believe these are in chronological order -- in terms of when they are played in the movie. And, in fact, if you click "buy the soundtrack," you get directed here -- not Amazon, but "Express". $12.98? Perhaps a bargain.
The Cusack character in the movie has the same problem. His emotional life is mediated by popular culture (in that you have to buy records before you can get unhealthily attached to them) to a harmful degree, and it's his getting past that that the book's (partly) about (hence the record *store* setting).
I'm sure there have been times in my life when it HELPED to have a song as an object-to-think-about (I just read Sherry Turkle's "The Second Self"), but I can see how it would be easy to slip overboard and into the morass of emotion that you THINK is your own. The commercial element has something to do with this -- so does the isolation and elitism of him and his fellow music lovers (definitely Barry, but also, if you look for it, Dick and Annaugh).
Side note -- isn't it odd how geeks often believe in the inflexible Law of Mainstreaming and Goodness; the quality of a band/OS/ISP/writer/brand of anything varies inversely to its/her/his popularity. Championship Vinyl doesn't carry that mainstream stuff -- ugh. Celine Dion? Whitney Houston? No, and f--- you for asking. To prove that you are great, you must be misunderstood -- only geniuses like yourself must understand and love your work. The free market philosophy in inverse -- reaction to commercialization/ rationalization of failure, or something more?
And the music was pretty cool, even though I'm no music freak.
I found the film extremely suspenseful, funny, and chock-full of subtlety and strong plot and character development. I'm recommending it to everyone I know.
as I've taken to saying, duh.com.
I also enjoy "WFG" -- but my favorite British comedy is -- no, not "Are You Being Served," not the one about that snotty Hyacinth and her lower-class sisters Rose and Daisy -- no, it's "Yes, Minister," which metamorphed into "Yes, Prime Minister." Great stuff! These things used to come on late Saturday nights, just before "The Red Green Show" (also funny, although the people at my high school never understood). Channel surfing was great -- SNL, Mad TV, and those wacky Brits.
And now I have no TV. Such is life.
Accourding to macosrumors, there has always been an intel version compatiable os OS X foating around apple. Most of MacOS X has is already platform independent. Even Apples build tool Project Builder have a check box for building for intel software. IMHO, I think Apple is just keeps there options open.
You say, it's not a problem, because it's an ease-of-use thing and we should let people have easier-to-use systems. Yes, user friendliness is a good goal.
But AOL is the point-of-entry for many people into the net -- come on, even I started out as a brain-dead AOLer for a month or so. AOL is the Ellis Island, the NYC of (often computing and) the Internet. As such, people will buy the keyboard, get lock-in syndrome, and THE ASSIMILATION WILL STOP, which is the importantly sad thing. AOLers are meant to move on, to grow from AOL into mature ISP users. The AOL keyboard would keep them in the womb.
And children don't know any better than to buy what the womb tells them to.
But AOL is the point-of-entry for many people into the net -- come on, even I started out as a brain-dead AOLer for a month or so. AOL is the Ellis Island, the NYC of (often computing and) the Internet. As such, people will buy the keyboard, get lock-in syndrome, and THE ASSIMILATION WILL STOP, which is the importantly sad thing. AOLers are meant to move on, to grow from AOL into mature ISP users. The AOL keyboard would keep them in the womb.
And children don't know any better than to buy what the womb tells them to.