... and i know how my lan is wired. what does this have to do with security? never once did he mention anything about on-wire data, his penetration tests apparently involve nodes only.
my money is on him not being able to penetrate a wet paper bag.
allright, it was late when i typed. so it is right click, big deal.
yes, i am aware bash is available - i had to use it to clear the trash, files in which somehow got chowned away from me. i attribute it to the buggyness associated with switching users.
i never said a terminal wasnt available, i said a terminal is the only way i would ever be productive in osx. that and vi is all i need really, but somehow it seems strange that after years of trying to replace the cmd line with a gui the best apple could do for productivity was to reintroduce it.
i do not have an osx box, so i can not verify your suggestions about the menubar and all. however, something is clearly wrong if i didnt see it, isnt it?
clearly, i am being flamed by a bunch of apple afficionados. after all, you guys are the only ones that read apple-related threads =]
however, i do recall an article posted on the front page that dealt with the suitability of linux for the desktop (the guy tried to get video playback to work on linux), which referenced an article describing the woes that same guy experienced with osx. if i could find the link, i would.
one little detail i left out: one day that osx box wouldnt boot. period. reinstalling didnt help, or rather could not be completed.
i am glad you guys are loving osx. i, however, am not touching it with a ten foot pole - you can have it all to yourselves.
i am going to go ahead and proclaim publically that the emperor is naked.
os x is *not* user-friendly! i am a professional software engineer, sys/network admin ever since i started my own hosting business and a long time linux/*nix user. a mac was the first desktop pc i ever saw and used and i remember loving it back then.
a few months ago, i was confronted with using an osx box. i could *not* for the love of god figure it out. i was not under the influence, there were no electromagnetic storms and the flux capacitor was not fluctuating. it was simply not intuitive.
i never knew what program was open - before closing an application i had to go into different menus to see if i can determine which app was active by the options that were available in there. i couldnt find anything, sherlock was apparently high on cocaine and produced a lot if irrelevant results (when it did).
my (then) boss, staring over my shoulder, was beginning to doubt my sanity. that was easily fixed when i told him to try it himself - he proceeded to swear even more heavily than he usually did for a half hour until he gave up.
what does this prove? i first thought that the problems i was encountering came from overeducation - i admit i have been spoiled by bash and context menus on left click. my then boss, however, was not a power user by any means and would in fact fit the bill of a typical mac user.
what the heck went wrong there? i have no idea. what i do know is that i am never touching that thing again unless it has the full suite of gnu utilities on it and presents me with a terminal window that clearly states 'console' in the titlebar.
last time i checked, others were involved in obsd development besides theo. same goes for linus/linux. why is this important?
when theo acts in the capacity of the project lead, he represents the *whole* body of the project's participants. they have indeed granted him an implicit 'license', if you will, to speak on their behalf regarding certain topics, such as technical issues etc. however, i highly doubt they have given him a proxy to broadcast his private views as if they were representative of other developers' views.
although not an obsd developer, i always hated it when people attempted to speak for me without my consent, no matter whether i actually agreed with what was being said. the comments may not have had any effect on the grant, but the fact of their existence should be highly offensive to all those who contribute their time and effort to the project.
the man who defines megalomania strikes again.
paul
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... and i know how my lan is wired. what does this have to do with security? never once did he mention anything about on-wire data, his penetration tests apparently involve nodes only.
my money is on him not being able to penetrate a wet paper bag.
paul
you, my friend, definitely smell like someone who overpaid for inferior hardware =]
very probable. guess why? after a few hours of poking around, i decided not to bother.
allright, it was late when i typed. so it is right click, big deal.
yes, i am aware bash is available - i had to use it to clear the trash, files in which somehow got chowned away from me. i attribute it to the buggyness associated with switching users.
i never said a terminal wasnt available, i said a terminal is the only way i would ever be productive in osx. that and vi is all i need really, but somehow it seems strange that after years of trying to replace the cmd line with a gui the best apple could do for productivity was to reintroduce it.
i do not have an osx box, so i can not verify your suggestions about the menubar and all. however, something is clearly wrong if i didnt see it, isnt it?
clearly, i am being flamed by a bunch of apple afficionados. after all, you guys are the only ones that read apple-related threads =]
however, i do recall an article posted on the front page that dealt with the suitability of linux for the desktop (the guy tried to get video playback to work on linux), which referenced an article describing the woes that same guy experienced with osx. if i could find the link, i would.
one little detail i left out: one day that osx box wouldnt boot. period. reinstalling didnt help, or rather could not be completed.
i am glad you guys are loving osx. i, however, am not touching it with a ten foot pole - you can have it all to yourselves.
paul
i am going to go ahead and proclaim publically that the emperor is naked.
os x is *not* user-friendly! i am a professional software engineer, sys/network admin ever since i started my own hosting business and a long time linux/*nix user. a mac was the first desktop pc i ever saw and used and i remember loving it back then.
a few months ago, i was confronted with using an osx box. i could *not* for the love of god figure it out. i was not under the influence, there were no electromagnetic storms and the flux capacitor was not fluctuating. it was simply not intuitive.
i never knew what program was open - before closing an application i had to go into different menus to see if i can determine which app was active by the options that were available in there. i couldnt find anything, sherlock was apparently high on cocaine and produced a lot if irrelevant results (when it did).
my (then) boss, staring over my shoulder, was beginning to doubt my sanity. that was easily fixed when i told him to try it himself - he proceeded to swear even more heavily than he usually did for a half hour until he gave up.
what does this prove? i first thought that the problems i was encountering came from overeducation - i admit i have been spoiled by bash and context menus on left click. my then boss, however, was not a power user by any means and would in fact fit the bill of a typical mac user.
what the heck went wrong there? i have no idea. what i do know is that i am never touching that thing again unless it has the full suite of gnu utilities on it and presents me with a terminal window that clearly states 'console' in the titlebar.
paul
last time i checked, others were involved in obsd development besides theo. same goes for linus/linux. why is this important? when theo acts in the capacity of the project lead, he represents the *whole* body of the project's participants. they have indeed granted him an implicit 'license', if you will, to speak on their behalf regarding certain topics, such as technical issues etc. however, i highly doubt they have given him a proxy to broadcast his private views as if they were representative of other developers' views. although not an obsd developer, i always hated it when people attempted to speak for me without my consent, no matter whether i actually agreed with what was being said. the comments may not have had any effect on the grant, but the fact of their existence should be highly offensive to all those who contribute their time and effort to the project. the man who defines megalomania strikes again. paul