Yeah, it does. Having worked with "those on the bottom" in medical social assistance for a dozen years those "on the bottom" are there by and large by choice; largely by choosing substance abuse over anything else, and young women consciously choosing to have children unwed and choosing to have the state be the breadwinner and father. The numbers are bolstered by a huge margin by migrant farm workers. These people are on the bottom rung largely by choice, by refusing to use public assistance to get an education that is a REQUIREMENT for working in today's market. The assistance they get goes into their veins. If you're trying to paint the system as some kind of systematic oppression by those on the top I frankly don't see it. Sure, you can go into some complicated social calculation that shows some kind of oppression cause by the free market and so on, but for those of us in the trenches I simply see a group of people who seem to be quite content (not happy, but content) to live in shit and rob each other and tax payers for the money they need to further this chosen life style. A free market at least give you choice. If you want to choose that, you're free to do so. What your talking about, and painting a picture of; is some kind of systematic program of enslavement and oppression simply doesn't exist, at least not to the levels you're imagining. Oppression and enslavement exist, no doubt about it. But as some kind of established, ongoing program in all free market economies? Come on. Give me a break.
Well, you don't spend millions, typically. You just need a few certs for your domain, depending on the number of servers that's a few grand? And I don't know how that works with visualization in the mix.
The cert business (and it is a business, don't let them kid you), is all about trust. They're selling trust. The only reason they're in business is to sell you (if you're running a business web site) is to sell you a piece of code that removes the "untrusted" nag a browser presents the user when they access your secured web site, because they come with a collection of pre-installed certs from recognized CAs. If your willing to put a note on your site telling your users that they need to install YOUR cert, and its a one time thing, then there's really no need to buy into these CAs.
But a lot of enterprises aren't willing to do this, they want the user (who are by and large unfamiliar and don't want to become familiar with this simple process) not to have to deal with it. So the CA business is really a house of cards. They're in business because they got in early and have endorsements from other large entities, the US gov. for one.
I sometimes wonder what the process is like to set up another CA and get the major browser makers to buy in. What would stop you and me from setting up a CA and getting our cert pre-installed on the browsers?
it just sucks at liberty, life and the pursuit of happiness).
Incorrect. It works brilliantly at all three of those aims, while communism appears to work at social slavery (your already forgetting the Berlin Wall & Tienanmen Square?). What it lacks is certainty, which I'll agree with. Of course the certainty that a planned economy brings is in my mind a rather lacking. While a market economy brings uncertainty every quarter, a planned economy brings only it every 50 years. I guess some people don't mind the wait.
Sure, I will if you'll pull your head out of a book and take a look at the real world, socialism doesn't seem to work so well. Sometimes, just because the rest of the world is doing it, doesn't mean its good.
I think what he meant to say is "I'd really hate to be an unskilled laborer/worker right now.", in which case he's right. the days of walking out of high school into your dad's old cannery job and doing it until you retire are long gone.
I did the same thing for a small media server I set up; bought a Via picoitx system and on a whim chose a 60G SSD to install the os on, and use a 2 TB usb drive to serve up the media. Works really well. The ssd is good on heat.
I am very cynical that governments can escape the running down of the economy.
And I am very cynical that we can escape our governments. Why, in your opinion, does a government need to escape (a bad, I assume you mean) economy? Especially when they are often the cause of a bad one? This apparent, and somewhat common, in my opinion, view that we exist to serve our respective governments rather than our governments existing to serve us is pervasive and distressing to me. I see it in liberal and leftist leaning users, for the most part, and I always have to ask "why"?
Perhaps you didn't mean it the way it sounds to me. I can only hope.
I would argue that Euclid's Elements was the book that started it all. Without it your (or at least my) first program wouldn't have been a simple little ditty to compute the area of a circle using RSTS/E Basic+.
There is simply a shortage of qualified engineers who are prepared to work 100+ hours a week for peanuts.
You're wrong. I'm paid well, and everyone I work with is paid well. And I don't work 100+ hours a week. You're knee-jerk reaction is worthless. I'm telling you, we can't hire people, they aren't coming in the door. And when they do, they aren't qualified. That's it. There's nothing else I see in my workplace that describes the situation any better.
Well, I think good old Chinese style FUD is much more effective than the America style anyway. It takes a certain panache to machine-gun down 2000 of your own citizens and then deny it ever happened (Tienanmen Square? remember that little tea-party? But this is the good stuff; (from the article in peopledaily.com.cn:):
Certain international observers cannot find an answer to this question: How did China make such remarkable progress in such a short time?
"The socialist system with Chinese characteristics, which fully embodies the distinctive features and strengths of socialism with Chinese characteristics, is a fundamental institutional guarantee of the development and progress of contemporary China," Hu Jintao uncovered the reasons for China's remarkable progress in his speech marking the Party's 90th birthday on July 1.
Of course manipulating your own currency and ensuring your workers make sub-standard wages with a little dose of ignoring certain building standards when making bridges (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6945301.stm) and acting like usurpers and counter insurgents are poisoning your international baby milk products for export (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1841535,00.html) does a lot to spread FUD. Those poor, misunderstood commie bastard Chinese.
GRADUATE LEVEL VOCATIONAL EDUCATION... I've said it before, I'll say it again... it worked in the past... some institutions have it, you can find a lot of that kind of thing in europe, why its not here... well I know why. Money. Or the lack thereof.
I can't buy Mr. Wadhwa's initial premise here; in simple terms that even I can understand he's saying the bulk of US engineers are allocated to non-engineering or trivial, applied engineering tasks. So he's saying qualified engineers are stuck doing work they weren't really trained for, I'm an electrical engineer, and here's what I see; job requisitions go unfulfilled for months at my work and others I speak to in the industry, and a lot of the people I see are recent grads, not appropriate for installed bases running dangerous machinery, or they often of a lower quality, don't speak english well enough for the job, or recent grads with no experience.
A younger crowd may command the top salaries at a "hi-tech" (or all software) position, but you really need some experience with process automation. The qualified applicants are few and far-between. Just what I see, and I'm out in the field.
If they can't GIVE the jobs away they should try paying people to take the jobs.
And do you know how much a typical IA engineer makes? The compensation is quite ample. Not too sure what your objection is here. Also bare in mind that there are some pretty qualified engineers in China who will do the job for considerably less than what they are paying here. All the company has to do is relocate, if it becomes an issue.
That's Japan. Respect for elders is ingrained in the culture since ancient times. On the main topic; if you want to be employed well into your 60's get into hardware and learn how to program plcs. I work in industrial automation and I highly doubt I'll be going anywhere soon. They can't GIVE these jobs away. Simply not enough workers.
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Speak for yourself. A company I just finished a contract for is doing just fine with embedded linux.
Yeah, it does. Having worked with "those on the bottom" in medical social assistance for a dozen years those "on the bottom" are there by and large by choice; largely by choosing substance abuse over anything else, and young women consciously choosing to have children unwed and choosing to have the state be the breadwinner and father. The numbers are bolstered by a huge margin by migrant farm workers. These people are on the bottom rung largely by choice, by refusing to use public assistance to get an education that is a REQUIREMENT for working in today's market. The assistance they get goes into their veins. If you're trying to paint the system as some kind of systematic oppression by those on the top I frankly don't see it. Sure, you can go into some complicated social calculation that shows some kind of oppression cause by the free market and so on, but for those of us in the trenches I simply see a group of people who seem to be quite content (not happy, but content) to live in shit and rob each other and tax payers for the money they need to further this chosen life style.
A free market at least give you choice. If you want to choose that, you're free to do so.
What your talking about, and painting a picture of; is some kind of systematic program of enslavement and oppression simply doesn't exist, at least not to the levels you're imagining. Oppression and enslavement exist, no doubt about it. But as some kind of established, ongoing program in all free market economies? Come on. Give me a break.
Well, you don't spend millions, typically. You just need a few certs for your domain, depending on the number of servers that's a few grand? And I don't know how that works with visualization in the mix.
The cert business (and it is a business, don't let them kid you), is all about trust. They're selling trust. The only reason they're in business is to sell you (if you're running a business web site) is to sell you a piece of code that removes the "untrusted" nag a browser presents the user when they access your secured web site, because they come with a collection of pre-installed certs from recognized CAs. If your willing to put a note on your site telling your users that they need to install YOUR cert, and its a one time thing, then there's really no need to buy into these CAs.
But a lot of enterprises aren't willing to do this, they want the user (who are by and large unfamiliar and don't want to become familiar with this simple process) not to have to deal with it. So the CA business is really a house of cards. They're in business because they got in early and have endorsements from other large entities, the US gov. for one.
I sometimes wonder what the process is like to set up another CA and get the major browser makers to buy in. What would stop you and me from setting up a CA and getting our cert pre-installed on the browsers?
it just sucks at liberty, life and the pursuit of happiness).
Incorrect. It works brilliantly at all three of those aims, while communism appears to work at social slavery (your already forgetting the Berlin Wall & Tienanmen Square?). What it lacks is certainty, which I'll agree with. Of course the certainty that a planned economy brings is in my mind a rather lacking. While a market economy brings uncertainty every quarter, a planned economy brings only it every 50 years. I guess some people don't mind the wait.
Have you ever considered the possibility that the style of communism you are talking about simply isn't possible?
Sure, I will if you'll pull your head out of a book and take a look at the real world, socialism doesn't seem to work so well. Sometimes, just because the rest of the world is doing it, doesn't mean its good.
I think what he meant to say is "I'd really hate to be an unskilled laborer/worker right now.", in which case he's right. the days of walking out of high school into your dad's old cannery job and doing it until you retire are long gone.
I did the same thing for a small media server I set up; bought a Via picoitx system and on a whim chose a 60G SSD to install the os on, and use a 2 TB usb drive to serve up the media. Works really well. The ssd is good on heat.
I am very cynical that governments can escape the running down of the economy.
And I am very cynical that we can escape our governments. Why, in your opinion, does a government need to escape (a bad, I assume you mean) economy? Especially when they are often the cause of a bad one? This apparent, and somewhat common, in my opinion, view that we exist to serve our respective governments rather than our governments existing to serve us is pervasive and distressing to me. I see it in liberal and leftist leaning users, for the most part, and I always have to ask "why"? Perhaps you didn't mean it the way it sounds to me. I can only hope.
GEEK ALERT!
I would argue that Euclid's Elements was the book that started it all. Without it your (or at least my) first program wouldn't have been a simple little ditty to compute the area of a circle using RSTS/E Basic+.
Python's not THAT bad.
Were they the wild and crazy guys of story and song?
Which does nothing to further your mastery of coding.
Vaughn Bode fan, excellent...
I had a Newton. The handwriting recognition was pretty darn good as I recall. You had to use a stylus, but hey, in the day, it was to beat the band.
As I said, we're not looking for software engineers. Sorry, but that's the breaks. As I said in MY ORIGINAL POST; get into hardware.
I guess you're in the wrong part of the country. I'm telling you, we don't have enough.
There is simply a shortage of qualified engineers who are prepared to work 100+ hours a week for peanuts.
You're wrong. I'm paid well, and everyone I work with is paid well. And I don't work 100+ hours a week. You're knee-jerk reaction is worthless. I'm telling you, we can't hire people, they aren't coming in the door. And when they do, they aren't qualified. That's it. There's nothing else I see in my workplace that describes the situation any better.
Certain international observers cannot find an answer to this question: How did China make such remarkable progress in such a short time? "The socialist system with Chinese characteristics, which fully embodies the distinctive features and strengths of socialism with Chinese characteristics, is a fundamental institutional guarantee of the development and progress of contemporary China," Hu Jintao uncovered the reasons for China's remarkable progress in his speech marking the Party's 90th birthday on July 1.
Of course manipulating your own currency and ensuring your workers make sub-standard wages with a little dose of ignoring certain building standards when making bridges (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6945301.stm) and acting like usurpers and counter insurgents are poisoning your international baby milk products for export (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1841535,00.html) does a lot to spread FUD. Those poor, misunderstood commie bastard Chinese.
GRADUATE LEVEL VOCATIONAL EDUCATION... I've said it before, I'll say it again... it worked in the past... some institutions have it, you can find a lot of that kind of thing in europe, why its not here... well I know why. Money. Or the lack thereof.
I can't buy Mr. Wadhwa's initial premise here; in simple terms that even I can understand he's saying the bulk of US engineers are allocated to non-engineering or trivial, applied engineering tasks. So he's saying qualified engineers are stuck doing work they weren't really trained for, I'm an electrical engineer, and here's what I see; job requisitions go unfulfilled for months at my work and others I speak to in the industry, and a lot of the people I see are recent grads, not appropriate for installed bases running dangerous machinery, or they often of a lower quality, don't speak english well enough for the job, or recent grads with no experience. A younger crowd may command the top salaries at a "hi-tech" (or all software) position, but you really need some experience with process automation. The qualified applicants are few and far-between. Just what I see, and I'm out in the field.
Oh, yeah, good one.
If they can't GIVE the jobs away they should try paying people to take the jobs.
And do you know how much a typical IA engineer makes? The compensation is quite ample. Not too sure what your objection is here. Also bare in mind that there are some pretty qualified engineers in China who will do the job for considerably less than what they are paying here. All the company has to do is relocate, if it becomes an issue.
That's Japan. Respect for elders is ingrained in the culture since ancient times. On the main topic; if you want to be employed well into your 60's get into hardware and learn how to program plcs. I work in industrial automation and I highly doubt I'll be going anywhere soon. They can't GIVE these jobs away. Simply not enough workers.