Good point but, Dude, that was a possible example.It was obvious enough to get, but neutral enough to rely on stereotypes. (He could have referred to the racial stereotype of the lazy black eating watermelon or something similar, less true but even more insulting than Kanye West)
And you're even leaving out the probably largest reason why polls divert from actual results. For the sake of the argument, assume all your assumptions and correction factors would be spot on and you could predict the outcome perfectly.
Now publish your prediction:
What happens? People who were bound to vote for the leading candidate stay at home because they think their candidate won't need their votes anymore, but people who want to support the second place candidate (by polls) are activated to actually vote.
Publishing a poll has a huge effect on election results.
Trump won because enough people were more than willing to believe even the most absurd stories they read on facebook or everywhere.
That only starts at "Hillary performing satanic rituals" and this is not where it ended. even if less than 1000 people believed that (or believed it enough to change their vote) it has to be multiplied with the amazing number of fake stories, that are clearly recognizable as fake. Heck even satire was taken at face value by more than 1000 people without half a brain!
Yeah, my dad told me almost 20 years about about parts outsourcing to China. When they got the parts back the tolerance was not tight enough for the application (aviation), so they told China it didn't meet the spec. China said they would need to by the equipment to produce parts to that specification. Factoring in the cost of the new equipment, it would have been cheaper for my dad's company to buy the part in the US.
and let me guess how your story ended: Your dads company bought someone at the FAA to increase the allowed tolerances for those parts enough that the cheaper parts from china were good enough.
That's either a usual pissing-contest like display of power ("I have people to do email for me"), uncureable backwardness ("Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?") or a obvious cover-my-ass just as any petty criminal would to to avoid leaving tracks.
So, why again should we use that as a role-model? Why are we letting get them away with it to begin with?
If I am selling holiday packages to Vietnam, I would want to not advertise to the Vietnamese.
I can see why you wouldn't want to advertise to people in Vietnam, but why wouldn't you want to advertise to Vietnamese people? There'd be a disproportionately high number who'd want to visit their birthplace or the birthplace of their parents, surely?
They wouldn't be interested in complete holiday packages. No-frills-flights: yes. But they don't need the package with fancy hotels, guided tours and that whole tourist stuff. So while you would want to market flights to Vietnam to Vietnamese, that would be a different product.
Your argument is a good one, except that to make it fit lets remove the ski mask and the crowbar and the house alarm.
Is it then a crime carry a bag of jewelry at night?
No.
But is it probable cause to do so when there is a warrant out and you are wanted for jewelry theft?
I should think so.
If the suspect had card readers, or other paraphernalia present that would facilitate the reading/access/spoofing the of the cards, your analogy would be spot on and I would further argue that it was enough to constitute probable cause. But mere possession alone. Just that. Just possession of the cards, is not enough.
It's definitely not enough to be considered a crime.
But definitely enough for reasonable suspicion. Reasonable enough to ask for an at least possible legit reason. Even if they made up a threadbare story about prizes for an orphanage fund raiser raffle on the spot, that may have been something worthy of discussing if the LEO still had probable cause, but here nothing was presented to dispel a reasonable suspicion.
I don't know that much about the exact inner organisation of the US law enforcement, but as long as one could be obtained in time that would realistically allow to find a judge and have him issue it and send it back to the police officer waiting at the side of the road, yes.
How long would it take to get one? Do they have a judge on call that could fax it back to the police patrol?
If the legal system can handle issuing search warrants fast enough, I don't see any legal problems to require a search warrant. I'm positive that US gouvernment bureaucracy should be optimized enough to solve that on an organisational level.
The reasons not only need to be legal and possible, but also more probable than carrying them as part of criminal activity.
In addition, ANY of those possible causes could have been given to the officer when he asked why a wanted criminal travels with a bag full of giftcards.
I already gave the example above. There are uncountable legal reasons to carry a crowbar. But there also are circumstances that create more than probable cause to suspect the guy carrying it of robbing a house.
Is it a crime to be in possession of credit cards / gift cards? (No)
Is it a crime to carry a crowbar and a bag of jewelry at night while wearing a black ski mask while a house alarm can be heard from down the street?
No.
Does it matter? Heck No!
Because there is more than probable cause that this is the guy who just broke into that house!
Is driving a guy with an outstanding warrant a hint to a crime going on? Yes, it's probable that the driver (without a license!) is helping that guy to evade arrest.
Is the information contained in a credit card / gift card in plain view? (No).
Well, the mag stripe should not contain any other data than printed on the front of the cards (card number)
In addition: Like cash, gift cards are usually sold at face value from stores. How could some guy sell them at a "discount"? 143 cards??
I completely agree with you that it is a live experience that should be experienced live.
But it's a difference between a 20 seconds clip to try to make your friends green with envy (if that's possible with the crappy quality) or to serve as a souvenir (only needs to be barely recognizable for that) or trying to make the worst replacement of a professional DVD production.
Best solution I've seen was a singer-songwriter. At the beginning he asked the audience to put phones away until the encore, during which the stage (and house) lighting would be set in a way that would allow for at least somewhat acceptable picture quality. Result: Audience (and artist) got an undisturbed show AND souvenir material.
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Not even that would have been neccessary. They could have changed the outcome also by staying home.
not my job to educate them - start at parenting, move to schools. if idiots listen to any story anywhere without validating it then that's their loss.
Or our loss. Evidence A: Tuesdays election results.
OK. People don't need to be actually stupid and you put it into much better words, but it's still not something you can blame facebook for.
And I would prefer if ou could (technically fake also) satire stories on fb without having to nerf dem down with the infamous sarcasm tag
Only if you're more keen on finding an easy target to blame.
Pointing at facebook is much easier than starting to educate people.
Next step. Sue him for something. Anything. But it's easy taking a crap shot at someone with deep pockets.
Most white people I know think Kanye is a joke, I didn't realize black people would be offended to be associated with him too!
Well, I would! But I'm neither black nor American, so...
Fake news on facebook did not effect the election. It was the people stupid enough to believe them.
Good point but, Dude, that was a possible example.It was obvious enough to get, but neutral enough to rely on stereotypes. (He could have referred to the racial stereotype of the lazy black eating watermelon or something similar, less true but even more insulting than Kanye West)
That's not from DST but rather from getting into a pointless rage about DST twice a year.
And you're even leaving out the probably largest reason why polls divert from actual results. For the sake of the argument, assume all your assumptions and correction factors would be spot on and you could predict the outcome perfectly.
Now publish your prediction:
What happens? People who were bound to vote for the leading candidate stay at home because they think their candidate won't need their votes anymore, but people who want to support the second place candidate (by polls) are activated to actually vote.
Publishing a poll has a huge effect on election results.
You.
If so called fact checkers don't give links to reliable sources, they're not worth being called fact-checkers.
Trump did NOT win because of facebook.
Trump won because enough people were more than willing to believe even the most absurd stories they read on facebook or everywhere.
That only starts at "Hillary performing satanic rituals" and this is not where it ended. even if less than 1000 people believed that (or believed it enough to change their vote) it has to be multiplied with the amazing number of fake stories, that are clearly recognizable as fake. Heck even satire was taken at face value by more than 1000 people without half a brain!
Yeah, my dad told me almost 20 years about about parts outsourcing to China. When they got the parts back the tolerance was not tight enough for the application (aviation), so they told China it didn't meet the spec. China said they would need to by the equipment to produce parts to that specification. Factoring in the cost of the new equipment, it would have been cheaper for my dad's company to buy the part in the US.
and let me guess how your story ended: Your dads company bought someone at the FAA to increase the allowed tolerances for those parts enough that the cheaper parts from china were good enough.
In other words: Quod licet jovi, non licet bovi.
That's either a usual pissing-contest like display of power ("I have people to do email for me"), uncureable backwardness ("Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?") or a obvious cover-my-ass just as any petty criminal would to to avoid leaving tracks.
So, why again should we use that as a role-model? Why are we letting get them away with it to begin with?
In other words: "Fine. Whatever." *shrug*
Simply put, the race of the person being advertised to should not be a criteria that is even available for selection by the advertiser.
Why should gender be allowed as a criteria then?
I can see why you wouldn't want to advertise to people in Vietnam, but why wouldn't you want to advertise to Vietnamese people? There'd be a disproportionately high number who'd want to visit their birthplace or the birthplace of their parents, surely?
They wouldn't be interested in complete holiday packages. No-frills-flights: yes. But they don't need the package with fancy hotels, guided tours and that whole tourist stuff. So while you would want to market flights to Vietnam to Vietnamese, that would be a different product.
Your argument is a good one, except that to make it fit lets remove the ski mask and the crowbar and the house alarm.
Is it then a crime carry a bag of jewelry at night?
No.
But is it probable cause to do so when there is a warrant out and you are wanted for jewelry theft?
I should think so.
If the suspect had card readers, or other paraphernalia present that would facilitate the reading/access/spoofing the of the cards, your analogy would be spot on and I would further argue that it was enough to constitute probable cause.
But mere possession alone. Just that. Just possession of the cards, is not enough.
It's definitely not enough to be considered a crime.
But definitely enough for reasonable suspicion. Reasonable enough to ask for an at least possible legit reason. Even if they made up a threadbare story about prizes for an orphanage fund raiser raffle on the spot, that may have been something worthy of discussing if the LEO still had probable cause, but here nothing was presented to dispel a reasonable suspicion.
In theory, yes.
I don't know that much about the exact inner organisation of the US law enforcement, but as long as one could be obtained in time that would realistically allow to find a judge and have him issue it and send it back to the police officer waiting at the side of the road, yes.
How long would it take to get one? Do they have a judge on call that could fax it back to the police patrol?
If the legal system can handle issuing search warrants fast enough, I don't see any legal problems to require a search warrant. I'm positive that US gouvernment bureaucracy should be optimized enough to solve that on an organisational level.
The reasons not only need to be legal and possible, but also more probable than carrying them as part of criminal activity.
In addition, ANY of those possible causes could have been given to the officer when he asked why a wanted criminal travels with a bag full of giftcards.
I already gave the example above. There are uncountable legal reasons to carry a crowbar. But there also are circumstances that create more than probable cause to suspect the guy carrying it of robbing a house.
Is it a crime to be in possession of credit cards / gift cards? (No)
Is it a crime to carry a crowbar and a bag of jewelry at night while wearing a black ski mask while a house alarm can be heard from down the street?
No.
Does it matter? Heck No!
Because there is more than probable cause that this is the guy who just broke into that house!
Is driving a guy with an outstanding warrant a hint to a crime going on? Yes, it's probable that the driver (without a license!) is helping that guy to evade arrest.
Is the information contained in a credit card / gift card in plain view? (No).
Well, the mag stripe should not contain any other data than printed on the front of the cards (card number)
In addition: Like cash, gift cards are usually sold at face value from stores. How could some guy sell them at a "discount"? 143 cards??
The whoel situation is more than suspiscious
Would that be a difference to a pipeline bursting and exploding in his backyard?
Or are you simply glad that the pipeline won't run through your backyard?
Your phone is never in their possession. It's always in your possession, but in a locked bag. (taht will be unlocked remotely after the show)
I beg to differ.
I completely agree with you that it is a live experience that should be experienced live.
But it's a difference between a 20 seconds clip to try to make your friends green with envy (if that's possible with the crappy quality) or to serve as a souvenir (only needs to be barely recognizable for that) or trying to make the worst replacement of a professional DVD production.
Best solution I've seen was a singer-songwriter. At the beginning he asked the audience to put phones away until the encore, during which the stage (and house) lighting would be set in a way that would allow for at least somewhat acceptable picture quality. Result: Audience (and artist) got an undisturbed show AND souvenir material.
So.. how many countries do you know that keep military bases in other countries?
It protects them from getting pinched by sites that have deals with content producers.
Making deals with content providers is what I expect from a streaming service!