It's not a global conspiracy. It's global stupidity based on bad science. I'm not alone in not believing in it and am in rather good company if I have to say so.
Science is not a religion. And I actually made a mistake. AGW is not bad science. It can't even be called science at all since it does not follow the scientific method.
There is actual historical evidence that there were droughts and higher temperatures in the MWP in Mongolia. Which is in Eurasia. There is plenty of evidence of the same effect happening elsewhere all over the globe. Even Wikipedia has plenty of examples of this. Claims that it only happened in the Atlantic are ridiculous on the face of it. It goes against actual archeological evidence. It goes against recorded history. But don't let that stop you from believing the Mann.
The "convincing evidence" of NASA is not convincing. And you sure downmod other people well while shielding yourself from being modded little anonymous coward.
It does not follow that increased CO2 causes more desertification. The argument is pathetic on the face of it. You just need to look at the fossil record for evidence. The Jurassic is a fine counter-example of it. And it is known as a fact that with increased CO2 levels plants need less water to grow.
Also looking at tree ring data to figure out moisture or CO2 levels is flawed beyond measure. Tree growth is dependent on a low of factors which include blight, nutrients and other factors which have nothing to do with the weather. It's a mix of factors and you can't isolate one factor by looking at them like that. I also have to wonder if they are not mistaking the consequences for the causes when they do their little analysis.
Desertification of the likes that happened in the MWP can be a real problem but this "research" does nothing to help with it.
I'm not asking for anyone to believe me. I gave quotes to the appropriate historical record when needs be you can check it out for yourself. And if you guys can't spot the logical fallacies which litter NASA's little video I have to doubt your ability to reason properly.
The video begins from a real problem, then extrapolates a theory based on a ridiculous premise, and reaches the conclusion that AGW is the bogeyman in the end. NASA does a gigantic fallacy of defective induction in that video. And you just believe it because some NASA scientist is speaking in it. Can't you people think for yourselves?
People have been asking for Samsung to get rid of its proprietary apps and use stock Android and Google Apps for the longest of time and now that they finally removed their apps they put Microsoft's in. Jesus.
I guess it is time to buy a Chinese phone with stock Android.
Ask him why the shepherd nomadic Genghis Khan led Mongol hordes bothered leaving Mongolia in the MWP. I thought Mongolia was in Eurasia. Even the Zhou Chinese knew well enough that Xiongnu invasions happened when they could not feed themselves. Particularly in dry years where their cattle did not have enough land to graze on.
Yes. Obscuring measurements by lying with statistics is more scientific. Guess what. I gave you one sample. Average a bunch of those and you can do your own statistics.
Just don't forget to apply a 'correction' to my measurement since I'm obviously biased and I must surely be wrong.
Climate. Measured in tree rings. The only info you can get from those is how much the tree grew that year in that zip code.
So you take a measure of a bunch of trees and that's 'climate' for you. The thing is rather unsurprisingly tree growth is dependent on more things than water and CO2.
I got a sense alright. I know Earth history and geology well to know that AGW is bunk, bad science, and still morons like you defend it. You handwave actual experience and measurements with faith into things you can't see. AGW is the new religion for atheist genocidal morons.
I watched the video. Pathetic. So there is no record of long droughts in the US. But it is going to get worse! I suggest you ask the Anasazi why they left their lands. Oh geez. A 300 year drought without any SUVs and with less population?
We are talking about Russia here. They might have a dilapidated military compared to what they had during the USSR but they still have a lot more power projection capabilities than Germany.
NASA was failing hard by insisting on using the Shuttle to launch everything. The Russians had really good LOX/Kerosene staged combustion rocket engine technology so it was a good idea to get the engines. The problems started when the US contractors cheapened out and decided not to start US manufacturing of the engines as originally planned. The Russians transferred all the required technical documentation and provided a production license to do it.
The ISS probably wouldn't be orbiting right now if the Russians weren't part of the program due to the Shuttle being canned but the USA will have capabilities to fully resupply it once COTS is up.
It is just some demonstrator aircraft. The USAF has the X-37 to do the same kinds of tasks and it is operational. As for manned space flight SpaceX basically has the required capabilities if they really needed someone up.
In economic terms it might not make sense but in strategic terms it might make sense. Given the current situation with Russia an overland route is problematic. The Baltic states have cultural ties to Finland. The only other overland route to the EU is by Poland but this is stuck between Kaliningrad and Belarus.
I doubt those countries can fund it by themselves.
The Japanese undersea tunnel to Hokkaido makes no economic sense either. It was still built for strategic reasons back when the USSR was still around.
The oil price collapse certainly put a dent into his plans. Otherwise he could have done extremely well. If Russia successfully annexed Ukraine all of a sudden they would have gained a lot of population and heavy industry including the USSR shipyards. He did it a bit too early though. The Russian military did not finish their modernization program on time. Neither did China.
The EUSSR is a bit of a mess. Gigantic in theory but in practice it is worth less than the sum of its parts.
A lot of the faults in what is happening in Europe right now are due to a lack of political direction and lack of stomach to do important strategic investments. Read about Nabucco and North Stream to get an idea. The Germans claim they can do everything and try to cultivate an aura of invincibility but in practice they don't want to pay for anything with large upfront costs. Once Nord Stream came online Putin felt safe that he could invade Ukraine just fine while he kept selling natural gas to Germany at the same time. This is because he knows how important these kinds of strategic investments are. He is doing it again by funding large natural oil and gas pipelines in the Far East. So he can just switch the direction he's pumping the gas if he wants to continue pushing his strategic interests further West. At the same time France and Germany this week basically handed him a chunk of Eastern Ukraine on a platter. He's not going to stop at just that. He'll probably only stop once he cleaves Ukraine neatly in half taking their heavy industry with it including Antonov and Morozov. Next he might try to vassalize the Baltic states.
As for the Euro whoever had the stupid idea of making a single currency area, with free currency transfers, without a banking union was a moron. Had we a banking union then Ireland, Spain, Portugal wouldn't be in the dire straits they are right now. Greece has a lot of structural issues which cannot be easily solved in a generation. They were part of the Ottoman Empire until 1822 and had a lot of dictatorships, civil wars, and WWII in between. And structural reforms, to me at least, are about deeper changes than slashing pensions or salaries which is nothing more than shock therapy and does nothing to solve the real problems they have.
The problems of Greece happen elsewhere as well. The US has plenty of bankrupt states but they don't threaten to kick them out of the Union for it. Comparing Greece with Hungary in that way makes little sense. Of those EUR 200 billion loans over 90% of it went straight to cover French and German private bank loans. Hungary got structural funds which will be invested into the local economy. Considering that Hungary is not on the Eurozone and has different PPP those EUR 20 billion will do more in Hungary than they would in Greece. I agree that more funding should have been provided to Eastern Europe but part of the problem was the the EU grew way too fast for its own good.
Germany has no nuclear weapons, no nuclear submarines. They have 183k people in their military while France has 215k despite Germany having more population than France. The German Navy has poor power projection capabilities. They have decent tanks and other military hardware but their Air Force and Navy are kind of dire.
When you give the political reigns to beancounters it is what happens. Everyone is too busy trying to protect their own interest right now to bother with things like that. People do not bother thinking about geopolitics anymore. If Russia actually got serious there are only two countries in Europe with any kind of military muscle that could do anything. France and the UK. The UK basically froze its military upgrades once the Conservatives came to power and basically the same thing happened in France with the Socialists. The US is too busy being concerned with China and the Middle East to devote serious time to Europe at this moment. Plus with sequestration they cannot do a lot of spending either.
The Poles at least figured out by now that they are basically on their own and started doing their own military acquisition program.
If it was a natural gas pipeline across the whole Baltic funded by the Russians which they have to pay through the nose in transit fees it would be fine. As long as you hide the bill they can swallow it just fine.
It's not a global conspiracy. It's global stupidity based on bad science. I'm not alone in not believing in it and am in rather good company if I have to say so.
Science is not a religion. And I actually made a mistake. AGW is not bad science. It can't even be called science at all since it does not follow the scientific method.
There is actual historical evidence that there were droughts and higher temperatures in the MWP in Mongolia. Which is in Eurasia. There is plenty of evidence of the same effect happening elsewhere all over the globe. Even Wikipedia has plenty of examples of this. Claims that it only happened in the Atlantic are ridiculous on the face of it. It goes against actual archeological evidence. It goes against recorded history. But don't let that stop you from believing the Mann.
The "convincing evidence" of NASA is not convincing. And you sure downmod other people well while shielding yourself from being modded little anonymous coward.
It does not follow that increased CO2 causes more desertification. The argument is pathetic on the face of it. You just need to look at the fossil record for evidence. The Jurassic is a fine counter-example of it. And it is known as a fact that with increased CO2 levels plants need less water to grow.
Also looking at tree ring data to figure out moisture or CO2 levels is flawed beyond measure. Tree growth is dependent on a low of factors which include blight, nutrients and other factors which have nothing to do with the weather. It's a mix of factors and you can't isolate one factor by looking at them like that. I also have to wonder if they are not mistaking the consequences for the causes when they do their little analysis.
Desertification of the likes that happened in the MWP can be a real problem but this "research" does nothing to help with it.
I'm not asking for anyone to believe me. I gave quotes to the appropriate historical record when needs be you can check it out for yourself. And if you guys can't spot the logical fallacies which litter NASA's little video I have to doubt your ability to reason properly.
The video begins from a real problem, then extrapolates a theory based on a ridiculous premise, and reaches the conclusion that AGW is the bogeyman in the end. NASA does a gigantic fallacy of defective induction in that video. And you just believe it because some NASA scientist is speaking in it. Can't you people think for yourselves?
Samsung is too big for Microsoft to sabotage like that. But they still can kill their smartphone division if they want to.
People have been asking for Samsung to get rid of its proprietary apps and use stock Android and Google Apps for the longest of time and now that they finally removed their apps they put Microsoft's in. Jesus.
I guess it is time to buy a Chinese phone with stock Android.
Those damn NASA scientists trying to put one over on old cheesybagel, you betcha.
That's an appeal to authority argument PopeRatzo.
Your parents should have read to you the fable of the Emperor's New Clothes.
Michael Mann. Great.
Ask him why the shepherd nomadic Genghis Khan led Mongol hordes bothered leaving Mongolia in the MWP. I thought Mongolia was in Eurasia. Even the Zhou Chinese knew well enough that Xiongnu invasions happened when they could not feed themselves. Particularly in dry years where their cattle did not have enough land to graze on.
There's more to rain than getting water up. It must fall down as well. Snatch.
Yes. Obscuring measurements by lying with statistics is more scientific. Guess what. I gave you one sample. Average a bunch of those and you can do your own statistics.
Just don't forget to apply a 'correction' to my measurement since I'm obviously biased and I must surely be wrong.
I wish I was there. I'm getting sick of all the rain. The slugs are everywhere.
Yes you genocidal twit.
I see. Sarcasm is something that escapes a lot of people in the USA.
Climate. Measured in tree rings. The only info you can get from those is how much the tree grew that year in that zip code.
So you take a measure of a bunch of trees and that's 'climate' for you. The thing is rather unsurprisingly tree growth is dependent on more things than water and CO2.
I got a sense alright. I know Earth history and geology well to know that AGW is bunk, bad science, and still morons like you defend it. You handwave actual experience and measurements with faith into things you can't see. AGW is the new religion for atheist genocidal morons.
I watched the video. Pathetic. So there is no record of long droughts in the US. But it is going to get worse! I suggest you ask the Anasazi why they left their lands. Oh geez. A 300 year drought without any SUVs and with less population?
Better ask those middle ages people to stop burning fossil fuels and stop having kids then. Oh wait.
These AGW stories keep getting more pathetic as time goes by. I don't remember a year as wet as this one in 30 years.
We are talking about Russia here. They might have a dilapidated military compared to what they had during the USSR but they still have a lot more power projection capabilities than Germany.
NASA was failing hard by insisting on using the Shuttle to launch everything. The Russians had really good LOX/Kerosene staged combustion rocket engine technology so it was a good idea to get the engines. The problems started when the US contractors cheapened out and decided not to start US manufacturing of the engines as originally planned. The Russians transferred all the required technical documentation and provided a production license to do it.
The ISS probably wouldn't be orbiting right now if the Russians weren't part of the program due to the Shuttle being canned but the USA will have capabilities to fully resupply it once COTS is up.
It is just some demonstrator aircraft. The USAF has the X-37 to do the same kinds of tasks and it is operational. As for manned space flight SpaceX basically has the required capabilities if they really needed someone up.
In economic terms it might not make sense but in strategic terms it might make sense. Given the current situation with Russia an overland route is problematic. The Baltic states have cultural ties to Finland. The only other overland route to the EU is by Poland but this is stuck between Kaliningrad and Belarus.
I doubt those countries can fund it by themselves.
The Japanese undersea tunnel to Hokkaido makes no economic sense either. It was still built for strategic reasons back when the USSR was still around.
The oil price collapse certainly put a dent into his plans. Otherwise he could have done extremely well. If Russia successfully annexed Ukraine all of a sudden they would have gained a lot of population and heavy industry including the USSR shipyards. He did it a bit too early though. The Russian military did not finish their modernization program on time. Neither did China.
The EUSSR is a bit of a mess. Gigantic in theory but in practice it is worth less than the sum of its parts.
A lot of the faults in what is happening in Europe right now are due to a lack of political direction and lack of stomach to do important strategic investments. Read about Nabucco and North Stream to get an idea. The Germans claim they can do everything and try to cultivate an aura of invincibility but in practice they don't want to pay for anything with large upfront costs. Once Nord Stream came online Putin felt safe that he could invade Ukraine just fine while he kept selling natural gas to Germany at the same time. This is because he knows how important these kinds of strategic investments are. He is doing it again by funding large natural oil and gas pipelines in the Far East. So he can just switch the direction he's pumping the gas if he wants to continue pushing his strategic interests further West. At the same time France and Germany this week basically handed him a chunk of Eastern Ukraine on a platter. He's not going to stop at just that. He'll probably only stop once he cleaves Ukraine neatly in half taking their heavy industry with it including Antonov and Morozov. Next he might try to vassalize the Baltic states.
As for the Euro whoever had the stupid idea of making a single currency area, with free currency transfers, without a banking union was a moron. Had we a banking union then Ireland, Spain, Portugal wouldn't be in the dire straits they are right now. Greece has a lot of structural issues which cannot be easily solved in a generation. They were part of the Ottoman Empire until 1822 and had a lot of dictatorships, civil wars, and WWII in between. And structural reforms, to me at least, are about deeper changes than slashing pensions or salaries which is nothing more than shock therapy and does nothing to solve the real problems they have.
The problems of Greece happen elsewhere as well. The US has plenty of bankrupt states but they don't threaten to kick them out of the Union for it. Comparing Greece with Hungary in that way makes little sense. Of those EUR 200 billion loans over 90% of it went straight to cover French and German private bank loans. Hungary got structural funds which will be invested into the local economy. Considering that Hungary is not on the Eurozone and has different PPP those EUR 20 billion will do more in Hungary than they would in Greece. I agree that more funding should have been provided to Eastern Europe but part of the problem was the the EU grew way too fast for its own good.
Germany has no nuclear weapons, no nuclear submarines. They have 183k people in their military while France has 215k despite Germany having more population than France. The German Navy has poor power projection capabilities. They have decent tanks and other military hardware but their Air Force and Navy are kind of dire.
When you give the political reigns to beancounters it is what happens. Everyone is too busy trying to protect their own interest right now to bother with things like that. People do not bother thinking about geopolitics anymore. If Russia actually got serious there are only two countries in Europe with any kind of military muscle that could do anything. France and the UK. The UK basically froze its military upgrades once the Conservatives came to power and basically the same thing happened in France with the Socialists. The US is too busy being concerned with China and the Middle East to devote serious time to Europe at this moment. Plus with sequestration they cannot do a lot of spending either.
The Poles at least figured out by now that they are basically on their own and started doing their own military acquisition program.
If it was a natural gas pipeline across the whole Baltic funded by the Russians which they have to pay through the nose in transit fees it would be fine. As long as you hide the bill they can swallow it just fine.