Telephone: The telephone or phone is a telecommunications device which is used to transmit and receive sound (most commonly voice and speech) across distance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone/
That is all I want it for... The only bells & whistles I prefer are (Caller ID, Call Waiting, Voice Mail).. All this are available as part of the data packet send and received in communication so not really a feature..
Somehow Photos/E-mail/MP3/calendar does not come here. I wonder why?
It is either the subscribers who have problem understanding basics or the MKTG machine in the big PHONE companies want more of our money...
well something is happening right now @ price runner
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r u seriously saying "DON'T BUY THE GOODS". do u know that it is our right to buy and sell in the free market.
it is also important that we buy things in the market to promote economy....
the rule is that it should be a level and fair trading field. The case has been filed by people / manufacturers (against Jon) who fear that DeCSS is going to break the monopoly in this area.
Now it is interesting to see someone trying to support MONOPOLY..... r u from MS$:)
Every $ Product has a equivalent free product in the market. so making $ is not the issue, but should we allow the Manufacturers define what is our privilage and expenses ?
It is clear to everyone that Jon was only building a S/w for his Linux box so he could watch DVD. This S/w was being built on a product that already existed......
Effectively the case filed against Jon is void. Now if Justice is as follows :
"What he did is illegal". The we have a problem. Should the Manufactures be allowed to dictate the functionality of a product so that they along can profit for by selling it.....
If so then what is the difference between a LAW and a PATENT.
Also if this is illegal then the Casse of the DOJ against Microsoft should also be declared against Microsoft as this is exactly what MS$ was involved in. Bull to anyone who say's that MS$ cornered them into selling WINDOWS boxes with IE only. Everyone wants to make the big $, so instead of begging they make their product most wanted and corner everyone else into buying it.
Is this not what capitalism is all about.... in communism only the govt. has the right to this, so big $ making exists there also.
SO WHAT IS FREEDOM as defined by our constituiton (i guess every country has its own defeninition).
Now we will have to wait and really see the definition of FREEDOM as defined by the GLOBAL ECONOMIC and BUSINES Comunity.
This is one of the many discussions Comparing FreeBSD and Linux...
Well there have been many a comparison between these 2 and many good point coming out of them. In turn these two have been raised to such atechnical levels, to countermand their negatives in each reviews. This is possibly the only real success that Open Source or FSF have really met.
The real success would be in terms of the commecrial value of these system to support further enhancements. But the real situation is that commercial UNIX's like SUN / HP have still not implemented many of the good features that either FreeBSD or Linux have yet they are still outstanding in sales. To top the list the NET has whole list of pathetic performance of Windows NT and talk to any Sys ADMIN for the rest, still It tops the DeskTop...
Could the real reason be that the word FREE is being misrespresented as POOR QUALITY....
I cannot think of a better reason for wither Free BSD or Linux not achieving the Compatitive levels. Where do we start the real education... ?
Right, but this is atleast a start. Si far i have converted 2 of BMC's major KM's to work across platform.
I have removed all system() calls from the KM's and have only used PSL function to achieve it. Yeah it was a painful effort, but it was worth it. Also PSL is not really that big a programming language. It has along way to go for that. But still most of the Maintenence tasks could be taken care of.
Well i am Patrol Consultant, and have been running it in NT under VMWARE (http://www.vmware.com) in a LINUX Notebook. Frankely i have had enough reboots of the system.
I have been pretty successful considering that i am running it under NT. Well with Patrol for LINUX goodby to NT. I am up and running and my conviction on LINUX seems to be paying off. I think i will this to my BOSS for a raise:)
Well Patrol is a nifty little application/process monitoring system which has been around since the big machine and off late it has made a good impact on clusters and smaller networks.
the beauty of the systems monitoring market is that they all have been working with one another very nicely on the OS and Applications level without many people knowing what is going on.
Is BOB trying to tell us that Statistics is proof enough for a desecion ?!??!?
Well he should know (being one of the few people to have compiled a OS) more oftern than not the way statistical figures r read is the way answers will be.
The most important point which he he may not have understood or he greatfully ignores is actually society decides the life of a product and not the marketing force of a company.
This community has come together to do something good which they could all use. Now after finding it is good they are sharing the idealogy and the results of that with all others. Practically free of cost.
Over the years in Social Revolutions we have seen that the most successful once have been the once where comman man felt comfortable in a belief and started following and slowly everyone seemed to follow them. More often that not the person did it because he felt good and also someone else started feeling good and so on and on.
Here i think the primary problem is that many people for some vague reason have a inhibition against UNIX like system. This more of a pschycologial fear which has been there for as long as UNIX.
Yes in many ways LINUX does resemble UNIX and with more improvements which the UNIX market has also acknowledged. Why should LINUX not be like UNIX. I am yet to see a programming language which has replace C. I do not see that happenning. So effectively LINUX is an improvement of an idealogy which was born some 20 odd years ago. For sometime during in its teens it was wild then go into its business perspective and later matured to be dependable.
It is still growing......
Now Windows.........
I am yet come across a situation where people have pointed out that a particular feature was first implemented by WINDOWS which has been later on copied by UNIX world.
The point everyone is against is very simple. How many of us have not seen a WINDOZEEEEEEEEEEE or WINDOW crash ?
This factor has been going on and MS has been getting away with it so often that it does not seem to be of any use in testing one of their products. Either we whave not finished installing all the patches and upgrades and started our actual work or the product is killed by miscrosoft for something else.
Effectively the scoiety is being treated as a gueniea pig for MS whims and fancies. The best part is we pay them for that.
I think most of the problem MS is going to have in the coming years is the Quality of the product and NOT the product by itself. Because none of the products they have are their own creation, they are features added to idealogies which people had created long time ago.
Society has show once they do not believe in the quality of a commodity they do not have any qualms in turning their back on it.
This is something where LINUX might have a lead. Because it is the society which willingly doing the QC and the same society which make them work. So this might be just the edge that LINUX community has to prove that a society is more important than the product.
Do people really want to believe that they can decide if something is good or bad?
I guess this goes for Media as well. Do they not understand that is the user who makes it good or bad.
The internet in particular has had such a phenomenal impact on the lives of common people, which nobody finds interesting.
This is attitude inspite of seeing the goodness of NET the whole day.
Some incident like the one where a Girl in Europe with serious illness got locked in her school room and CALLED FOR HELP ON THE NET. Some child who was accessing the NET in US could understand her and helped save her by informing the elders.
This particular incident though a Life Saver for the Girl and a practicle effort for the child is US went practically unnoticed.
I guess people want stories where someone is BAD and someone is GOOD. For them that is a story and Where there is nothing BAD there is no FIGHT or BLOODSHED they are not interested.
This I feel is where a person grows up.
I know lot of good things happening on the NET, why can't the Children also be taught about the useful things and guided that way.
I defenitely do not see any effort to that end, except when some thing goes wrong, even if the BAD person has an e-mail account the NET becomes BAD.
NET is what we created, i guess wether it is GOOD or BAD, it what we put it to use for.
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That is all I want it for... The only bells & whistles I prefer are (Caller ID, Call Waiting, Voice Mail).. All this are available as part of the data packet send and received in communication so not really a feature..
Somehow Photos/E-mail/MP3/calendar does not come here. I wonder why?
It is either the subscribers who have problem understanding basics or the MKTG machine in the big PHONE companies want more of our money...
well something is happening right now @ price runner
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Boy are you new to the Universe ????
/., here we are purely for expressing our freedom such the giving you the freedom to post what you want.
.....
Did you not know that Freedom is the basic rule of the Society ?
Cracking and Virus is illegal, sure but at the same no one is talking about monopolizing and cornering the market.
Anyway you surely have not understood
I guess you should be able to appreciate it for having be allowed to post such a blatent general misconceived idea of your
Grow up kid !@##$@!@#
where r u from ?
....
:)
r u seriously saying "DON'T BUY THE GOODS". do u know that it is our right to buy and sell in the free market.
it is also important that we buy things in the market to promote economy
the rule is that it should be a level and fair trading field. The case has been filed by people / manufacturers (against Jon) who fear that DeCSS is going to break the monopoly in this area.
Now it is interesting to see someone trying to support MONOPOLY..... r u from MS$
Every $ Product has a equivalent free product in the market. so making $ is not the issue, but should we allow the Manufacturers define what is our privilage and expenses ?
It is clear to everyone that Jon was only building a S/w for his Linux box so he could watch DVD. This S/w was being built on a product that already existed......
.....
.... in communism only the govt. has the right to this, so big $ making exists there also.
Effectively the case filed against Jon is void. Now if Justice is as follows :
"What he did is illegal". The we have a problem. Should the Manufactures be allowed to dictate the functionality of a product so that they along can profit for by selling it
If so then what is the difference between a LAW and a PATENT.
Also if this is illegal then the Casse of the DOJ against Microsoft should also be declared against Microsoft as this is exactly what MS$ was involved in. Bull to anyone who say's that MS$ cornered them into selling WINDOWS boxes with IE only. Everyone wants to make the big $, so instead of begging they make their product most wanted and corner everyone else into buying it.
Is this not what capitalism is all about
SO WHAT IS FREEDOM as defined by our constituiton (i guess every country has its own defeninition).
Now we will have to wait and really see the definition of FREEDOM as defined by the GLOBAL ECONOMIC and BUSINES Comunity.
This is one of the many discussions Comparing FreeBSD and Linux ...
....
... ?
..
Well there have been many a comparison between these 2 and many good point coming out of them. In turn these two have been raised to such atechnical levels, to countermand their negatives in each reviews. This is possibly the only real success that Open Source or FSF have really met.
The real success would be in terms of the commecrial value of these system to support further enhancements. But the real situation is that commercial UNIX's like SUN / HP have still not implemented many of the good features that either FreeBSD or Linux have yet they are still outstanding in sales. To top the list the NET has whole list of pathetic performance of Windows NT and talk to any Sys ADMIN for the rest, still It tops the DeskTop...
Could the real reason be that the word FREE is being misrespresented as POOR QUALITY
I cannot think of a better reason for wither Free BSD or Linux not achieving the Compatitive levels. Where do we start the real education
I would like to help on this
Any suggestions
where did u get educated ..... r u educated at all ?
Right, but this is atleast a start. Si far i have converted 2 of BMC's major KM's to work across platform.
I have removed all system() calls from the KM's and have only used PSL function to achieve it. Yeah it was a painful effort, but it was worth it. Also PSL is not really that big a programming language. It has along way to go for that. But still most of the Maintenence tasks could be taken care of.
Anyway why don't u tinker around the KM and instead of shifting to the OS try working with the processes() function is PSL.
So far I have customized 10 BMC KM to really be platform independent. None of them have a system() call
Well i am Patrol Consultant, and have been running it in NT under VMWARE (http://www.vmware.com) in a LINUX Notebook. Frankely i have had enough reboots of the system.
:)
:)
I have been pretty successful considering that i am running it under NT. Well with Patrol for LINUX goodby to NT. I am up and running and my conviction on LINUX seems to be paying off. I think i will this to my BOSS for a raise
Way to go LINUX
May the source be with us
Well Patrol is a nifty little application/process monitoring system which has been around since the big machine and off late it has made a good impact on clusters and smaller networks.
the beauty of the systems monitoring market is that they all have been working with one another very nicely on the OS and Applications level without many people knowing what is going on.
Is BOB trying to tell us that Statistics is proof enough for a desecion ?!??!?
.........
Well he should know (being one of the few people to have compiled a OS) more oftern than not the way statistical figures r read is the way answers will be.
The most important point which he he may not have understood or he greatfully ignores is actually society decides the life of a product and not the marketing force of a company.
This community has come together to do something good which they could all use. Now after finding it is good they are sharing the idealogy and the results of that with all others. Practically free of cost.
Over the years in Social Revolutions we have seen that the most successful once have been the once where comman man felt comfortable in a belief and started following and slowly everyone seemed to follow them. More often that not the person did it because he felt good and also someone else started feeling good and so on and on.
Here i think the primary problem is that many people for some vague reason have a inhibition against UNIX like system. This more of a pschycologial fear which has been there for as long as UNIX.
Yes in many ways LINUX does resemble UNIX and with more improvements which the UNIX market has also acknowledged. Why should LINUX not be like UNIX. I am yet to see a programming language which has replace C. I do not see that happenning. So effectively LINUX is an improvement of an idealogy which was born some 20 odd years ago. For sometime during in its teens it was wild then go into its business perspective and later matured to be dependable.
It is still growing......
Now Windows
I am yet come across a situation where people have pointed out that a particular feature was first implemented by WINDOWS which has been later on copied by UNIX world.
The point everyone is against is very simple. How many of us have not seen a WINDOZEEEEEEEEEEE or WINDOW crash ?
This factor has been going on and MS has been getting away with it so often that it does not seem to be of any use in testing one of their products. Either we whave not finished installing all the patches and upgrades and started our actual work or the product is killed by miscrosoft for something else.
Effectively the scoiety is being treated as a gueniea pig for MS whims and fancies. The best part is we pay them for that.
I think most of the problem MS is going to have in the coming years is the Quality of the product and NOT the product by itself. Because none of the products they have are their own creation, they are features added to idealogies which people had created long time ago.
Society has show once they do not believe in the quality of a commodity they do not have any qualms in turning their back on it.
This is something where LINUX might have a lead. Because it is the society which willingly doing the QC and the same society which make them work. So this might be just the edge that LINUX community has to prove that a society is more important than the product.
well a structure was defenitely needs. somewhere we needs to have business structural pillars, ASF could be considered as one of those.
i guess only time will tell how many more will crop up.
slashdot could be next - ??????
Do people really want to believe that they can decide if something is good or bad?
I guess this goes for Media as well. Do they not understand that is the user who makes it good or bad.
The internet in particular has had such a phenomenal impact on the lives of common people, which nobody finds interesting.
This is attitude inspite of seeing the goodness of NET the whole day.
Some incident like the one where a Girl in Europe with serious illness got locked in her school room and CALLED FOR HELP ON THE NET. Some child who was accessing the NET in US could understand her and helped save her by informing the elders.
This particular incident though a Life Saver for the Girl and a practicle effort for the child is US went practically unnoticed.
I guess people want stories where someone is BAD and someone is GOOD. For them that is a story and Where there is nothing BAD there is no FIGHT or BLOODSHED they are not interested.
This I feel is where a person grows up.
I know lot of good things happening on the NET, why can't the Children also be taught about the useful things and guided that way.
I defenitely do not see any effort to that end, except when some thing goes wrong, even if the BAD person has an e-mail account the NET becomes BAD.
NET is what we created, i guess wether it is GOOD or BAD, it what we put it to use for.
The book by Gates is an apt example of this statement.
Who else could have made such statements with this many bug's in their products. Definitely not the ones who deliver good products !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Value is not what the sellar attaches to the product, but what the buyer percieves from it.
i guess ED would have to go back to his school for his lessons in english.
Value is not what the sellar attaches to the broduct, but what the buyer percieves from it.
i guess ED would have to go back to his school for his lessons in english.