The only problem is for those without work since they lose out, I would believe everyone else win because they can get more for less.
What good is say 25% higher "income" for the whole country by manufacturing items locally if you have to spend 3 times more to get them? Everyone still get less.
Just as I'd suspect anyone from another country would prefer their country to be the country of assembly for their next gadget.
Actually no.
Buying anything labeled "Made in Sweden" would most likely be much more expensive than "Made in China."
And regarding economy we shouldn't try to compete with China or the rest of east Asia for low-salary manufacturing of low-tech goods. What good could come from that? "Yeah! Finally we're at Chinas/whatever level!"
We should do things we do best / they don't, at-least as long as they are behind, and spend the money generated buying cheap stuff from them (that way we got more stuff than if it was created here to..)
Seems like I have to answer by my own account to cancel my moderation, wanted to moderate -1 overrated but my lame mouse doesn't work that well on the surface to it decided that I wanted to moderate it funny instead. And stupid Slashdot user-interface design got no confirm/moderate/ok button.
MorphOS isn't dead, classic AmigaOS-development would be, depending on how you look at it. Can't really say that's dead either but whatever.
No computer company behind MorphOS. But yeah, Amiga as a professionally ran organization has been dead for tens of years.
They port to the macs because they are PPC and the OS is written for PPC, and because they are cheap since they are old and people haven't got much other purpose for them.
They charge for the OS because it takes time to develop.. Feel free to volunteer all your own working hours.
Is there any Amiga-only software that is worth running today that doesn't depend on the custom hardware in the Amiga, is there any software that does anything useful that hasn't been ported or replicated on another platform?
Probably a lot of things which gets the work done but with none of the bloat of modern software.
I think it's up to the developer to decide what they want to do with their software and work. Not much free software for OS X either, lots of very simply stuff and helpful pieces are shareware or regular commercial applications there to.
Sure I find it disturbing and most likely not worth the cost compared to say what a game would cost, on the other hand I do understand that they won't sell as many copies and if they want any money for the product then they have to charge a higher price.
Lots of shareware may have full functionality though, you should pay, but most people won't.
The Ben NanoNote with a native install of AmigaOS (which would had been impossible, but an AmigaOS-like OS would do to) and an IBM Thinkpad styled mouse-knob would had been so cool:D
Now it's just a poor (compared to the screaming monsters people are used to nowadays, still great compared to a 486) Linux machine for creative users, but 366 MHz and 32 MB RAM for something at the level of AmigaOS and AmigaOS applications would be plenty and make for lots of fun, creativity & features.
... back in the days "because it could be done!" or "because the developer wanted to" was good enough reasons.
Back in the days Linux would had been crap compared to other more mature OSes, and the same thinking wouldn't had helped back then..
The problem with Amiga is of course that you don't get that many NEW applications. But there exists a lot of applications for the real Amiga and plenty of those would run in MorphOS by JIT emulation. Add MorphOS apps and UAE (which I assume is available to.)
The best reasons would probably be out of nostalgia and pure fun/simplicity.
There is a webkit browser port for MorphOS nowadays I believe, but that's probably the only real area lacking, and you could solve that by running the browser through remote desktop. For almost everything else I assume there is awesome native applications which will not be your usual free-software alternatives but still do the job and do it good.
For instance IRC, IM, e-mail, photo- and video viewers, trackers, music-players and such.
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The content extraction feature sounds a lot like the Readable Bookmarlet [appspot.com] that I've been running across browsers for the last year.
Almost, except is doesn't seem to work for many pages. Atleast wherever I read that :D
I think that I'll stick with Firefox and Chrome.
So you feel one fast browser is enough?
Sure there is, a binary file.
The text file is open for interpretation thanks to all the damn different charsets around.
Yeah because writing assembler code in vi will make it so much harder!!
Or maybe that to was a joke? Joke^2?
Safari 5 javascript performance may be 2.5% faster than Chrome 5
But Opera is faster than a potato!
I to want Apple to decide what webpages I may want to see (or put up on display for others.)
.. and HP noticed!
Some number from that globalfirepower-site:
US vs China:
U) Total Population: 303,824,640 [2008]
C) Total Population: 1,330,044,544 [2008]
U) Purchasing Power: $13,780,000,000,000 [2007]
C) Purchasing Power: $7,099,000,000,000 [2007]
U) Foreign Exch. & Gold: $70,570,000,000 [2007]
C) Foreign Exch. & Gold: $1,534,000,000,000 [2007]
U) Defense Budget: $515,400,000,000 [2009]
C) Defense Budget: $59,000,000,000 [2008]
CIA world fact book:
USA vs China:
GDP (purchasing power parity):
U) $14.26 trillion (2009 est.)
C) $8.789 trillion (2009 est.)
GDP - real growth rate:
U) -2.4% (2009 est.), 0.4% (2008 est.), 2.1% (2007 est.)
C) 8.7% (2009 est.), 9% (2008 est.), 13% (2007 est.)
Unemployment rate:
U) 9.3% (2009 est.)
C) 4.3% (September 2009 est.)
Population below poverty line:
U) 12% (2004 est.)
C) 2.8% (2007)
Investment (gross fixed):
U) 12.5% of GDP (2009 est.)
C) 42.6% of GDP (2009 est.)
Budget:
U) revenues: $1.914 trillion
U) expenditures: $3.615 trillion (2009 est.)
C) revenues: $972.3 billion
C) expenditures: $1.137 trillion (2009 est.)
Public debt:
U) 52.9% of GDP (2009 est.)
C) 18.2% of GDP (2009 est.)
Industrial production growth rate:
U) -5.5% (2009 est.)
C) 8.1% (2009 est.)
Current account balance:
U) $-380.1 billion (2009 est.)
C) $296.2 billion (2009 est.)
Exports:
U) $994.7 billion (2009 est.)
C) $1.194 trillion (2009 est.)
Imports:
U) $1.445 trillion (2009 est.)
C) $921.5 billion (2009 est.)
Debt - external:
U) $13.45 trillion (30 June 2009)
C) $347.1 billion (31 December 2009 est.)
Quite disturbing numbers aren't they?
For instance debt + account and budget balance. But also investment and so on.
Won't resources put a stop to things rather than work-force(needs)?
Energy? I don't know, probably solvable, still limiting.
Food? I have no idea.
Maybe neither is an issue.
If nothing else I assume living of wild resources won't cut it.
The only problem is for those without work since they lose out, I would believe everyone else win because they can get more for less.
What good is say 25% higher "income" for the whole country by manufacturing items locally if you have to spend 3 times more to get them? Everyone still get less.
Just as I'd suspect anyone from another country would prefer their country to be the country of assembly for their next gadget.
Actually no.
Buying anything labeled "Made in Sweden" would most likely be much more expensive than "Made in China."
And regarding economy we shouldn't try to compete with China or the rest of east Asia for low-salary manufacturing of low-tech goods. What good could come from that? "Yeah! Finally we're at Chinas/whatever level!"
We should do things we do best / they don't, at-least as long as they are behind, and spend the money generated buying cheap stuff from them (that way we got more stuff than if it was created here to ..)
Seems like I have to answer by my own account to cancel my moderation, wanted to moderate -1 overrated but my lame mouse doesn't work that well on the surface to it decided that I wanted to moderate it funny instead. And stupid Slashdot user-interface design got no confirm/moderate/ok button.
lol, everything moderated 0, flamebait + 0 troll. ;)
Ohwell, I can handle it
Greater than gcc
Ass-hat claiming random Linux distribution would be all everyone need is still moderated insightful though ;D
Amiga (or more precisely Fairlight?) rules!
... whatever.
It would be soo easy to show him why Amiga is better than Linux anyway.
For instance: ;)
100 reasons why Amiga is better than Linux
You mean like using MS Office 4.3 (on Windows 95 OSR-2) on the 486 laptop
Actually: YES.
Yeah, weird, I wonder how that happened.
Should had gone here:
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1676376&cid=32471152
What I wrote as answer to this post was something like:
"Yeah I can totally see how MorphOS and Ubuntu would be JUST THE SAME!" ...
No idea how that could be messed up, copied text eventually but I can't see why I would had copied a whole post.
MorphOS isn't dead, classic AmigaOS-development would be, depending on how you look at it. Can't really say that's dead either but whatever.
No computer company behind MorphOS. But yeah, Amiga as a professionally ran organization has been dead for tens of years.
They port to the macs because they are PPC and the OS is written for PPC, and because they are cheap since they are old and people haven't got much other purpose for them.
They charge for the OS because it takes time to develop .. Feel free to volunteer all your own working hours.
Is there any Amiga-only software that is worth running today that doesn't depend on the custom hardware in the Amiga, is there any software that does anything useful that hasn't been ported or replicated on another platform?
Probably a lot of things which gets the work done but with none of the bloat of modern software.
System friendly applications will run through JIT emulation, and you also got some native apps.
For the less friendly things you'll have to run complete machine emulation such as UAE.
For instance I assume YAM just work, but through emulation:
http://trac.yam.ch/
OWB would most likely run native:
http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/
http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/screenshots/macmini/mini-MorphOS-OWB-1.8-teaser.mov
Hey, it plays videos from Youtube! More capable than iPad? ...
Here you've got Project X running in E-UAE in MorphOS:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd0zzh_uae-in-ambient_videogames
I think it's up to the developer to decide what they want to do with their software and work. Not much free software for OS X either, lots of very simply stuff and helpful pieces are shareware or regular commercial applications there to.
Sure I find it disturbing and most likely not worth the cost compared to say what a game would cost, on the other hand I do understand that they won't sell as many copies and if they want any money for the product then they have to charge a higher price.
Lots of shareware may have full functionality though, you should pay, but most people won't.
The Ben NanoNote with a native install of AmigaOS (which would had been impossible, but an AmigaOS-like OS would do to) and an IBM Thinkpad styled mouse-knob would had been so cool :D
Now it's just a poor (compared to the screaming monsters people are used to nowadays, still great compared to a 486) Linux machine for creative users, but 366 MHz and 32 MB RAM for something at the level of AmigaOS and AmigaOS applications would be plenty and make for lots of fun, creativity & features.
As a user MorphOS would for sure be just as safe, most likely even faster and easier.
Easier depending on what you are used to though. It's always harder to learn something new than just doing what you know.
... back in the days "because it could be done!" or "because the developer wanted to" was good enough reasons.
Back in the days Linux would had been crap compared to other more mature OSes, and the same thinking wouldn't had helped back then ..
The problem with Amiga is of course that you don't get that many NEW applications. But there exists a lot of applications for the real Amiga and plenty of those would run in MorphOS by JIT emulation. Add MorphOS apps and UAE (which I assume is available to.)
The best reasons would probably be out of nostalgia and pure fun/simplicity.
There is a webkit browser port for MorphOS nowadays I believe, but that's probably the only real area lacking, and you could solve that by running the browser through remote desktop. For almost everything else I assume there is awesome native applications which will not be your usual free-software alternatives but still do the job and do it good.
For instance IRC, IM, e-mail, photo- and video viewers, trackers, music-players and such.
theres no real reason to run Amiga OS for day-to-day work that can't be done with a decent Linux distro.
There's no reason to run Linux instead of Windows, Windows instead of Linux, OS X instead of Windows, Solaris instead of Debian and so on either.
So then I guess there's no purpose for any OS at all, or atleast not for more than one.
All hail MS-DOS.
Ubuntu PPC on a Mac G4 works just the same
What are you talking about?
Do you mean Amiga Forever or any such package with emulators or AROS?
Of course you can still run an Amiga emulator or AROS.
I don't know if you can buy any emulator packet with the kickroms though, if that's what you mean.