I know they tell how the system performs in its default state, but in that case why even bother to compile the benchmarks? Shouldn't you be using whatever versions is available as packages if there is any?
And default versions doesn't matter much, if anyone is serious enough to start compiling all their own applications they sure will be able to switch compiler version, and there may be both advantages and disadvantages with a new or old version so it all depends on what you want. In this case Ubuntu took many scores except in filesystem but also had the latest GCC, what happens if you compile the same GCC on FreeBSD and Solaris, compile the benchmarks and look again?
Also most people into Solaris would probably be willing to go thru some extra trouble to compile their stuff with Suns compiler.
I have no idea but I guess that GCC may have the best support for Linux to? Also there is that "new" BSD licensed compiler, I don't remember the name, I have no idea if it's complete enough to be able to compile said benchmarks and compete with GCC but it would had been interesting with that one to. If nothing else to compare both compilers.
Interesting don't have to mean "useless unless" in this case:D
Yeah, because Solaris and FreeBSD are so stripped and optimized for the purpose by default? =P
I still think it's somewhat useless since they had various versions of the compiler, you can't draw any conclusion about the kernel/OS speed when the compiler varies and you can't draw any conclusions on the compiler when the kernel/OS differ. So...
Put two rowers in whatever boats they happen to have, let them row for a goal, see who wins and decide that person was the best rower? Or which boat was the best one..
I always hate that factor when people do these stupid comparisons, why not use different versions of the benchmarks to? =P, unzip different archives?:D
Various versions of GCC. While one could argue that the compiler is part of the OS it's indeed replaceable so I would had prefered if they had used the same version of GCC and not different for each OS.
It would had been very interesting to see the Solaris results using Sun Studios CC as well (I think it's also available for Linux nowadays?)
Considering how we threat other primates I don't really see the difference. We already threat them like shit so how does one locked up neanderthal make a difference?
Though I'd prefer it if we let them live free then. Would it be possible to teach them our language? "You're all alone, we resurrected you but your race is extinct, have fun."
I asked if they didn't, because I supposed they had ads and crap like that, so running adblock, flashblock and noscript still made perfect sense even if all you was visiting was myspace and yahoo mail, imho.
Maybe it depends on when the water pipes was dug down and the material of them and how often they are checked up and repaired?
I guess if there are lots of tree rots which has broken them and they are filled with algea and shit or maybe even leakage from actual sewage you get that result;/
Over here we have a river passing inside the town, water is taken from it by a 1 meter in diameter pipe before the actual city. By then it probably contains lots of sediments, fertilisers from the farmers and other crap. It's flocked and filtered thru multiple sand baths until it's quite clean and then pumped to three lakes which you're not allowed to bath in. The lakes is located nearby, uhm, stone fells/hommocks/? (collections of stones made by the ice during the last ice age) and is filtered thru all the gravel and mixed up with real ground water.
The water is collected once again, pH is correct and it get disinfected, from one of the locations it also gets air treated for radon removal.
While probably quite clean as soon as it gets picked up I guess things could start growing on the surface of the equipment after months or years of use.
It's probably more to say "if you think you will get busted you're not allowed to start removing things", not "you can't remove anything because some day in a time far far away someone may want to look you up."
No matter what if they care about ads or not the fact that they would only use yahoo mail and myspace don't make a difference from any other webpages. (Unless they accept ads more on webpages which gives them more in return or if they would had been free of ads.)
I tried to remove all the safari crashes from the safari crash results and got 5.840.000 hits!:D
Resultat 1 - 10 av ungefÃr 5,840,000 vid sÃkning efter safari crashes -"safari crashes". (0.15 sekunder)
Resultat 1 - 10 av ungefÃr 14,100 vid sÃkning efter safari crashes -safari -crashes. (0.13 sekunder) Is pretty amazing though:D, guess google round off 0 into 14.100.
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I know they tell how the system performs in its default state, but in that case why even bother to compile the benchmarks? Shouldn't you be using whatever versions is available as packages if there is any?
And default versions doesn't matter much, if anyone is serious enough to start compiling all their own applications they sure will be able to switch compiler version, and there may be both advantages and disadvantages with a new or old version so it all depends on what you want. In this case Ubuntu took many scores except in filesystem but also had the latest GCC, what happens if you compile the same GCC on FreeBSD and Solaris, compile the benchmarks and look again?
Also most people into Solaris would probably be willing to go thru some extra trouble to compile their stuff with Suns compiler.
I have no idea but I guess that GCC may have the best support for Linux to? Also there is that "new" BSD licensed compiler, I don't remember the name, I have no idea if it's complete enough to be able to compile said benchmarks and compete with GCC but it would had been interesting with that one to. If nothing else to compare both compilers.
Interesting don't have to mean "useless unless" in this case :D
Yeah, because Solaris and FreeBSD are so stripped and optimized for the purpose by default? =P
I still think it's somewhat useless since they had various versions of the compiler, you can't draw any conclusion about the kernel/OS speed when the compiler varies and you can't draw any conclusions on the compiler when the kernel/OS differ. So ...
Put two rowers in whatever boats they happen to have, let them row for a goal, see who wins and decide that person was the best rower? Or which boat was the best one ..
I always hate that factor when people do these stupid comparisons, why not use different versions of the benchmarks to? =P, unzip different archives? :D
Is that true even if you install grub/lilo to MBR instead of the bootable partition? Do it need anything from /boot? I doubt that?
Sure the boot loader wil remain, but so what? Also it's quite obvious that you need to update it so ..
It's not like Windows offers a way to easily uninstall it either, or even ask before overwriting it ..
Various versions of GCC. While one could argue that the compiler is part of the OS it's indeed replaceable so I would had prefered if they had used the same version of GCC and not different for each OS.
It would had been very interesting to see the Solaris results using Sun Studios CC as well (I think it's also available for Linux nowadays?)
Liquid water and water vapor isn't the same thing.
If having a bigger brain was the ultimate measure of intelligence, then elephants would be geniuses
How do you know they aren't?
Considering how we threat other primates I don't really see the difference. We already threat them like shit so how does one locked up neanderthal make a difference?
Though I'd prefer it if we let them live free then. Would it be possible to teach them our language? "You're all alone, we resurrected you but your race is extinct, have fun."
That's no problem, the problem is to eat it and still have it.
eat it
I asked if they didn't, because I supposed they had ads and crap like that, so running adblock, flashblock and noscript still made perfect sense even if all you was visiting was myspace and yahoo mail, imho.
Think about that the next time you clean something with recycled paper towels instead :D
Or you can save some in a bucket and clean it up with that?
Ah, I missed that it was Apples standard, I thought it was a legal standard :D / the law.
Yeah, if it's Apples documents for how to handle it it probably means "we don't try to save anything except if we are forced to."
Maybe it depends on when the water pipes was dug down and the material of them and how often they are checked up and repaired?
I guess if there are lots of tree rots which has broken them and they are filled with algea and shit or maybe even leakage from actual sewage you get that result ;/
Over here we have a river passing inside the town, water is taken from it by a 1 meter in diameter pipe before the actual city. By then it probably contains lots of sediments, fertilisers from the farmers and other crap. It's flocked and filtered thru multiple sand baths until it's quite clean and then pumped to three lakes which you're not allowed to bath in. The lakes is located nearby, uhm, stone fells/hommocks/? (collections of stones made by the ice during the last ice age) and is filtered thru all the gravel and mixed up with real ground water.
The water is collected once again, pH is correct and it get disinfected, from one of the locations it also gets air treated for radon removal.
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While probably quite clean as soon as it gets picked up I guess things could start growing on the surface of the equipment after months or years of use.
That's why I only drink beer!
Your post made perfect sense, I'm not just very fond of admitting defeat :D
It's probably more to say "if you think you will get busted you're not allowed to start removing things", not "you can't remove anything because some day in a time far far away someone may want to look you up."
No shit.
No matter what if they care about ads or not the fact that they would only use yahoo mail and myspace don't make a difference from any other webpages. (Unless they accept ads more on webpages which gives them more in return or if they would had been free of ads.)
Which don't have ads and flash crap?
Except google search results isn't reported crash incidents? =P.
I don't post every crash on the interwebz :D
I tried to remove all the safari crashes from the safari crash results and got 5.840.000 hits! :D
Resultat 1 - 10 av ungefÃr 5,840,000 vid sÃkning efter safari crashes -"safari crashes". (0.15 sekunder)
Resultat 1 - 10 av ungefÃr 14,100 vid sÃkning efter safari crashes -safari -crashes. (0.13 sekunder) :D, guess google round off 0 into 14.100.
Is pretty amazing though
Impressive to have so many (crash) hits after being released for such a short time.
Even more impressive how it increased FOUR TIMES that in 1h5m though: http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1038413&cid=25856145
I don't mind using plugins, but even if I did wouldn't Opera be better than chrome? It has built in adblocker.
Though I'd personally prefer to install one as plugin and have the rules work from the beginning than adding them all myself.
I still haven't tested chrome, waiting for OS X version.
As long as it's not Safari I'm happy :D