Heck, look at Rush's 2112 - the first side (yes, that's an LP) was really a 30 minute composition with about 8 movements (songs). Rush's Moving Pictures (1981) second side (yes, another LP) had 3 songs, the shortest of which was 5 minutes. Really some of their best work. Even Cheap Trick, a hugely underrated "pop" band, has several in the 8+ minute timespan.
Going back further, into the 70s, you should check out Iron Butterfly (something like 18 minutes, IIRC), Scorpions (yep, that same band) with many songs in the 7-10 minute time frame, and if I had my LP collection with me, I'm sure I could find many others.
As for the argument that 45s set the length of the song, that's incorrect. 45s can hold significantly more than 4 minutes of music (my 45 collection is also at home or I'd give examples). The reason for the 3 minute soundbite... song is because research showed that was about the optimum for radio. 2 minutes left the consumer wanting more, 4 minutes of pop generally started driving the listener away (you can only listen to the same three notes and 2 line refrain for so long).
Did you miss the fact that they're unsigned, and they're getting enough airplay to make the top 40? Granted, this is in the UK. In the US that would currently be almost impossible because they'd have to pay payola to get airplay.
With something so basic and fundamental, yes, it will be reported on/. It indicates MS completely blew QA on Vista, which isn't surprising since they were going to ship in Jan come hell or high water. Another delay was absolutely not acceptable, as Vista delays have already made them a laughing stock among some, and more importantly was shaking confidence in others.
I think we will see that rushing out an incomplete and untested product is a sure way remove confidence. Evidently MS hasn't learned from their "only use odd-numbered service packs" mantra that used to exist among many of us. Why was that? Because the odd numbered SPs fixed the issues of the even numbered SPs, including the initial release.
It may kill the high-end Video iPod sales, but until final specs are out, it's premature to say even that. Will it cannibalize some sales? Sure. But would you rather cannibalize your sales, or have someone else steal them?
Heck, I'd be happy if I could access a network resource without the shell coming to a halt in XP. People are always talking trash about anything other than their "wonderful" windows box. I can keep one running for lengthy periods of time (6 months is a personal record) but XP is inherently bad. I actually hope OSX/Linux/Google make a dent in the market. As soon as they do, at least something good might finally arise (yeah, OSX is cool and all, but it's still lacking in some niceties.)
Yes, you too can enjoy near flawless performance from XP. The secret is to disable almost everything, shut down all but 4 services, and not install any MS software, nor any third party software that's "integrated" with MS OSes. It also removes most worm vectors, and eliminates a lot of virus vectors.
BTW, the number 1 service to disable? Windows Update. Unless you're experiencing a problem, there's no need to update. If you're not running a service, you're not vulnerable. Just a thought.
Ok, with that out of the way:), I'll predict that AMD Opteron systems will include support for larger than 64GB memory first. With up to 64 CPU cores conceivable on their currently supported 8-way systems with the soon to be released Barcelona cores. 1GB of real RAM per core just is way too little.
Yes, we all know about the per process concept. It doesn't help you a lick if you're running a 20GB DB model that needs to be in-memory to get anything useful done.
Thanks for the reference. I think most cheaper sub systems for PCs have that "turn the sub down, there's more to the sound than the below 100 Hz range."
I was running with a minimum of 64MB, and it flew. Loved that system and ran it for years.
So you're saying the Warp 4 release will run with up to 3GB? Interesting. I'm running on a MacBook Pro right now, and for giggles sake was thinking about installing a Parallels OS/2 instance as Parallels states it supports OS/2.
Let me correct that for you: Win2K and XP have a 2GB cap. Enterprise/DW server have a 3GB cap. Not a single Windows system has a 4GB cap. (while Data Warehouse Server can handle 4GB, 1GB is system RAM only, leaving a measely 3GB for applications as a max) These numbers held for the 2K and 2003 servers both.
OS/2 ran in VMs, hence the issues with the Win32s and Office95. THe VMs were restricted to 512MB. Office95 asked for mem at the 2GB mark upon startup, at a time when most systems had less than 256MB. Why? Because it would break OS/2 support.
D/SOM was awesome technology. Enabled more functionality than was supplied by DCOM years later, and did so reliably. It's 2007 and D/COM still doesn't work right.
Seriously, OS/2 may not have been flawless, but it performed for the user just fine. There were many things about it from a user perspective that were far better than even XP or OSX have managed to come up with.
Truer words are hard to speak (or write). What I like is definitely based on my own taste, and that's authoritative. The problm with expanding your horizons, however, is to know how to expand them. Of late, this has started to become problematic with the homogenizing of the airwaves and the music industry. And they wonder why sales are plummeting, have "they" signed acts like Futon, Kasabian, or any of the multitudes of others that are making decent music out there?
But that brings up the issue right there. Kasabian was introduced by a friend, Futon happened to be a 1 week clip on a off-beat music channel I happen to get. (FYI: if you like Iggy Pop style tunes, at least the one Futon song I have is Iggy as he might have been if he was 20 today - and that doesn't mean it's old-style either;)
I'm not a big fan of pure electronic music. I'm more "punk" as that label applied in the 70s, or true alternative before Nirvana converted the masses. Post Modern comes to mind, or New Wave as well. All have applied to the main genre I like, which are usually artists performing on their own before the industry gets its clutches into them.
I'm still a fan of NIN. Not all his work, but on the whole he delivers a decent compilation with each album, even if you need to be in the right mind set to listen to The Fragile.
Oh, and in response to some poster's comment: I happen to like Lou Bega, and I actually own his Mambo #5 CD. Yep - that's an eclectic mix, and you certainly don't normally want to have NIN's Wish followed by Lou's Mambo Mambo, but there are times that things just work.
Give me a break, I'm sure you think you have all the answers to world hunger and peace to boot.
Those artists originally were anything but mainstream. Hell, Metallica couldn't even get signed by a major label until the late 80s or early 90s.
The problem these days is there is no authoritative source of information for "good" music. There used to be these guys called DJs that would play what they wanted for a couple of hours during the late night, or their own special shows. Times that are now rudderless nationwide piped crap.
If you're not into the college scene, it makes it almost impossible to track down the local decent music, much less what's good on the west or east coast. The RIAA et al (ClearChannel, Infinity, etc) have almost succeded in killing the industry in an attempt to wring every last cent out of it.
Oh, and btw, 90% of indie bands suck rocks. It's always been that way - more pretenders and wanna-bes than people with even a modicum of talent. One of the biggest scourges to new music has been the large drain of ectasy freaking youngsters to electronic/techno crap. Basically loop 3 or 4 rhytms together and they're happy. Not music in my book.
Well, I personally own a set of Altec Lansing speakers, and they require analog outs. I'm not about to drop another $100 plus on speakers, and I'm sure I"m not the only one. I also happen to have a couple of Audigy 2s available that I picked up cheap, which is just fine.
If the speaker folks would make a decent and decently priced SPDIF speaker set, I'd be happy to buy them and dump the audigy entirely. Creative's driver install sucks rocks, and the driver's not exactly "great" either.
As for OpenAL, perhaps this is what's needed to push it to modernize. It'd be nice to have an open API as the default for sound.
Personally, I liked BladeRunner and Gattaca. I'm sure there's more, but I haven't had a lot of free time for movie watching. And anyone that thinks "A Boy and His Dog" was anything but a "it's so bad it's good" movie needs their head examined. (Although I really liked the ending) And for the person that mentioned Minority Report, wow did that movie suck story-wise and delve into fantasy. The story almost destroyed the barely enjoyable parts of the movie.
The original Twilight Zone and Outer Limits shows were pretty decent as well, although not strictly sci-fi.
Surprise surprise. a brand spanking new architecture on a smaller process beats 4 year old tech on a 3 year old process. I want to see Barcelona tested against Core 2.
Core 2 had damn well better be a large step up from A64. It's too bad that it's really limited to 2 physical CPUs at the moment. AMD still pwns the medium and large scale server market.
Yes, I own an AMD X2 3800+ that I recently bought and put together for a whole $200 out of pocket. C2 would have forced me to spend over $600 at that time. (I had RAM for the X2, C2 would have also required a RAM purchase) The X2 handles what I need just fine, and I can't argue with the results.
I also own a C2 laptop. It's great and I use it more than my desktop.
The worst part about this type of "manager" is that they usually think they're the bees knees of technological savants, when they were really "promoted" to make room for someone who could actually get something done.
Heck, look at Rush's 2112 - the first side (yes, that's an LP) was really a 30 minute composition with about 8 movements (songs). Rush's Moving Pictures (1981) second side (yes, another LP) had 3 songs, the shortest of which was 5 minutes. Really some of their best work. Even Cheap Trick, a hugely underrated "pop" band, has several in the 8+ minute timespan.
Going back further, into the 70s, you should check out Iron Butterfly (something like 18 minutes, IIRC), Scorpions (yep, that same band) with many songs in the 7-10 minute time frame, and if I had my LP collection with me, I'm sure I could find many others.
As for the argument that 45s set the length of the song, that's incorrect. 45s can hold significantly more than 4 minutes of music (my 45 collection is also at home or I'd give examples). The reason for the 3 minute soundbite... song is because research showed that was about the optimum for radio. 2 minutes left the consumer wanting more, 4 minutes of pop generally started driving the listener away (you can only listen to the same three notes and 2 line refrain for so long).
Egads!!! 15 minutes of crap! Like the 3 minute version wasn't already painful enough.
Did you miss the fact that they're unsigned, and they're getting enough airplay to make the top 40? Granted, this is in the UK. In the US that would currently be almost impossible because they'd have to pay payola to get airplay.
NIN: Starfuckers
With something so basic and fundamental, yes, it will be reported on /. It indicates MS completely blew QA on Vista, which isn't surprising since they were going to ship in Jan come hell or high water. Another delay was absolutely not acceptable, as Vista delays have already made them a laughing stock among some, and more importantly was shaking confidence in others.
I think we will see that rushing out an incomplete and untested product is a sure way remove confidence. Evidently MS hasn't learned from their "only use odd-numbered service packs" mantra that used to exist among many of us. Why was that? Because the odd numbered SPs fixed the issues of the even numbered SPs, including the initial release.
MTV2 or VH-1? SSDC. Any others you'd care to name?
It may kill the high-end Video iPod sales, but until final specs are out, it's premature to say even that. Will it cannibalize some sales? Sure. But would you rather cannibalize your sales, or have someone else steal them?
I know which way I'd want that cash to flow....
Heck, I'd be happy if I could access a network resource without the shell coming to a halt in XP. People are always talking trash about anything other than their "wonderful" windows box. I can keep one running for lengthy periods of time (6 months is a personal record) but XP is inherently bad. I actually hope OSX/Linux /Google make a dent in the market. As soon as they do, at least something good might finally arise (yeah, OSX is cool and all, but it's still lacking in some niceties.)
Yes, you too can enjoy near flawless performance from XP. The secret is to disable almost everything, shut down all but 4 services, and not install any MS software, nor any third party software that's "integrated" with MS OSes. It also removes most worm vectors, and eliminates a lot of virus vectors.
BTW, the number 1 service to disable? Windows Update. Unless you're experiencing a problem, there's no need to update. If you're not running a service, you're not vulnerable. Just a thought.
that would in XP, right? I haven't seen a floppy on OSX :)
64GB should be enough for anyone....
:), I'll predict that AMD Opteron systems will include support for larger than 64GB memory first. With up to 64 CPU cores conceivable on their currently supported 8-way systems with the soon to be released Barcelona cores. 1GB of real RAM per core just is way too little.
Ok, with that out of the way
Yes, we all know about the per process concept. It doesn't help you a lick if you're running a 20GB DB model that needs to be in-memory to get anything useful done.
Thanks for the reference. I think most cheaper sub systems for PCs have that "turn the sub down, there's more to the sound than the below 100 Hz range."
I'll take a look
I was running with a minimum of 64MB, and it flew. Loved that system and ran it for years.
So you're saying the Warp 4 release will run with up to 3GB? Interesting. I'm running on a MacBook Pro right now, and for giggles sake was thinking about installing a Parallels OS/2 instance as Parallels states it supports OS/2.
Let me correct that for you: Win2K and XP have a 2GB cap. Enterprise/DW server have a 3GB cap. Not a single Windows system has a 4GB cap. (while Data Warehouse Server can handle 4GB, 1GB is system RAM only, leaving a measely 3GB for applications as a max) These numbers held for the 2K and 2003 servers both.
The funny part is I remember this being attributed to him back before 86, when I cared about such things. ;)
OS/2 ran in VMs, hence the issues with the Win32s and Office95. THe VMs were restricted to 512MB. Office95 asked for mem at the 2GB mark upon startup, at a time when most systems had less than 256MB. Why? Because it would break OS/2 support.
D/SOM was awesome technology. Enabled more functionality than was supplied by DCOM years later, and did so reliably. It's 2007 and D/COM still doesn't work right.
Have you worked on Windows drivers?
Seriously, OS/2 may not have been flawless, but it performed for the user just fine. There were many things about it from a user perspective that were far better than even XP or OSX have managed to come up with.
Truer words are hard to speak (or write). What I like is definitely based on my own taste, and that's authoritative. The problm with expanding your horizons, however, is to know how to expand them. Of late, this has started to become problematic with the homogenizing of the airwaves and the music industry. And they wonder why sales are plummeting, have "they" signed acts like Futon, Kasabian, or any of the multitudes of others that are making decent music out there?
But that brings up the issue right there. Kasabian was introduced by a friend, Futon happened to be a 1 week clip on a off-beat music channel I happen to get. (FYI: if you like Iggy Pop style tunes, at least the one Futon song I have is Iggy as he might have been if he was 20 today - and that doesn't mean it's old-style either;)
I'm not a big fan of pure electronic music. I'm more "punk" as that label applied in the 70s, or true alternative before Nirvana converted the masses. Post Modern comes to mind, or New Wave as well. All have applied to the main genre I like, which are usually artists performing on their own before the industry gets its clutches into them.
I'm still a fan of NIN. Not all his work, but on the whole he delivers a decent compilation with each album, even if you need to be in the right mind set to listen to The Fragile.
Oh, and in response to some poster's comment: I happen to like Lou Bega, and I actually own his Mambo #5 CD. Yep - that's an eclectic mix, and you certainly don't normally want to have NIN's Wish followed by Lou's Mambo Mambo, but there are times that things just work.
Leeches get satiated and drop off.
Give me a break, I'm sure you think you have all the answers to world hunger and peace to boot.
Those artists originally were anything but mainstream. Hell, Metallica couldn't even get signed by a major label until the late 80s or early 90s.
The problem these days is there is no authoritative source of information for "good" music. There used to be these guys called DJs that would play what they wanted for a couple of hours during the late night, or their own special shows. Times that are now rudderless nationwide piped crap.
If you're not into the college scene, it makes it almost impossible to track down the local decent music, much less what's good on the west or east coast. The RIAA et al (ClearChannel, Infinity, etc) have almost succeded in killing the industry in an attempt to wring every last cent out of it.
Oh, and btw, 90% of indie bands suck rocks. It's always been that way - more pretenders and wanna-bes than people with even a modicum of talent. One of the biggest scourges to new music has been the large drain of ectasy freaking youngsters to electronic/techno crap. Basically loop 3 or 4 rhytms together and they're happy. Not music in my book.
Well, I personally own a set of Altec Lansing speakers, and they require analog outs. I'm not about to drop another $100 plus on speakers, and I'm sure I"m not the only one. I also happen to have a couple of Audigy 2s available that I picked up cheap, which is just fine.
If the speaker folks would make a decent and decently priced SPDIF speaker set, I'd be happy to buy them and dump the audigy entirely. Creative's driver install sucks rocks, and the driver's not exactly "great" either.
As for OpenAL, perhaps this is what's needed to push it to modernize. It'd be nice to have an open API as the default for sound.
Personally, I liked BladeRunner and Gattaca. I'm sure there's more, but I haven't had a lot of free time for movie watching. And anyone that thinks "A Boy and His Dog" was anything but a "it's so bad it's good" movie needs their head examined. (Although I really liked the ending) And for the person that mentioned Minority Report, wow did that movie suck story-wise and delve into fantasy. The story almost destroyed the barely enjoyable parts of the movie.
The original Twilight Zone and Outer Limits shows were pretty decent as well, although not strictly sci-fi.
Surprise surprise. a brand spanking new architecture on a smaller process beats 4 year old tech on a 3 year old process. I want to see Barcelona tested against Core 2.
Core 2 had damn well better be a large step up from A64. It's too bad that it's really limited to 2 physical CPUs at the moment. AMD still pwns the medium and large scale server market.
Yes, I own an AMD X2 3800+ that I recently bought and put together for a whole $200 out of pocket. C2 would have forced me to spend over $600 at that time. (I had RAM for the X2, C2 would have also required a RAM purchase) The X2 handles what I need just fine, and I can't argue with the results.
I also own a C2 laptop. It's great and I use it more than my desktop.
Many people already pointed towards Erlang. Note that this is a C++ library we're talking about so my comments are spot on.
The worst part about this type of "manager" is that they usually think they're the bees knees of technological savants, when they were really "promoted" to make room for someone who could actually get something done.