It's that you implied it, whereas I limited my statement to the 99%.
I'm sorry, but if you're hitting a paging wall at 16GB for 99%
IOW, for the special cornflakes amongst us yes, I freely admit larger systems are necessary. The statement I responded to that for most things you don't need that much still stands, at least if you're not in the world of MS where even web page developers should have multi-TB RAM systems (btw, before you take that seriously, it's hyperbole merely indicating that MS systems are notoriously inefficient utilizing resources)
Interesting - I have yet to have my dev needs go over 16GB footprint, and that's developing more along phayes below described setup. I'll also state that windows is supremely unoptimized and apparently can't run by itself in 16GB efficiently, much less allow for any development work. 64GB might be a perfectly acceptable footprint for a windows development system. And yes, I'm slightly exaggerating there, but only slightly. There's a reason the majority of the business world runs on *nix.
I think you'll admit that does not fall into 99% of developer's needs and is only workable for very specific series of tests. In general, you would not attempt to run everything in a single system even for modeling.
This is another reason she lost. People like you tried to make this a sexism thing. It wasn't. It was that she was unlikable and stunk of corruption.
I'll agree she was unlikeable, even to the point of being unelectable against any "normal" candidate. Corruption? Lots of hints, no substance, no matter the spitting red faced likes of Hannity and company proclaiming otherwise.
All I could think about when seeing her was "man, the teflon don could have taken lessons from her". Seriously, how did she never land in prison?
I suppose she never landed in prison because, surprisingly, she never actually did anything provably illegal. Much like pretty much everyone but ardent Trump and Moore supporters believe both are likely guilty of sexual assault (perhaps even a subset of their supporters) but we can't prove it. Much like we can't prove Franken groped anyone. Hint - look at the picture - you can see shadows under all fingers, which makes sense as it's a posed picture. That doesn't detract from the claim made that she was uncomfortable because of the picture, but he didn't actually grope her. And here's another question: other than her, who actually had a copy of that picture prior to her releasing it? I could go on and on about that one, but we'll leave it at that. Then there's Bush 43, who has admitted only potentially touching women, but given the number and actions and timespan, I'd far more believe the women than the spokesman's explanation.
running Windows in a VM for certain corporate software while doing others things in the main OS.
Get a real job, ya fucking hippie, and you might find you need more than your 8GB of gamer RAM.
Yes, to what iggymanz said.
I'm semi-retired and I do almost everything in VMs at home.
Setting up a simulation of the corporate environment for something as simple as testing scripts requires running multiple VM's simultaneously.
And I need a lot of ram to run these without hitting the paging wall. 16GB just isn't enough anymore.
And yet I seem to run just fine (admittedly in 24GB) with generally a sub 16GB footprint, and I run multiple VMs and IDEs, along with server instances and a whole slew of test frameworks, etc. I'm sorry, but if you're hitting a paging wall at 16GB for 99% of what's needed as even a developer's machine, you're doing it wrong, or you should stop using Chrome and leaving 100+ web pages open.
there's a host of other interesting choices they made under the guise of idiot usability.
Well, you know why I don't.
I do spend about 15-20 min when I get a phone to set it up the way I want. With iOS 11 that has unfortunately not been 100% possible (I'd love to turn off those stupid control animations across the board - I want to get to where I need to be, not wait on a damn key highlight animation)
I recognize that Android isn't a whole hell of a lot better, but if I have to choose between an insecure system that appears to work the way I want it to (Android) and an insecure system that tries to alter my behavior (iOS), I'm choosing the one that at least pretends to do what I want.
Among my many issues with Android, besides being insecure, is it's utter lack of consistency across versions, devices and vendors. This isn't merely a statement about a minor GUI thing, but more along the lines of being inconsistent the way Microsoft was between Win7->Win8->Win10. Each one varied and changed things underneath, and not for the better. I feel Android is like that, but cubed in its impact. iOS is better, but not enough to say it's "better" outright. There are things they've done under the covers that are absolutely ridiculous but most people never notice. After all, it's more stable in general than Android, even through Marshmallow. But Android is getting better. Slowly.
Android does have the concept of multiple users, and has for a couple major versions at least (I don't recall when I first saw it -- and I've never used it beyond testing it once to see how it functioned) but it really wouldn't help in this instance, anyway. Each user has their own set of accounts and their own storage, so I couldn't ask my wife to, for example, sign in to my phone with her PIN or passcode and check my gmail, as my gmail would be assigned to my user; she'd still need my PIN or passcode for that.
Note I said "no functional multi-user support". I am aware Android has the base concept of multi-user built in, but IIRC that only "works" for a small subset of devices, mostly tablets, again, IIRC.
IMO, that make the feature nearly useless (thus why most people don't even seem to know it exists) on a phone, as very few people share a single smartphone, and those who do probably also share accounts. The only legitimate use case I see for this is a half-assed implementation of Kid Mode, and we already have Kid Mode, so... why implement this the way it was implemented?
Exactly my point regarding the implementation - it basically required me to code all aspects of multi-user into the apps I support, all the way down to basic permissions. It also requires the devices to be configured in a certain way. Managing it is now easy, but it was painful to get here.
At least Android gives me that option, though. Where's Apple's implementation? I expect someone to posit that they don't have one because they havne't figured out how to do it right and I expect to agree with whoever says that, if only because I don't believe there is a "right" way to implement multiple user accounts on a phone.
Apple's "implementation" is even more painful - you can do a multi-user configuration via 100% manual configuration starting with logging yourself out of icloud etc and logging in a second user. To say it is onerous is like saying all you need to be president is a little money an half an opinion.
A guest PIN/passcode which allows restricted access to only a subset of apps, features, data, and settings would be ideal on both platforms. Let's wait and see who implements it first. My bet? Neither of them, it would simply be too useful (and cut down on purchases made by kids who no longer have mommy's passcode).
I agree with you that that would be perfect - it's akin to the admin/user/guest concepts, with ever lower permissions and access. What kills me is that Apple allows you to respond to a text on the lock screen. No security needed. By default. And there's a host of other interesting choices they made under the guise of idiot usability.
My wife asks me to do things on her phone all the time while she's driving, so she can keep her eyes on the road. I know her passcode so I can do these things, and FaceID tries to scan every time the screen is turned on. That means, intentional or not, if she had an iPhone X with FaceID enabled, I'd be training it to recognize my face every single time I unlocked it using the passcode. Eventually, we'd both be able to unlock it.
One of the problems with the iphone (and Android too) is that it assumes only 1 person will ever unlock it. That can be proven false by merely looking at just about any married couple. You stand as 1 example, I'm a second, and I'm sure there are many many others. In addition, I happen to have an app that allows for multiple users on a single device. The hoops you have to jump through to make that happen are not minor, because the entire phone premise runs along the same lines as DOS/Windows/OS2 (Windows pre NT) There just is no functional multi-user support in phones.
Health care costs have gone up, they're on average 640K per capita over a lifetime, with 50% of the costs incurred in the last 6 months of life (according to the US gov's 2012 Personal Health costs) Note that half of that doesn't count for employers, that's under medicare/medicaid generally. I don't have numbers for 1970 for analytical comparison, but more is done today then back then. Open heart surgeries, for example, are disproportionality performed on older individuals and are relatively expensive compared to all other commonly performed surgeries.
"consider themselves non-religious" sounds like Atheist. 2/3s of America are "cultural Christians". They'll respond "Christian" on any survey, because they learned that's the right answer, but very few go to church weekly for more than social reasons. (Heck, in a lot of communities, your choices for a dating scene are bars or church, sadly enough.)
When I talk about non-religious, I'm talking about people that don't believe and don't go to a church, not the sunday christians, or the meek attenders (those that go because their neighbors do) I don't and haven't lived in anything approaching a mono-religious community ever, so the question of meeting people in church has always been moot since none of the neighbors were members of the same church, if they went to church at all.
Honestly, I don't know anyone personally that would say they're an atheist when asked, but they would more than likely say they don't believe, probably because "atheist" means something more to them than its mere literal meaning. And why do they need a classification anyways? The question is as irrelevant to them as would be questioning them if they followed Keynes or Stockholm.
Well, that's true, for kid stuff etc. But for things I'd buy, that actually cost significant money, like TVs, computers, or components like monitors, SSDs, etc. In those, there no longer are deals like there used to be. 10-15 years ago, top end hard drives or monitors went on 25% or more sales to get people in the door. Those were worthwhile. Now, the things I'd buy are generally never offered on sale on BF, while they may be on sale at other times, especially during new model releases or end of year inventory times.
It would depend if they were in rural or urban areas.
You do realize that in 1600 there were darn few "urban" areas where today's people would be able to communicate? Better to be somewhat rural and not be used as the sacrifice du jour to please the god of sun/war/pestilence (because what is this strange creature afflicted with that makes their skin so odd-colored)
It was the Age of the Casserole, because the food industry was spending huge bucks in training people to dump cans of cream of mushroom soup into "chicken a la king"....How does combining canned fruit cocktail, mayonnaise, and mini-marshmallows sound to you?
Thanks for 2 memories I had buried deep deep deep in unplumbed depths never to see light of day again, with reason.
Sadly, that's no longer true. It used to be, but now they just bottom dollar some cheap door buster piece of crap that looks like a good deal, but really isn't. Just because you can buy a new Yugo for $2K instead of $10K for a new econobox, doesn't make the Yugo a good deal.
Then you don't know the same jews I do. There's several that celebrate a secular christmas, both in mixed marriages and not. I think it has a lot to do with where you live and how cloistered your particular society and exposure is. While christians bemoan the commercialization of "their" holiday, they don't realize that they usurped pagan holidays to begin with, and that many of today's secular activities actually mirror some of those pagan traditions. I also find it odd that Christians believe they have a solid date (Dec 25) for the birth of Jesus, but the date of his death depends upon the lunar cycle.
This is what a lot of people don't get - wants are generally not needs. You don't need a new car. You don't need to move to the most expensive house/neighborhood you can barely not afford. You might want to live in that neighborhood, you might even be able to afford it, but maybe it'd be better to put all that money in some sort of investment for retirement or a needy day instead. You do that often enough for long enough, and wow, you are well-off, but you're still living in the same place with the same vehicle and the same lifestyle you had years ago.
At some point, you can decide you want to treat yourself to a little something, a new TV, replace a car, maybe go on a nice little vacation. And you can do so and not go in debt. It is a nice feeling living beneath your means and seeing that retirement may actually be possible on your own terms.
The internet has destroyed this model of billing completely. Until the internet itself is destroyed by regional segmentation and firewalling, there is no mechanism for enforcing even international per minute billing. I can "call" someone anywhere in the world that has a reasonable 1Mbps internet connection, and it's free.
EA sets up a multiplayer scenario where they can micro-transact you to death for faster progression or "wins" against opponents. (I've not played an EA game in a while, so some of this comes only from commentary and EAs advertising) They do release sequels, and some of those garner quite a bit in sales. You don't get sales without improving some aspect of the game, and merely improving graphics resolution or sound isn't going to cut it for most. Now physics and AI both improve gameplay, or can, depending on the game, but you're statement equates those 2 as no more impactful than sound/graphics. In fact, AI, or rather the computer controlled player algorithm, may be the single most determining piece of whether a game can be fun or not. I present Civilization as a prime example of where the AI alone made each release better for the first 4 iterations. Graphics also made significant improvements in gameplay in each release even if distracting elements accompanied those improvements, especially looking back today.
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You’re reading your own environmental bias in attempting to see implications where there are none.
Perhaps there are implications and you're just not seeing them?
IOW, for the special cornflakes amongst us yes, I freely admit larger systems are necessary. The statement I responded to that for most things you don't need that much still stands, at least if you're not in the world of MS where even web page developers should have multi-TB RAM systems (btw, before you take that seriously, it's hyperbole merely indicating that MS systems are notoriously inefficient utilizing resources)
Yes it is. Thanks for posting.
Interesting - I have yet to have my dev needs go over 16GB footprint, and that's developing more along phayes below described setup. I'll also state that windows is supremely unoptimized and apparently can't run by itself in 16GB efficiently, much less allow for any development work. 64GB might be a perfectly acceptable footprint for a windows development system. And yes, I'm slightly exaggerating there, but only slightly. There's a reason the majority of the business world runs on *nix.
I think you'll admit that does not fall into 99% of developer's needs and is only workable for very specific series of tests. In general, you would not attempt to run everything in a single system even for modeling.
This is another reason she lost. People like you tried to make this a sexism thing. It wasn't. It was that she was unlikable and stunk of corruption.
I'll agree she was unlikeable, even to the point of being unelectable against any "normal" candidate. Corruption? Lots of hints, no substance, no matter the spitting red faced likes of Hannity and company proclaiming otherwise.
All I could think about when seeing her was "man, the teflon don could have taken lessons from her". Seriously, how did she never land in prison?
I suppose she never landed in prison because, surprisingly, she never actually did anything provably illegal. Much like pretty much everyone but ardent Trump and Moore supporters believe both are likely guilty of sexual assault (perhaps even a subset of their supporters) but we can't prove it. Much like we can't prove Franken groped anyone. Hint - look at the picture - you can see shadows under all fingers, which makes sense as it's a posed picture. That doesn't detract from the claim made that she was uncomfortable because of the picture, but he didn't actually grope her. And here's another question: other than her, who actually had a copy of that picture prior to her releasing it? I could go on and on about that one, but we'll leave it at that. Then there's Bush 43, who has admitted only potentially touching women, but given the number and actions and timespan, I'd far more believe the women than the spokesman's explanation.
That's still not LPDDR. There's a difference.
running Windows in a VM for certain corporate software while doing others things in the main OS.
Get a real job, ya fucking hippie, and you might find you need more than your 8GB of gamer RAM.
Yes, to what iggymanz said. I'm semi-retired and I do almost everything in VMs at home. Setting up a simulation of the corporate environment for something as simple as testing scripts requires running multiple VM's simultaneously. And I need a lot of ram to run these without hitting the paging wall. 16GB just isn't enough anymore.
And yet I seem to run just fine (admittedly in 24GB) with generally a sub 16GB footprint, and I run multiple VMs and IDEs, along with server instances and a whole slew of test frameworks, etc. I'm sorry, but if you're hitting a paging wall at 16GB for 99% of what's needed as even a developer's machine, you're doing it wrong, or you should stop using Chrome and leaving 100+ web pages open.
I really want to like iOS, but...
there's a host of other interesting choices they made under the guise of idiot usability.
Well, you know why I don't.
I do spend about 15-20 min when I get a phone to set it up the way I want. With iOS 11 that has unfortunately not been 100% possible (I'd love to turn off those stupid control animations across the board - I want to get to where I need to be, not wait on a damn key highlight animation)
I recognize that Android isn't a whole hell of a lot better, but if I have to choose between an insecure system that appears to work the way I want it to (Android) and an insecure system that tries to alter my behavior (iOS), I'm choosing the one that at least pretends to do what I want.
Among my many issues with Android, besides being insecure, is it's utter lack of consistency across versions, devices and vendors. This isn't merely a statement about a minor GUI thing, but more along the lines of being inconsistent the way Microsoft was between Win7->Win8->Win10. Each one varied and changed things underneath, and not for the better. I feel Android is like that, but cubed in its impact. iOS is better, but not enough to say it's "better" outright. There are things they've done under the covers that are absolutely ridiculous but most people never notice. After all, it's more stable in general than Android, even through Marshmallow. But Android is getting better. Slowly.
Android does have the concept of multiple users, and has for a couple major versions at least (I don't recall when I first saw it -- and I've never used it beyond testing it once to see how it functioned) but it really wouldn't help in this instance, anyway. Each user has their own set of accounts and their own storage, so I couldn't ask my wife to, for example, sign in to my phone with her PIN or passcode and check my gmail, as my gmail would be assigned to my user; she'd still need my PIN or passcode for that.
Note I said "no functional multi-user support". I am aware Android has the base concept of multi-user built in, but IIRC that only "works" for a small subset of devices, mostly tablets, again, IIRC.
IMO, that make the feature nearly useless (thus why most people don't even seem to know it exists) on a phone, as very few people share a single smartphone, and those who do probably also share accounts. The only legitimate use case I see for this is a half-assed implementation of Kid Mode, and we already have Kid Mode, so... why implement this the way it was implemented?
Exactly my point regarding the implementation - it basically required me to code all aspects of multi-user into the apps I support, all the way down to basic permissions. It also requires the devices to be configured in a certain way. Managing it is now easy, but it was painful to get here.
At least Android gives me that option, though. Where's Apple's implementation? I expect someone to posit that they don't have one because they havne't figured out how to do it right and I expect to agree with whoever says that, if only because I don't believe there is a "right" way to implement multiple user accounts on a phone.
Apple's "implementation" is even more painful - you can do a multi-user configuration via 100% manual configuration starting with logging yourself out of icloud etc and logging in a second user. To say it is onerous is like saying all you need to be president is a little money an half an opinion.
A guest PIN/passcode which allows restricted access to only a subset of apps, features, data, and settings would be ideal on both platforms. Let's wait and see who implements it first. My bet? Neither of them, it would simply be too useful (and cut down on purchases made by kids who no longer have mommy's passcode).
I agree with you that that would be perfect - it's akin to the admin/user/guest concepts, with ever lower permissions and access. What kills me is that Apple allows you to respond to a text on the lock screen. No security needed. By default. And there's a host of other interesting choices they made under the guise of idiot usability.
My wife asks me to do things on her phone all the time while she's driving, so she can keep her eyes on the road. I know her passcode so I can do these things, and FaceID tries to scan every time the screen is turned on. That means, intentional or not, if she had an iPhone X with FaceID enabled, I'd be training it to recognize my face every single time I unlocked it using the passcode. Eventually, we'd both be able to unlock it.
One of the problems with the iphone (and Android too) is that it assumes only 1 person will ever unlock it. That can be proven false by merely looking at just about any married couple. You stand as 1 example, I'm a second, and I'm sure there are many many others. In addition, I happen to have an app that allows for multiple users on a single device. The hoops you have to jump through to make that happen are not minor, because the entire phone premise runs along the same lines as DOS/Windows/OS2 (Windows pre NT) There just is no functional multi-user support in phones.
Health care costs have gone up, they're on average 640K per capita over a lifetime, with 50% of the costs incurred in the last 6 months of life (according to the US gov's 2012 Personal Health costs) Note that half of that doesn't count for employers, that's under medicare/medicaid generally. I don't have numbers for 1970 for analytical comparison, but more is done today then back then. Open heart surgeries, for example, are disproportionality performed on older individuals and are relatively expensive compared to all other commonly performed surgeries.
US units are confusing you.
It's not US units that are confusing anyone,
I don't know about that - try using ounces. Is that weight or volume?
"consider themselves non-religious" sounds like Atheist. 2/3s of America are "cultural Christians". They'll respond "Christian" on any survey, because they learned that's the right answer, but very few go to church weekly for more than social reasons. (Heck, in a lot of communities, your choices for a dating scene are bars or church, sadly enough.)
When I talk about non-religious, I'm talking about people that don't believe and don't go to a church, not the sunday christians, or the meek attenders (those that go because their neighbors do) I don't and haven't lived in anything approaching a mono-religious community ever, so the question of meeting people in church has always been moot since none of the neighbors were members of the same church, if they went to church at all.
Honestly, I don't know anyone personally that would say they're an atheist when asked, but they would more than likely say they don't believe, probably because "atheist" means something more to them than its mere literal meaning. And why do they need a classification anyways? The question is as irrelevant to them as would be questioning them if they followed Keynes or Stockholm.
Well, that's true, for kid stuff etc. But for things I'd buy, that actually cost significant money, like TVs, computers, or components like monitors, SSDs, etc. In those, there no longer are deals like there used to be. 10-15 years ago, top end hard drives or monitors went on 25% or more sales to get people in the door. Those were worthwhile. Now, the things I'd buy are generally never offered on sale on BF, while they may be on sale at other times, especially during new model releases or end of year inventory times.
It would depend if they were in rural or urban areas.
You do realize that in 1600 there were darn few "urban" areas where today's people would be able to communicate? Better to be somewhat rural and not be used as the sacrifice du jour to please the god of sun/war/pestilence (because what is this strange creature afflicted with that makes their skin so odd-colored)
It was the Age of the Casserole, because the food industry was spending huge bucks in training people to dump cans of cream of mushroom soup into "chicken a la king"....How does combining canned fruit cocktail, mayonnaise, and mini-marshmallows sound to you?
Thanks for 2 memories I had buried deep deep deep in unplumbed depths never to see light of day again, with reason.
I bought mine a few years ago. Top-end plasma, best price was in Sept IIRC.
Sadly, that's no longer true. It used to be, but now they just bottom dollar some cheap door buster piece of crap that looks like a good deal, but really isn't. Just because you can buy a new Yugo for $2K instead of $10K for a new econobox, doesn't make the Yugo a good deal.
supposedly somewhere between 20-25% consider themselves non-religious. (Too lazy to look up the reference)
Then you don't know the same jews I do. There's several that celebrate a secular christmas, both in mixed marriages and not. I think it has a lot to do with where you live and how cloistered your particular society and exposure is. While christians bemoan the commercialization of "their" holiday, they don't realize that they usurped pagan holidays to begin with, and that many of today's secular activities actually mirror some of those pagan traditions. I also find it odd that Christians believe they have a solid date (Dec 25) for the birth of Jesus, but the date of his death depends upon the lunar cycle.
This is what a lot of people don't get - wants are generally not needs. You don't need a new car. You don't need to move to the most expensive house/neighborhood you can barely not afford. You might want to live in that neighborhood, you might even be able to afford it, but maybe it'd be better to put all that money in some sort of investment for retirement or a needy day instead. You do that often enough for long enough, and wow, you are well-off, but you're still living in the same place with the same vehicle and the same lifestyle you had years ago.
At some point, you can decide you want to treat yourself to a little something, a new TV, replace a car, maybe go on a nice little vacation. And you can do so and not go in debt. It is a nice feeling living beneath your means and seeing that retirement may actually be possible on your own terms.
Thanks, Pottering, ... to whom might I bill my lost time?
I believe you have the answer, if you'll only look.
The internet has destroyed this model of billing completely. Until the internet itself is destroyed by regional segmentation and firewalling, there is no mechanism for enforcing even international per minute billing. I can "call" someone anywhere in the world that has a reasonable 1Mbps internet connection, and it's free.
EA sets up a multiplayer scenario where they can micro-transact you to death for faster progression or "wins" against opponents. (I've not played an EA game in a while, so some of this comes only from commentary and EAs advertising) They do release sequels, and some of those garner quite a bit in sales. You don't get sales without improving some aspect of the game, and merely improving graphics resolution or sound isn't going to cut it for most. Now physics and AI both improve gameplay, or can, depending on the game, but you're statement equates those 2 as no more impactful than sound/graphics. In fact, AI, or rather the computer controlled player algorithm, may be the single most determining piece of whether a game can be fun or not. I present Civilization as a prime example of where the AI alone made each release better for the first 4 iterations. Graphics also made significant improvements in gameplay in each release even if distracting elements accompanied those improvements, especially looking back today.