If I was you, I'd cut her loose and stop defending her.
Thank goodness you're not. I'm not sure I'd like the smell where your head's at. And I'm not defending her, you think I am, which only shows everyone else how clueless you are. All I'm saying is stick with the facts. You seem unable to do that. I'll leave you to rut in your sty now.
Yea, I don't know anything at all about handling classified information... Of course I could claim to have various clearances for 50 years but this is the internet, I could claim anything about myself and you'd not know the differance.
I think that's about the truest thing you've posted.
This "other folks did it" is a dodge. No they didn't, not with classified information, not to this extent and certainly they didn't lie about having done it. In both cases they provided access so the archives could be made in accordance with the law. Clinton? Not so much...
You're making baseless assumptions. It's not a dodge. It's a fact - they used private email accounts for government business. 2 were predecessors for Hillary, and bunch are in the current administration that yelled "email email email". "Hypocritical" is the kindest thing that can be said for any position that doesn't take the current group to task.
Clinton didn't lie about using a personal server, at least not to my recollection. However, that aside, how do you know what Powell, for example, did or did not send? By his own admission, all 100K+ emails are "gone". We only have his word. AFAIK, Rice's emails are similarly gone. Without a dump and investigation by an appropriate authority who can determine the classifications both at time sent and post sending, similar to what happened with Clinton's emails, would you be able to make any assertion at all about how badly those predecessors screwed up. Considering their positions, it will be almost impossible for them not to have done something inadvertently.
In case you haven't figured it out - I think they all stink. I just find your particular brand of smearing an individual you bear obvious ill will for pretty disingenuous. I picture you being #3 in the lynch mob, cheering on the slaughter, not having the balls to be the leader.
Facts aren't dodges. Your biases are showing. It's fine if "my guys" do it, but you'll take the other side to task. Where's your outrage for Trump disclosing classified info to the Russians? You're like a bulldog on a bone, ignoring the steak right next to you.
I see you've taken up mind-reading as a vocation also.
It's not that hard to keep things separated, it's a pain in the butt, but doable if you have half a care about what you are doing.
You would know this how? It's apparent from your postings the closest you've ever gotten to classified data is Hillary's emails.
Hillary didn't care.
Repeating an assertion doesn't make you clairvoyant nor correct.
She either didn't care enough to educate herself in the proper protection of our nation's most sensitive information, or she didn't care enough to protect it.
Oh my, I tell you three times... sort of?
Take your pick... Either way, it reflects badly on her.
My guess is she knew what this stuff was. It's not like she's a novice with this stuff. She's held clearances off and on for years. She simply didn't care...
And let's not forget the *real* issue here.... Using a personal E-mail server for official government business? Really? That's illegal and she KNEW that too. After all, she sent a memo reprimanding one of her ambassadors on this very subject. It was the FOIA request from some right wing group that caught this and sued her to find these E-mail's...
So, you're going to go after Powell, Rice, Jared and whomever else was using personal or trump org emails for government business? You're going to be one busy fellow. I look forward to your outrage being posted. After all that, provided you have any energy left, you can hype yourself up on all the personal (non-gov) Russian contacts in the Trump administration, just in the past 3 years. Enjoy.
You might want to reread that yourself. That was 2000+ emails that contained information that was classified after the fact. Also, BTW, out of those 2000+, only 1 was later classified secret. The rest all had the lowest possible classification, confidential. This is stuff you find every day, that thousands of gov workers and contractors know and have, many even without security clearances. Because the information is not magically classified by fact. It is classified by context and relationships. Which is why classified material is such a pain to work with and once you have clearance it's better to just talk about sports or your neighbors kids or something else completely unrelated to work, because even who you saw or met today could be classified, whether you know it or not.
Finally... Did you actually READ page 2 of the report you provided the link to? The first paragraph makes it pretty clear that Hillary had some pretty sensitive stuff on her various E-mail servers and devices... Stuff your average person would have been strung up for mishandling..
I actually did read it. I even summarized it (You may want to read that link). We have no idea what the info was, as it's redacted. We know there were email chains between unclassified systems, which means there should be no classified info on them. We also know that only a handful of emails with classified info originated from Clinton, and that none with markings did so. BTW, you know those pages come with markings, right? And if there is no classified info on it, it's not classified? It's actually misclassified or over classified.
As for your comment about average people, note that Powell was the first to use private email services, and he should have definitely known better considering his positions through the 90s. And where's your pitchfork for him, or Rice, for that matter. They're either all guilty, or none.
In total, the investigation found 110 emails in 52 email chains containing information that was classified at the time it was sent or received. Eight chains contained top secret information, the highest level of classification, 36 chains contained secret information, and the remaining eight contained confidential information. Most of these emails, however, did not contain markings clearly delineating their status....
About 2,000 additional emails have been retroactively classified, or up-classified, meaning the information was not classified when it was first emailed.
So, classified information is funny stuff. A "fact" can be classified, but only if it's stated in relation to another fact. Guidance states that if something is classified, it is better to never mention it unless its absence makes it notable. (e.g., for instance, a series of numbers, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 where 5 might be classified in some relation to, say, number of x's) And yes, writing publicly releasable documents when you hold a clearance can be a real challenge.
But, back to your CBS reference and so forth - 2 document had markings, but didn't actually contain classified material, this again just proves that just because it's stamped with a classification doesn't make it so. And finally, her telling her subordinate to send the talking points insecure doesn't mean they sent classified info that way, and it even states that in your link. Take the above example about 5.... If I send that same "classified" information paragraph, removing the number and relation from the text, it's no longer classified, much like those redacted FBI documents
I still hold that her having a private email server was stupid and against general common sense security policy as practiced within at least large portions of the government. She should have known better, as should have Rice and Powell before her, but especially Powell, who has 0 excuses.
And don't get me wrong, she was still a terrible choice, just less terrible than the one we got through a fluke of an ancient system designed to overcome the limitations of technology at that time. In fact, only her, out of all the possible other dem candidates and quite a few republicans could have lost. That's how terrible she was as a candidate. Don't sugar coat that one.
You can read the entire thing here That's as official as it gets. Now, you made the claim that she knowingly sent at the time classified email. We'll await your response....
And those markings mean nothing (much like the ones in the FBI link above) once they are from a supposedly insecure source (e.g., the unclassified State Dept email server)
First, the cell capacity is quite sensitive to how fast you charge it - if you charge it fast, the peak capacity is significantly reduced. That said, it's not a permanent difference; if the next time you charge it's a slow charge you go right back to the higher capacity. Secondly, when you include the inactive materials, they show about 450Wh/kg at low charge rates, and around 300Wh/kg at high charge rates....As for manufacture, it's a simple process, and requires no (relatively) expensive mined materials (e.g. no cobalt or the like).
about 15 years ago, when batteries looked like they'd plateaued, I pretty much thought the future of batteries would be in a nano-structure. My thinking was more along the lines of super capacitors shrunk to nano size structures, allowing for virtually instant charging and regulated discharging. I'll admit some of this was based on Phillip Jose Farmer's description of the "batacitor" in his Riverworld series and thinking there wasn't a real reason we couldn't come up with something to make that sci-fi concept real.
it is, technologically, better than IE. It has better support for web standards and is much faster.
Those two sentences are in direct opposition to everything else you said earlier (unresponsive, locks up, buggy) which also explains your initial sentence
Does anyone actually do this? It's a serious question. I can't imagine having my desktop tabs and bookmarks used on a phone. In fact, one of the things I like most about a phone browser is the fact that I get a "light" mobile web page in some instances. In others, the sites are largely useless.
Just in the past 6 hours it's used 31% of the battery, even though I'm at work and only really used it over lunch. That includes 9% in background even though the option that very clearly says never allowed in background is checked.
Because of Hillary Clinton.... She E-mailed classified stuff around the planet on her personal E-mail server without so much as ROT 13 encryption... BUT.... James Comey decided that it wasn't a crime and announced to the world that he didn't think she could be charged because she had no intent to be careless.
If Hills can, why not this contractor? After all, it wasn't their INTENT to share it with the Russians and they presumably didn't E-mail it to anybody.
(Sarc off)
I think that's "Jack off".
Show me where Hillary actually mailed known classified material using her server. Oh right, you can't. Things that she created (all 7 emails, IIRC) were classified after the fact. The total of 100 or so emails with classified or sensitive data mostly originated from the unclassified State Dept email system, and were not originated by her. So Comey came to the correct conclusion, even if his getting there was just about the worst path possible and likely was the key straw that gave us our current disaster.
I understand you hate Hillary, I don't like her either, but at least stick to facts.
If dRumpF says fake news, he thinks it makes him look bad and is in denial. It is probably also not fake.
I'm not too sure about that. The cynic in me says that he does it because he doesn't like it and it goes against what he's selling today. To be in denial would mean there's a potential understanding somewhere in there. Until there's some sign of that, I am not holding out hope. After all, does a 3 year old throwing a tantrum realize he looks like an idiot? Or is he only interested in whatever has attracted his attention at that moment and is being denied him?
You encouraged me to dig, AT&T did indeed provide updates, at some point, according to their website. However, my phone still says it is current at 4.4.4. Obviously something's amiss.
Who really benefits when copyright term is the author's lifetime plus 70-120 years?
If something is in copyright longer than the average lifespan, then effectively it is unlimited copyright and not a limited time for anyone within the target audience.
Here in the USA though the moment most people hear "European style" they'll dismiss it as socialist and proudly remind you of how we value our freedoms here
Brainwashing works both ways, as the rest of your comment shows.
My iPad was kept for 4.5 years, and replaced more for the hardware & pencil for sketching, and the iPhone is now nearly 3 and will keep maybe another year; iOS 11 has actually improved some things on it. Apple could... be better, but it could be a lot worse.
It could be Android. Seriously. but that aside, iOS 11 IMHO was not ready for prime time, and has numerous issues in how it's designed. More than iOS 10, in fact. Here's a short list:
* Battery: something is seriously sucking battery life, even with all background processing off, Mail still does significant background processing. This is with optimized mail not loading remote content, so Mail's impact should be minimal.
* Do Not Disturb while driving: for a non iPhone 8, at least, this 1 feature will drain your battery in hours in automatic or connected mode. It is off.
* GUI - ever since iOS 10, the GUI has been a disaster from a usability standpoint. Anyone that rotates their messages app to landscape to use a slightly larger keyboard will have seen the multiple layers of GUI elements rotate in random directions like multiple pinwheels. In the initial release of iOS 10, you could "lose" portions of your conversations and had to pop out and pop back into your conversation to see the sent/received message. They fixed this problem with 10.1. With iOS 11 so far, the multi-rotating elements are still there and now the "set point" for the existing conversation can be 1 or 2 entries above the actual end. This means that there is more conversation "below" the entry bar, and the only way to get it is to either back out of the conversation and enter it again, forcing a GUI redraw of the entire stack, or if you send a new message, or perhaps receive one, although I haven't confirmed this approach. This also happens coming from the lock screen and directly into an already open conversation. It's just indicative of the GUI layer drawing issues of iOS.
* The new landscape keyboard layout. Stupid. Use the space effectively.
I'm sure there are many many others, but these are the ones that most affect me as a user. And honestly, they're almost deal breakers, except I know how terrible the other side is and I know at least 2 of these will be fixed or can be turned off.
And I agree, these are expensive things, and it isn't the fault of the customer if they can't get software updates.
It absolutely is the fault of the customer if they choose a brand known for not delivering. Or will you say it is not the customer's fault for buying a Yugo and then complaining that it only lasted 30K and not 200K? (Yeah, that's going back a ways, but I'm not sure there's a worse reliable brand out there)
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If I was you, I'd cut her loose and stop defending her.
Thank goodness you're not. I'm not sure I'd like the smell where your head's at. And I'm not defending her, you think I am, which only shows everyone else how clueless you are. All I'm saying is stick with the facts. You seem unable to do that. I'll leave you to rut in your sty now.
Yea, I don't know anything at all about handling classified information... Of course I could claim to have various clearances for 50 years but this is the internet, I could claim anything about myself and you'd not know the differance.
I think that's about the truest thing you've posted.
This "other folks did it" is a dodge. No they didn't, not with classified information, not to this extent and certainly they didn't lie about having done it. In both cases they provided access so the archives could be made in accordance with the law. Clinton? Not so much...
You're making baseless assumptions. It's not a dodge. It's a fact - they used private email accounts for government business. 2 were predecessors for Hillary, and bunch are in the current administration that yelled "email email email". "Hypocritical" is the kindest thing that can be said for any position that doesn't take the current group to task.
Clinton didn't lie about using a personal server, at least not to my recollection. However, that aside, how do you know what Powell, for example, did or did not send? By his own admission, all 100K+ emails are "gone". We only have his word. AFAIK, Rice's emails are similarly gone. Without a dump and investigation by an appropriate authority who can determine the classifications both at time sent and post sending, similar to what happened with Clinton's emails, would you be able to make any assertion at all about how badly those predecessors screwed up. Considering their positions, it will be almost impossible for them not to have done something inadvertently.
In case you haven't figured it out - I think they all stink. I just find your particular brand of smearing an individual you bear obvious ill will for pretty disingenuous. I picture you being #3 in the lynch mob, cheering on the slaughter, not having the balls to be the leader.
There is NO SUCH THING as "Classified after the fact".
You're clueless.
Facts aren't dodges. Your biases are showing. It's fine if "my guys" do it, but you'll take the other side to task. Where's your outrage for Trump disclosing classified info to the Russians? You're like a bulldog on a bone, ignoring the steak right next to you.
She just didn't care.
I see you've taken up mind-reading as a vocation also.
It's not that hard to keep things separated, it's a pain in the butt, but doable if you have half a care about what you are doing.
You would know this how? It's apparent from your postings the closest you've ever gotten to classified data is Hillary's emails.
Hillary didn't care.
Repeating an assertion doesn't make you clairvoyant nor correct.
She either didn't care enough to educate herself in the proper protection of our nation's most sensitive information, or she didn't care enough to protect it.
Oh my, I tell you three times... sort of?
Take your pick... Either way, it reflects badly on her.
My guess is she knew what this stuff was. It's not like she's a novice with this stuff. She's held clearances off and on for years. She simply didn't care...
There it is - three times true.
And let's not forget the *real* issue here.... Using a personal E-mail server for official government business? Really? That's illegal and she KNEW that too. After all, she sent a memo reprimanding one of her ambassadors on this very subject. It was the FOIA request from some right wing group that caught this and sued her to find these E-mail's...
So, you're going to go after Powell, Rice, Jared and whomever else was using personal or trump org emails for government business? You're going to be one busy fellow. I look forward to your outrage being posted. After all that, provided you have any energy left, you can hype yourself up on all the personal (non-gov) Russian contacts in the Trump administration, just in the past 3 years. Enjoy.
You might want to reread that yourself. That was 2000+ emails that contained information that was classified after the fact. Also, BTW, out of those 2000+, only 1 was later classified secret. The rest all had the lowest possible classification, confidential. This is stuff you find every day, that thousands of gov workers and contractors know and have, many even without security clearances. Because the information is not magically classified by fact. It is classified by context and relationships. Which is why classified material is such a pain to work with and once you have clearance it's better to just talk about sports or your neighbors kids or something else completely unrelated to work, because even who you saw or met today could be classified, whether you know it or not.
Finally... Did you actually READ page 2 of the report you provided the link to? The first paragraph makes it pretty clear that Hillary had some pretty sensitive stuff on her various E-mail servers and devices... Stuff your average person would have been strung up for mishandling..
I actually did read it. I even summarized it (You may want to read that link). We have no idea what the info was, as it's redacted. We know there were email chains between unclassified systems, which means there should be no classified info on them. We also know that only a handful of emails with classified info originated from Clinton, and that none with markings did so. BTW, you know those pages come with markings, right? And if there is no classified info on it, it's not classified? It's actually misclassified or over classified.
As for your comment about average people, note that Powell was the first to use private email services, and he should have definitely known better considering his positions through the 90s. And where's your pitchfork for him, or Rice, for that matter. They're either all guilty, or none.
I changed the sig to be a little more clear. Snarkiness/tonal delivery (in my head) doesn't come over well in less than 140 chars of text.
This I can understand doing, and I used to do something similar. It's been down a while because that box moved.
So, classified information is funny stuff. A "fact" can be classified, but only if it's stated in relation to another fact. Guidance states that if something is classified, it is better to never mention it unless its absence makes it notable. (e.g., for instance, a series of numbers, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 where 5 might be classified in some relation to, say, number of x's) And yes, writing publicly releasable documents when you hold a clearance can be a real challenge.
But, back to your CBS reference and so forth - 2 document had markings, but didn't actually contain classified material, this again just proves that just because it's stamped with a classification doesn't make it so. And finally, her telling her subordinate to send the talking points insecure doesn't mean they sent classified info that way, and it even states that in your link. Take the above example about 5.... If I send that same "classified" information paragraph, removing the number and relation from the text, it's no longer classified, much like those redacted FBI documents
I still hold that her having a private email server was stupid and against general common sense security policy as practiced within at least large portions of the government. She should have known better, as should have Rice and Powell before her, but especially Powell, who has 0 excuses.
And don't get me wrong, she was still a terrible choice, just less terrible than the one we got through a fluke of an ancient system designed to overcome the limitations of technology at that time. In fact, only her, out of all the possible other dem candidates and quite a few republicans could have lost. That's how terrible she was as a candidate. Don't sugar coat that one.
I clearly read the FBI report It's clear that you did not.
You can read the entire thing here That's as official as it gets. Now, you made the claim that she knowingly sent at the time classified email. We'll await your response....
And those markings mean nothing (much like the ones in the FBI link above) once they are from a supposedly insecure source (e.g., the unclassified State Dept email server)
First, the cell capacity is quite sensitive to how fast you charge it - if you charge it fast, the peak capacity is significantly reduced. That said, it's not a permanent difference; if the next time you charge it's a slow charge you go right back to the higher capacity. Secondly, when you include the inactive materials, they show about 450Wh/kg at low charge rates, and around 300Wh/kg at high charge rates. ...As for manufacture, it's a simple process, and requires no (relatively) expensive mined materials (e.g. no cobalt or the like).
about 15 years ago, when batteries looked like they'd plateaued, I pretty much thought the future of batteries would be in a nano-structure. My thinking was more along the lines of super capacitors shrunk to nano size structures, allowing for virtually instant charging and regulated discharging. I'll admit some of this was based on Phillip Jose Farmer's description of the "batacitor" in his Riverworld series and thinking there wasn't a real reason we couldn't come up with something to make that sci-fi concept real.
it is, technologically, better than IE. It has better support for web standards and is much faster.
Those two sentences are in direct opposition to everything else you said earlier (unresponsive, locks up, buggy) which also explains your initial sentence
Nobody uses Edge on Windows
Probably things like bookmark and tab sharing
Does anyone actually do this? It's a serious question. I can't imagine having my desktop tabs and bookmarks used on a phone. In fact, one of the things I like most about a phone browser is the fact that I get a "light" mobile web page in some instances. In others, the sites are largely useless.
Just in the past 6 hours it's used 31% of the battery, even though I'm at work and only really used it over lunch. That includes 9% in background even though the option that very clearly says never allowed in background is checked.
You sure you didn't upgrade to iOS 11?
At last count, that was 2 of them. Bill and Melinda no longer use those apps.
Because of Hillary Clinton.... She E-mailed classified stuff around the planet on her personal E-mail server without so much as ROT 13 encryption... BUT.... James Comey decided that it wasn't a crime and announced to the world that he didn't think she could be charged because she had no intent to be careless.
If Hills can, why not this contractor? After all, it wasn't their INTENT to share it with the Russians and they presumably didn't E-mail it to anybody.
(Sarc off)
I think that's "Jack off".
Show me where Hillary actually mailed known classified material using her server. Oh right, you can't. Things that she created (all 7 emails, IIRC) were classified after the fact. The total of 100 or so emails with classified or sensitive data mostly originated from the unclassified State Dept email system, and were not originated by her. So Comey came to the correct conclusion, even if his getting there was just about the worst path possible and likely was the key straw that gave us our current disaster.
I understand you hate Hillary, I don't like her either, but at least stick to facts.
If dRumpF says fake news, he thinks it makes him look bad and is in denial. It is probably also not fake.
I'm not too sure about that. The cynic in me says that he does it because he doesn't like it and it goes against what he's selling today. To be in denial would mean there's a potential understanding somewhere in there. Until there's some sign of that, I am not holding out hope. After all, does a 3 year old throwing a tantrum realize he looks like an idiot? Or is he only interested in whatever has attracted his attention at that moment and is being denied him?
Who cares about reputation?
You encouraged me to dig, AT&T did indeed provide updates, at some point, according to their website. However, my phone still says it is current at 4.4.4. Obviously something's amiss.
Who really benefits when copyright term is the author's lifetime plus 70-120 years?
If something is in copyright longer than the average lifespan, then effectively it is unlimited copyright and not a limited time for anyone within the target audience.
Here in the USA though the moment most people hear "European style" they'll dismiss it as socialist and proudly remind you of how we value our freedoms here
Brainwashing works both ways, as the rest of your comment shows.
My iPad was kept for 4.5 years, and replaced more for the hardware & pencil for sketching, and the iPhone is now nearly 3 and will keep maybe another year; iOS 11 has actually improved some things on it. Apple could... be better, but it could be a lot worse.
It could be Android. Seriously. but that aside, iOS 11 IMHO was not ready for prime time, and has numerous issues in how it's designed. More than iOS 10, in fact. Here's a short list:
I'm sure there are many many others, but these are the ones that most affect me as a user. And honestly, they're almost deal breakers, except I know how terrible the other side is and I know at least 2 of these will be fixed or can be turned off.
And I agree, these are expensive things, and it isn't the fault of the customer if they can't get software updates.
It absolutely is the fault of the customer if they choose a brand known for not delivering. Or will you say it is not the customer's fault for buying a Yugo and then complaining that it only lasted 30K and not 200K? (Yeah, that's going back a ways, but I'm not sure there's a worse reliable brand out there)
If you're not carrying some chip on your shoulder over Sony, unlike many people here, you might check out their phones.
Burn me once, shame on you, burn me 20 times, well.... some of us would prefer not to get there.