They have been under attack for years in Europe.
Take this article from in 2007 by Fox News of all sources, just to avoid counter-CC bias:-)
Trust me when I say they aren't getting anywhere soon in Western Europe.
They try now and then by shipping propaganda books to libraries and other tricks like that. Fortunately, those are usually handled swiftly and efficiently.
Perhaps MoxFulder is not living in the US like me. "Dell" has different OS policies in different countries. In Belgium, I checked with Dell, IBM, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, etc.
Desktops: No Linux Laptops: No Linux Netbooks: no Linux
It's only for server platforms that you can find boxes without software, with Windows software, RedHat, SuSE etc.
That leaves white-box, unsupported, un-serviced boxes that leave me in the dust when they fail. It's better for me to buy an XP box from say Dell, dump Windows & install Linux and get a decent support contract with on-site support.
Yes, but this network and the interactions and feedback loops in there are what makes it all interesting, not the size of the network itself. I always thought that creating the network connections is what makes it so hard to create a true AI.
I've been using Android with gmail, maps, calendar and all in the cloud for a month now and I absolutely love it. It's so much easier and faster to NOT have to download any mail and just keep it on the server. It's so much more fun to be able to see my calendar on-line wherever I go, edit phone contacts on-line, etc.
I had a different perception of that experience earlier on and it changed completely with the HTC Magic & Android. Hence my request for feedback on the negativity towards Google and/or Wave. If there are any actual negative experiences to share I would still love to hear about it.
Well, it's getting a bit off-topic, but is hosting anything in the cloud really that insane? Is your average internal mail or file server better with respect to uptime than Google or Amazon? Or is your Internet and backup-Internet connection that bad? Would your company survive is it didn't receive any e-mail for a few days? What would the damage be? Is your local mail server as redundant as the Google gmail servers?
I think these are all valid questions to ask and I think that for a *lot* of companies with a non-backed up Internet connection, non redundant mail server the risks are a lot higher with the local infrastructure.
Personally I think you can perhaps see it a trust concern, not really an availability issue. The evidence is not really there to support it either way.
I hope you do realize that all your complaints apply to e-mail as well. In the case of IMAP/Exchange that even goes for the persistence. And they also apply to wiki, to IM, etc. The fact that you can run your own server for your company/organization was actually demoed during the initial Google announcement. The protocol is open, the source is open.
So why the hostile reaction towards Wave? Where did the knee-jerk come from?
I guess ultimately the point is to have eternal life of-course. Speed is not an issue, that's simply a relative speed vs. regular people not vs the virtual environment the artificial brain is in. Back in the days when I still had time to read I must have read quite a few SF books that featured the idea.
Government is about spreading the wealth around and bringing bucks to your home state. It's not really wrong, its just how democracy actually is.
Really, is that what democracy is all about? Darned, I was wrong all along! I thought it was a form of government in which the right to govern is vested in the citizens of a country or a state and exercised through a majority rule.
I also never assumed that there would be some underlying goal to make life better for all, not just a few individuals. However, I did most certainly hope that this would be the case.
What a bummer!
Matt P.S. OK, OK, I stole that second line from Wikipedia!
You don't even know me buddy. Seems like the wind scattered your thoughts a bit. I heard that woods, forests and trees are good to relax and calm down. Why don't you go hug one somewhere to calm down a bit.
Even 1/40th sounds like a an awful lot of windmills.
I also would like to point out that this "smart" grid would have to be really "smart" to be able to create electricity when there is no wind. Given the fact that whole countries (and multiples of it) can be without wind at any given time, that seems like the biggest challenge.
Personally, I think that these "wind|sun|wave energy solves all our problems" stories do more harm than good because they offer an extreme and unbalanced view that is so easily dismissed.
I badly want a netbook with Linux on it and I know quite a number of people that would love one too.
The truth is that in the country where I live (Belgium) I simply can't buy one anywhere. There used to be a web shop that had two (2) high end models, but no more. I just saw they are started selling one (1) ultra-cheap model for â149 at the local Carefour supermarket. That's *it*.
Note that exactly the same goes for laptops and PCs. I simply can't buy any brand with Linux on it or even without a Microsoft/Apple operating system on it.
After I bought my Dell Precision M60 laptop, I never even booted it into Windows XP pro, I just booted from a Kubuntu DVD. I simply erased all the crapware from the hard disk. Now, 3 years later, I haven't looked back, but it *still* annoys me terribly that I had to pay Microsoft for something I didn't even want. That's at least â100 that I didn't want to spend over at Microsoft although I would have no problem spending it at Canonical. The same sort of laptops get sold with Linux pre-installed in other countries. Not in Belgium, not in many other countries.
It's not very hard to claim that Linux sales is negligible in that sort of situation. Heck, I'm amazed Linux reached the 1% barrier at all.
Druppel in Dutch sounds almost exactly like Drupal. Given that the project lead speaks Dutch, I always suspected that it has something to do with "a drop" (lit.) The logo is a single drop of fluid so that tells me I'm probably not that far off.
The bugs man, the BUGS! Did you forget about the horrible crashes? Did you forget about the horribly complex desktop? Did you forget how flimsy it all was? How the next version always would fix things and it never did?
The slow steaming pile of dog excrement called Lotus Notes is NOT a good reference for anyone, especially not the designer of this sorry excuse for wasting perfectly good CPU cycles and disk space.
You seem to imply that Android is closed source? It's not.
The hardest part of the search technology, the processing of massive amounts of data and the indexing of that was open sourced as well.
I think it's fair to say that Microsoft is anti-open source and Google pro-open source. Actions speak louder than words, especially words coming from Microsoft I might add.
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Why artificially limit yourself to a single laser? In fact the patent application (eldavojohn's post) mentions "laser arrays with N lasers".
It was as I've been using it for 3 years now.
Take this article from in 2007 by Fox News of all sources, just to avoid counter-CC bias
Trust me when I say they aren't getting anywhere soon in Western Europe.
They try now and then by shipping propaganda books to libraries and other tricks like that. Fortunately, those are usually handled swiftly and efficiently.
What whoosh? Wasted wellintended words.
Perhaps MoxFulder is not living in the US like me.
"Dell" has different OS policies in different countries. In Belgium, I checked with Dell, IBM, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, etc.
Desktops: No Linux
Laptops: No Linux
Netbooks: no Linux
It's only for server platforms that you can find boxes without software, with Windows software, RedHat, SuSE etc.
That leaves white-box, unsupported, un-serviced boxes that leave me in the dust when they fail. It's better for me to buy an XP box from say Dell, dump Windows & install Linux and get a decent support contract with on-site support.
Yes, but this network and the interactions and feedback loops in there are what makes it all interesting, not the size of the network itself. I always thought that creating the network connections is what makes it so hard to create a true AI.
FWIW I was actually genuinely interested.
I've been using Android with gmail, maps, calendar and all in the cloud for a month now and I absolutely love it.
It's so much easier and faster to NOT have to download any mail and just keep it on the server.
It's so much more fun to be able to see my calendar on-line wherever I go, edit phone contacts on-line, etc.
I had a different perception of that experience earlier on and it changed completely with the HTC Magic & Android. Hence my request for feedback on the negativity towards Google and/or Wave. If there are any actual negative experiences to share I would still love to hear about it.
Well, it's getting a bit off-topic, but is hosting anything in the cloud really that insane?
Is your average internal mail or file server better with respect to uptime than Google or Amazon?
Or is your Internet and backup-Internet connection that bad? Would your company survive is it didn't receive any e-mail for a few days? What would the damage be?
Is your local mail server as redundant as the Google gmail servers?
I think these are all valid questions to ask and I think that for a *lot* of companies with a non-backed up Internet connection, non redundant mail server the risks are a lot higher with the local infrastructure.
Personally I think you can perhaps see it a trust concern, not really an availability issue. The evidence is not really there to support it either way.
I hope you do realize that all your complaints apply to e-mail as well. In the case of IMAP/Exchange that even goes for the persistence.
And they also apply to wiki, to IM, etc.
The fact that you can run your own server for your company/organization was actually demoed during the initial Google announcement.
The protocol is open, the source is open.
So why the hostile reaction towards Wave? Where did the knee-jerk come from?
I guess ultimately the point is to have eternal life of-course.
Speed is not an issue, that's simply a relative speed vs. regular people not vs the virtual environment the artificial brain is in.
Back in the days when I still had time to read I must have read quite a few SF books that featured the idea.
Government is about spreading the wealth around and bringing bucks to your home state. It's not really wrong, its just how democracy actually is.
Really, is that what democracy is all about? Darned, I was wrong all along!
I thought it was a form of government in which the right to govern is vested in the citizens of a country or a state and exercised through a majority rule.
I also never assumed that there would be some underlying goal to make life better for all, not just a few individuals. However, I did most certainly hope that this would be the case.
What a bummer!
Matt
P.S. OK, OK, I stole that second line from Wikipedia!
Yeah, they ought to gather some sort of consortium of open source companies to lobby with the gove... oh wait.
Belgium, which is notorious for its disruptive behavior on the Internet
Citation needed.
The "Everything slimed by ghosts" kind of end of the world.
The absurd part of your rant is that I never claimed that windmills would cause the winds to fall. Such a notion is indeed a little bit absurd.
So I guess you're barking up the wrong tree. That can happen if you're standing really close to one.
You don't even know me buddy. Seems like the wind scattered your thoughts a bit.
I heard that woods, forests and trees are good to relax and calm down.
Why don't you go hug one somewhere to calm down a bit.
Even 1/40th sounds like a an awful lot of windmills.
I also would like to point out that this "smart" grid would have to be really "smart" to be able to create electricity when there is no wind. Given the fact that whole countries (and multiples of it) can be without wind at any given time, that seems like the biggest challenge.
Personally, I think that these "wind|sun|wave energy solves all our problems" stories do more harm than good because they offer an extreme and unbalanced view that is so easily dismissed.
US only I'm afraid.
No, they don't.
I badly want a netbook with Linux on it and I know quite a number of people that would love one too.
The truth is that in the country where I live (Belgium) I simply can't buy one anywhere.
There used to be a web shop that had two (2) high end models, but no more.
I just saw they are started selling one (1) ultra-cheap model for â149 at the local Carefour supermarket.
That's *it*.
Note that exactly the same goes for laptops and PCs. I simply can't buy any brand with Linux on it or even without a Microsoft/Apple operating system on it.
After I bought my Dell Precision M60 laptop, I never even booted it into Windows XP pro, I just booted from a Kubuntu DVD. I simply erased all the crapware from the hard disk.
Now, 3 years later, I haven't looked back, but it *still* annoys me terribly that I had to pay Microsoft for something I didn't even want.
That's at least â100 that I didn't want to spend over at Microsoft although I would have no problem spending it at Canonical.
The same sort of laptops get sold with Linux pre-installed in other countries. Not in Belgium, not in many other countries.
It's not very hard to claim that Linux sales is negligible in that sort of situation. Heck, I'm amazed Linux reached the 1% barrier at all.
Matt
Druppel in Dutch sounds almost exactly like Drupal.
Given that the project lead speaks Dutch, I always suspected that it has something to do with "a drop" (lit.)
The logo is a single drop of fluid so that tells me I'm probably not that far off.
No, no, no, Microsoft turns to Open Source for recursive acronyms now:
Bing Is Not Google
The bugs man, the BUGS! Did you forget about the horrible crashes? Did you forget about the horribly complex desktop? Did you forget how flimsy it all was? How the next version always would fix things and it never did?
The slow steaming pile of dog excrement called Lotus Notes is NOT a good reference for anyone, especially not the designer of this sorry excuse for wasting perfectly good CPU cycles and disk space.
I just tried it:
Bing.com : 353,000,000 results for "Linux"
google.com : 484,000,000 results for "Linux"
So I guess "a few thousand" seems to be somewhat "underestimated" :-)
You seem to imply that Android is closed source? It's not.
The hardest part of the search technology, the processing of massive amounts of data and the indexing of that was open sourced as well.
I think it's fair to say that Microsoft is anti-open source and Google pro-open source. Actions speak louder than words, especially words coming from Microsoft I might add.