While technically profitable, Walt Disney Feature Animation was hemorrhaging cash.
Bullshit. Lilo and Stitch alone could have supported their entire animation division for 50 years.
Three of the four feature animations released after Tarzan lost money.
While how many of the previous four made nine figures? Or ten?
By 2002, the division had clearly lost sight of how to make a successful film.
No. MANAGEMENT had clearly lost sight of how to make a successful film, since MANAGEMENT was directly involved in EVERY project down to the most BASIC creative levels. The animators drew what they were told to draw. These were the same animators that drew Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid and Lilo and Stitch. Were those successful films? They must have been, since they practically reinvented the entire company.
WDFA's last traditionally animated film, Home on the Range, was the lowest grossing Disney animated feature ever.
Green-lighted by whom? Took ten years to get Lilo and Stitch made.
So don't bullshit about "no reason".
You're asking me not to bullshit? Really? Disney feature animation was shitcanned for no reason at all. 2D animation has no problems making money when management doesn't fuck everything up. There are 400 animation studios in Japan. Give it up.
I didn't say it was false. I said it was a false dilemma.
Or alternatively you believe that your God is intentionally trying to trick humans with planted evidence.
Or alternatively, that God created evolution. The book of Genesis, with the exception of one chronological inconsistency, is a near perfect allegory for the most modern understandings of the origins of the universe, all the way to quantum theory.
The entire field of biology and subsets bio-tech, medical research, relies on evolution as the basis for its research and you believe that modern medicine is a hack.
I have great respect for science. I can also look at a detailed photograph of a honeybee, or a sunset, or a cherry blossom tree and see the signature of their Creator. Science and God are not exclusive.
That guy on TV told you.
I don't watch TV.
Certainly it makes sense to believe and support evolution over any other theory.
It's a good theory, and parts of it make a lot of sense. Other parts don't. That's science.
Pricey, but not considered unreasonable for a strategic purchase of a well known brand.
That can't even pay for itself until 2056? Wow. Well known brands must be pretty valuable. Must be why Disney can't green light anything except sequels and layoffs.
And even if you did, who would buy it, even if it was worth that much?
Disney. They'd make it a character in a movie. After it faceplanted, they'd make a sequel, as a metaphorical gesture of wiping their ass on the face of someone with a really good idea.
1. Yes, it is possible to sell comics/books/movies/music on the Internet, despite the fact that TEH NOOBZ R TEH PIR4T3ZING. 2. Yes, it is possible to make a living selling comics/books/movies/music on the Internet. 3. The Internet is not a dump truck 4. The big giant media companies are not interested in sales, revenue, copyrights or customers. They want control. 5. The only reason more stuff isn't being sold online is because big giant media companies are pricing their product "money grab" instead of "good value." 6. The independent guys have development and payments down. Once they get marketing, it's over. 7. The Internet is a series of tubes.
Pixar brings in seven billion? Disney's animation division brought in money too. They were shitcanned so fast it left a dent. But see that's the workplace now:
"Hey boss I just delivered 500 times my salary to the top line!"
"Great. We want your salary too. Get out."
And yep, that's exactly what Disney did to hundreds of people for no reason.
but isn't the price difference Content vs Distribution?
YouTube's audience dwarfs Disney and Pixar's combined. Someone estimated what, 60,000 new videos uploaded every day? Just a month's worth of an audience of that magnitude is immensely valuable given the obsolescence of the mass market.
Why not? It's just a few thousand layoffs. Disney power-rammed their animation division into a toilet for no reason, then shit $7 billion into a Tiffany champagne glass to buy Pixar. $1.5 billion is chickenshit.
Godzilla could be selling pennants at a Cubs game.
The PS3 will likely deliver the goods, but nevertheless is too expensive.
And the 360 isn't faring much better.
Everything sux don't it? Let's fire everyone.
You want to complain? Look at these shoes I've had them only a week and the soles are worn right through. If you complain nothing happens you might as well not bother. My back hurts and it's a really really fine day and I'm sick and tired of this...
Yeah. It's an incredible achievement to win when you have total control, overwhelming market share and multi-billion dollar budgets. Kind of like a football game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and East Dirtroad Junior College.
Look at that. A new Mars icon. That's cool. Wait... Wait a minute... Is that.. is that ICE? ICE ON MARS?? THERE'S WATER ON MARS??!?!?!?!!? WE REALLY DID EVOLVE FROM THE CRUD AROUND THE LAWN SPRINKLERS BEW HEW HEW HEW HEW HEW HEW.
Yes folks, if you leave a big pile of compost outdoors long enough, it will turn into a self-focusing optical device connected to a gigantic interconnected system of neurons capable of inventing a digital watch. Thank you.
We'd compete, see, but we fired everyone and refuse to hire and train new people.
So uh, we can't compete any more. Well, unless you want to buy entire seasons of mediocre third-rate television series from the 70s. Those are on sale I hear.
What's even more impressive is that the U.S. has garage-sold its manufacturing base to the point where it cannot provide for its own basic needs. We have to import soap.
Soap.
We're running historic trade deficits. Essentially, we're borrowing money from other countries to import products we used to make ourselves, after firing all of the people that used to make them.
E-mail is not a guaranteed-delivery medium as it is.
Red herring.
If they all do? Well, that sucks and we'll have to use something better than e-mail.
On ports that have zero traffic priority on the new and improved intarwebz no doubt. Once net neutrality goes away, the internet is destroyed. Face it.
I'm sure you didn't mean to say that our network was built with tax money, since it wasn't.
Oh yes it was. Not only did government build most of the infrastructure in the 1950s, but most large corporations pay no taxes, so yeah, it was paid for by taxpayers, twice.
Also, that's an interesting political theory you have there, that when a company offers shares to the public, the government should be granted de facto control of that company.
No. Because it is a publically traded corporation, Time Warner is subject to a massive list of (oh noes!) government regulations. You said Time Warner was a "private company," which it isn't.
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Wal-Mart performs a valuable service:
They put stuff on trucks.
The Internet is a dump truck. I don't understand the problem.
Free market competition criticized!
Oh wait, we don't have a free market or competition. Never mind.
as intentionally vaguely phrased
As most allegories are. It's not a set of instructions on how to assemble exercise equipment.
And your point is?
I believe my reply was written in rather plain English. Would you like me to draw a map?
While technically profitable, Walt Disney Feature Animation was hemorrhaging cash.
Bullshit. Lilo and Stitch alone could have supported their entire animation division for 50 years.
Three of the four feature animations released after Tarzan lost money.
While how many of the previous four made nine figures? Or ten?
By 2002, the division had clearly lost sight of how to make a successful film.
No. MANAGEMENT had clearly lost sight of how to make a successful film, since MANAGEMENT was directly involved in EVERY project down to the most BASIC creative levels. The animators drew what they were told to draw. These were the same animators that drew Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid and Lilo and Stitch. Were those successful films? They must have been, since they practically reinvented the entire company.
WDFA's last traditionally animated film, Home on the Range, was the lowest grossing Disney animated feature ever.
Green-lighted by whom? Took ten years to get Lilo and Stitch made.
So don't bullshit about "no reason".
You're asking me not to bullshit? Really? Disney feature animation was shitcanned for no reason at all. 2D animation has no problems making money when management doesn't fuck everything up. There are 400 animation studios in Japan. Give it up.
And you believe its false because:
I didn't say it was false. I said it was a false dilemma.
Or alternatively you believe that your God is intentionally trying to trick humans with planted evidence.
Or alternatively, that God created evolution. The book of Genesis, with the exception of one chronological inconsistency, is a near perfect allegory for the most modern understandings of the origins of the universe, all the way to quantum theory.
The entire field of biology and subsets bio-tech, medical research, relies on evolution as the basis for its research and you believe that modern medicine is a hack.
I have great respect for science. I can also look at a detailed photograph of a honeybee, or a sunset, or a cherry blossom tree and see the signature of their Creator. Science and God are not exclusive.
That guy on TV told you.
I don't watch TV.
Certainly it makes sense to believe and support evolution over any other theory.
It's a good theory, and parts of it make a lot of sense. Other parts don't. That's science.
Pricey, but not considered unreasonable for a strategic purchase of a well known brand.
That can't even pay for itself until 2056? Wow. Well known brands must be pretty valuable. Must be why Disney can't green light anything except sequels and layoffs.
And even if you did, who would buy it, even if it was worth that much?
Disney. They'd make it a character in a movie. After it faceplanted, they'd make a sequel, as a metaphorical gesture of wiping their ass on the face of someone with a really good idea.
1. Yes, it is possible to sell comics/books/movies/music on the Internet, despite the fact that TEH NOOBZ R TEH PIR4T3ZING.
2. Yes, it is possible to make a living selling comics/books/movies/music on the Internet.
3. The Internet is not a dump truck
4. The big giant media companies are not interested in sales, revenue, copyrights or customers. They want control.
5. The only reason more stuff isn't being sold online is because big giant media companies are pricing their product "money grab" instead of "good value."
6. The independent guys have development and payments down. Once they get marketing, it's over.
7. The Internet is a series of tubes.
Pixar actually brings in money.
Pixar brings in seven billion? Disney's animation division brought in money too. They were shitcanned so fast it left a dent. But see that's the workplace now:
"Hey boss I just delivered 500 times my salary to the top line!"
"Great. We want your salary too. Get out."
And yep, that's exactly what Disney did to hundreds of people for no reason.
Advertising only brings in so much.
Been runnin' TV for 50 years.
but isn't the price difference Content vs Distribution?
YouTube's audience dwarfs Disney and Pixar's combined. Someone estimated what, 60,000 new videos uploaded every day? Just a month's worth of an audience of that magnitude is immensely valuable given the obsolescence of the mass market.
is this a realistic figure?
Why not? It's just a few thousand layoffs. Disney power-rammed their animation division into a toilet for no reason, then shit $7 billion into a Tiffany champagne glass to buy Pixar. $1.5 billion is chickenshit.
Pass the croutons.
The Wii could be an outright failure.
Godzilla could be selling pennants at a Cubs game.
The PS3 will likely deliver the goods, but nevertheless is too expensive.
And the 360 isn't faring much better.
Everything sux don't it? Let's fire everyone.
You want to complain? Look at these shoes I've had them only a week and the soles are worn right through. If you complain nothing happens you might as well not bother. My back hurts and it's a really really fine day and I'm sick and tired of this...
In short, this is a huge win for Sony.
Yeah. It's an incredible achievement to win when you have total control, overwhelming market share and multi-billion dollar budgets. Kind of like a football game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and East Dirtroad Junior College.
What do fellow gamers care what race you the player really are, as long as your elf ranger or human mage can complete the task?
They don't care because the elf rangers and human mages apparently pay $15 a month to be stunlocked for hours at a time.
I honestly cannot understand the fascination with a game where the player is beset with a chronic lack of basic control over their own character.
Look at that. A new Mars icon. That's cool. Wait... Wait a minute... Is that.. is that ICE? ICE ON MARS?? THERE'S WATER ON MARS??!?!?!?!!? WE REALLY DID EVOLVE FROM THE CRUD AROUND THE LAWN SPRINKLERS BEW HEW HEW HEW HEW HEW HEW.
Yes folks, if you leave a big pile of compost outdoors long enough, it will turn into a self-focusing optical device connected to a gigantic interconnected system of neurons capable of inventing a digital watch. Thank you.
We'd compete, see, but we fired everyone and refuse to hire and train new people.
So uh, we can't compete any more. Well, unless you want to buy entire seasons of mediocre third-rate television series from the 70s. Those are on sale I hear.
that's pretty impressive.
What's even more impressive is that the U.S. has garage-sold its manufacturing base to the point where it cannot provide for its own basic needs. We have to import soap.
Soap.
We're running historic trade deficits. Essentially, we're borrowing money from other countries to import products we used to make ourselves, after firing all of the people that used to make them.
This is not a good idea(tm).
Before you laugh too heavily about China's "space seeds," you might want to remember that most American believe:
Wow, that was a reach. Do you plug your false dilemma "evolution is infallible" argument in every topic or just the political ones?
Society tends to not be very proactive unless the drive comes from authority.
Society is enormously proactive until obstructed by authority.
Let's start with the modern workplace...
As everyone knows the PS3 will be sold at a loss throughout most of its lifetime
At $600+ it's still selling at a loss? Come on.
Think about how popular a game like Mario Party would be if it were done in the genre of GTA or WWII.
Its this kind of shit that gets funded and freezes out good game ideas. Want to know why the industry sucks? There it is.
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Few expect
the advantage may go to Sony
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Will the Wii Work?
FUD FUD FUD FUD and FUD. Thank you.
E-mail is not a guaranteed-delivery medium as it is.
Red herring.
If they all do? Well, that sucks and we'll have to use something better than e-mail.
On ports that have zero traffic priority on the new and improved intarwebz no doubt. Once net neutrality goes away, the internet is destroyed. Face it.
How much of our lines were laid by subsidy?
All of them.
How dare I believe they don't spend their every waking minute trying to make the internet unnavigable and useless.
Why should the Internet change at all from the current structure? Net neutraility is fair. Leave it alone.
I'm sure you didn't mean to say that our network was built with tax money, since it wasn't.
Oh yes it was. Not only did government build most of the infrastructure in the 1950s, but most large corporations pay no taxes, so yeah, it was paid for by taxpayers, twice.
Also, that's an interesting political theory you have there, that when a company offers shares to the public, the government should be granted de facto control of that company.
No. Because it is a publically traded corporation, Time Warner is subject to a massive list of (oh noes!) government regulations. You said Time Warner was a "private company," which it isn't.