Why should I pay SOCCAN [or whatever] money for DVD-Rs that I use to backup my HD with For the same reason that here in canada (and particularly in quebec) we pay a taxes that should be used to repair road infrastructure, but those taxes not used at 100% for that (I think of the fuel, license and vehicle levy). The only difference here is that you know exactly what this levy is used for.
I think we should force M$ to sell stripped down versions of windows, without any GUI... I'd like to replace windows UI with KDE. While I'm waiting I use a stripped down version of windows without KERNEL.EXE which I replaced by *nix. Everythink works fine.
At least I had the choice of another OS.
Sh**, there are no games on *nix... Do you mean I'll have to replace my gaming pc with a gaming console ? Xbox... uuuuuuuuuh.... not sure... Does IE comes with the Xbox ???
Plus imho Tomcat is a pain in the ass to configure, and you gotta keep javac'ing, and so on. Just give me a language where I can throw in a little bit of code in the middle of a webpage, in the regular web directory, and be done with it.
well... You think that tomcat is a pain to configure ???...
I've bad news for you... Perhaps you did not find the right job for you...
By the way, you don't need to do any javac if you're working with jsp... tomcat do it for you.
OH... Perhaps you're talking about TOMCAT Compilation !... You mean you did'nt manage to compile tomcat ???...
enough insults...
I AM a developper, I started programming at 12 in basic on C64, continued at 14 in Turbo Pascal, at 15 in Assembly, at 16 in C/assembly, at 19 I was continuing with C++ / C and teaching C++ to my university teachers... I got my job at Alcatel at 22 as a software Engineer and worked for 4 years onto big expert systems written in Lisp OO (CLOS)...
Now, I'm working onto other expert systems in north America. Those systems are written in C/ C++ AND java... I work 80% of my time in Java, 20% in C++...
I'm sorry to say : if you only know C++, YOU are the "crap programmer", not me...
The real programmer knows when it is time to do his job in C++, when it is time to do it in PERL, in PHP, and when it is time to forget all the past and go ahead with JAVA like languages...
You like C++ ? I like it too... But stop saying Java programmers are "crap"... I've seen a lot more good modeled programs in Java that I've saw in C/C++...
we developped a SQLRepository object which stores sql code and definitions in an xml file...
This file can be packaged together with the jar or an external url... It could be possible to transfert it via secured https to prevent the user to see db structure...
I also feel disgusting this kind of think...
We're comming back to that old time when Robin Hood was necessary:)
RIAA is taking hard earned bucks from the single mother of a young child, takes 95% of this money and turns backs 5% to artists who don't know what to do with all the money they already have.
And don't forget all this is decided by a private company and backed by the government...
DISGUSTING!
I think that isps should have some filtering rules against spam, and close all incomming port of clients by default...
User would have the choice to open theses ports and change spam rules by themselves, using a web page at ISP.
At least, most common users will be protected and will not even see any problem with this, and those that need some server (web, irc, ssh, anything in fact) will be able to do it without any problem...
I'd like to see these feature at my isp (videotron)
for now, and to stop a problem concerning "code red" hits, Videotron closes port 80... I had to put my apache server on port 8080, which I hate.
I'm also wondering why they do not put hardware firewalls on build-in ethernet adapter that we find in most PCs now... This firewall would block anything incomming, and could be configurable through a local web page or bios...
The internet is to much opened... Don't forget, when you buy a car, you don't want every one to get into it... When you buy a house, you don't want anyone to get into your kitchen and cook his eggs...
Private internet should be "locked" by default, and only the owner of the hardware should be able to open it...
I think it is easy to do, and should be done for our web safety !
common...
did you ever tried it ??? Appart from code you must do in release 1.1 to get things work, which obviously pose problems when the bug is fixed, I never ever had any problem executing old classes onto earlier JDKs... And I code since 5 years in Java now...
The problem you are saying are those of PHP or Perl, not Java... In PHP you have to redo all your work when a new version comes out...
I never had this problem in JDKs...
No problem...
I'm just a eternal linux / java supporter and i HATE those one who prefer closed source like.NET and all microsoft stuff... I just love Java because when something goes wrong (yes it does indeed) I can go and browse the Java sources (they are almost all there... You can look at the source of StringTokenizer and understand why it is going wrong)
At work, I use Netbeans on windows because I have no choice, it's the OS I was given and I have to use it... I just managed to get a more "unix like" OS using cygwin + XFree, and I must admit Winblows is much funier with it:)... At least I can write my java scripts in SH, test them on windows before putting them on *nix.
If only windows did not hang with numerous stupid issues (like processes taking 100% CPU which force a full shutdown once a week)
So sorry we played the "dogs eat dogs" game on these posts, but your post looked SOOOO serious...
I did'nt notice I had to take it to second degree ! I apologise for this.
I just met so many people who were serious saying what you just said that it put me out of my mind.... Some people at work even question the use of Java and I had just a discussion about it with a colleague when I posted my response... I was just passing my nerves...
Well, can we forget it and go onto a new base ?
(PS: thanks for your critics on my music... I thought no one would ever ever listen to it;);) )
We use CVS pserver on Tru64 for our source control. We used to code with Visual Age, but it was poorly connected with CVS... Si we tried Netbeans... And we use it since 2 years now... We saved 3500$ per year in VA licensing!... Netbeans is now fully supported ide... It has still some bugs and minor issues, but none that destroy our work or pose a great problem (like it was the case in VA)
so... Netbeans + jakarta ant + CVS = winner for portable applications
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blam...
I wonder what kind of java developper you are to even argue about java portability.
Java IS portable. You can just download tomcat binaries and KNOW it will work on any OS with the proper jre....
I'm developping java applications for AIX, DIGITAL UNIX, Tru64, Solaris, LINUX
I'm doing this on Netbeans (a java ide) on windows and executing them on their target os without any problem.
So stop talking of what you don't know trying to be funny...
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I think we should force M$ to sell stripped down versions of windows, without any GUI...
... uuuuuuuuuh.... not sure...
I'd like to replace windows UI with KDE.
While I'm waiting I use a stripped down version of windows without KERNEL.EXE which I replaced by *nix. Everythink works fine.
At least I had the choice of another OS.
Sh**, there are no games on *nix... Do you mean I'll have to replace my gaming pc with a gaming console ? Xbox
Does IE comes with the Xbox ???
Plus imho Tomcat is a pain in the ass to configure, and you gotta keep javac'ing, and so on. Just give me a language where I can throw in a little bit of code in the middle of a webpage, in the regular web directory, and be done with it. ...
...
... tomcat do it for you.
... You mean you did'nt manage to compile tomcat ???...
...
./configure ...
well... You think that tomcat is a pain to configure ???
I've bad news for you... Perhaps you did not find the right job for you
By the way, you don't need to do any javac if you're working with jsp
OH... Perhaps you're talking about TOMCAT Compilation !
Okay... keep on trying
Hint: there's no
enough insults... I AM a developper, I started programming at 12 in basic on C64, continued at 14 in Turbo Pascal, at 15 in Assembly, at 16 in C/assembly, at 19 I was continuing with C++ / C and teaching C++ to my university teachers... I got my job at Alcatel at 22 as a software Engineer and worked for 4 years onto big expert systems written in Lisp OO (CLOS)... Now, I'm working onto other expert systems in north America. Those systems are written in C/ C++ AND java... I work 80% of my time in Java, 20% in C++... I'm sorry to say : if you only know C++, YOU are the "crap programmer", not me... The real programmer knows when it is time to do his job in C++, when it is time to do it in PERL, in PHP, and when it is time to forget all the past and go ahead with JAVA like languages... You like C++ ? I like it too... But stop saying Java programmers are "crap"... I've seen a lot more good modeled programs in Java that I've saw in C/C++...
we developped a SQLRepository object which stores sql code and definitions in an xml file... This file can be packaged together with the jar or an external url... It could be possible to transfert it via secured https to prevent the user to see db structure...
I also feel disgusting this kind of think... We're comming back to that old time when Robin Hood was necessary :)
RIAA is taking hard earned bucks from the single mother of a young child, takes 95% of this money and turns backs 5% to artists who don't know what to do with all the money they already have.
And don't forget all this is decided by a private company and backed by the government...
DISGUSTING!
I think that isps should have some filtering rules against spam, and close all incomming port of clients by default... User would have the choice to open theses ports and change spam rules by themselves, using a web page at ISP. At least, most common users will be protected and will not even see any problem with this, and those that need some server (web, irc, ssh, anything in fact) will be able to do it without any problem... I'd like to see these feature at my isp (videotron) for now, and to stop a problem concerning "code red" hits, Videotron closes port 80... I had to put my apache server on port 8080, which I hate. I'm also wondering why they do not put hardware firewalls on build-in ethernet adapter that we find in most PCs now... This firewall would block anything incomming, and could be configurable through a local web page or bios... The internet is to much opened... Don't forget, when you buy a car, you don't want every one to get into it... When you buy a house, you don't want anyone to get into your kitchen and cook his eggs... Private internet should be "locked" by default, and only the owner of the hardware should be able to open it... I think it is easy to do, and should be done for our web safety !
common... did you ever tried it ??? Appart from code you must do in release 1.1 to get things work, which obviously pose problems when the bug is fixed, I never ever had any problem executing old classes onto earlier JDKs ... And I code since 5 years in Java now...
The problem you are saying are those of PHP or Perl, not Java ... In PHP you have to redo all your work when a new version comes out...
I never had this problem in JDKs...
No problem... I'm just a eternal linux / java supporter and i HATE those one who prefer closed source like .NET and all microsoft stuff... I just love Java because when something goes wrong (yes it does indeed) I can go and browse the Java sources (they are almost all there... You can look at the source of StringTokenizer and understand why it is going wrong)
At work, I use Netbeans on windows because I have no choice, it's the OS I was given and I have to use it... I just managed to get a more "unix like" OS using cygwin + XFree, and I must admit Winblows is much funier with it :)... At least I can write my java scripts in SH, test them on windows before putting them on *nix.
If only windows did not hang with numerous stupid issues (like processes taking 100% CPU which force a full shutdown once a week)
So sorry we played the "dogs eat dogs" game on these posts, but your post looked SOOOO serious...
I did'nt notice I had to take it to second degree ! I apologise for this.
I just met so many people who were serious saying what you just said that it put me out of my mind.... Some people at work even question the use of Java and I had just a discussion about it with a colleague when I posted my response... I was just passing my nerves...
Well, can we forget it and go onto a new base ?
(PS: thanks for your critics on my music... I thought no one would ever ever listen to it ;) ;) )
Yes, you can do it.
We use CVS pserver on Tru64 for our source control. We used to code with Visual Age, but it was poorly connected with CVS... Si we tried Netbeans... And we use it since 2 years now... We saved 3500$ per year in VA licensing!... Netbeans is now fully supported ide... It has still some bugs and minor issues, but none that destroy our work or pose a great problem (like it was the case in VA)
so... Netbeans + jakarta ant + CVS = winner for portable applications
blam... I wonder what kind of java developper you are to even argue about java portability. Java IS portable. You can just download tomcat binaries and KNOW it will work on any OS with the proper jre.... I'm developping java applications for AIX, DIGITAL UNIX, Tru64, Solaris, LINUX I'm doing this on Netbeans (a java ide) on windows and executing them on their target os without any problem. So stop talking of what you don't know trying to be funny...