I can't tell if you're trolling or not. I have never held a job where I wasn't doing some kind of programming, and I only was a programmer by job title for about a year and a half. Most of the time I was writing code in C, fortran, and scripting languages to help me with the automatable or problem solving parts of various jobs.
The fact that I grew up peeking and poking the hell out of my early commodore and apple computers certainly helped. I think the paradigm of desktop computer went away from that because in the 80s and 90s the bulk of the workforce had never used a computer and so it became the glorified typewriter, reinforced by the way you worked with the MS and apple machines (ie, no longer was the user interface also the programming interface).
But any of the people (none of whom were programmers) I spent years working with that were doing simulation on Sun and SGI machines quickly learned at the very least c-shell scripting along with grep/sed/awk and then perl so that they could do more of their job and less of the data reduction tasks. There should always be protocol for the area to which you refer, but I'm talking about something else entirely.
The point is that the usefulness of knowing how to program goes far beyond the commercial and corporate software development worlds.
I think the biggest change is that people in many fields will be using programming as a tool in their non-programming job. This is already the case, but it is largely informal. Computers as a job tool for everyone are going to move far beyond the office suite, and kids who don't know how to program are going to be less able to compete and contribute in general.
Unsatisfying blurb on fosters site. A regolith dome over a inflatable original structure. It makes good sense, but the hype should be more about the fact that its a manned moon base. For some reason it reminds me of all the press gherry got for using "aerospace manufacturing techniques" for the skin on the Bilbao Guggenheim and then again for the Disney center. Architecture sucks.
The article calls the resulting fuel "diesel" a couple of times. This apparently is bio diesel, using an old industrial process and then a new catalyst (I'm betting that the ip for the catalyst will be owned by bp) to convert the output of the old process into the fuel.
On the other hand genetics do effect the brain. My layman's thinking is that genetics effect all of our organs, bones, sinew, muscle, etc. why would the brain be any different. So: would it not be fair to say that there may be a possibility for the brain to correlate in myriad ways to myriad genetic bits? To try to use aspects of that as a reason behind law or social policy institutionally is the trouble in my mind. But to try to understand complexities of brain and behavior can still be a rewarding pursuit.
I am a math educator and do notice some difference between boys an girls, but also that there are girls who have a typical "boy" attitude and vice versa. I believe that any categorization would have to be very fine grained to be any help to "bin" and that girl vs boy would not be right. But that if one was able to have 5 categories in math based on increased understanding of learning styles, some would be weighted towards gender.
So there is a science to education and having a complex field summarized in a sentence does not make the article a troll.
Test scores have a huge filter. Since at least the 70s/80s that filter has been widely studied and debated. The only thing op used occams razor for was to cut up his lines of meth.
Interesting. My jobs then paid twice minimum wage. At Michigan tech now you could make it working at twice min wage, but yes it's harder. There are states where school is cheaper than that though. of course this doesn't change the point that i may not be a good value exchange. But I think it's better and just as manageable to get the 4 year ba than the 1 or 2 year associates. Perhaps a combo is the best way...
I use speed test and find that my speeds with AT&T and wifi at home (century link DSL) both give 4.5 Mbps. I don't use it for much more than streaming and surfing and am happy with it. What's interesting is that the table shows far worse performance for both which makes me question how accurate speed test is.
Have things changed so much in education that this is astounding? I went to va tech (in state) and paid for it and living out of summer job cash as did most of the other engineering students with whom I attended in the late eighties (cool story bro) (tuition was like $2500 per year iirc). Even if the tuition costs have tripled I can't imagine that it's that hard to live of the economy or summer in more lucrative places to save ahead. Va tech at the time was a top twenty overall engineering school.... Unm now is not more expensive than that for undergrad so if you go to public in state schools it's easy and cheap to get bs degrees from four year colleges in the us (and yes, it's hard not to see that and chuckle). With any of those programs you get out of it what you put in to it, as with any degree. I am not promoting four year degrees as necessary or good value inherently, but do intend to compare $3000 for an associate's degree with $10000 for a BS as in favor of the BS for students wanting to be in technical fields and pursue knowledge as sport.
Hmmm.... Right. What is now called 6 will be called 5. So we will end up with more light in the morning. Doh. I was trying to correct the parent who said we are on est now.
IIRC EST is eastern standard time. We are cyrrently still on daylight savings time (EDT). I like to think of it as "dumb time" is standard time, and "smart time" is daylight savings time. Though dumb time is nice for the 4 or so months we still use it otherwise the sun is completely down before 5:00 pm.
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so palmOS then?
I want one so bad that I'd buy a Mahindra if they could actually get them imported.
Yeah. I'd buy the Taj Mahauler in a heartbeat. Or a small diesel hybrid pickup.
I can't tell if you're trolling or not. I have never held a job where I wasn't doing some kind of programming, and I only was a programmer by job title for about a year and a half. Most of the time I was writing code in C, fortran, and scripting languages to help me with the automatable or problem solving parts of various jobs.
The fact that I grew up peeking and poking the hell out of my early commodore and apple computers certainly helped. I think the paradigm of desktop computer went away from that because in the 80s and 90s the bulk of the workforce had never used a computer and so it became the glorified typewriter, reinforced by the way you worked with the MS and apple machines (ie, no longer was the user interface also the programming interface).
But any of the people (none of whom were programmers) I spent years working with that were doing simulation on Sun and SGI machines quickly learned at the very least c-shell scripting along with grep/sed/awk and then perl so that they could do more of their job and less of the data reduction tasks. There should always be protocol for the area to which you refer, but I'm talking about something else entirely.
The point is that the usefulness of knowing how to program goes far beyond the commercial and corporate software development worlds.
I think the biggest change is that people in many fields will be using programming as a tool in their non-programming job. This is already the case, but it is largely informal. Computers as a job tool for everyone are going to move far beyond the office suite, and kids who don't know how to program are going to be less able to compete and contribute in general.
Unsatisfying blurb on fosters site. A regolith dome over a inflatable original structure. It makes good sense, but the hype should be more about the fact that its a manned moon base. For some reason it reminds me of all the press gherry got for using "aerospace manufacturing techniques" for the skin on the Bilbao Guggenheim and then again for the Disney center. Architecture sucks.
Getting the printer up there is the trick. But perhaps I'll go rtfa ....
Try the spatula hut ... better deals and salespeople who really know their stuff.
You can just wish you had a million wishes and problem solved.
The article calls the resulting fuel "diesel" a couple of times. This apparently is bio diesel, using an old industrial process and then a new catalyst (I'm betting that the ip for the catalyst will be owned by bp) to convert the output of the old process into the fuel.
Yes.
On the other hand genetics do effect the brain. My layman's thinking is that genetics effect all of our organs, bones, sinew, muscle, etc. why would the brain be any different. So: would it not be fair to say that there may be a possibility for the brain to correlate in myriad ways to myriad genetic bits? To try to use aspects of that as a reason behind law or social policy institutionally is the trouble in my mind. But to try to understand complexities of brain and behavior can still be a rewarding pursuit.
I am a math educator and do notice some difference between boys an girls, but also that there are girls who have a typical "boy" attitude and vice versa. I believe that any categorization would have to be very fine grained to be any help to "bin" and that girl vs boy would not be right. But that if one was able to have 5 categories in math based on increased understanding of learning styles, some would be weighted towards gender.
So there is a science to education and having a complex field summarized in a sentence does not make the article a troll.
Test scores have a huge filter. Since at least the 70s/80s that filter has been widely studied and debated. The only thing op used occams razor for was to cut up his lines of meth.
That Canadian calendar is confusing.
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Interesting. My jobs then paid twice minimum wage. At Michigan tech now you could make it working at twice min wage, but yes it's harder. There are states where school is cheaper than that though. of course this doesn't change the point that i may not be a good value exchange. But I think it's better and just as manageable to get the 4 year ba than the 1 or 2 year associates. Perhaps a combo is the best way ...
Yes. How do I measure this? (I know I know, here's my geek card)
I use speed test and find that my speeds with AT&T and wifi at home (century link DSL) both give 4.5 Mbps. I don't use it for much more than streaming and surfing and am happy with it. What's interesting is that the table shows far worse performance for both which makes me question how accurate speed test is.
I posted above but with respect to state schools it not. I witness thousands do it every year in my city of half a million.
Have things changed so much in education that this is astounding? I went to va tech (in state) and paid for it and living out of summer job cash as did most of the other engineering students with whom I attended in the late eighties (cool story bro) (tuition was like $2500 per year iirc). Even if the tuition costs have tripled I can't imagine that it's that hard to live of the economy or summer in more lucrative places to save ahead. Va tech at the time was a top twenty overall engineering school .... Unm now is not more expensive than that for undergrad so if you go to public in state schools it's easy and cheap to get bs degrees from four year colleges in the us (and yes, it's hard not to see that and chuckle). With any of those programs you get out of it what you put in to it, as with any degree. I am not promoting four year degrees as necessary or good value inherently, but do intend to compare $3000 for an associate's degree with $10000 for a BS as in favor of the BS for students wanting to be in technical fields and pursue knowledge as sport.
Hmmm .... Right. What is now called 6 will be called 5. So we will end up with more light in the morning. Doh. I was trying to correct the parent who said we are on est now.
IIRC EST is eastern standard time. We are cyrrently still on daylight savings time (EDT). I like to think of it as "dumb time" is standard time, and "smart time" is daylight savings time. Though dumb time is nice for the 4 or so months we still use it otherwise the sun is completely down before 5:00 pm.
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More likely it will be private enterprise, and will flag it as corporate property. Which is fine. No regulations needed.
12 years ago I was telling people that apple was the next big stock. I was a believer. 6 years ago I advised selling. Oh well.
I looked it up in my gut ... and my gut says I'm right.