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  1. "Who ARE these guys?" Well, where was IBM? on Industry Leaders Discuss Java Status Quo · · Score: 2, Informative
    I wrote this piece for Java Pro magazine and had no role in the selection of the panelists. As a reporter, I wanted to add a couple comments of my own.

    Here's the link again for those who are curious:
    http://www.ftponline.com/reports/javaone/2003/roun dtable/

    1. I have heard that Gosling says he works so much on forward-thinking projects at Sun that he'd prefer others to comment on the real-world use of Java today in industry.

    2. As for why IBM developers weren't there, all I can say is that they were invited (as they were last year, when they participated in the roundtable discussion). However, they refused to come, and indeed boycotted JavaOne entirely.

    The person who began this thread should've read further down the first page of the article: "Moderator Simon Phipps began by welcoming some new faces at the table and arching his eyebrows in surprise at the one big no-show this year: IBM's apparent boycott of JavaOne. Despite IBM's absence, they were not ignored in the ensuing conversation."

    Later during the Java Technology Achievement Awards, cosponsored by Sun and Java Pro magazine, Mark Bauhaus, vice-president of Java Web services at Sun, commented on IBM's no-show at this year's JavaOne, despite their wins at the event. Although this line didn't make it in the final report online, I heard him say, "All of the other J2EE players are here with enthusiasm: BEA, Oracle, Borland, you name it. It is too bad that one of our important partners evidently chose not to participate."

    The report on that event is here:
    http://www.ftponline.com/reports/javaone/2003/awar ds/