They've been "just doing it" a la OpenNIC, AlterNIC, etc. No suprise ICANN doesn't want to open that can of worms just yet; unless they're kicked hard, and soon, though they'll probably give.web to somebody else just to spite the folks who have been subverting the NSI / US Commerce Dept / ICANN heirarchy for a while.
PyApache is what I use, no troubles with Apache 1.3.14 and Python 1.6; hackable.
Mod_Python which is closer to mod_perl in philosophy, I think.
Mod_Snake which is kinda like the same thing only different.
The latter two projects don't offer me enough enhancements to make me switch from PyApache yet; so I haven't as much experiance with them. PyApache has the feel of a defunct project, I haven't heard of any efforts to make it work with (Apache|Python) 2.0+
Just to keep this from being completely offtopic, Obfuscated Python is possible. AMK's ARC4 in python is a good example. If you're feeling particularly evil you can do really nasty things by mixing tabs and spaces and taking advantage of the fact that indentation need not be constant throught a file (this block @ 3, next @ 5, one after that at 4, etc.)
I have an old bottle of asprin labeled "First Amendment asprin", which lists the benefits of asprin after a heart attack on the label. The FDA pissed all over the producers for mentioning non FDA approved uses on the label, and that name was one of their responses. Eventually the FDA backed down, witness the Bayer ads; but somebody gave up more than you know fighting for the right to say on the bottle "this'll help after a heart attack".
The FDA is at least in theory accountable indirectly to the people whose decisions it affects. The WHO is accountable to... who?
And if you can find the Crossman "extended arm" model so much the better. If you have a dog or two around the office there's not even any trouble about cleanup.
The easier the extensions are to add, the harder it is to do things with them that were not envisioned by the folks who designed the installation process. I don't ask that horors like my all in one static binary of a fancy python environment be easy to produce; but don't preclude the possibility in the name of ease of use. Disutils in my limited experiance with it seems like much work to little effect; I have little interest in the goals it sets out to meet and haven't given a fair look.
As for complexity; as long as it's not required where's the harm? Advanced perl melts my brain (around halfway through the camel book) but the advanced features aren't necessarily required to make functional perl code. I'm beginning to get the idea of continuations and am probably going to look at applying the stackless patches to my own customized python tomorrow just to play with it. If I can do it and not break anything, even should I decide not to use new capabilites I won't go to the effort of reverting back to stock unless there's a functionality based reason.
I can speak to fancy serial cards, though I admit and should have said that my experiance with telephony cards is next to nil. The Linux driver for every multiport serial device I looked at buying recently is either officially supported or has extensive unofficial support. I agree that 4 lines or better really would call for real hardware.
Don't underestimate the capabilities of the consumer grade stuff. I haven't tangled with those since the USR Sporster Voice was brand new and vgetty was Zyxel only (IIRC); but it gave sound as good as a direct phone to recorder connection through a professional adapter (Gentner microtel; overpriced gadget if ever there was one). It had DTMF recognition too, that worked under my limited usage.
The point I failed to articulate clearly is that there's only so much you can do to stuff real audio down this thin little straw which is a telephone line. There's little difference perceptible to the listener between ultra expensive, "Do it Right"(TM) harware on the provider's end vs. what can be hacked up on a real budget by someone who might suddenly be taken with the idea.
And just to throw a link out in support of "you can do anything in software": the generic Linux Soft Modem is educational about alternate uses for the silly winmodems... They seem less silly in this context.
vmodem or expensive (and still no real linux drivers?) dialogic board matters less than you'd think; there's still only 300Hz-3kHz available in the phone line.
What's the difference between WP DOS and everything since? WP DOS worked, dammit. Every time I tangle with some sticky stinky pile of "modern word proccessor" I resolve to hunt down a 5.25" floppy drive and see how well my copy of WP 5.1 for DOS runs in DOSEMU.
Smith & Edwards surplus in Ogden (not far from Salt Lake); mostly larger military and medical surplus, but there's literally acres of stuff to poke through and I wouldn't be suprised to find anything at all there. The main yard has got to be the better part of a square mile, pretty much evenly piled to a depth of 10 foot or better. The guy that owns the place buys missle silos and such.
My last truckload from them included everything from film projectors, a projection TV, a pair of gas chromatographs, various smaller mechanical and electric things (strip chart recorders, etc). I ran out of truck long before I ran out of stuff I wanted.
And find anything other than "WTF with florida" to talk about...
By my clock they were at least 2 minutes late cutting back from local stations, ya could hear the backpedalling all the way out in the woods... I gotta fire up the big dish and start checking the feeds.
Was recently discussing some procedures with a customer, who insisted they didn't have email. When asked how they'd got the email I just sent them, they replied "oh, that's an Outlook message".
nono, Ford and Arthur hit upon a foolproof method for extracting the Question from Arthur's subconcious... it was "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
In "Orbital Decay" by Alan Steele, a character uses a device like that. I haven't any idea whether his description of the process is accurate; the whole idea sounds like a recipie to me...
...on the other hand, there's going to be a lot of people who've never heard of slashdot before the article... the ones who can't figure out a keyboard and the higly technical process of typing the URL probably wouldn't be welcome here anyway.
it's not "microcode RAM", it's a chunk of your on-chip cache. ISTR about 80k, though it's been a while. None of the bugfixes new microcode could give me is worth shrinking the cache on my PPro's.
I must admit I've got dreams of coding faster strcmp's, though.
As of just after midnight on the 27th, my Southeastern US wal-mart told me that they had 5 left of the 37 they got but they could not sell them becuase they were under recall... said the controllers had a couple of buttons reversed.
Since I haven't heard that anywhere else, my first (paranoid) reaction is that some higher up to the nice lady I talked to has heard about the "unofficial" prices and is trying to save 'em for itself, or trying for a cut at least. I haven't been really paying attention to a game console release, so I might've missed it...
If it's true, and even a small fraction of these first units have a flaw, then what's the collector's value of an unopened first day set going to be 10 years from now? Just goes to prove that there's lotsa folks out there with more money than sense (IMHO); if there's any PS2's left in my area they'll be up on ebay tomorrow.
I din't know that when I posted my earlier comment, I read where sombody else mentioned the problem later.
But, if you can browse it, we can have it. eWatch goes to extreme lengths to defeat such measures by any normal standard, but give me the teeming millions of bored sysadmins with a perl or python interpreter, a/29 or better to their name, and some desire to do it and we can make 'em look like the pikers they are.
If everybody who frequented the site with any regularity makes a tarball of their browser cache RIGHT NOW, probably including summary database files, and we get those collected someplace we can surely reconstruct the site. In fact, how's this: Somebody whip up a program to comb your browser cache for, and save out, URL's matching a pattern. Put it on freshmeat, get a followup posted here, and I'll volunteer to at least collect the results and attempt reconstruction.
Or we could wait a few days until the site comes back on its own, at two words and 30 banner ads to the page and all new "intellicast.com"(TM)(R)(F-'em) type delivery assurance tricks.
9826 entries, 172470 cross-references, 4050 figures, 99 animated graphics, 955 live Java applets, and counting...
...which means I'm really sorry that I didn't even know the place existed until now, and that google's cache isn't going to help a lot. We're gonna hafta get archive.org or somebody similar to cough up their archives someday.
Assuming the site was such that it was feasible, anybody got a wget'ed copy or something, so we can start passing the whole site around as a tarball? I'm a lot more interested in this stuff than DeCSS.
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They've been "just doing it" a la OpenNIC, AlterNIC, etc. No suprise ICANN doesn't want to open that can of worms just yet; unless they're kicked hard, and soon, though they'll probably give .web to somebody else just to spite the folks who have been subverting the NSI / US Commerce Dept / ICANN heirarchy for a while.
PyApache is what I use, no troubles with Apache 1.3.14 and Python 1.6; hackable.
Mod_Python which is closer to mod_perl in philosophy, I think.
Mod_Snake which is kinda like the same thing only different.
The latter two projects don't offer me enough enhancements to make me switch from PyApache yet; so I haven't as much experiance with them. PyApache has the feel of a defunct project, I haven't heard of any efforts to make it work with (Apache|Python) 2.0+
Just to keep this from being completely offtopic, Obfuscated Python is possible. AMK's ARC4 in python is a good example. If you're feeling particularly evil you can do really nasty things by mixing tabs and spaces and taking advantage of the fact that indentation need not be constant throught a file (this block @ 3, next @ 5, one after that at 4, etc.)
The FDA is at least in theory accountable indirectly to the people whose decisions it affects. The WHO is accountable to ... who?
And if you can find the Crossman "extended arm" model so much the better. If you have a dog or two around the office there's not even any trouble about cleanup.
note lack of "B" word...
As for complexity; as long as it's not required where's the harm? Advanced perl melts my brain (around halfway through the camel book) but the advanced features aren't necessarily required to make functional perl code. I'm beginning to get the idea of continuations and am probably going to look at applying the stackless patches to my own customized python tomorrow just to play with it. If I can do it and not break anything, even should I decide not to use new capabilites I won't go to the effort of reverting back to stock unless there's a functionality based reason.
Don't underestimate the capabilities of the consumer grade stuff. I haven't tangled with those since the USR Sporster Voice was brand new and vgetty was Zyxel only (IIRC); but it gave sound as good as a direct phone to recorder connection through a professional adapter (Gentner microtel; overpriced gadget if ever there was one). It had DTMF recognition too, that worked under my limited usage.
The point I failed to articulate clearly is that there's only so much you can do to stuff real audio down this thin little straw which is a telephone line. There's little difference perceptible to the listener between ultra expensive, "Do it Right"(TM) harware on the provider's end vs. what can be hacked up on a real budget by someone who might suddenly be taken with the idea.
And just to throw a link out in support of "you can do anything in software": the generic Linux Soft Modem is educational about alternate uses for the silly winmodems... They seem less silly in this context.
vmodem or expensive (and still no real linux drivers?) dialogic board matters less than you'd think; there's still only 300Hz-3kHz available in the phone line.
What's the difference between WP DOS and everything since? WP DOS worked, dammit. Every time I tangle with some sticky stinky pile of "modern word proccessor" I resolve to hunt down a 5.25" floppy drive and see how well my copy of WP 5.1 for DOS runs in DOSEMU.
Not that I'm an especial fan or anything, but JWZ is still producing. Note the most recent update, 2 days ago.
My last truckload from them included everything from film projectors, a projection TV, a pair of gas chromatographs, various smaller mechanical and electric things (strip chart recorders, etc). I ran out of truck long before I ran out of stuff I wanted.
Correct, I was wrong, I shall promptly beat myself with a 2x4 for pennance... That'll learn me to spout off without checking my facts first.
not the new House, the existing House of Reps would decide, IIRC.
By my clock they were at least 2 minutes late cutting back from local stations, ya could hear the backpedalling all the way out in the woods... I gotta fire up the big dish and start checking the feeds.
Some of my boxen as of several months ago. Both the cabinet and desk are full now. Note the digital grade bungee cord.
Was recently discussing some procedures with a customer, who insisted they didn't have email. When asked how they'd got the email I just sent them, they replied "oh, that's an Outlook message".
ThinkPad configuration tools for Linux
nono, Ford and Arthur hit upon a foolproof method for extracting the Question from Arthur's subconcious... it was "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
In "Orbital Decay" by Alan Steele, a character uses a device like that. I haven't any idea whether his description of the process is accurate; the whole idea sounds like a recipie to me...
...on the other hand, there's going to be a lot of people who've never heard of slashdot before the article... the ones who can't figure out a keyboard and the higly technical process of typing the URL probably wouldn't be welcome here anyway.
I must admit I've got dreams of coding faster strcmp's, though.
Since I haven't heard that anywhere else, my first (paranoid) reaction is that some higher up to the nice lady I talked to has heard about the "unofficial" prices and is trying to save 'em for itself, or trying for a cut at least. I haven't been really paying attention to a game console release, so I might've missed it...
If it's true, and even a small fraction of these first units have a flaw, then what's the collector's value of an unopened first day set going to be 10 years from now? Just goes to prove that there's lotsa folks out there with more money than sense (IMHO); if there's any PS2's left in my area they'll be up on ebay tomorrow.
But, if you can browse it, we can have it. eWatch goes to extreme lengths to defeat such measures by any normal standard, but give me the teeming millions of bored sysadmins with a perl or python interpreter, a /29 or better to their name, and some desire to do it and we can make 'em look like the pikers they are.
If everybody who frequented the site with any regularity makes a tarball of their browser cache RIGHT NOW, probably including summary database files, and we get those collected someplace we can surely reconstruct the site. In fact, how's this: Somebody whip up a program to comb your browser cache for, and save out, URL's matching a pattern. Put it on freshmeat, get a followup posted here, and I'll volunteer to at least collect the results and attempt reconstruction.
Or we could wait a few days until the site comes back on its own, at two words and 30 banner ads to the page and all new "intellicast.com"(TM)(R)(F-'em) type delivery assurance tricks.
...which means I'm really sorry that I didn't even know the place existed until now, and that google's cache isn't going to help a lot. We're gonna hafta get archive.org or somebody similar to cough up their archives someday.
Assuming the site was such that it was feasible, anybody got a wget'ed copy or something, so we can start passing the whole site around as a tarball? I'm a lot more interested in this stuff than DeCSS.