If you find it in any way meaningful to grade madness of this scale against each other and defend one against the other, then I can only feel sorry for you and your poor grasp on reality.
But I suppose your unable to understand the irony of the poster starting his post with the words "Get real" and then lapse into raving lunacy.
Perhaps they allow it because the letter Ø tends to be included in almost all 8 bit ascii variants including the US ones. Kanji (Japanese) on the other hand does not.
I live in Norway, according to the Norwegian Citröen web pages (http://www.citroen.no/article.asp?ArticleID=2920) the C2 costs about 183700 to 231900 NOK depending on the configuration (motor size etc). My monthly paycheck is about 20000 NOK after taxes, so if I could spend all my money on the car I could pay it in 9 to 12 months. Of course since I moved out from my mothers basement quite a few years ago it would probably take a wee bit longer:-)
You are either trolling or have no real world experience above hobbyist projects at all. Neither CVS or SVN are that difficult to configure and both are targeted at professional software developers who are usually expected to be somewhat computer literate.
Most likely your simply lying through your teeth and have never tried any of these tools (source safe included), since you imply using Latex which is vastly more difficult to master than configuring CVS or SVN.
And, yes! I have used all three of these tools in a professional setting both as a single developer and in teams. It was in this order: First Source Safe, then CVS and now SVN. and every change has felt as an upgrade for the better.
IANAL but I have spoken with some of them regarding things like this.
The possibility for a patent might be severely limited now, unless they already have filed for a patent.
You cannot get a patent for publicly know thecniques, at least your not supposed to. So by giving this much details out in public, pretty much blows any patentability out of the water.
>So, put another way, few coders over 30 is stupid enough to work for a game >development outfit. That's like saying McDonald's discriminates against people who >want to make more than minimum wage or don't like getting burned by hot oil.
No, not at all.
It is like saying few people over 30 is stupid enough to work minimum wages getting burned by hot oil at McDonald's, which in my experience generally holds true. Most people over 30 working at McDonalds are either the boss or sad cases that for some reason cannot get any better job (no education etc).
This is not a case of discrimination, it is a fact of life. Young people are generally more naive and easier to exploit.
Depending on how much code they have accepted from outside sources (may be nill) then it might leave their part of the code pretty useless too, at least until they can rewrite the offending code.
Even if it is only a few percentage of the total code base, it might be interconnected and scattered all over the code and involve quite a lot of work to identify and remove/rewrite.
Analogy: What would happen to that song of yours if every third sentence had to be completely rewritten?
> Wouldn't it be neat if the new company revoked the open source license for the DB? The company owns the Copyright.
Do they really own the copyright 100%?
I'm not familiar with this special case, but in many open source projects the source code comes from lots of different authors. Unless SleepyCat actually wrote all the code themself or had everyone sign over their copyright before accepting patches, then they cannot change the license without either getting permission from all the authors or ripping out the relevant code.
This is one of the reasons it is not always simple to change licenses on big open source projects.
Discussing ethics with regards to priacy and other copyright releated questions is highly interesting. While outright piracy might not be ethical, I certainly dont think restrictive DRM systems or draconian DMCA laws are ethical either.
It might be legal for copyright holders to dictate what you can and cannot do with a product you have purchased (or licensed in legaleese) but that does not make it right!
Well this makes more sense than you previous post.
But I do not see what is the problem. Collecting data before you formulate your hypotheses does not violate the scientific method as long as it would be possible to collect more data afterwards that could possibly falsify the hypotheses.
Why would this be better? It would not be science and the only thing you would gain would be to make it easier for religious constructs like creationism/intelligent-design to pretend beeing science.
When you say this argument means no science was practiced until the renaissance, perhaps this is true?;-) After all, look at the explosion in science and technology that took place from then and until now. Surely you dont think the old way was better?
The scientific method is pretty much the definition of how you aquire science (systematic knowledge). To agree or disagree with a definition does not make much sense.
However even if a model or theory cannot be scientificly proven or disproven it might be of use anyway, for example: mathematics is in fact not a science since it is derived from axioms (fundamental concepts *belived* to be true). Even so, no scientist would deny the usefulness of mathematics;-)
>Heard of an unhandled exception? i.e. a divide by 0 error should get trapped by the >application. If the application doesn't handle it, the OS has to. I believe the >default behaviour of NT in this situation is to blue screen.
Oh, please...
NT might be a bug ridden piece of shit, but it was not designed *that* bad.
The default behaviour of NT (and also the NT derivates 2000, 2003 and XP) is to terminate the application and show a dialog box with a warning.
The only way to get NT to blue screen because of an unhandled exception, would be if the bug was in code running in kernel mode, this usually means the core parts of the OS itself and the device drivers.
This is not about open source after all but about whining how you cannot make money on code other people wrote, though on you.
Also your arguments about Trolltech excluding other toolkits show your lack of understanding how widget toolkits work and how they communicate with the underlaying hardware.
Trolltech does not in any way prevent you from running another widget toolkit on linux based equipment, the only thing that prevent you from using Gtk+ or anything else is the need to run directly on a framebuffer without X11. Trolltech has made a QT version that have this capabillity, Gtk+/FLTK has not.
>Yes, but not under the same conditions as Troll Tech; Troll Tech still retains the right to sell it under non-GPL'ed licenses.
And exactly _how_ is this is negative for open source? Care to give some examples?
BTW: This limitation is no different than all other GPL software, if you fork you have to stay GPL.
You do realise that the dual license means you can have both GPL *AND* commercial software running on QT. This would not be possible if QT was licensed as GPL only.
The only loss is for other commercial companies that are not able to grab the code and go commercial with it themself. Perhaps you work for such a company?
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Oh no, not again!
This horse has been beaten to death several times before, either you are trolling or simply very ignorant.
QT is GPL'd you are free to fork at any time, if you dont believe me go read the f***ng license yourself.
The bug trap may use no energy, but the bug certainly do.
If not the bug would be dead, and the trap does not work on dead bugs.
QED.
If you find it in any way meaningful to grade madness of this scale against each other and defend one against the other, then I can only feel sorry for you and your poor grasp on reality.
But I suppose your unable to understand the irony of the poster starting his post with the words "Get real" and then lapse into raving lunacy.
Get real?
If you consider shooting down european sattelites and threatning to cripple european economy "real options" then your mad as a hatter.
Do you have any idea what how big the EU is? Its ludicrously bloated bureaucracy probably spend more money on toilet paper than this.
Perhaps they allow it because the letter Ø tends to be included in almost all 8 bit ascii variants including the US ones. Kanji (Japanese) on the other hand does not.
Actually, I think it sounds more like the u in but.
Yes, it's real. The impact also showed up on seismic recorders http://www.astro.uio.no/ita/nyheter/ildkule06/ildk ule06.html (You can study the images in this Norwegian article from the University of Oslo).
I live in Norway, according to the Norwegian Citröen web pages (http://www.citroen.no/article.asp?ArticleID=2920) the C2 costs about 183700 to 231900 NOK depending on the configuration (motor size etc). My monthly paycheck is about 20000 NOK after taxes, so if I could spend all my money on the car I could pay it in 9 to 12 months. Of course since I moved out from my mothers basement quite a few years ago it would probably take a wee bit longer :-)
Anyone care to give numbers for other countries?
You are either trolling or have no real world experience above hobbyist projects at all. Neither CVS or SVN are that difficult to configure and both are targeted at professional software developers who are usually expected to be somewhat computer literate.
Most likely your simply lying through your teeth and have never tried any of these tools (source safe included), since you imply using Latex which is vastly more difficult to master than configuring CVS or SVN.
And, yes! I have used all three of these tools in a professional setting both as a single developer and in teams. It was in this order: First Source Safe, then CVS and now SVN. and every change has felt as an upgrade for the better.
IANAL but I have spoken with some of them regarding things like this.
The possibility for a patent might be severely limited now, unless they already have filed for a patent.
You cannot get a patent for publicly know thecniques, at least your not supposed to. So by giving this much details out in public, pretty much blows any patentability out of the water.
>So, put another way, few coders over 30 is stupid enough to work for a game
>development outfit. That's like saying McDonald's discriminates against people who
>want to make more than minimum wage or don't like getting burned by hot oil.
No, not at all.
It is like saying few people over 30 is stupid enough to work minimum wages getting burned by hot oil at McDonald's, which in my experience generally holds true. Most people over 30 working at McDonalds are either the boss or sad cases that for some reason cannot get any better job (no education etc).
This is not a case of discrimination, it is a fact of life. Young people are generally more naive and easier to exploit.
Simple dll's does not need to be registered to work.
Depending on how much code they have accepted from outside sources (may be nill) then it might leave their part of the code pretty useless too, at least until they can rewrite the offending code.
Even if it is only a few percentage of the total code base, it might be interconnected and scattered all over the code and involve quite a lot of work to identify and remove/rewrite.
Analogy: What would happen to that song of yours if every third sentence had to be completely rewritten?
> Wouldn't it be neat if the new company revoked the open source license for the DB? The company owns the Copyright.
Do they really own the copyright 100%?
I'm not familiar with this special case, but in many open source projects the source code comes from lots of different authors. Unless SleepyCat actually wrote all the code themself or had everyone sign over their copyright before accepting patches, then they cannot change the license without either getting permission from all the authors or ripping out the relevant code.
This is one of the reasons it is not always simple to change licenses on big open source projects.
You seem to be confusing law with ethics.
Legal != Ethical
Discussing ethics with regards to priacy and other copyright releated questions is highly interesting. While outright piracy might not be ethical, I certainly dont think restrictive DRM systems or draconian DMCA laws are ethical either.
It might be legal for copyright holders to dictate what you can and cannot do with a product you have purchased (or licensed in legaleese) but that does not make it right!
Legal != Ethical
Well this makes more sense than you previous post.
But I do not see what is the problem. Collecting data before you formulate your hypotheses does not violate the scientific method as long as it would be possible to collect more data afterwards that could possibly falsify the hypotheses.
Why would this be better? It would not be science and the only thing you would gain would be to make it easier for religious constructs like creationism/intelligent-design to pretend beeing science.
;-) After all, look at the explosion in science and technology that took place from then and until now. Surely you dont think the old way was better?
When you say this argument means no science was practiced until the renaissance, perhaps this is true?
The scientific method is pretty much the definition of how you aquire science (systematic knowledge). To agree or disagree with a definition does not make much sense.
;-)
However even if a model or theory cannot be scientificly proven or disproven it might be of use anyway, for example: mathematics is in fact not a science since it is derived from axioms (fundamental concepts *belived* to be true). Even so, no scientist would deny the usefulness of mathematics
>if the road is dry, the stop time will be much shorter if the wheels lock and you skid.
This is simply not true. Dynamic friction (skidding) is lower than static friction.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake4.htm
>Heard of an unhandled exception? i.e. a divide by 0 error should get trapped by the
>application. If the application doesn't handle it, the OS has to. I believe the
>default behaviour of NT in this situation is to blue screen.
Oh, please...
NT might be a bug ridden piece of shit, but it was not designed *that* bad.
The default behaviour of NT (and also the NT derivates 2000, 2003 and XP) is to terminate the application and show a dialog box with a warning.
The only way to get NT to blue screen because of an unhandled exception, would be if the bug was in code running in kernel mode, this usually means the core parts of the OS itself and the device drivers.
Aha, finally you show your true colors!
This is not about open source after all but about whining how you cannot make money on code other people wrote, though on you.
Also your arguments about Trolltech excluding other toolkits show your lack of understanding how widget toolkits work and how they communicate with the underlaying hardware.
Trolltech does not in any way prevent you from running another widget toolkit on linux based equipment, the only thing that prevent you from using Gtk+ or anything else is the need to run directly on a framebuffer without X11. Trolltech has made a QT version that have this capabillity, Gtk+/FLTK has not.
>Yes, but not under the same conditions as Troll Tech; Troll Tech still retains the right to sell it under non-GPL'ed licenses.
And exactly _how_ is this is negative for open source? Care to give some examples?
BTW: This limitation is no different than all other GPL software, if you fork you have to stay GPL.
You do realise that the dual license means you can have both GPL *AND* commercial software running on QT. This would not be possible if QT was licensed as GPL only.
The only loss is for other commercial companies that are not able to grab the code and go commercial with it themself. Perhaps you work for such a company?
Oh no, not again!
This horse has been beaten to death several times before, either you are trolling or simply very ignorant.
QT is GPL'd you are free to fork at any time, if you dont believe me go read the f***ng license yourself.
I think the selling points for digital timing devices over analog is size, price and no need for moving parts.