The problems with graphical inconstancy comes when people choose programs for their features rather than their UI and different people have different preferences.
No, the problem for UI consistancy is that there is no consistent UI 'with Linux'.
Windows has one.
Mac OS X has one.
Linux has at least 4 that I can think off off the top of my head with many applications written for them, and countless other toolkits that are less common.
Your quote illustrates the problem perfectly. You're blaming users for picking based on features they care about and ignoring the fact that users should freaking have to be concerned with making sure the app matches their theme.
Contrary to the popular Linux mantra, choices are not ALWAYS a good thing.
Right, because this is totally the same as whats happening in Libya and you've got no problem with your sense of perspective either, we really do live in a vile hell hole formally known as America where we get beaten regularly and starved as a matter of practice. Hows that hut your living in?
Thats as stupid of an argument as saying its a first amendment violation because they won't let you walk in the door and call 900 numbers for porn on their phones, but they would let you call a local number for a cab.
Your entire post is deeply flawed. The government has no responsibility to provide equal access to the Internet for you, you have the responsibility to get it on your own if you want it, somewhere else.
lot of government workers have education and experience beyond the level required for the job, and while using it aren't getting compensated for it. We get people with masters degrees applying for technician jobs that require an associates or 2 years experience.
No shit? So people who could get 'better jobs' are instead taking 'lower paying' jobs in the government... sounds to me like they just have a better perspective of the benefits of a government job.
As opposed to the employers, who want to screw employees and pay them less than they're worth?
Really? Thats not the way the free market works. They aren't worth what they think they are, thats the reality of it, and China has shown they are happy to provide manpower at a rate thats appropriate for the supply.
Its only in 'enlightened civilized' countries were workers suddenly start thinking the laws of economics don't apply to them.
Please explain how the government providing access to the internet but prohibiting accessing only these specific sites is not prohibiting speech.
Well, the explination is that you're a self-entitled spoiled brat who doesn't understand how the country works.
You are allowed to say/print/view whatever you want, but you aren't allowed to do so in my home. In MY home, you play by MY rules or you get the fuck out.
Why do you think you get to go into someone elses home and tell them what they have to do for you?
I demand that you provide free wifi access to the entire country, if you don't, if you only provide wifi access for yourself and your family or in your little area, then you're censoring my speech!!!@$!@$?
That statement is only slightly more retarded than your expectation that the government HAS to provide you with ALL available options.
The difference between not providing is this: The government simply isn't providing access to playboy.com from their network, but as has been said time and time again, they don't care if you use your cell phone to do so at home. You can get access to the 'speech' and the government doesn't care, but they aren't going to provide it too you.
But as far as the 500 word essay, read the second line I wrote and its done. If you think it needs to be longer than you need to buy yourself a cluepon. No, I'm not going to give you one and no, that doesn't mean I'm censoring you.
Summaries are assumed to be true, not opinion. Comments are assumed to be personal opinion, though they may state facts.
We assume the summaries are true because we want to use slashdot to save ourselves the time of tracking down and debunking every story on the Internet. We get annoyed when topics like this happen where its clear that its a opinionated TROLL.
We get even more pissed off when its done by someone like Taco, who through the years most of us have come to expect will have done a basic sanity check on the summary/story. We expect stupidity from kdawson and timothy, hence why half of slashdot has their stories not listed on the front page.
What has happened however is that it appears that slashdot has become completely unconcerned with presenting facts and truth and more concerned with not 'censoring' any submission and just letting the shit flow in.
I have uncensored Internet, I really don't want it, I have things to do, I use sites like slashdot to avoid having to do basically what it seems you have to now do for every slashdot story regardless of which person posted it to the front page.
you develop it on your own by living in the US(especially the south.).
Actually, you have to be pretty ignorant to be a prejudice fuck, the south has little to nothing to do with it, I know, I grew up there. But you've shown that you're very ignorant and prejudice against 'the south'.
Racism isn't a bad thing, stop acting like it is. Each race has unique attributes, strengths and weaknesses, mostly to the geographic area the people decended from.
This is FACT, it is not opinion, it is reality. You're just as ignorant for ignoring it as the prejudice fuck above.
Prejudice and HATE are bad.
Examples:
Rasicm: Black people are better at playing basketball
Prejudice: Porch monkeys are better at basketball cause they are used to swinging from the trees in the jungle.
See how one is perfectly acceptable and the other clearly isn't?
There isn't one. Just do your best to be as good to the people you meet in your life as you can.
I believe the first solution is for everyone to stop talking about racism like we do. Our children grow up prejudice because we start beating into their heads at an early age that its not okay to point out differences in people like skin color, and that we're all equal... WE AREN'T, AND THATS OKAY. We need to stop making it such a point to children, stop forcing race issues in their face as their trying to form an opinion and view of the world.
Stop making race an issue and it'll stop being such an issue, but the last bit of your post is the important part. If we all just go back to treating people the way we want to be treated the world would be much better off.
ranging from your sexual orientation and marital status to your travel and purchasing propensities.
Not really, they just know what you do online. For instance, my sister in law is regularly hit with ads relating to homosexual related subject matter.
She isn't gay, but she does have several gay friends and she does buy various gifts for them, so its easy to see how you might think that Google knows shes gay (well, we all KNOW she's gay, she just hasn't came out of the closet yet) but in reality, Google just knows that she buys things for stores that do business with association to non-standard sexual orientation.
Google doesn't care if your gay or straight, they just care about delivering you to an advertiser that you will buy from so the advertiser continues to use Google.
You're own fear that people might find out you're gay is the problem not Google.
If you're going to start with a demonstrably false statement, then you probably don't have anything of value to contribute to the discussion afterwards.
Really? So you're refering to yourself right? You must be... otherwise I presume you can show me proof that Google is not better?
Note the word I used: PROOF
Otherwise Google isn't doing anything webmasters haven't been doing since day one... just because you have no clue that its been happening doesn't change anything. Google can't log anything more than I can on my website about you, but you still use other websites, don't you?
f Microsoft or Facebook drove a van through people's neighborhoods and "accidentally" archived their emails and passwords, I'm willing to bet you'd be all over them for it.
No, not really, I'd fucking turn on encryption. I don't walk outside my front door and scream at the top of my lungs all my private information, nor does my wifi transmit in clear text, and I certainly don't login to my email without using SSL.
I get a brand new collection of data EVERY weekend more or less. I have a PC in my boat with wifi, every weekend during the summer I drive to the lake, and if I turn it on before I leave the house, I'll have a ton of crap logged when I get home, right along side GPS and Sonar data (which obviously isn't real useful on the land portion of the journey.
It gives me a great list of wifi access points I can hope on when I'm on the lake and cellular data isn't fast enough. Do I do anything with the data? No, I have other things to do that don't involve reading grandma's email or Larry Laffers emails to the other Larry about their incestuous threesomes with their sister Patty.
No, I really don't care if MS or Facebook did it because they wouldn't get anything.
And as for your signature line, theres a big difference between listening with no special equipment and using a special mic. If you stand on the street and hear me screaming, which is pretty much what wifi does, then I have no control over what you do with what you heard, nor is you standing there listening illegal. On the other hand, if you bounce a laser mic off my bedroom window to listen to my wife and I snuggling after coitus, then its another story... and you're probably already defs from her previous hour of screaming with pleasure!
Unencrypted Wifi is like screaming at the top of your lungs, its your own damn fault for not using encryption... and not using it in MULTIPLE PLACES WHERE YOU SHOULD BE like you wifi network and logging into your email. Whats next, you'll bitch the Google photographed your License plate... or the big poster you put up on the side of your house telling everyone how gay you are?
use gmail, and expect that they'll stay out of your mail boxes, your contact list, your chats, your docs? I have a bridge for you in Brooklyn.
I've yet to see one instance of where Google has used my data in a way that I find unacceptable. I hate ads in general, but I'll take a targeted add over a viagra ad any day. I'm a little sick of seeing EVE Online adverts everyone considering I have multiple accounts but thats not Googles fault is it? (No, its not Googles ad network that keeps showing them too me).
As the previous post said, when they give me even a little reason to not trust them, I'll move somewhere else, until then, yes, I trust them with my data. I trust them to be better at backing up my data than I am actually, and its something I do professionally as part of my employment. I know how much effort goes into a working backup plan in order for it to be effective and not just something that you think works right up until you need it too.
I could give a shit what the government knows about me. I don't live in Libya, I live in the USA, and regardless of how nutty you are and how much you think the government is out to get you, they really don't give a fuck about you. You really aren't that special. They have plenty of people to go after that are far more useful to track than me. Your paranoia isn't reality, which is why I don't care if Google has my data.
If the government really wants to read my email, let them, I'm sure they'll find the ones to my wife boring enough that they won't be reading it for long.
I'll bet $100 Bill Gates was born at least 20 years before you and somewhere between 10 and 15 before Linux (too lazy to look for exact dates), so Microsoft came first.
is Canonical more into serving their own interests than creating a great Linux distro?"
Thats a fucking retarded statement. Canonical is in business selling Linux, making a great Linux distro IS there business even if you're too much of a pickle smoking fanboy to realize that.
If you think Ubuntu sucks and your distro is far superior, you qualify as a complete and total idiot, and a fanboy too boot.
Its not THAT much different, so you're really starting to argue user preference and you've left the realm of qualitative measurements and went to pure opinion, in which case your statement doesn't matter to anyone anywhere as... you're nothing more than a fanboy fawning over your beau rather than discussing the merits or shortcomings of an OS.
The only people who think Ubuntu suck or its 'the bad Linux' are fanboys. Any sort of sane person with a normal amount of socializing can easily discuss Ubuntu in context with other distros without going over the edge because they did a few things that they particularly don't like.
Ubuntu does all Linux many good deeds. I'm sorry if you don't like it because its popular, you're just an idiot. I'm sorry if you don't like it because they are doing things to make money, you're just an idiot too stupid to not know you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you, but thats pretty much the typical OSS zealot anyway.
Finally: CmdrTaco - STOP LETTING KDAWSON AND TIMOTHY POST STORIES USING YOUR ACCOUNT. There was a time when you wouldn't have posted such retarded trolls to the front page, and you wouldn't have given them the clicks for what is a blatent attempt to gain page views by inciting the raging mob of fanboys. When did you guys start officially taking slashvertisments? Hell, I'm willing to pay to get slashdotted too, how much?
Freaking awesome, I knew writing an OS for an ATmega chip instead of just using FreeRTOS would make me more manly. Now I have confirmation, my wife is so gonna do me tonight.
Some suggest rebooting to force an fsck occasionally, to ensure the filesystems are in consistent order
Someone who doesn't trust the kernel and fs to be sane under normal operations is probably using the wrong kernel/OS or file system, they just may not be to the point where they realize it yet.
If you think you need to run fsck on a clean FS, you need to realize you aren't an admin, just a guy with root.
To clear out memory fragmentation and (horrors!) kernel memory leaks and stale kmallocs().
Again, 1995 called, they want their broken ass kernel back. Memory fragmentation is simple to fix at runtime on pretty much any hardware platform with an MMU... so everything Linux runs on.
Kernel memory leaks and what have you indicate you've picked a broken OS to use, not that reboots are needed.
Are you sure you aren't talking about Windows? I switched to FreeBSD from Linux years ago but I find it hard to believe you're running into memory issues due to fragmentation or kernel leaks now days. People use it in production, it can't be that bad... RIGHT?
(why are clueless people deleting things in/boot?)
Better question, why the fuck wasn't / (and/boot) mounted read only in the first place?
You're not going to upgrade from 2.6.n to 2.6.(n+1) by reloading modules.
No, you wouldn't do that with Linux, Linux has absolutely 0 concern about binary compatibility, it is in fact almost something they strive to avoid.
However, you can do it pretty easy on a lot of commercial unixes and on the *BSDs as well in most cases. A properly designed kernel shouldn't be changing that often in ways that are going to break modules unless the kernel authurs don't give a flying fuck about anyone elses work, hence why you wouldn't do it with Linux but on Solaris, which they maintain binary compat specifically for this sort of thing, well... that would be an entirely different ball game.
Same for Windows for that matter, although most people dont' have any clue that its possible.
Uptime numbers are just another stupid dick-measuring contest.
True, but they are an indication of an admins ability to keep the machine functioning as well. Gold medals in the Olympics are a dick measurement as well, stop being a bitch about it just because yours is small.
Kernel updates and some system patches take reboots too.
Kernel patches need a reboot, full stop. System patches do not, a libc update would require pretty much all your services restarted to take advantage of it, but do they need to? If you install a patch to libc to fix a timezone issue for Botswana and you'll never deal with that timezone... and then you reboot your box because of it, you're just a fucking idiot, not a good admin. You introduced a change to a stable system for no reason, horrible horrible engineering practice.
If you're not rebooting, you're not current.
So you're calling uptime a dick swinging contest, but you don't think this statement isn't the exact same thing? I'm not sure about whatever OSes you use, but none of the UNIX machines I admin have had a remote kernel exploit in years, everything else can be handled by applications except for some weird privilege escalation bugs, but again, I haven't seen one of those in years. Do I not have new kernel features by running older kernels? Nope, I don't, but does it MATTER if I don't have those features? I don't upgrade because someone released a patch. I upgrade because I have a reason, it results in FAR FAR less headaches when you need your machines to be reliable rather than bleeding edge.
You're upgrading because you think 'omg must be current' which is just as ignorant as caring about uptime without considering anything else.
You cannot fsck a mounted slash. fsck always finds something wrong on the filesystems when I *do* reboot after a year of uptime.
The OS you are referring to is broken in multiple ways. First off, what OS can't fsck the root partition while mounted? Mine both do it by default, about 30 seconds after the boot process is more or less complete. I can certainly do it manually by hand after boot as well. If your machines are always corrupt after a years uptime with a clean filesystem then you definitely need to get your broken ass OS fixed. Don't know which one you're referring too, but its clearly broken if you're getting disk corruption during normal runtime. There is no way that it is acceptable to have a unclean root after a clean shutdown, I suggest you pick another OS or an FS on your OS that isn't broken.
This business of rebooting a server everytime there is an issue is a sign of a larger problem. There are more options available for fixing problems on *nix systems, that's just the way it is. You don't always *need* a reboot to fix things, but sometimes you do (stuck tape drives, zombie processes, crappy iscsi software, etc).
Zombie processes and stuck tape drives cause you to need to reboot? Seriously? Zombie processes? 1995 called, they want their Linux back... WTF kind of tape drives are you using that can't be fully reset from the OS? Hell, power cycle them, rescan the scsi bus and move on if you don't know how to fix your tape drives. ISCSI problems? Uhm, restart the server process or force an umount if the hung machine is the client. If your kernel is broken then it would be a bigger issue, but here again, you're using a broken/buggy OS and its not something that would happen in my shop.
To the point: Everything you've said in your post makes it clear you are in no way a professional admin. You appear to have thrown some random modern buzzwords in with what I would say was true... if I were running Linux in 1995. Now I don't run Linux today, I use other UNIXs so I can't say that it isn't that shitty any more, but I'm pretty sure its not, and I know the *BSDs and Solaris act nothing like you describe. So what fucked up UNIX are you dealing with that makes you reboot so often? I want to make sure I get no where near it.
The first thing I learned about unix was 'you never reboot it'.
The second major thing I learned about big UNIX hardware is because the shit is so finicky that rebooting may be its death. I learned that day, after watching a sysadmin argue with a Sun tech for literally an hour or more that it shouldn't be rebooted... that sometimes the hardware doesn't work on the next boot, as was the case for this multimillion dollar Sun server that now decided it no longer had anything on boot flash so it was unable to boot... because the Sun tech insisted he reboot for a kernel patch that had no relation to the problem at all.
I don't know any UNIX admin who thinks they should reboot their server, ever. I know unix admins that will patch everything on the system and restart daemons even if they have to apply patches one file at a time (patch cluster failing to install on its own for instance), I've heard stories about admins patching binary code in memory JUST to keep a system up and running. UNIX admins take their work more seriously than anyone I know, including just about every Doctor I met.
I know plenty of people who run Linux who reboot their machines for fun. I know plenty of Windows admins who reboot there servers at the first sign of failure.
UNIX admins on the other hand login and find the problem, fix the problem, and let the machine live.
For those saying 'OMG I DON'T WANT TO RUN SOFTWARE THAT OLD!!!!'... well then you aren't an admin either, you learn rather quickly that when it ain't broke, don't fuck with it. Kernel flaws that can't be mitigated in application daemons or firewalls are pretty freaking rare so theres almost no weight what so ever behind that, pretty much every exploit that exists is a userland exploit, not kernel so unless you have a new feature that you need in the kernel you rarely HAVE to screw with it now days with KLMs and such, hell, I haven't even rebooted recent FreeBSD builds due to kernel changes, just rebuild and reload the KLM in most cases, I'm certain FreeBSD isn't unique in this ability.
You know what you call someone that thinks you reboot a server to solve problems? You call them a fucking Windows USER. Not an admin, and most certainly not a UNIX admin.
If you think rebooting to fix an unknown problem is a good idea its because you don't know what you're doing. I don't mean that to be malicious, its just the reality of it. An intelligent admin doesn't do shit until he/she knows whats going on.
And with great sadness it brings me to my final duty as a Geek with a conscious... CmdrTaco your geek card is hereby revoked. You have exceeded your 'retarded idiots posted to the front page' quota by at least 3 in the last month. This one just sends it over the top. You are no longer considered a geek. All privileges associated with your geek card are also hereby revoked.
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The problems with graphical inconstancy comes when people choose programs for their features rather than their UI and different people have different preferences.
No, the problem for UI consistancy is that there is no consistent UI 'with Linux'.
Windows has one.
Mac OS X has one.
Linux has at least 4 that I can think off off the top of my head with many applications written for them, and countless other toolkits that are less common.
Your quote illustrates the problem perfectly. You're blaming users for picking based on features they care about and ignoring the fact that users should freaking have to be concerned with making sure the app matches their theme.
Contrary to the popular Linux mantra, choices are not ALWAYS a good thing.
You should lookup the word 'practical'
The site also has nothing to do with the union itself and would provide no useful way to contact the rep.
Its for political bitching about whats going on, its not something useful. Its slashdot for union workers.
Uhm, so you want them to say a 'Whitelist that has a first use exemption'?
Its a whitelist. Without the first use exemption in consideration, all sites are blocked unless they get approved. Thats a whitelist.
Right, because this is totally the same as whats happening in Libya and you've got no problem with your sense of perspective either, we really do live in a vile hell hole formally known as America where we get beaten regularly and starved as a matter of practice. Hows that hut your living in?
Thats as stupid of an argument as saying its a first amendment violation because they won't let you walk in the door and call 900 numbers for porn on their phones, but they would let you call a local number for a cab.
Your entire post is deeply flawed. The government has no responsibility to provide equal access to the Internet for you, you have the responsibility to get it on your own if you want it, somewhere else.
These aren't hourly employees, there is no OSHA mandated break.
lot of government workers have education and experience beyond the level required for the job, and while using it aren't getting compensated for it. We get people with masters degrees applying for technician jobs that require an associates or 2 years experience.
No shit? So people who could get 'better jobs' are instead taking 'lower paying' jobs in the government ... sounds to me like they just have a better perspective of the benefits of a government job.
As opposed to the employers, who want to screw employees and pay them less than they're worth?
Really? Thats not the way the free market works. They aren't worth what they think they are, thats the reality of it, and China has shown they are happy to provide manpower at a rate thats appropriate for the supply.
Its only in 'enlightened civilized' countries were workers suddenly start thinking the laws of economics don't apply to them.
Please explain how the government providing access to the internet but prohibiting accessing only these specific sites is not prohibiting speech.
Well, the explination is that you're a self-entitled spoiled brat who doesn't understand how the country works.
You are allowed to say/print/view whatever you want, but you aren't allowed to do so in my home. In MY home, you play by MY rules or you get the fuck out.
Why do you think you get to go into someone elses home and tell them what they have to do for you?
I demand that you provide free wifi access to the entire country, if you don't, if you only provide wifi access for yourself and your family or in your little area, then you're censoring my speech!!!@$!@$?
That statement is only slightly more retarded than your expectation that the government HAS to provide you with ALL available options.
The difference between not providing is this: The government simply isn't providing access to playboy.com from their network, but as has been said time and time again, they don't care if you use your cell phone to do so at home. You can get access to the 'speech' and the government doesn't care, but they aren't going to provide it too you.
But as far as the 500 word essay, read the second line I wrote and its done. If you think it needs to be longer than you need to buy yourself a cluepon. No, I'm not going to give you one and no, that doesn't mean I'm censoring you.
Summaries are assumed to be true, not opinion. Comments are assumed to be personal opinion, though they may state facts.
We assume the summaries are true because we want to use slashdot to save ourselves the time of tracking down and debunking every story on the Internet. We get annoyed when topics like this happen where its clear that its a opinionated TROLL.
We get even more pissed off when its done by someone like Taco, who through the years most of us have come to expect will have done a basic sanity check on the summary/story. We expect stupidity from kdawson and timothy, hence why half of slashdot has their stories not listed on the front page.
What has happened however is that it appears that slashdot has become completely unconcerned with presenting facts and truth and more concerned with not 'censoring' any submission and just letting the shit flow in.
I have uncensored Internet, I really don't want it, I have things to do, I use sites like slashdot to avoid having to do basically what it seems you have to now do for every slashdot story regardless of which person posted it to the front page.
you develop it on your own by living in the US(especially the south.).
Actually, you have to be pretty ignorant to be a prejudice fuck, the south has little to nothing to do with it, I know, I grew up there. But you've shown that you're very ignorant and prejudice against 'the south'.
Racism isn't a bad thing, stop acting like it is. Each race has unique attributes, strengths and weaknesses, mostly to the geographic area the people decended from.
This is FACT, it is not opinion, it is reality. You're just as ignorant for ignoring it as the prejudice fuck above.
Prejudice and HATE are bad.
Examples:
Rasicm: Black people are better at playing basketball
Prejudice: Porch monkeys are better at basketball cause they are used to swinging from the trees in the jungle.
See how one is perfectly acceptable and the other clearly isn't?
There isn't one. Just do your best to be as good to the people you meet in your life as you can.
I believe the first solution is for everyone to stop talking about racism like we do. Our children grow up prejudice because we start beating into their heads at an early age that its not okay to point out differences in people like skin color, and that we're all equal ... WE AREN'T, AND THATS OKAY. We need to stop making it such a point to children, stop forcing race issues in their face as their trying to form an opinion and view of the world.
Stop making race an issue and it'll stop being such an issue, but the last bit of your post is the important part. If we all just go back to treating people the way we want to be treated the world would be much better off.
ranging from your sexual orientation and marital status to your travel and purchasing propensities.
Not really, they just know what you do online. For instance, my sister in law is regularly hit with ads relating to homosexual related subject matter.
She isn't gay, but she does have several gay friends and she does buy various gifts for them, so its easy to see how you might think that Google knows shes gay (well, we all KNOW she's gay, she just hasn't came out of the closet yet) but in reality, Google just knows that she buys things for stores that do business with association to non-standard sexual orientation.
Google doesn't care if your gay or straight, they just care about delivering you to an advertiser that you will buy from so the advertiser continues to use Google.
You're own fear that people might find out you're gay is the problem not Google.
Really? So you're refering to yourself right? You must be ... otherwise I presume you can show me proof that Google is not better?
Note the word I used: PROOF
Otherwise Google isn't doing anything webmasters haven't been doing since day one ... just because you have no clue that its been happening doesn't change anything. Google can't log anything more than I can on my website about you, but you still use other websites, don't you?
No, not really, I'd fucking turn on encryption. I don't walk outside my front door and scream at the top of my lungs all my private information, nor does my wifi transmit in clear text, and I certainly don't login to my email without using SSL.
I get a brand new collection of data EVERY weekend more or less. I have a PC in my boat with wifi, every weekend during the summer I drive to the lake, and if I turn it on before I leave the house, I'll have a ton of crap logged when I get home, right along side GPS and Sonar data (which obviously isn't real useful on the land portion of the journey.
It gives me a great list of wifi access points I can hope on when I'm on the lake and cellular data isn't fast enough. Do I do anything with the data? No, I have other things to do that don't involve reading grandma's email or Larry Laffers emails to the other Larry about their incestuous threesomes with their sister Patty.
No, I really don't care if MS or Facebook did it because they wouldn't get anything.
And as for your signature line, theres a big difference between listening with no special equipment and using a special mic. If you stand on the street and hear me screaming, which is pretty much what wifi does, then I have no control over what you do with what you heard, nor is you standing there listening illegal. On the other hand, if you bounce a laser mic off my bedroom window to listen to my wife and I snuggling after coitus, then its another story ... and you're probably already defs from her previous hour of screaming with pleasure!
Unencrypted Wifi is like screaming at the top of your lungs, its your own damn fault for not using encryption ... and not using it in MULTIPLE PLACES WHERE YOU SHOULD BE like you wifi network and logging into your email. Whats next, you'll bitch the Google photographed your License plate ... or the big poster you put up on the side of your house telling everyone how gay you are?
I've yet to see one instance of where Google has used my data in a way that I find unacceptable. I hate ads in general, but I'll take a targeted add over a viagra ad any day. I'm a little sick of seeing EVE Online adverts everyone considering I have multiple accounts but thats not Googles fault is it? (No, its not Googles ad network that keeps showing them too me).
As the previous post said, when they give me even a little reason to not trust them, I'll move somewhere else, until then, yes, I trust them with my data. I trust them to be better at backing up my data than I am actually, and its something I do professionally as part of my employment. I know how much effort goes into a working backup plan in order for it to be effective and not just something that you think works right up until you need it too.
I could give a shit what the government knows about me. I don't live in Libya, I live in the USA, and regardless of how nutty you are and how much you think the government is out to get you, they really don't give a fuck about you. You really aren't that special. They have plenty of people to go after that are far more useful to track than me. Your paranoia isn't reality, which is why I don't care if Google has my data.
If the government really wants to read my email, let them, I'm sure they'll find the ones to my wife boring enough that they won't be reading it for long.
I'll bet $100 Bill Gates was born at least 20 years before you and somewhere between 10 and 15 before Linux (too lazy to look for exact dates), so Microsoft came first.
is Canonical more into serving their own interests than creating a great Linux distro?"
Thats a fucking retarded statement. Canonical is in business selling Linux, making a great Linux distro IS there business even if you're too much of a pickle smoking fanboy to realize that.
If you think Ubuntu sucks and your distro is far superior, you qualify as a complete and total idiot, and a fanboy too boot.
Its not THAT much different, so you're really starting to argue user preference and you've left the realm of qualitative measurements and went to pure opinion, in which case your statement doesn't matter to anyone anywhere as ... you're nothing more than a fanboy fawning over your beau rather than discussing the merits or shortcomings of an OS.
The only people who think Ubuntu suck or its 'the bad Linux' are fanboys. Any sort of sane person with a normal amount of socializing can easily discuss Ubuntu in context with other distros without going over the edge because they did a few things that they particularly don't like.
Ubuntu does all Linux many good deeds. I'm sorry if you don't like it because its popular, you're just an idiot. I'm sorry if you don't like it because they are doing things to make money, you're just an idiot too stupid to not know you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you, but thats pretty much the typical OSS zealot anyway.
Finally: CmdrTaco - STOP LETTING KDAWSON AND TIMOTHY POST STORIES USING YOUR ACCOUNT. There was a time when you wouldn't have posted such retarded trolls to the front page, and you wouldn't have given them the clicks for what is a blatent attempt to gain page views by inciting the raging mob of fanboys. When did you guys start officially taking slashvertisments? Hell, I'm willing to pay to get slashdotted too, how much?
Freaking awesome, I knew writing an OS for an ATmega chip instead of just using FreeRTOS would make me more manly. Now I have confirmation, my wife is so gonna do me tonight.
I've used UNIX for ~20 years and have NEVER used a GNOME desktop.
Linux != UNIX
Someone who doesn't trust the kernel and fs to be sane under normal operations is probably using the wrong kernel/OS or file system, they just may not be to the point where they realize it yet.
If you think you need to run fsck on a clean FS, you need to realize you aren't an admin, just a guy with root.
Again, 1995 called, they want their broken ass kernel back. Memory fragmentation is simple to fix at runtime on pretty much any hardware platform with an MMU ... so everything Linux runs on.
Kernel memory leaks and what have you indicate you've picked a broken OS to use, not that reboots are needed.
Are you sure you aren't talking about Windows? I switched to FreeBSD from Linux years ago but I find it hard to believe you're running into memory issues due to fragmentation or kernel leaks now days. People use it in production, it can't be that bad ... RIGHT?
(why are clueless people deleting things in /boot?)
Better question, why the fuck wasn't / (and /boot) mounted read only in the first place?
You're not going to upgrade from 2.6.n to 2.6.(n+1) by reloading modules.
No, you wouldn't do that with Linux, Linux has absolutely 0 concern about binary compatibility, it is in fact almost something they strive to avoid.
However, you can do it pretty easy on a lot of commercial unixes and on the *BSDs as well in most cases. A properly designed kernel shouldn't be changing that often in ways that are going to break modules unless the kernel authurs don't give a flying fuck about anyone elses work, hence why you wouldn't do it with Linux but on Solaris, which they maintain binary compat specifically for this sort of thing, well ... that would be an entirely different ball game.
Same for Windows for that matter, although most people dont' have any clue that its possible.
True, but they are an indication of an admins ability to keep the machine functioning as well. Gold medals in the Olympics are a dick measurement as well, stop being a bitch about it just because yours is small.
Kernel patches need a reboot, full stop. System patches do not, a libc update would require pretty much all your services restarted to take advantage of it, but do they need to? If you install a patch to libc to fix a timezone issue for Botswana and you'll never deal with that timezone ... and then you reboot your box because of it, you're just a fucking idiot, not a good admin. You introduced a change to a stable system for no reason, horrible horrible engineering practice.
So you're calling uptime a dick swinging contest, but you don't think this statement isn't the exact same thing? I'm not sure about whatever OSes you use, but none of the UNIX machines I admin have had a remote kernel exploit in years, everything else can be handled by applications except for some weird privilege escalation bugs, but again, I haven't seen one of those in years. Do I not have new kernel features by running older kernels? Nope, I don't, but does it MATTER if I don't have those features? I don't upgrade because someone released a patch. I upgrade because I have a reason, it results in FAR FAR less headaches when you need your machines to be reliable rather than bleeding edge.
You're upgrading because you think 'omg must be current' which is just as ignorant as caring about uptime without considering anything else.
The OS you are referring to is broken in multiple ways. First off, what OS can't fsck the root partition while mounted? Mine both do it by default, about 30 seconds after the boot process is more or less complete. I can certainly do it manually by hand after boot as well. If your machines are always corrupt after a years uptime with a clean filesystem then you definitely need to get your broken ass OS fixed. Don't know which one you're referring too, but its clearly broken if you're getting disk corruption during normal runtime. There is no way that it is acceptable to have a unclean root after a clean shutdown, I suggest you pick another OS or an FS on your OS that isn't broken.
Zombie processes and stuck tape drives cause you to need to reboot? Seriously? Zombie processes? 1995 called, they want their Linux back ... WTF kind of tape drives are you using that can't be fully reset from the OS? Hell, power cycle them, rescan the scsi bus and move on if you don't know how to fix your tape drives. ISCSI problems? Uhm, restart the server process or force an umount if the hung machine is the client. If your kernel is broken then it would be a bigger issue, but here again, you're using a broken/buggy OS and its not something that would happen in my shop.
To the point: Everything you've said in your post makes it clear you are in no way a professional admin. You appear to have thrown some random modern buzzwords in with what I would say was true ... if I were running Linux in 1995. Now I don't run Linux today, I use other UNIXs so I can't say that it isn't that shitty any more, but I'm pretty sure its not, and I know the *BSDs and Solaris act nothing like you describe. So what fucked up UNIX are you dealing with that makes you reboot so often? I want to make sure I get no where near it.
The first thing I learned about unix was 'you never reboot it'.
The second major thing I learned about big UNIX hardware is because the shit is so finicky that rebooting may be its death. I learned that day, after watching a sysadmin argue with a Sun tech for literally an hour or more that it shouldn't be rebooted ... that sometimes the hardware doesn't work on the next boot, as was the case for this multimillion dollar Sun server that now decided it no longer had anything on boot flash so it was unable to boot ... because the Sun tech insisted he reboot for a kernel patch that had no relation to the problem at all.
I don't know any UNIX admin who thinks they should reboot their server, ever. I know unix admins that will patch everything on the system and restart daemons even if they have to apply patches one file at a time (patch cluster failing to install on its own for instance), I've heard stories about admins patching binary code in memory JUST to keep a system up and running. UNIX admins take their work more seriously than anyone I know, including just about every Doctor I met.
I know plenty of people who run Linux who reboot their machines for fun. I know plenty of Windows admins who reboot there servers at the first sign of failure.
UNIX admins on the other hand login and find the problem, fix the problem, and let the machine live.
For those saying 'OMG I DON'T WANT TO RUN SOFTWARE THAT OLD!!!!' ... well then you aren't an admin either, you learn rather quickly that when it ain't broke, don't fuck with it. Kernel flaws that can't be mitigated in application daemons or firewalls are pretty freaking rare so theres almost no weight what so ever behind that, pretty much every exploit that exists is a userland exploit, not kernel so unless you have a new feature that you need in the kernel you rarely HAVE to screw with it now days with KLMs and such, hell, I haven't even rebooted recent FreeBSD builds due to kernel changes, just rebuild and reload the KLM in most cases, I'm certain FreeBSD isn't unique in this ability.
You know what you call someone that thinks you reboot a server to solve problems? You call them a fucking Windows USER. Not an admin, and most certainly not a UNIX admin.
If you think rebooting to fix an unknown problem is a good idea its because you don't know what you're doing. I don't mean that to be malicious, its just the reality of it. An intelligent admin doesn't do shit until he/she knows whats going on.
And with great sadness it brings me to my final duty as a Geek with a conscious ...
CmdrTaco your geek card is hereby revoked. You have exceeded your 'retarded idiots posted to the front page' quota by at least 3 in the last month. This one just sends it over the top. You are no longer considered a geek. All privileges associated with your geek card are also hereby revoked.