Anyone who accepts computer models of weather forecasts is pretty dumb indeed.
No one who actually depends on the weather conditions listens to weather forecasts, they stick their head out the window and look.
'Computerized Weather forecasts' are rarely any more accurate than an old farmer, and get it completely wrong almost infinitely more often.
I wouldn't have trusted the model either, but you error on the side of caution, when it says it won't work, you assume it won't. If the software said it would work, then you check all your other engineering and proceed with caution.
Every person that said to ignore the software data.
There is no one scape goat.
You don't go after one guy, you go after all of them, and you start at the VERY top.
CEO goes to jail. He IS RESPONSIBLE for what happened even if he absolutely 0 to do with it or doesn't know anything about it. He is at the top of the food chain, then you go down from there, all the way to the guys who ran the rig if they knew they were doing the wrong thing.
Everyone above the guy who made the wrong decision is at fault, and everyone under him that was aware of the potential consequences of the actions they were taking.
'I was just following orders' is not an excuse, nor is 'I didn't know'
Yep, some people are going to get hurt, maybe they should jump ship before they get hurt?
With very little effort, thanks to the Internet, we can simply see who's trucks are filling up the tanks at gas stations and then avoid anyone that buys gas that gets supplied by BP or any of its subsidiaries along the way.
Not doing anything at all because their will be some collateral damage is just retarded, you must be French, easier to take it up the ass than to fight back.
No one is 'only capable of working at BP'. I don't care if they 'dont make that decision', the 'I just work here' excuse is just that, an excuse for someone not willing to put the effort into making a change. Its a choice the employee makes, but they most certainly can have an effect.
If their entire staff leaves, it will most certainly hurt their profits.
Its just a question of if they care enough to do something about it. For reference: getting a job elsewhere is doing something about it.
Actually, its not. You just need permits to do it in most places and when it gets excessive and starts bothering other people, then you get taken to jail.
You'll find that you can get by with just about anything as long as you leave others alone and don't bother them.
Of course thats not what you're trying to do. You're trying to throw a temper tantrum, light the building on fire and then expect everyone to see it your way.
'I don't care that I'm in the minority, its my way or the high way'
And please, never fucking compare what this is to MLK again.
This is like lighting someones business on fire so they can no longer operate their business. Versus actual non-violent activities like peaceful protests.
And drop the fucking 'oppressor' bullshit, you've never fucking known oppression if you think what they do is oppression.
You're nothing more than a spoiled clueless brat who thinks he/she is entitled to anything and everything you desire regardless of what anyone else thinks. I'm blown away that you compared this bullshit to the work of MLK. You really are out of your mind.
And not letting you randomly copy someone elses work without paying them for it and living in Nazi Germany in 1942 are the same!
Now that we're both done acting like douche bags here, lets get back to the point. People still have the ability to change laws in most countries and at no point while the general population doesn't give enough of a shit to change the laws does breaking them become OK.
Not enough people agree with what you want to change the laws to be the way you want, that means you don't get to change the laws yourself, and you certainly don't get to break new laws so you can 'stick it to the man' which is all this really is.
If the world actually operated like guys pretend it does, you'd have been gassed long ago.
You have a serious lack of perspective and grasp of reality.
Yep, turn away any help you can get because you have a retarded political agenda that says if you don't get the keys to the entire hotel, you won't spend the night there.
You'll continue to be looking for a room while you stand in the rain, more or less alone.
Linux can't make progress with ignorance like yours. You should probably learn to accept that people can use Linux for things you don't agree with, thats what FREEDOM is about.
You don't want software freedom, you want free software because you're too cheap to pay for it. OSS and GPL are just the mask you hide behind.
Mutually exclusive items. Drop the DirectX part and you might have a little better luck, but lets face it, no self respecting GPL zealot is going to have anything related to Microsoft in it.
The ABI generally maintains backwards compatibility to a good extent, but if you think it hasn't changed you're completely ignorant and blind.
If it hasn't changed... why do drivers designed for Win7 not work in XP or Win3.1? How do applications now take advantage of more than 640k? How do these Windows apps interact with the new security bits of Windows 7. Why did AV makers shout and scream about the changes made that screwed over their 'ability' to provide virus protection?
Your visual studio statement makes it clear you're a clueless fanboy.
Yes, the political and other agendas that go along with Linux essentially result in it fucking itself over in this respect.
It also helps with portability, can you run your nvidia binary driver on mips?
So who REALLY do you expect to care that you can't run it on a reasonable obscure OS... with a rather obscure (these days) processor? You might care, and maybe some guy in Europe... but no one else does, so you're not really doing anything to help your argument in the minds of people who actually want to serve the most amount of people. You want to run some odd combination, you cut yourself off.
Linux by far has the most in-built driver support of any operating system that has ever existed. To call it crappy is a bit of a farce.
And to ignore what every major developer complains about and uses as their reason for not developing for Linux is just utterly ignorant. If you want people to develop for Linux you have to address their reason for not doing it, not sit around and tell them they are wrong.
All hardware vendors need to do is give a kernel dev specs and a driver which will be indefinitely supported is created. I can still use a tv tuner card from 2001 on my machine now, could you do the same with windows 7?
Really? You're using an analog tuner to receive what? Analog was done away with last year in the US, I suspect that any other major country in the world is either already there or going that way soon as well, so its awesome that you can get your old TV card working, I don't think any Windows 7 user will cry that they can't get the card they bought 9 years ago to work... since even with drivers its effectively useless. I guess you could hook it up to cable providers until they drop analog completely.
Having a stable ABI limits improvements to the kernel, and loses a great deal of flexibility and usefulness. So really, screw that. If you 'want' a stable ABI, it is a good sign you are doing it wrong anyway.
Actually, you have that backwards. If you can't make a reasonable stable ABI, you're doing it wrong. Its just a sign of a dev who either is incapable of thinking about the future or or don't care, either way, you won't find people who bother to follow you constantly doing anything useful. The fact that you think this way shows that you have no concept of how proper software development works. Its not even unique to software development, standardized interfaces are considered one of the major innovations that brought us to where we are today as far as production is concerned.
Do you think an assembly line would work if every engine, tire, bolt, or whatever had 'improvements to its interface' every day? Oh, today we get new bolts, gotta update the engines... oh, the engines have a change that requires transmission modifications.
The interface doesn't have to stay the same forever, and indeed can't, but consistency and stability are a good thing, even if you don't understand why. Perhaps you should try living in a world where every electric company providers their own 'optimized' form of electricity, complete with different voltages and frequencies. How well would that work out?
If Christian cosmology is wrong, then Christian cosmology is wrong. That really doesn't mean the rest of it is any less accurate or any more accurate.
When it was discovered that the universe did not in fact revolve around the Earth, it didn't invalidate all other knowledge about celestial mechanics did it? Did that discovery suddenly mean all knowledge of farming and writing were wrong? No.
If proving one little bit of a general subject matter wrong invalidated the entire subject than there would be no scentific progress at all as previous theories are regularly proven wrong.
Contrary to what you want to believe, very few things are black and white, all or nothing.
There is no proof of black holes, only evidence that suggests their existence, so his theories didn't 'pan out' they are still theories, but lets not let real science cloud our perception of things.
When you invent the math to prove your point, it generally is pretty easy to prove your point, the only difficult is making it cover enough of the holes so it takes a while for someone to figure out that you are wrong.
I don't know if he's right or wrong, but I do know that neither he, nor you, nor any of us actually can confirm anything he has said, so its all still theories which have not been proven.
If you think they have been proven you don't understand how science works.
I intentionally removed kdawson and timothy from the front page on slashdot just so I wouldn't have to see their ignorant, retarded, not a fucking clue posts...
Did they realize that no one read their tripe anymore now they have to have someone else approve it for them?
kdawson and timothy are idiots, please give me a way to automatically not see anything that has to do with those two morons. Please.
kdawson is cheating to get around the effort I put on not seeing his crap, MS and Google on the other hand are following the RFC just fine... if anyone involved in the posting of this story had a clue about what it said or did any sort of actual research than I wouldn't have to rant about it...
You're saying we should focus on absolutely nothing but homeland security and ignore every other part of our society?
Or is it just that you feel the need to defend a site as if it was innocent. I really don't care what they hosted on their site, its purpose was clear, to facilitate sharing of copyrighted material.
You, and most of slashdot seem to think that just because you skirt around technicalities in the law that its suddenly okay to do so, because you get your way. In reality, as has been since the dawn of time, when you try to cheat your way past the law it will eventually come around and get you.
Its really fucking retarded for anyone to expect anything different than this outcome eventually, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
If you don't like the laws, CHANGE THEM, stop trying to cheat them and then act all outraged when it catches up to you. Its time slashdot stops acting like a bunch of 15 year old Stallman look alikes.
Spoken by someone who has read some security docs online and thinks they know something about security.
99.9% of security is security through obscurity.
What do you think a key is? A key is an obscure object that grants the holder security because its too obscure for someone else to just guess. Same goes for all encryption and hashing.
There is no PC based security that isn't security through obscurity. Keycards and fingerprint scans are security through obscurity. Photo IDs are security through obscurity based on all the things on them that others don't know about or can't duplicate... the picture on it is there because your face is 'obscure' and its unlikely someone else can make a match that someone wont' pick up on.
The reality of it is, security through obscurity is what the entire world uses, if you don't realize this, you know absolutely nothing at all about security, physical or electronic.
The exception to this is the guys holding weapons or brute force. That is not security through obscurity, thats security through force.
I really wish people would stop spouting that retarded meme. You don't know what you're talking about, just shut your pie hole.
It's frustrating to only have header files and not be able to check out what a method actually does when debugging.
So I'm guessing you've never done professional development for a mainstream OS? If you're biggest issues with something is 'I cant see all the source' then you're a pretty shitty and inexperienced developer indeed.
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I've spent all these years fighting spam ... now you're telling me to welcome it in order to win?
Thats a really silly statement, don't you think?
Its not pure luck.
There are A LOT of safety checks involved in systems like this one, but human checks and automated ones.
It doesn't happen more often because generally ONE of the thousands of checks will alert someone to stop.
Situations like this occur when MANY MANY things went wrong or were done wrong, not one.
Anyone who accepts computer models of weather forecasts is pretty dumb indeed.
No one who actually depends on the weather conditions listens to weather forecasts, they stick their head out the window and look.
'Computerized Weather forecasts' are rarely any more accurate than an old farmer, and get it completely wrong almost infinitely more often.
I wouldn't have trusted the model either, but you error on the side of caution, when it says it won't work, you assume it won't. If the software said it would work, then you check all your other engineering and proceed with caution.
Citation needed.
Show one case where Walmart raised prices after they run everyone else out of business.
No, your anecdotal experiences don't count.
Every person that said to ignore the software data.
There is no one scape goat.
You don't go after one guy, you go after all of them, and you start at the VERY top.
CEO goes to jail. He IS RESPONSIBLE for what happened even if he absolutely 0 to do with it or doesn't know anything about it. He is at the top of the food chain, then you go down from there, all the way to the guys who ran the rig if they knew they were doing the wrong thing.
Everyone above the guy who made the wrong decision is at fault, and everyone under him that was aware of the potential consequences of the actions they were taking.
'I was just following orders' is not an excuse, nor is 'I didn't know'
Oh, so we should do nothing and keep paying them!
Yep, some people are going to get hurt, maybe they should jump ship before they get hurt?
With very little effort, thanks to the Internet, we can simply see who's trucks are filling up the tanks at gas stations and then avoid anyone that buys gas that gets supplied by BP or any of its subsidiaries along the way.
Not doing anything at all because their will be some collateral damage is just retarded, you must be French, easier to take it up the ass than to fight back.
Thats a cop out.
No one is 'only capable of working at BP'. I don't care if they 'dont make that decision', the 'I just work here' excuse is just that, an excuse for someone not willing to put the effort into making a change. Its a choice the employee makes, but they most certainly can have an effect.
If their entire staff leaves, it will most certainly hurt their profits.
Its just a question of if they care enough to do something about it. For reference: getting a job elsewhere is doing something about it.
Actually, its not. You just need permits to do it in most places and when it gets excessive and starts bothering other people, then you get taken to jail.
You'll find that you can get by with just about anything as long as you leave others alone and don't bother them.
Of course thats not what you're trying to do. You're trying to throw a temper tantrum, light the building on fire and then expect everyone to see it your way.
How well is it working out for you so far?
Your entire post can be summed up as:
'I don't care that I'm in the minority, its my way or the high way'
And please, never fucking compare what this is to MLK again.
This is like lighting someones business on fire so they can no longer operate their business. Versus actual non-violent activities like peaceful protests.
And drop the fucking 'oppressor' bullshit, you've never fucking known oppression if you think what they do is oppression.
You're nothing more than a spoiled clueless brat who thinks he/she is entitled to anything and everything you desire regardless of what anyone else thinks. I'm blown away that you compared this bullshit to the work of MLK. You really are out of your mind.
And not letting you randomly copy someone elses work without paying them for it and living in Nazi Germany in 1942 are the same!
Now that we're both done acting like douche bags here, lets get back to the point. People still have the ability to change laws in most countries and at no point while the general population doesn't give enough of a shit to change the laws does breaking them become OK.
Not enough people agree with what you want to change the laws to be the way you want, that means you don't get to change the laws yourself, and you certainly don't get to break new laws so you can 'stick it to the man' which is all this really is.
If the world actually operated like guys pretend it does, you'd have been gassed long ago.
You have a serious lack of perspective and grasp of reality.
Yep, turn away any help you can get because you have a retarded political agenda that says if you don't get the keys to the entire hotel, you won't spend the night there.
You'll continue to be looking for a room while you stand in the rain, more or less alone.
Linux can't make progress with ignorance like yours. You should probably learn to accept that people can use Linux for things you don't agree with, thats what FREEDOM is about.
You don't want software freedom, you want free software because you're too cheap to pay for it. OSS and GPL are just the mask you hide behind.
Mutually exclusive items. Drop the DirectX part and you might have a little better luck, but lets face it, no self respecting GPL zealot is going to have anything related to Microsoft in it.
Yea, good attitude, someone trying to promote Linux and you tell them to fuck off because it doesn't fit your perfect little world.
No wonder Linux will never make any desktop progress, its users are its own worst enemy.
Angsty little fucks aren't you.
Wow, fanboys modded you up fast didn't they?
The ABI generally maintains backwards compatibility to a good extent, but if you think it hasn't changed you're completely ignorant and blind.
If it hasn't changed ... why do drivers designed for Win7 not work in XP or Win3.1? How do applications now take advantage of more than 640k? How do these Windows apps interact with the new security bits of Windows 7. Why did AV makers shout and scream about the changes made that screwed over their 'ability' to provide virus protection?
Your visual studio statement makes it clear you're a clueless fanboy.
Yes, the political and other agendas that go along with Linux essentially result in it fucking itself over in this respect.
So who REALLY do you expect to care that you can't run it on a reasonable obscure OS ... with a rather obscure (these days) processor? You might care, and maybe some guy in Europe ... but no one else does, so you're not really doing anything to help your argument in the minds of people who actually want to serve the most amount of people. You want to run some odd combination, you cut yourself off.
And to ignore what every major developer complains about and uses as their reason for not developing for Linux is just utterly ignorant. If you want people to develop for Linux you have to address their reason for not doing it, not sit around and tell them they are wrong.
Really? You're using an analog tuner to receive what? Analog was done away with last year in the US, I suspect that any other major country in the world is either already there or going that way soon as well, so its awesome that you can get your old TV card working, I don't think any Windows 7 user will cry that they can't get the card they bought 9 years ago to work ... since even with drivers its effectively useless. I guess you could hook it up to cable providers until they drop analog completely.
Actually, you have that backwards. If you can't make a reasonable stable ABI, you're doing it wrong. Its just a sign of a dev who either is incapable of thinking about the future or or don't care, either way, you won't find people who bother to follow you constantly doing anything useful. The fact that you think this way shows that you have no concept of how proper software development works. Its not even unique to software development, standardized interfaces are considered one of the major innovations that brought us to where we are today as far as production is concerned.
Do you think an assembly line would work if every engine, tire, bolt, or whatever had 'improvements to its interface' every day? Oh, today we get new bolts, gotta update the engines ... oh, the engines have a change that requires transmission modifications.
The interface doesn't have to stay the same forever, and indeed can't, but consistency and stability are a good thing, even if you don't understand why. Perhaps you should try living in a world where every electric company providers their own 'optimized' form of electricity, complete with different voltages and frequencies. How well would that work out?
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If Christian cosmology is wrong, then Christian cosmology is wrong. That really doesn't mean the rest of it is any less accurate or any more accurate.
When it was discovered that the universe did not in fact revolve around the Earth, it didn't invalidate all other knowledge about celestial mechanics did it? Did that discovery suddenly mean all knowledge of farming and writing were wrong? No.
If proving one little bit of a general subject matter wrong invalidated the entire subject than there would be no scentific progress at all as previous theories are regularly proven wrong.
Contrary to what you want to believe, very few things are black and white, all or nothing.
There is no proof of black holes, only evidence that suggests their existence, so his theories didn't 'pan out' they are still theories, but lets not let real science cloud our perception of things.
When you invent the math to prove your point, it generally is pretty easy to prove your point, the only difficult is making it cover enough of the holes so it takes a while for someone to figure out that you are wrong.
I don't know if he's right or wrong, but I do know that neither he, nor you, nor any of us actually can confirm anything he has said, so its all still theories which have not been proven.
If you think they have been proven you don't understand how science works.
I intentionally removed kdawson and timothy from the front page on slashdot just so I wouldn't have to see their ignorant, retarded, not a fucking clue posts ...
Did they realize that no one read their tripe anymore now they have to have someone else approve it for them?
kdawson and timothy are idiots, please give me a way to automatically not see anything that has to do with those two morons. Please.
kdawson is cheating to get around the effort I put on not seeing his crap, MS and Google on the other hand are following the RFC just fine ... if anyone involved in the posting of this story had a clue about what it said or did any sort of actual research than I wouldn't have to rant about it ...
uhm ... every website on the planet collects IPs of the people who visit it?
Are you retarded or just have no clue how the Internet actually works?
Couldn't possibly be about the law or anything, I mean, that would be too easy.
Its far more efficient to get people riled up by spewing ignorant statements like yours.
Seriously?
You're saying we should focus on absolutely nothing but homeland security and ignore every other part of our society?
Or is it just that you feel the need to defend a site as if it was innocent. I really don't care what they hosted on their site, its purpose was clear, to facilitate sharing of copyrighted material.
You, and most of slashdot seem to think that just because you skirt around technicalities in the law that its suddenly okay to do so, because you get your way. In reality, as has been since the dawn of time, when you try to cheat your way past the law it will eventually come around and get you.
Its really fucking retarded for anyone to expect anything different than this outcome eventually, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
If you don't like the laws, CHANGE THEM, stop trying to cheat them and then act all outraged when it catches up to you. Its time slashdot stops acting like a bunch of 15 year old Stallman look alikes.
Spoken by someone who has read some security docs online and thinks they know something about security.
99.9% of security is security through obscurity.
What do you think a key is? A key is an obscure object that grants the holder security because its too obscure for someone else to just guess. Same goes for all encryption and hashing.
There is no PC based security that isn't security through obscurity. Keycards and fingerprint scans are security through obscurity. Photo IDs are security through obscurity based on all the things on them that others don't know about or can't duplicate ... the picture on it is there because your face is 'obscure' and its unlikely someone else can make a match that someone wont' pick up on.
The reality of it is, security through obscurity is what the entire world uses, if you don't realize this, you know absolutely nothing at all about security, physical or electronic.
The exception to this is the guys holding weapons or brute force. That is not security through obscurity, thats security through force.
I really wish people would stop spouting that retarded meme. You don't know what you're talking about, just shut your pie hole.
Yea, and the TSA is doing the right thing in its screenings because terrorists and other criminals don't like it.
Look, now we've both made incredibly ignorant and short sighted statements.
Its fucking retarded to say 'my enemy doesn't like them so they MUST BE GOOD'.
So I'm guessing you've never done professional development for a mainstream OS? If you're biggest issues with something is 'I cant see all the source' then you're a pretty shitty and inexperienced developer indeed.
Did you seriously just say C++ wasn't a superset of C?