I most certainly can. Well, I was able to, until I tripped and broke it and my nose when I didn't notice the end of the side walk. Good thing I didn't get hit by the car that came around the corner at just that moment....
Standing and using a tablet, fine. Walking and using one, no thanks.
This is modded funny, but funny is the fact that in the last 24 hours I've started 3 apps based loosely on ideas from slashdot alone that will be great on this device.
I could give a fuck if you don't think its useful, I'm pretty sure its going to be the next addition to my iPod Touch/iPhone income source.
Hell, theres another 4 or 5 in this article alone that can be good with some domain specific knowledge (which I don't have).
I've done that on ATmega processors, but not x86. With x86 hardware so cheap now, the only reason I have to use ATmega's is power savings, but the loss of CPU power makes it not worth it for my toying around.
I'm interested in doing exactly what you did 20 years ago. Would you know of a decent place to find the documentation required to do this? Like info on video output and such? Just a general basic getting started website or even a book, I don't mind buying something for the knowledge.
I'm a C guy, but as I've said I've done SOME asm for other processors, I just want something with an MMU, and since I can fire up a virtualbox/vmware/parallels machine rather than use actual hardware, x86 seems like the easiest solution.
An alternative would be if anyone knows of a ARM emulator for Windows or preferably OSX that could simulate this sort of thing as well. It'd need to emulate an ARM with an MMU at least, and I don't think theres any 'standard' way of doing video and such on arm, unlike the 'standard pc' kind of thing you can go with on x86 since thats pretty much what all the embedded boards act like anyway.
With the Atmel stuff you have a great emulator to see whats going on with the chip, I don't know of anything like that for x86 other than GDB, is there any sort of 'ASM for cluebies' setup for x86 that would compare to the Atmel IDE/simulator/debugger?
Shrug, thats the way the laws were 15 years ago or so. I left because, in Florida you have two types of people.
Tourists who could give a fuck.
And
Natives who are fucks, hate tourists and want them all to 'go home', don't give a shit about anyone else, and are too stupid to realize that the state offers nothing of value without tourism.
Well, theres also the third type: Old people who go to Florida to die. They may not go their to die intentionally, but being that doctors in FL don't give a shit about the elderly and just basically drug them up so they shut up until they die, that group doesn't really count for anything except supporting the economy. The natives would also love for this group to go away.
Just for reference, when you say 'still live there', it should be 'still live HERE'. I'm guess you went to a shitty school or missed the CPR days.
That is your opinion. However your opinion only actually matters if (in most countries) the majority of the population agrees with you.
If the majority of the population thinks helping out someone in need is a requirement, then it is and your opinion is irrelevant.
Governments don't have some specific set of things that they are supposed to do, the are there to facilitate what the people agree on they should do. If the majority agree with you, then thats what they do. If the majority feels differently, then thats what they do.
YOU don't define what the governments job is, the majority of the population defines what the governments job is.
You are correct, however, when you need assistance, and everyone is standing around watching you die on the sidewalk, remember what you said here.
Think about how mad you will be if your loved one or child gets mamed or killed because no one helped.
As a country (regardless of what country in most cases) the people do decide that you ARE required to do somethings for the good of the people. This is one of those things that I do feel people need to be motived to do. It used to be that people believed in helping neighbors and strangers, but now everyone in the industrialized world with nice cushie jobs are content to stand around and let someone get hurt rather than risking themselves. Americans (and others I'm sure, but I'm american and thats what I have to go with) think we're so great for how we 'help the world' by sending money (spare change for most people, I don't know of anyone that gives enough that they notice it being gone) and signing little petitions or holding rallies. All of this stuff is easy and is no skin of your own back. Its just so we can feel good about ourselves, not to actually HELP anyone.
The real problem is that people are unwilling to help yet those people are generally (not always) the first ones to expect someone else to help them.
Its a moral issue in my opinion, but to me, its a very clear moral issue. I'm 5'6" and 120lb soaking wet, and when confronted with a situation where I saw men reaching through a car window and beating the hell out of a man at a stop light, I got out and intervened at great personal risk because ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO and if I didn't do it, why should I expect anyone else to do it for me? Fortunately, they ran back to their car and drove off when they saw me comming so I didn't end up getting my ass beat, which would have been the likely outcome. Either way, in the end, I'm able to sleep at night knowing I did the right thing. Of course, I was 17, and it was probably more the result of hormones than anything else, but thats another story. I certainly don't know for sure if I would do the same thing until I'm faced with another such situation, which I hope that I never will. Its hard to do the right thing, and most of the time, very scary and dangerous.
I can only hope that I can instill the same values into my children so they do the same. Being a productive member of society sometimes requires taking personal risks to help others in need. Someone HAS to do it, and everyone SHOULD feel the responsibility to do it.
If I get hurt/killed or my children get hurt/killed trying to help someone else, it will be very sad and if its my child I'm sure I will be devastated, but I'd rather they stand up for their fellow human beings and do what I consider the right thing rather than stand by and watch.
People will pretend to care about others by donating money to things like the Earthquake victims, but this is purely superficial. Actions speak far louder than words, and everytime I hear someone talk about donating money (that they'll never even miss) its clear that its for attention, not to actually help people.
Obviously this is all just my personal feelings on the matter, but I'm fairly confident that if more people actually CARED about their fellow human beings rather than putting on a show and ACTING like they care, the world would be a far better place.
And this is different from any other software package how?
What application reads the ODF document format version that was used in the 90s? Whats that? None of them? Because like Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny it doesn't fucking exist?
There comes a point when you're format is hard to view anywhere if its anything other than plain old text. And EVEN THAT is a problem. How many apps do you know of that will open EBCDIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC today? I'm sure there are ways to do it, but being that I haven't seen an Office 95 document OR EBCDIC text in years, its not really the issue you're trying to make it out to be.
So... older versions of Office do work with the new format then... so you're point is invalid.
Also, how common is it for older versions of OO to work with newer versions of ODF?
Its retarded to argue that 'old versions can use new formats'... of course they can't, you have to upgrade, anyone can grasp that concept, its the same regardless of what software you use. Doesn't matter if it comes from Sun, Microsoft or anyone else. If the format changes the software has to change to support the new features.
MS released a plugin to open the new format in the old versions of the software... for free.
Governments and other massive organizations tend to not follow the upgrade treadmill that OSS loves, so not having the latest version probably isn't a problem.
Not everyone even likes OO, personally I don't like either, but I'd rather pay for MSO than get OO for free. Of course, whenever possible, I use HTML as my document format, which neither are worth a shit at.
You can use 2 keys, you can also use 1 key for all 3 operations, but the preferred mode, and they only one I've ever seen implemented uses 3 unique keys. Using 1 key is effectively the same as DES, so its pointless. Using 2 keys may be seen in some crappy implementations of it, but as I said, I've never seen an implementation that did that, and you'd certainly not be interoperable with any other software that expects the 3 key system.
The argument most trolls use is that you can use OO rather than MS Office, since you save the cost of buying licenses when using OO over MS Office, you get a cost savings in that aspect.
Of course, for most companies, given the choice between free OO and paying for MS Office, they'll still choose MS Office for a number of reasons.
No retraining needed being the biggest reason. The second being that OO is asstastic in almost every imaginable way for your everyday desk jockey that just wants to get their job done and not be part of some crusade against MS.
All the cost savings depends on ignoring the fact that people are used to Office, even the transition to the ribbon isn't really that bad, and MS Office has far more features and better performance, like it or not. Retraining the people who use Office and the IT staff that supports it is expensive, and really in the grand scheme of thing, software licenses are SO trivial to a business that the argument for savings is a joke. The computer itself will use more power in a few years than the cost of licenses for the software on it.
The cost savings argument is rather ignorant and short sighted, its only true if you have such tunnel vision that you ignore all the other work that goes into using the tool.
Have you used Microsoft Office? It can't interoperate with its own older versions
Have YOU used MS Office? I open older documents EVERY day, your post is entirely devoid of any facts or useful information other than showing your ignorance and need to push your agenda on others. You are, infact, spreading FUD just like Microsoft. In your hurry to 'stick it to the man', you are acting EXACTLY like them.
Who said anything about moving away from MS software? MS Office supports ODF. I see no reason they'd switch from MS products if they work properly. Having used both MS Office and OpenOffice, I'd rather pay for MS Office than use OpenOffice, I'm pretty sure most desk jockeys would feel the same way.
First way to make it clear you're nothing more than a fanboy... use a $ instead of an S. That was cute in 1995 and when you're an angsty 15 year old fighting 'the man' without knowing or understanding why.
Second way to make it clear you're nothing more than a fanboy... Ignore the fact that using an OPEN standard means you can use whatever software you want as long as it follows the standard, which MS Office does.
You don't give a shit about open standards, you're just an MS hater. Thats fine, lots of people are, but don't smear the use of open standards with your personal ignorance. You're no better than MS in this respect, you're just thinking that this format will lock people out of MS Office. You're wrong of course, and if you weren't then the 'standard' would be just as bad as being locked into something else.
The point of open standards is that anyone can play ball. You want to impose your personal agenda on others, which is exactly what MS did with the Office formats. You think you're different from MS, but your words make it clear that you're exactly the same.
As long as they want the government to use their software, which in turn keeps people used to using MS Office and using it elsewhere.
They start making it incompatible with the standard and they'll run into problems.
Now... if the standard allows for extensibility, and they take advantage of that extensibility to provide extra features that governments want to use than whos fault is that?
The point of an OPEN document format is to allow people to use whatever software they want, not tie them in to some particular OSS software package.
If that is your (or anyone elses goal), to get people to not use MS Office and to force them to use OSS like OpenOffice, well then thats no better than being locked into MSOffice really.
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I most certainly can. Well, I was able to, until I tripped and broke it and my nose when I didn't notice the end of the side walk. Good thing I didn't get hit by the car that came around the corner at just that moment. ...
Standing and using a tablet, fine. Walking and using one, no thanks.
First solution, get rid of the Yaris and the friend that owns it.
Multitouch? Or just single? If its multi touch I'd be interested in how well it works.
Yes, but /. started out in the web 1.1 beta era, so it gets a free pass.
This is modded funny, but funny is the fact that in the last 24 hours I've started 3 apps based loosely on ideas from slashdot alone that will be great on this device.
I could give a fuck if you don't think its useful, I'm pretty sure its going to be the next addition to my iPod Touch/iPhone income source.
Hell, theres another 4 or 5 in this article alone that can be good with some domain specific knowledge (which I don't have).
My god would you fucking let it go, not everyone gives a shit or at least point out someone who has 'lost rights' to something from iTunes.
I've done that on ATmega processors, but not x86. With x86 hardware so cheap now, the only reason I have to use ATmega's is power savings, but the loss of CPU power makes it not worth it for my toying around.
I'm interested in doing exactly what you did 20 years ago. Would you know of a decent place to find the documentation required to do this? Like info on video output and such? Just a general basic getting started website or even a book, I don't mind buying something for the knowledge.
I'm a C guy, but as I've said I've done SOME asm for other processors, I just want something with an MMU, and since I can fire up a virtualbox/vmware/parallels machine rather than use actual hardware, x86 seems like the easiest solution.
An alternative would be if anyone knows of a ARM emulator for Windows or preferably OSX that could simulate this sort of thing as well. It'd need to emulate an ARM with an MMU at least, and I don't think theres any 'standard' way of doing video and such on arm, unlike the 'standard pc' kind of thing you can go with on x86 since thats pretty much what all the embedded boards act like anyway.
With the Atmel stuff you have a great emulator to see whats going on with the chip, I don't know of anything like that for x86 other than GDB, is there any sort of 'ASM for cluebies' setup for x86 that would compare to the Atmel IDE/simulator/debugger?
Do you realize how much of a douche bag you sound like? Stop talking out your ass and come back when you get out of school.
WTF are you talking about.
To Serve and Protect ...
You're going to have to give a citation if you want anyone to believe that statement.
Shrug, thats the way the laws were 15 years ago or so. I left because, in Florida you have two types of people.
Tourists who could give a fuck.
And
Natives who are fucks, hate tourists and want them all to 'go home', don't give a shit about anyone else, and are too stupid to realize that the state offers nothing of value without tourism.
Well, theres also the third type: Old people who go to Florida to die. They may not go their to die intentionally, but being that doctors in FL don't give a shit about the elderly and just basically drug them up so they shut up until they die, that group doesn't really count for anything except supporting the economy. The natives would also love for this group to go away.
Just for reference, when you say 'still live there', it should be 'still live HERE'. I'm guess you went to a shitty school or missed the CPR days.
That is your opinion. However your opinion only actually matters if (in most countries) the majority of the population agrees with you.
If the majority of the population thinks helping out someone in need is a requirement, then it is and your opinion is irrelevant.
Governments don't have some specific set of things that they are supposed to do, the are there to facilitate what the people agree on they should do. If the majority agree with you, then thats what they do. If the majority feels differently, then thats what they do.
YOU don't define what the governments job is, the majority of the population defines what the governments job is.
You are correct, however, when you need assistance, and everyone is standing around watching you die on the sidewalk, remember what you said here.
Think about how mad you will be if your loved one or child gets mamed or killed because no one helped.
As a country (regardless of what country in most cases) the people do decide that you ARE required to do somethings for the good of the people. This is one of those things that I do feel people need to be motived to do. It used to be that people believed in helping neighbors and strangers, but now everyone in the industrialized world with nice cushie jobs are content to stand around and let someone get hurt rather than risking themselves. Americans (and others I'm sure, but I'm american and thats what I have to go with) think we're so great for how we 'help the world' by sending money (spare change for most people, I don't know of anyone that gives enough that they notice it being gone) and signing little petitions or holding rallies. All of this stuff is easy and is no skin of your own back. Its just so we can feel good about ourselves, not to actually HELP anyone.
The real problem is that people are unwilling to help yet those people are generally (not always) the first ones to expect someone else to help them.
Its a moral issue in my opinion, but to me, its a very clear moral issue. I'm 5'6" and 120lb soaking wet, and when confronted with a situation where I saw men reaching through a car window and beating the hell out of a man at a stop light, I got out and intervened at great personal risk because ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO and if I didn't do it, why should I expect anyone else to do it for me? Fortunately, they ran back to their car and drove off when they saw me comming so I didn't end up getting my ass beat, which would have been the likely outcome. Either way, in the end, I'm able to sleep at night knowing I did the right thing. Of course, I was 17, and it was probably more the result of hormones than anything else, but thats another story. I certainly don't know for sure if I would do the same thing until I'm faced with another such situation, which I hope that I never will. Its hard to do the right thing, and most of the time, very scary and dangerous.
I can only hope that I can instill the same values into my children so they do the same. Being a productive member of society sometimes requires taking personal risks to help others in need. Someone HAS to do it, and everyone SHOULD feel the responsibility to do it.
If I get hurt/killed or my children get hurt/killed trying to help someone else, it will be very sad and if its my child I'm sure I will be devastated, but I'd rather they stand up for their fellow human beings and do what I consider the right thing rather than stand by and watch.
People will pretend to care about others by donating money to things like the Earthquake victims, but this is purely superficial. Actions speak far louder than words, and everytime I hear someone talk about donating money (that they'll never even miss) its clear that its for attention, not to actually help people.
Obviously this is all just my personal feelings on the matter, but I'm fairly confident that if more people actually CARED about their fellow human beings rather than putting on a show and ACTING like they care, the world would be a far better place.
And this is different from any other software package how?
What application reads the ODF document format version that was used in the 90s? Whats that? None of them? Because like Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny it doesn't fucking exist?
There comes a point when you're format is hard to view anywhere if its anything other than plain old text. And EVEN THAT is a problem. How many apps do you know of that will open EBCDIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC today? I'm sure there are ways to do it, but being that I haven't seen an Office 95 document OR EBCDIC text in years, its not really the issue you're trying to make it out to be.
So ... older versions of Office do work with the new format then ... so you're point is invalid.
Also, how common is it for older versions of OO to work with newer versions of ODF?
Its retarded to argue that 'old versions can use new formats' ... of course they can't, you have to upgrade, anyone can grasp that concept, its the same regardless of what software you use. Doesn't matter if it comes from Sun, Microsoft or anyone else. If the format changes the software has to change to support the new features.
MS released a plugin to open the new format in the old versions of the software ... for free.
Governments and other massive organizations tend to not follow the upgrade treadmill that OSS loves, so not having the latest version probably isn't a problem.
Not everyone even likes OO, personally I don't like either, but I'd rather pay for MSO than get OO for free. Of course, whenever possible, I use HTML as my document format, which neither are worth a shit at.
Only if you over sell and never say 'we are at capacity and can not take any more subscribers at this time'
Except for the one that powered atlantis for a season or two.
Not entirely correct. 3DES has 3 keying options.
You can use 2 keys, you can also use 1 key for all 3 operations, but the preferred mode, and they only one I've ever seen implemented uses 3 unique keys. Using 1 key is effectively the same as DES, so its pointless. Using 2 keys may be seen in some crappy implementations of it, but as I said, I've never seen an implementation that did that, and you'd certainly not be interoperable with any other software that expects the 3 key system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_DES
Reading comprehension is hard.
The argument most trolls use is that you can use OO rather than MS Office, since you save the cost of buying licenses when using OO over MS Office, you get a cost savings in that aspect.
Of course, for most companies, given the choice between free OO and paying for MS Office, they'll still choose MS Office for a number of reasons.
No retraining needed being the biggest reason. The second being that OO is asstastic in almost every imaginable way for your everyday desk jockey that just wants to get their job done and not be part of some crusade against MS.
All the cost savings depends on ignoring the fact that people are used to Office, even the transition to the ribbon isn't really that bad, and MS Office has far more features and better performance, like it or not. Retraining the people who use Office and the IT staff that supports it is expensive, and really in the grand scheme of thing, software licenses are SO trivial to a business that the argument for savings is a joke. The computer itself will use more power in a few years than the cost of licenses for the software on it.
The cost savings argument is rather ignorant and short sighted, its only true if you have such tunnel vision that you ignore all the other work that goes into using the tool.
And what happened with that?
People stopped using it in favor of the one that actually followed the standard, and the MS flavor went away.
Have YOU used MS Office? I open older documents EVERY day, your post is entirely devoid of any facts or useful information other than showing your ignorance and need to push your agenda on others. You are, infact, spreading FUD just like Microsoft. In your hurry to 'stick it to the man', you are acting EXACTLY like them.
Good job. Way to fail.
Who said anything about moving away from MS software? MS Office supports ODF. I see no reason they'd switch from MS products if they work properly. Having used both MS Office and OpenOffice, I'd rather pay for MS Office than use OpenOffice, I'm pretty sure most desk jockeys would feel the same way.
First way to make it clear you're nothing more than a fanboy ... use a $ instead of an S. That was cute in 1995 and when you're an angsty 15 year old fighting 'the man' without knowing or understanding why.
Second way to make it clear you're nothing more than a fanboy ... Ignore the fact that using an OPEN standard means you can use whatever software you want as long as it follows the standard, which MS Office does.
You don't give a shit about open standards, you're just an MS hater. Thats fine, lots of people are, but don't smear the use of open standards with your personal ignorance. You're no better than MS in this respect, you're just thinking that this format will lock people out of MS Office. You're wrong of course, and if you weren't then the 'standard' would be just as bad as being locked into something else.
The point of open standards is that anyone can play ball. You want to impose your personal agenda on others, which is exactly what MS did with the Office formats. You think you're different from MS, but your words make it clear that you're exactly the same.
As long as they want the government to use their software, which in turn keeps people used to using MS Office and using it elsewhere.
They start making it incompatible with the standard and they'll run into problems.
Now ... if the standard allows for extensibility, and they take advantage of that extensibility to provide extra features that governments want to use than whos fault is that?
The point of an OPEN document format is to allow people to use whatever software they want, not tie them in to some particular OSS software package.
If that is your (or anyone elses goal), to get people to not use MS Office and to force them to use OSS like OpenOffice, well then thats no better than being locked into MSOffice really.
Great, free Office licenses would be good being that it supports ODF, its a win win situation for them.
They use an open standard and aren't stuck with any one vendor, and one of those vendors may give them software for free.
The only retraining needed will be to get people to save in ODF rather than DOCX.