But the dot-com'ers weren't buying and selling guns. That was the excuse to bring in the heavy artillary. It's not like they were going to ask a CPA from the IRS to knock on their door to collect the taxes.
You can bicker over it all you want. But the numbers speak for themselves. There are other places to spend your entertainment dollars. Video games AND dvd sales are on the rise, while CD sales have slumped.
If you assume that the average person's expendable income for entertainment remains the same, then there is the #1 reason CD sales are slipping.
I've seen interviews were teenagers specifically state that they feel that a $15-$20 brand new DVD was worth more than a brand new CD for $18. However, I'm sure it has to do a lot with DVD's being "new". It's a chance for consumers to replace their VHS collection with better quality, much like people replaced their tape cassettes with their music CD purchases years and years ago.
I also haven't heard of the movie industry being sued for price fixing their DVD releases. However the recording industry has been busted twice.
You didn't violate copyright, unless you distributed it.
And the BSA will only crack on you if your business is making money off of the unpurchased software.
Getting it is not illegal. Giving it is. NOw, with this new law, they've expanded the "giving" to be "allowed to be given". Or however you want to describe their wording of "being in the shared folder".
Don't be an idiot. Copyright infringement involves distributing copyrighted material. Not one RIAA lawsuit to date has been about someone just HAVING material they didn't pay for. There's a reason for that.
I have found that the only genre that keeps me from skipping is Techno. Of course it has to be a certain sub-genre (fast hardcore, i think)
Sometimes slow music can be non-skippable. For instance the celtic theme that is in the Braveheart Soundtrack works wonders. However, I have found some very bad Celtic music out there that can curdle milk.
There are time when a certain mood can allow other types of genre (Blus). But that is few and far between.
I feel your pain. I suppose we could delete our mp3's....
The same is true with having a terabyte of mp3 albums. With so much to choose from, your ability to sit through a B+ song is almost impossible. You want to skip ahead to a much better song.
This has seriously reduced the enjoyment of music. A person's A+ list becomes pretty small. Probably about the same size as one's vinyl collection as a kid. (YAMV - Your age may vary)
I don't argue your stance against the boob tube. But the article's story was about reading books. And the restrictions ON those books. Due to the cost of paper, I don't find it inconcievable that it would be mandatory to read professor's books online in 40 years. It could be possible that by then the publishing markets all went to online content anyway as the only means of staying profitable.
The industry could even get rid of the idea of printing books? Why? Because that's just another loophole that allows copyright infringement.
Well, I think the reason Pay Per View sucks is because they're showing "later-than-blockbuster" releases at "higher-than-blockbuster" prices. Not very compelling!!
As far as adult content goes, I imagine that a bouncing naked breasts looked good back in 1991 just as they do in the newest 2003 release. Plus no one has to watch you be a perv and go into the back room, and then up front have the check-out lady say outloud that AssMaster 5 is due back Saturday.
As far as sports not being saved due to the lack of appeal of not being 'live'. Well, why would someone save the game to begin with? Probably because they couldn't be there to watch it. They go through work yelling at people to not say the score, and then they go home and watch it. So maybe this service should be pushed as a type of VCR service. Really, it shouldn't matter to the content provider "WHY" you watch something. The same thing happens... you have it stored... people watch it later. And others watch it even later. etc.
With storage getting so cheap today, I don't see storage as a factor. I've seen the story of a site that adds 30 TB a month to their archives. Wow.
As far as cartoons go... hmm. Well, why do the warez kids like to have all of the Simpsons on DIVX? Beats me, but they want to always be able to watch it. If these content providers could promise that all of the Simpsons would be available forever and ever at anyone's demand, then I dont' think anyone needs to horde binaries.
You wouldn't believe me if I told you the size of my mp3 collection, but if the music industry made their whole content available at pennies per play, interactive with my likes or dislikes, tagged to genres, similar artsits, full biographies, pictures, stories, links, and always available....then even I would have no reason to be a binary horder. And it took a lot for me to say that.
:) You can laugh. But tell it to Jon Johansen when they busted his door down.
How do you reconcile the fact that hardware/software vendors and consumer groups with an interest in innovating technologies are also large contributors to political campaigns?
That's easy. The contributions from the MPAA/RIAA are much bigger. Witness what has happened. Witness what is going on in the news now. Tell people how to disable the latest CD-Copying technique (Holding the shift key down) and you can get sued. You are right that everything I mentioned was based on the slippery slope argument, but look how much damage they've already done with their purchased DMCA legislation. Add the digital bit, and the combination opens even more doors. Not only that, but I think the digital bit is kind of worthless by itself. This only means that they're next step almost has ot be the complete proliferation of digital-bit hardware.
The first time the Clipper chip made its rounds, it got boo'd down. But now we're calling it Palladium. DRM. With hackers hitting the news more and more, and virus's getting even bigger, it's going to win the next time around.
The digital bit sounds innocent on paper, but this industry does not have our best interest in mind. It has their monopoly in mind. They will abuse the law. I have seen the Home Patriot Act get abused by redefining "drug dealer" to be equal to "terrorist".
To answer your first question... Hollywood loses next to zero to Indies and home copies. But that also means 0 income from them. Thus they don't care if their DRM lockdown affects them.
Your last paragraph sounds logical, spoken out loud right now. But at the time, they screamed bloody murder about the VCR. The deathknell of their industry. Now the rental movies & dvd industry is bigger than their theatrical market. Now they're screaming the same thing. This doesn't sound like someone that learned from their mistake. So yes, I think they are stupid.
If Jack Valenti went back in time to warn his previous self about not suing Betamax, and told him how great the VCR would be for their industry, the old Jack Valenti would have thrown him in jail and sued for copyright infringement for making a 'copy' of himself.
The only goal the RIAA and MPAA has is to control 100% of their market. They'd rather make 100% of 7 billions dollars than 50% of 40 billion.
Actually, I thought this whole movement was to go to a pay-per-play format. Instead of needing to record anything, you choose form a HUGE library of content (hopefully everything) and have it play.
Well maybe (maybe!) they won't make the old DVD players illegal. But I'd be more worried about it becoming obsolete.
After all, all they need to do is start making DVD's with a different CESS that won't work on the old players. They lie and say it's because it has nifty new "bit" features.
Anyway, what I really want to say was the old DVD player could be like the old 8-track tape player.
And what kind of education and job would you need to be able to spend your saturdays in a hammock in a yard & house that you bought?
The story works well because it described the hoops you have to live with to make it through college to get the job you desire.
I'm sure if on a different day someone told you that the Chinese shouldn't bitch about the propaganda the government puts on the radio, TV, and newspapers. Afterall, there are other alternatives, like farming some rice outside. Come on, use your imagination.
"But can you please explain to me what difference the broadcast flag will have on indie filmmakers?",
"....but there is no mandate for any producer to use the broadcast flag in material they create. If you don't turn it on in your recording, then nothing should stop you from making copies."
Sounds good for phase 1. Then what happens when someone starts to take out the 'bit', and re-transmit somehow, allowing everyone to watch and copy to their heart's content. I'll tell you what happens, they change the law so that EVERYTHING *MUST* have the bit. And all players must have the bit. And by then hopefully all computer hardware, bios, O/S, & software will have DRM also. And lo and behold it'll cost a minimum of $15,000 to get 'access' to licensing the 'bit'. That $15,000 will be what pushes out you, me & the indies.
What I just described is a very small jump compared to the other things they're trying to push for now. The bit is going to be bad. If we allow them to do this, they can then close the smaller holes without any problem.
Slashdot Mirror
Anyone ever spider alllmusic.com? Any interest in one?
And build your shelves out of those.
Yea, but after that point, it all went to hell.
Kazaa of course was just code-word for Newsgroups.
LOL. So explain why the RIAA is lobbying to get a cut of used Cd sales? (not to mention new contracts now get a percentage of tour sales also)
If you assume that the average person's expendable income for entertainment remains the same, then there is the #1 reason CD sales are slipping.
I've seen interviews were teenagers specifically state that they feel that a $15-$20 brand new DVD was worth more than a brand new CD for $18. However, I'm sure it has to do a lot with DVD's being "new". It's a chance for consumers to replace their VHS collection with better quality, much like people replaced their tape cassettes with their music CD purchases years and years ago.
I also haven't heard of the movie industry being sued for price fixing their DVD releases. However the recording industry has been busted twice.
Sounds like Kazaa. Except for all the downsides.
You didn't violate copyright, unless you distributed it. And the BSA will only crack on you if your business is making money off of the unpurchased software.
NO! I love that site! Please tell me you're joking about xxxhotfistyBabes.com closing!
Getting it is not illegal. Giving it is. NOw, with this new law, they've expanded the "giving" to be "allowed to be given". Or however you want to describe their wording of "being in the shared folder".
Don't be an idiot. Copyright infringement involves distributing copyrighted material. Not one RIAA lawsuit to date has been about someone just HAVING material they didn't pay for. There's a reason for that.
That's what I had hoped. :(
I'm owed 2,931
Sometimes slow music can be non-skippable. For instance the celtic theme that is in the Braveheart Soundtrack works wonders. However, I have found some very bad Celtic music out there that can curdle milk.
There are time when a certain mood can allow other types of genre (Blus). But that is few and far between.
I feel your pain. I suppose we could delete our mp3's....
This has seriously reduced the enjoyment of music. A person's A+ list becomes pretty small. Probably about the same size as one's vinyl collection as a kid. (YAMV - Your age may vary)
Isn't that the truth.
I know they backed down from Sunncomm's initial threat. That doesn't change the fact that they started a lawsuit with him.
I don't argue your stance against the boob tube. But the article's story was about reading books. And the restrictions ON those books. Due to the cost of paper, I don't find it inconcievable that it would be mandatory to read professor's books online in 40 years. It could be possible that by then the publishing markets all went to online content anyway as the only means of staying profitable. The industry could even get rid of the idea of printing books? Why? Because that's just another loophole that allows copyright infringement.
As far as adult content goes, I imagine that a bouncing naked breasts looked good back in 1991 just as they do in the newest 2003 release. Plus no one has to watch you be a perv and go into the back room, and then up front have the check-out lady say outloud that AssMaster 5 is due back Saturday.
As far as sports not being saved due to the lack of appeal of not being 'live'. Well, why would someone save the game to begin with? Probably because they couldn't be there to watch it. They go through work yelling at people to not say the score, and then they go home and watch it. So maybe this service should be pushed as a type of VCR service. Really, it shouldn't matter to the content provider "WHY" you watch something. The same thing happens... you have it stored... people watch it later. And others watch it even later. etc.
With storage getting so cheap today, I don't see storage as a factor. I've seen the story of a site that adds 30 TB a month to their archives. Wow.
As far as cartoons go... hmm. Well, why do the warez kids like to have all of the Simpsons on DIVX? Beats me, but they want to always be able to watch it. If these content providers could promise that all of the Simpsons would be available forever and ever at anyone's demand, then I dont' think anyone needs to horde binaries.
You wouldn't believe me if I told you the size of my mp3 collection, but if the music industry made their whole content available at pennies per play, interactive with my likes or dislikes, tagged to genres, similar artsits, full biographies, pictures, stories, links, and always available....then even I would have no reason to be a binary horder. And it took a lot for me to say that.
How do you reconcile the fact that hardware/software vendors and consumer groups with an interest in innovating technologies are also large contributors to political campaigns?
That's easy. The contributions from the MPAA/RIAA are much bigger. Witness what has happened. Witness what is going on in the news now. Tell people how to disable the latest CD-Copying technique (Holding the shift key down) and you can get sued. You are right that everything I mentioned was based on the slippery slope argument, but look how much damage they've already done with their purchased DMCA legislation. Add the digital bit, and the combination opens even more doors. Not only that, but I think the digital bit is kind of worthless by itself. This only means that they're next step almost has ot be the complete proliferation of digital-bit hardware.
The first time the Clipper chip made its rounds, it got boo'd down. But now we're calling it Palladium. DRM. With hackers hitting the news more and more, and virus's getting even bigger, it's going to win the next time around.
The digital bit sounds innocent on paper, but this industry does not have our best interest in mind. It has their monopoly in mind. They will abuse the law. I have seen the Home Patriot Act get abused by redefining "drug dealer" to be equal to "terrorist".
Sorry the lack of tying this together.
Your last paragraph sounds logical, spoken out loud right now. But at the time, they screamed bloody murder about the VCR. The deathknell of their industry. Now the rental movies & dvd industry is bigger than their theatrical market. Now they're screaming the same thing. This doesn't sound like someone that learned from their mistake. So yes, I think they are stupid.
If Jack Valenti went back in time to warn his previous self about not suing Betamax, and told him how great the VCR would be for their industry, the old Jack Valenti would have thrown him in jail and sued for copyright infringement for making a 'copy' of himself.
The only goal the RIAA and MPAA has is to control 100% of their market. They'd rather make 100% of 7 billions dollars than 50% of 40 billion.
Actually, I thought this whole movement was to go to a pay-per-play format. Instead of needing to record anything, you choose form a HUGE library of content (hopefully everything) and have it play.
LOL! This is the funniest post I've read all month. Thanks for showing me the way!
After all, all they need to do is start making DVD's with a different CESS that won't work on the old players. They lie and say it's because it has nifty new "bit" features.
Anyway, what I really want to say was the old DVD player could be like the old 8-track tape player.
The story works well because it described the hoops you have to live with to make it through college to get the job you desire.
I'm sure if on a different day someone told you that the Chinese shouldn't bitch about the propaganda the government puts on the radio, TV, and newspapers. Afterall, there are other alternatives, like farming some rice outside. Come on, use your imagination.
"....but there is no mandate for any producer to use the broadcast flag in material they create. If you don't turn it on in your recording, then nothing should stop you from making copies."
Sounds good for phase 1. Then what happens when someone starts to take out the 'bit', and re-transmit somehow, allowing everyone to watch and copy to their heart's content. I'll tell you what happens, they change the law so that EVERYTHING *MUST* have the bit. And all players must have the bit. And by then hopefully all computer hardware, bios, O/S, & software will have DRM also. And lo and behold it'll cost a minimum of $15,000 to get 'access' to licensing the 'bit'. That $15,000 will be what pushes out you, me & the indies.
What I just described is a very small jump compared to the other things they're trying to push for now. The bit is going to be bad. If we allow them to do this, they can then close the smaller holes without any problem.